Dave use to be good but he sucks now because he only cares about how good he looks on stage. They need Sammy back, he at least attempts to sing how it should sound. I think they rest of the band sounds fine regardless if Michael is with them or not, Wolfie is fine...
As great as they are,they just were not hitting on all cylinders on this tour.The arthritis is begining to effect evh's playing.He's not as clean and precise as he once was.Hopefully,by next tour he'll be better.
dave dave dave dave oh heck yeah wating for the new cd to come out.lets hope mikie comes back on bass.it will sound that much better then all 4 guys will be there again.wolfies ok but hes no mikie.
This is pure crap. People actually paid to see this? They billed it as 'Van Halen Reunion'. Without Michael Anthony? And just because Wolfgang was Eddie's kid? Talk about nepotism. I would have gone to a show but they would have had to pay ME.
@blasty5150 Wow. Control issues eh? Thank you for setting me straight. I knew it was wrong for me to have my own opinion. And to think, I would have never known I was a fuckface until you in all of your magnanimous grandeur pointed it out to me. No one has ever called me a fuckface before and I'm just so grateful that I was alive at this time in history for you to point it out to me. How can I ever thank you. And to all you other fuckfaces out there you listen to blasty5150. He's so hot.
im a huge VH van but i will say they have lost the magic that awe factor they were unbeatable in the rock world but i don't blame them their only human even though their music was from the gods
what a sad, pathetic remnant of what was, at one time, the biggest band in the world. DLR can no longer sing, is as flamingly gay as Liberace EVER was. And Wolfgang,respecting the effort given, just isn't ready or good enough yet to succeed in that role.
@MrLikmaballs Agreeon all counts. Dave moves like an old man. And rapping? Was that in the original? Michael Anthony is highly under rated. Poor Wolfy doesn't have the stage presence and can't stay in tune. It's like... He's the shitty guy in the band that got the gig because of his drug connections. Eddie is why I started guitar. He is tired too.
Chickenfoot sucks! They sound like nothing more than a glorified garage band. Everything with Hagar in it sounds the same. We'll see how great they are after they finish this tour to half empty arenas.
F the haters....this is by far one of the biggest reunions in rock history, but the younger people like their grunge and alternative rock and never appreciated the sweet ass music of classic VH. Yeah they are older now, but Ed sounded better than ever and Dave was even focusing more on his vocals and less with his martial arts show like he did in the 80s. Sammy robbed this band of some of its prime years...when HE made it a pop band.
Van Halen is way better with Dave. With the exception of the album 5150, the Sammy era just can't stand up to the classic VH. Mean Streets is my favorite song, the album guitar tone was simply amazing.
jxm1677, you can get the hell off youtube if you want to complain about Wolfgang on bass and Dave on vocals. it's classic. No one cares about bad vocals.
That song does have a sweet opening riff. I guess Sammy's out there now giving Satriani a bad name with his bubble gum rock. I'd much rather see Satriani pair up with Joe Lynn Turner or something.
Go fuck yourself bananasplit3075... (A.K.A.Wolfgang bag lapper) you may not care about bad vocals but that just makes you an idiot....and if you don't like it then YOU can get the hell off of youtube douche bag.
Diamond Dave was great back in the day but his voice is shot now...also Eddie's son on Bass is a joke...without Michael Anthony singing the high harmonies the vocals are horrid....At least Eddie still shreds.
Dave sounded pretty damn good this last tour, compared to the 80's. He's sober and actually singing the words, vice his martial arts show and macking on the girls.
I was at this show in Raleigh! Love the part at 2:50. Nice little rap..."Represent!" This is the greatest rock band of all time and Dave is the best front man EVER!
Wow... someone doesn't know much about Van Halen do they? First and foremost, the video you're watching is of a purely "Diamond Dave" Era concert. This music is hard rock all the way. The only time Van Halen got remotely CLOSE to pop was with Sammy Hagar, and even then did they still manage to pop out some hard rocking tunes. Backstreet Boys, NSNYC, Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus= Pop Bands. ACDC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top= Hard Ballsy Rock!
