You didn't mention another recent nerf that the blutsauger now takes -2+/sec off the wearer... so carrying the blutsauger makes you heal slower than if you carried the needle gun. This is why I assumed they changed the heal rate, to "balance" the blutz with the needle gun. Before everyone rolled blutz because it was clearly the better choice, but now they both have unique pros/cons.
indeed they do, but in a combat situation the blutsauger is still better. It's reasonable to assume you'll be taking enough damage frequently enough (keep in mind, this is if you're in a "jam") to keep your regen rate at its lowest. With needlegun, your max will be 3HP a second. With blutsauger, it'll be 1HP a second in addition to each needle that hits, which will each give you +3HP. If you get just 1 hit out of the 10 per second, you'll have +4HP per second; better than needle.
btw, because of the update, if you have the syringe gun, your healing rate will be the same as explained here, but if you have the blutsauger it will be the lower regen rate as explained before because the blutsauger gives you more survivability.
i find blutsauger way more effective than the regular syringe gun.
most of the time, im focused on keeping others alive, if i need health then i just attack!
the blutsauger is one of the easiest weapons in the game to aim. it arcs, has a huge clip, shoots fast, and because of the medics speed it is easy to run circles around a lot of the classes like a scout or a pyro would do. i have not equipped the normal syringe gun since i got blutsauger.
Hey if you're healing at the 6hp/sec and you get injured again does it reset the counter back to zero with 3hp again? Or does it continue at the previous 6hp rate?
@Locker344 bullshit, you were being a dumbass whos obviously never graphed, becaus eif he put 4.5 you would have said z0MG u r teh r0ng it r 4 lolo0l0l,l1lol1l12l.
It was measured by 5 seconds, and at 5 seconds he recorded it, so fuck you
@jessaraptor no i was jokin and im not a fuckin 4chan faggot. i am takin statistics now so i definately kno how to graph. it was a joke. ur takin it way to serious
@Locker344 Not really. you accused him of having a misleading graph, which was not "just joking" i called you on your bullshit and you are trying to pin it on me, GTFO you whore
@jessaraptor no im not tryin to pin it on anyone. i did say it but sarcasm doesnt translate when ur typin stuff. ur just tryin to pick a fight. i was fuckin jokin so get the fuck over it. i dont see the reason people try to start shit on youtube. it is for fun and for the last time i was jokin so if u fuckin respond one more time i will report u for harrasment
@Locker344 I'm not trying to "start shit on youtube" but you called out the maker of this video saying that his graph was misleading, when it clearly wasn't. There was no sarcasm in your comment, and you are trying to get out of the argument because you know you are wrong, and are trying to put the blame on me. I think that is very childish and you can just ignore my comments if you don't want me to respond, you can't just "report me for harassment" as you so claim.
@jessaraptor wow ur really tryin to fight. ur just being rediculous. u cant tell me what i inteneded my comment to sound like. IT WAS SARCASM!!!! get over it. i was not tryin to be a jerk and call him out or anything on the graph. i am not that much of a jerk. however u trying to tell me what I meant is just rediculous. it was sarcasm so get the fuck over it
I said there wasn't any, because that is my opinion. Don't tell me what my opinions are, and i won't get over it, and I'm not trying to start a fight. I never tried to tell you what you meant, only my interpretation of what you said. If you think that is wrong, then you are obviously a Pro-Censorship Fascist . Your comment did not seem to be sarcastic, but rather laced with venom, and I suggest you to try to convey your messages more accurately next time you choose to comment.
@jessaraptor "i never tried to tell u what you meant" and later "your comment did not seem to be sarcastic, but rather laced with venom." that voids ur first statement because that is indeed telling me what i meant. u should really listen as u type cause ur just making urself sound stupid
Please don't try to put words in my mouth, I said that it SEEMED to be sarcastic, which would be my opinion. Please try to analyze what I say before you try to bash it, as you will fail.
@jessaraptor just fuck off cause u obviously have no life and delight in arguing with me. go outside and play a sport instead of arguing with someone over something stupid like this. im done
you know, if you're going to use music in a video, you should always tell somewhere on the video, whether it be the description or the actual video, what the fucking song is :(
this is the reason i dont use blutsauger anymore. in most dangerous situations a medic would be better off falling bk to recover his hp and use the needlegun to ward off enemies. blutsauger is only beneficial when in combat with an enemy which ironically medics should always avoid.
If you aren't a battle medic, you should use the syringe gun to have more time healing your patients. If you are a battle medic or your team sucks, both guns are viable options.