Every band is going to have those few songs that can appeal to everyone, not just the die-hard guitar gurus. Sure, you can consider them close to pop. But there is still the essence of hard rock with ed's guitar work. And Jump is the only song of those four with keyboards or synths.
no dude, i'm not saying it, specilaist on music say that, what you don't see is that van halen was a good pop, and now pop is shit, that is it, i'm not saying van halen is a pop band to offend, got it?? it's the style, but it's a pop banda with an awesom guitar player and awesome rest of banda to, which jonas brothers is not definitely, so van halen was pop, jonas brothers is crap, got that? and i'm sorry if you are a van halen fan, i also like them and didnt mean to offend!
Pop band? Well, I'll admit they had some pop-like tunes: Jamie's Cryin', Dance the Night Away, Pretty Woman, Jump and I'll Wait. Really, as far as bonafied pops songs, that's about it, with about two or three other songs up for debate. Have you ever listened to I'm the One, On Fire, Atomic Punk, You're No Good, Bottoms Up, Outta Love, Light Up the Sky, D.O.A., Fools, Romeo Delight, Take Your Whiskey Home, Dirty Movies, Sinner's Swing and others? Not pop, at all. You're a total dumb ass.
no, never listen to those... actually i like pantera and black label society and pink floyd, that must be why vh sounds pop to me, sorry for being a dumbass, take care
What dumb fuck would say Van Halen was a pop band ? maybe that garbage van hagar trash. roth era van halen was at times a METAL band end of story. well said by the way cheers !!
The guy was young and from Brazil. We did some corresponding and he admitted that he was just uninformed. He said he had never taken the time to listen to some of the Roth-era heavy songs. He based his comments on Jump and Hagar-era crap. Now he knows.
Oh ok .hey man thanks for taking the time to tell me that. i was on highway 1 of the SF coast this morning blaring Fair Warning holy shit that fucking album smokes. no one will ever top those 1st 6 albums..........NO ONE !!!
Im not pegging them hardly if anything when i call a band metal its a positive. for some reason pompous fans dont like being called metal. well a facts a fact from 1978-1981 NOBODY WAS AS HEAVY in mainstream Hard rock/metal during that era......NOBODY !!
This is awsome. Eddie is on the money. Dave in in the groove also. I mean,he got some rythm for a whiteboy.See them in St.Louis,we need a new Dave album now
whats up with this little white guitar...lame. I know its a cell phone, but I saw them in Chicago and sounded like a tin can. Bring back the old axes!
van halen is all time great...but...fuck you eddie for how did michael anthony and sammy. your egocentric attitude is a BIG turn off man. you are known in the present day for being the BIGGEST PRICK who happens to rip on guitar.
your only 18 ima give you a pass on account of you cant help but talk outta your ass....dont bother me! or i will open a can-o- you tube whoopass on your punkass.
to interpret "weak" as some type of reference to my cock A cock or any other type of cock is the closet thoughts of a true FAG...thats you...GO BACK TO THE PLANET URANUS!....your response was so stupid i almost passed on the response but you being a fag and all i thought id bitch slap you just a little bit but not too much...dont wanna have you stalking me with your FAG thoughts...your sentence should have read "wats your penis doing in my mouth"...because your a FAG take that BITCHBOY
You sir have some serious class.(sarcasm) I'll give you this the fact that you took the time to respond with such a lengthy comment is truly admirable, but this is driven into the ground with your vulgar, homophobic, and ignorant comments, which I think we can all agree makes you look like a bigot and has NOTHING to do with the ability Edward Van Halen has to play mean street. Honestly using six grade puns like URANUS that is pitiful and only furthers your image of being a naive little kid.
dude dont try your bullshit on me pal...if your just one of those people that dish it all out but cant take the repercussions of your stupid remarks or comments then your the one with the major issues.you brought the penis thing up not me i just showed you what i thought of your comment. now your trying some politically correct stance on the whole gay thing.just like anyone i leave gay people alone until they open their mouth.lol no pun intended. the fact is u are postin on me then i bitchslap.
Once again dumbass remarks like you reverting to thoughts of oral sex when you say the word mouth truly decrease your credibility by 100%. You obviously have some serious anger issues because your bad mouthing people right and left on this video. If you have any dignity left , which I'm pretty sure has long been discarded of, please leave this page and stop polluting the page which was meant for critique and sharing of stories.
lol@your fabricated proclamation of you actually being qualified to judge anyone let alone me richard cabeza...i dont have anger issues at all i do however have issues with pseudo guys like you...your responses are lame...kinda on the holier than thou side by which you fall butt naked short ever being. remember you idiot???...you started your shit with me so if you cant take it then sftu...my feelings about Van Halen supercede your dumbass and your "take the high road" comments are so girly.
Now we can add perverse comments to your growing list of childish and uneducated remarks. You are really way too into your little "I comment against what ever everyone else says!" You took the most pitiful crack at a critical comment I have ever seen. you stated,"WEAK!!!!" Honestly next time come up with something worth while to say or better yet post your own version of meanstreet so we can all see your skills that put you above Eddie Van Halen. Son, I'm done talking don't comment back.
i was at this concert- i got to meet my all time idol who influenced me to play guitar- eddie- and his son wolfie backstage
and he says that its great that young kids like me take interest in his music and that it is still played today- i also got an autograph and i got to play his franenstein guitar- with a really small amp and he said i was really good for the amount of time i have been playing.
I wasnt trying to imply anything about you...I was implying that with a guy like eddie it must have been somewhat of a big deal for eddie to let you breathe his air and be in his presence that ever so holy fuck
Roth could never sing. He was a great front man; full of energy, but never a good singer. The Van Halen brothers need physiological help.
paintermailman1988 7 months ago
That's pretty awesome!
Guppy915 11 months ago
the original bass player would be nice
BullgoesforGold355 1 year ago
ithink its time for dave to come outta the closet (lookin pretty gay dude)!!!
stevo427563 1 year ago
@stevo427563 well...it takes one to know one....
WomackPhotoKCMO 1 year ago
ROTH is ....on a roll y'all, he represents y'all, he's in the know y'all....love that rap !
FUCKING VH RULES !
blica1 1 year ago
Dave use to be good but he sucks now because he only cares about how good he looks on stage. They need Sammy back, he at least attempts to sing how it should sound. I think they rest of the band sounds fine regardless if Michael is with them or not, Wolfie is fine...
smokinjo65 1 year ago
As great as they are,they just were not hitting on all cylinders on this tour.The arthritis is begining to effect evh's playing.He's not as clean and precise as he once was.Hopefully,by next tour he'll be better.
helimech60 1 year ago
dave dave dave dave oh heck yeah wating for the new cd to come out.lets hope mikie comes back on bass.it will sound that much better then all 4 guys will be there again.wolfies ok but hes no mikie.
mrmetal99 1 year ago
This is pure crap. People actually paid to see this? They billed it as 'Van Halen Reunion'. Without Michael Anthony? And just because Wolfgang was Eddie's kid? Talk about nepotism. I would have gone to a show but they would have had to pay ME.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
@AceOfHeart2012 Your loss fuckface!!! These vids do no justice, and Wolfie is nasty. Get over it you old fucker!!!!
blasty5150 1 year ago
@blasty5150 Wow. Control issues eh? Thank you for setting me straight. I knew it was wrong for me to have my own opinion. And to think, I would have never known I was a fuckface until you in all of your magnanimous grandeur pointed it out to me. No one has ever called me a fuckface before and I'm just so grateful that I was alive at this time in history for you to point it out to me. How can I ever thank you. And to all you other fuckfaces out there you listen to blasty5150. He's so hot.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
im a huge VH van but i will say they have lost the magic that awe factor they were unbeatable in the rock world but i don't blame them their only human even though their music was from the gods
kenroy916 1 year ago
@kenroy916 Why did you see it live? DIdnt think so, if you did you would shut your ass......
blasty5150 1 year ago
It's good to see them play, but the magic is obviously gone.
scu2r 1 year ago
what a sad, pathetic remnant of what was, at one time, the biggest band in the world. DLR can no longer sing, is as flamingly gay as Liberace EVER was. And Wolfgang,respecting the effort given, just isn't ready or good enough yet to succeed in that role.