The Syringe Gun facilitates staying with your teammates even when injured, allowing them continuing support despite your injury as it will likely not last long, with good dodging.
The blutsauger, however, offers more survivability if left alone with no one to heal, which can happen on an inadvisable push.
Maybe this is why they changed the regen rate? Now the blutsauger is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
I still use it from time to time, it's particularly useful when enemies are singling you out, helps escapes and keeps you alive while running away from pyros.
The disadvantage is occasionally having to go find a health pack instead of just waiting for the regen after getting hit, leaving your friends alone without healing temporarily.
@ichairmanmao Not saying its a bad thing just that Health regain is enough and now there ramping it uhp. Could be a sign of maybe a new WAR where everyone gets signatures super wepons or new wepons in general who know we can only hope
There are only 2 classes without "Meet The" videos: Medic, and Pyro. If medic gets more survivability, then someone gets more killability. It could be a pyro.
But then, both pyro and medic got their updates and unlockables. Soldiers and demomen have no unlockables yet, so, it could be them aswell, and they're actually the ones capable of most burst damage.
We can only guess. Me, I think whatever Valve does will keep the game fun in a few more ways.
I don't think this changes things as much as some people imply. The things that kill medic are burst damage - lots of damage at once. The extra 2 hp per second doesn't change things dramatically if it's rockets or a scattergun that's cutting a medic down.
It does let medics bounce back faster when retreating, though.
also keeps you alive for longer if on fire, those few seconds could save your live when looking for health. time and time again i have died millimetres away from health
I personally fear medics from time to time, some of them won't tolerate you killing their healing target, such as myself. I've had a couple times where I've pushed a team back after they killed my heavy, by needling and ubersawing a few of them and literally running in for the kill. Though, yes, i know that's not how medic should be played. Most people don't know just how dangerous a medic can be, certainly if he can aim.
One of the Medic's main priorities is survival, therefore, they can heal the team.
WingZero1828 1 year ago
lol its not 4hp/sec at 5sec :O its 5hp/sec :OO
Rasenganprod 1 year ago
Imo, the regen rate should be higher.
JamesJimRaynor 1 year ago
You didn't mention another recent nerf that the blutsauger now takes -2+/sec off the wearer... so carrying the blutsauger makes you heal slower than if you carried the needle gun. This is why I assumed they changed the heal rate, to "balance" the blutz with the needle gun. Before everyone rolled blutz because it was clearly the better choice, but now they both have unique pros/cons.
aarontheboy 1 year ago
@aarontheboy
indeed they do, but in a combat situation the blutsauger is still better. It's reasonable to assume you'll be taking enough damage frequently enough (keep in mind, this is if you're in a "jam") to keep your regen rate at its lowest. With needlegun, your max will be 3HP a second. With blutsauger, it'll be 1HP a second in addition to each needle that hits, which will each give you +3HP. If you get just 1 hit out of the 10 per second, you'll have +4HP per second; better than needle.
FoxPMcCloud 1 year ago
This vid really helped me!
Now I can calmly call medics n00bZ!
owner876 1 year ago
RAGE IN THE YOUTUBE CAGE!!!
MrGoodDInner 1 year ago
new and improved medic now witch key chain and faster auto heal
UziGameLover 1 year ago
For anyone who is stupid like jessaraptor i was not tryin to be a jerk or anything. it was sarcasm.
Locker344 1 year ago
btw, because of the update, if you have the syringe gun, your healing rate will be the same as explained here, but if you have the blutsauger it will be the lower regen rate as explained before because the blutsauger gives you more survivability.
xpericfilms 1 year ago
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Blutsauger is Blood sucker or Vampire in German
cloud314231 1 year ago
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Blutsauger is Blood sucker or Vampire in German
cloud314231 1 year ago
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Blutsauger is Blood sucker or Vampire in German
cloud314231 1 year ago
OMG! When watching the old regen rate clip, you see the name "RaptorJesus". I play with that guy all the time!
failurebob 1 year ago
i find blutsauger way more effective than the regular syringe gun.
most of the time, im focused on keeping others alive, if i need health then i just attack!
the blutsauger is one of the easiest weapons in the game to aim. it arcs, has a huge clip, shoots fast, and because of the medics speed it is easy to run circles around a lot of the classes like a scout or a pyro would do. i have not equipped the normal syringe gun since i got blutsauger.
someguyhunter 1 year ago
Bluthsuger?