MrLikmaballs 1 year ago
@MrLikmaballs Agreeon all counts. Dave moves like an old man. And rapping? Was that in the original? Michael Anthony is highly under rated. Poor Wolfy doesn't have the stage presence and can't stay in tune. It's like... He's the shitty guy in the band that got the gig because of his drug connections. Eddie is why I started guitar. He is tired too.
tradnwal 1 year ago
three decades later and there still rocking that shit lol thats what im talking about!
john169ify 2 years ago 11
They slammed this crap in L.A. Great job boys!
3eyedho 2 years ago 5
DLR the best front man in the business!
jackerman2591 2 years ago 4
dave is the voice if van halen..the band is that much better now that daves back...
mrmetal99 2 years ago 11
David Lee Roth is so cool!
yfh10mg 2 years ago
Was Roth rapping during the breakdown? Damn I love his stage antics.
ceucare 2 years ago 3
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Are U all 4kin deaf or summit??? CAn nee bugga else hear how bad this is???
boxafrogz 2 years ago
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"CHICKENFOOT" kicks VH's ASS!!!
boxafrogz 2 years ago
Chickenfoot sucks! They sound like nothing more than a glorified garage band. Everything with Hagar in it sounds the same. We'll see how great they are after they finish this tour to half empty arenas.
20carrocks 2 years ago
no, they don't
mariorachid 2 years ago
F the haters....this is by far one of the biggest reunions in rock history, but the younger people like their grunge and alternative rock and never appreciated the sweet ass music of classic VH. Yeah they are older now, but Ed sounded better than ever and Dave was even focusing more on his vocals and less with his martial arts show like he did in the 80s. Sammy robbed this band of some of its prime years...when HE made it a pop band.
20carrocks 2 years ago 2
Hell yeah, 20carrocks. Thank you for putting a common sense twist on this. Oh the voice of reason has spoken.
eucutta1 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!!!
SO TRUE
lonestarN95 2 years ago
Van Halen is way better with Dave. With the exception of the album 5150, the Sammy era just can't stand up to the classic VH. Mean Streets is my favorite song, the album guitar tone was simply amazing.
tbbucsfanutube 2 years ago
jxm1677, you can get the hell off youtube if you want to complain about Wolfgang on bass and Dave on vocals. it's classic. No one cares about bad vocals.
BananaSplit3075 2 years ago
How can anyone complain about Dave being back? He completes the band! Sammy's good in his own act, but he made a pop band out of VH.
20carrocks 2 years ago
i no david is way more exciting than anyone else although top of the world was awesome.
BananaSplit3075 2 years ago
That song does have a sweet opening riff. I guess Sammy's out there now giving Satriani a bad name with his bubble gum rock. I'd much rather see Satriani pair up with Joe Lynn Turner or something.
20carrocks 2 years ago
Go fuck yourself bananasplit3075... (A.K.A.Wolfgang bag lapper) you may not care about bad vocals but that just makes you an idiot....and if you don't like it then YOU can get the hell off of youtube douche bag.
jxm1677 2 years ago
Diamond Dave was great back in the day but his voice is shot now...also Eddie's son on Bass is a joke...without Michael Anthony singing the high harmonies the vocals are horrid....At least Eddie still shreds.
jxm1677 2 years ago
i know eddies son cant play for crap
texasranga 2 years ago
Dave sounded pretty damn good this last tour, compared to the 80's. He's sober and actually singing the words, vice his martial arts show and macking on the girls.
20carrocks 2 years ago
roth cant sing worth shit anymore. he actually ruins the songs rather than them makes them sound good.
noles33 2 years ago
I was at this show in Raleigh! Love the part at 2:50. Nice little rap..."Represent!" This is the greatest rock band of all time and Dave is the best front man EVER!
truedude30 3 years ago
it's a pop band
mariorachid 2 years ago
Wow... someone doesn't know much about Van Halen do they? First and foremost, the video you're watching is of a purely "Diamond Dave" Era concert. This music is hard rock all the way. The only time Van Halen got remotely CLOSE to pop was with Sammy Hagar, and even then did they still manage to pop out some hard rocking tunes. Backstreet Boys, NSNYC, Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus= Pop Bands. ACDC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top= Hard Ballsy Rock!
satchvanjohnson41 2 years ago 2
So Little Guitars, Jamie's Cryin', Dance the Night Away and Jump were nowhere near pop?
SpiritKnob 2 years ago
Every band is going to have those few songs that can appeal to everyone, not just the die-hard guitar gurus. Sure, you can consider them close to pop. But there is still the essence of hard rock with ed's guitar work. And Jump is the only song of those four with keyboards or synths.
satchvanjohnson41 2 years ago
iauhaiuhaiuah liked that one
mariorachid 2 years ago
What? compare this with Jonas brothers, then you'll hear pop.
Ignore14 2 years ago
no dude, i'm not saying it, specilaist on music say that, what you don't see is that van halen was a good pop, and now pop is shit, that is it, i'm not saying van halen is a pop band to offend, got it?? it's the style, but it's a pop banda with an awesom guitar player and awesome rest of banda to, which jonas brothers is not definitely, so van halen was pop, jonas brothers is crap, got that? and i'm sorry if you are a van halen fan, i also like them and didnt mean to offend!
take care!
mariorachid 2 years ago
Pop band? Well, I'll admit they had some pop-like tunes: Jamie's Cryin', Dance the Night Away, Pretty Woman, Jump and I'll Wait. Really, as far as bonafied pops songs, that's about it, with about two or three other songs up for debate. Have you ever listened to I'm the One, On Fire, Atomic Punk, You're No Good, Bottoms Up, Outta Love, Light Up the Sky, D.O.A., Fools, Romeo Delight, Take Your Whiskey Home, Dirty Movies, Sinner's Swing and others? Not pop, at all. You're a total dumb ass.
eucutta1 2 years ago 4
no, never listen to those... actually i like pantera and black label society and pink floyd, that must be why vh sounds pop to me, sorry for being a dumbass, take care
mariorachid 2 years ago
What dumb fuck would say Van Halen was a pop band ? maybe that garbage van hagar trash. roth era van halen was at times a METAL band end of story. well said by the way cheers !!
bosoxyaz8 2 years ago
The guy was young and from Brazil. We did some corresponding and he admitted that he was just uninformed. He said he had never taken the time to listen to some of the Roth-era heavy songs. He based his comments on Jump and Hagar-era crap. Now he knows.
eucutta1 2 years ago
Oh ok .hey man thanks for taking the time to tell me that. i was on highway 1 of the SF coast this morning blaring Fair Warning holy shit that fucking album smokes. no one will ever top those 1st 6 albums..........NO ONE !!!
bosoxyaz8 2 years ago 3
What about Diver Down? The whole point of that album was that they were tired of being pegged a "heavy" band and wanted to be more creative.
It's the same BS people throw at Zeppelin.
DarthKazi 2 years ago
Im not pegging them hardly if anything when i call a band metal its a positive. for some reason pompous fans dont like being called metal. well a facts a fact from 1978-1981 NOBODY WAS AS HEAVY in mainstream Hard rock/metal during that era......NOBODY !!
bosoxyaz8 2 years ago
haha, u comment on all VH vids dont u lol
rckid0814 2 years ago
it sure seems so huh lol !!!
bosoxyaz8 2 years ago
by the way, sorry bout my english, i'm brazilian xD
mariorachid 2 years ago
This is awsome. Eddie is on the money. Dave in in the groove also. I mean,he got some rythm for a whiteboy.See them in St.Louis,we need a new Dave album now
noeboy80 3 years ago 2
I was at that concert.
1pdc1 3 years ago
whats up with this little white guitar...lame. I know its a cell phone, but I saw them in Chicago and sounded like a tin can. Bring back the old axes!
socialjay 3 years ago
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van halen is all time great...but...fuck you eddie for how did michael anthony and sammy. your egocentric attitude is a BIG turn off man. you are known in the present day for being the BIGGEST PRICK who happens to rip on guitar.
vigildon 3 years ago
Pretty sure that you have that category pretty much locked down.
LethalAftermath 3 years ago
your only 18 ima give you a pass on account of you cant help but talk outta your ass....dont bother me! or i will open a can-o- you tube whoopass on your punkass.
vigildon 3 years ago
hmm... i might respond if i could understand what you were saying
LethalAftermath 3 years ago
WEAK!
vigildon 3 years ago
alright i gotcha nevermind i was just being dumb..... i just disagree with you on the big prick comment
LethalAftermath 3 years ago
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wat your penis?
foxheadspeed 3 years ago
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to interpret "weak" as some type of reference to my cock A cock or any other type of cock is the closet thoughts of a true FAG...thats you...GO BACK TO THE PLANET URANUS!....your response was so stupid i almost passed on the response but you being a fag and all i thought id bitch slap you just a little bit but not too much...dont wanna have you stalking me with your FAG thoughts...your sentence should have read "wats your penis doing in my mouth"...because your a FAG take that BITCHBOY
vigildon 3 years ago
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You sir have some serious class.(sarcasm) I'll give you this the fact that you took the time to respond with such a lengthy comment is truly admirable, but this is driven into the ground with your vulgar, homophobic, and ignorant comments, which I think we can all agree makes you look like a bigot and has NOTHING to do with the ability Edward Van Halen has to play mean street. Honestly using six grade puns like URANUS that is pitiful and only furthers your image of being a naive little kid.
foxheadspeed 3 years ago
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dude dont try your bullshit on me pal...if your just one of those people that dish it all out but cant take the repercussions of your stupid remarks or comments then your the one with the major issues.you brought the penis thing up not me i just showed you what i thought of your comment. now your trying some politically correct stance on the whole gay thing.just like anyone i leave gay people alone until they open their mouth.lol no pun intended. the fact is u are postin on me then i bitchslap.
vigildon 3 years ago
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Once again dumbass remarks like you reverting to thoughts of oral sex when you say the word mouth truly decrease your credibility by 100%. You obviously have some serious anger issues because your bad mouthing people right and left on this video. If you have any dignity left , which I'm pretty sure has long been discarded of, please leave this page and stop polluting the page which was meant for critique and sharing of stories.
foxheadspeed 3 years ago
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lol@your fabricated proclamation of you actually being qualified to judge anyone let alone me richard cabeza...i dont have anger issues at all i do however have issues with pseudo guys like you...your responses are lame...kinda on the holier than thou side by which you fall butt naked short ever being. remember you idiot???...you started your shit with me so if you cant take it then sftu...my feelings about Van Halen supercede your dumbass and your "take the high road" comments are so girly.
vigildon 3 years ago
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Now we can add perverse comments to your growing list of childish and uneducated remarks. You are really way too into your little "I comment against what ever everyone else says!" You took the most pitiful crack at a critical comment I have ever seen. you stated,"WEAK!!!!" Honestly next time come up with something worth while to say or better yet post your own version of meanstreet so we can all see your skills that put you above Eddie Van Halen. Son, I'm done talking don't comment back.
foxheadspeed 3 years ago
i was at this concert- i got to meet my all time idol who influenced me to play guitar- eddie- and his son wolfie backstage
and he says that its great that young kids like me take interest in his music and that it is still played today- i also got an autograph and i got to play his franenstein guitar- with a really small amp and he said i was really good for the amount of time i have been playing.
subzero5620 3 years ago
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did he say you can suck his cock too
vigildon 3 years ago
come on man dont be like that
subzero5620 3 years ago
I wasnt trying to imply anything about you...I was implying that with a guy like eddie it must have been somewhat of a big deal for eddie to let you breathe his air and be in his presence that ever so holy fuck
vigildon 3 years ago
I would have never guessed that u sucked cock so good Vigil Wigel. But then I didn't think you would take it up the ass like that either dude.
marked95128 3 years ago 3
Yea i was there too. Eddie was on!!!!!
TheHeavyHeavyBlue 3 years ago
dude, I was at the concert. I had a 13th row floor seat. This concert really kicked ass!!!!
hotelmo92 3 years ago
I HAD 7th ROW!!!!
Gibsonguitars123 3 years ago
I think that the laser lights are really cool.
but what if the people in the nosebleed seats get eye damage?
Gibsonguitars123 3 years ago
The lasers shown up into the ceiling before the nosebleed seats. Just after where the scoreboard would have been.
SkylineBNR34 3 years ago
eddie = god
incubus866 3 years ago 2
lol dave is into gansta rap now? eds shredding ass
ilikeparty 3 years ago
IM NOT WORTHY!!! IM NOT WORTHY!!!
Gibsonguitars123 3 years ago
2:30 to 2:35 is pretty fast
zackvanhalen 3 years ago