FuckinKillBeastyboys 1 year ago
Gives -2 to heal rate. So it is 1 to start, 2 after 5 and 4 after 10.
G00ser25 1 year ago
then do you use the blutsauger or the other one?
TonePottery 1 year ago 2
Hey if you're healing at the 6hp/sec and you get injured again does it reset the counter back to zero with 3hp again? Or does it continue at the previous 6hp rate?
I guess I never noticed while playing.
undrtakr900 1 year ago
@undrtakr900 it resets
tf2tactics 1 year ago
Okay thanks, and I love the tf2tactics video series =)
undrtakr900 1 year ago
wow with 4 hp regen it is not on the 4 line. u have a misleading graph
Locker344 1 year ago 10
@Locker344 just pretend that its a bad dream, thats how i get by... lol
christianmalazarte 1 year ago 20
ok denial is sometimes the best tactic lol.
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344 thats because its 4.5 fucking retard DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor why the fuck u gota be such a douche about it. i was jokin
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344 bullshit, you were being a dumbass whos obviously never graphed, becaus eif he put 4.5 you would have said z0MG u r teh r0ng it r 4 lolo0l0l,l1lol1l12l.
It was measured by 5 seconds, and at 5 seconds he recorded it, so fuck you
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor no i was jokin and im not a fuckin 4chan faggot. i am takin statistics now so i definately kno how to graph. it was a joke. ur takin it way to serious
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344 Not really. you accused him of having a misleading graph, which was not "just joking" i called you on your bullshit and you are trying to pin it on me, GTFO you whore
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor no im not tryin to pin it on anyone. i did say it but sarcasm doesnt translate when ur typin stuff. ur just tryin to pick a fight. i was fuckin jokin so get the fuck over it. i dont see the reason people try to start shit on youtube. it is for fun and for the last time i was jokin so if u fuckin respond one more time i will report u for harrasment
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344 I'm not trying to "start shit on youtube" but you called out the maker of this video saying that his graph was misleading, when it clearly wasn't. There was no sarcasm in your comment, and you are trying to get out of the argument because you know you are wrong, and are trying to put the blame on me. I think that is very childish and you can just ignore my comments if you don't want me to respond, you can't just "report me for harassment" as you so claim.
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor wow ur really tryin to fight. ur just being rediculous. u cant tell me what i inteneded my comment to sound like. IT WAS SARCASM!!!! get over it. i was not tryin to be a jerk and call him out or anything on the graph. i am not that much of a jerk. however u trying to tell me what I meant is just rediculous. it was sarcasm so get the fuck over it
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344
I said there wasn't any, because that is my opinion. Don't tell me what my opinions are, and i won't get over it, and I'm not trying to start a fight. I never tried to tell you what you meant, only my interpretation of what you said. If you think that is wrong, then you are obviously a Pro-Censorship Fascist . Your comment did not seem to be sarcastic, but rather laced with venom, and I suggest you to try to convey your messages more accurately next time you choose to comment.
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor "i never tried to tell u what you meant" and later "your comment did not seem to be sarcastic, but rather laced with venom." that voids ur first statement because that is indeed telling me what i meant. u should really listen as u type cause ur just making urself sound stupid
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344
Please don't try to put words in my mouth, I said that it SEEMED to be sarcastic, which would be my opinion. Please try to analyze what I say before you try to bash it, as you will fail.
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@jessaraptor just fuck off cause u obviously have no life and delight in arguing with me. go outside and play a sport instead of arguing with someone over something stupid like this. im done
Locker344 1 year ago
@jessaraptor also im going to waste no more time arguing with idiotic people. i have better things to do with my time
Locker344 1 year ago
@Locker344
Thanks for giving up and letting me win, though that's how it would have gone anyways.
jessaraptor 1 year ago
@Locker344 Maybe it was because it wasn't exactly four, and he rounded it.
whonow09 1 year ago
1:05 raptorjesus is me :D
xXsomthingXx 1 year ago
i hear there going to make a 10th class; it might be suckier than the medic lol......
masterpickle13 1 year ago
you know, if you're going to use music in a video, you should always tell somewhere on the video, whether it be the description or the actual video, what the fucking song is :(
AshForte 1 year ago
this is the reason i dont use blutsauger anymore. in most dangerous situations a medic would be better off falling bk to recover his hp and use the needlegun to ward off enemies. blutsauger is only beneficial when in combat with an enemy which ironically medics should always avoid.
SpadaBelformaOficial 1 year ago
If you aren't a battle medic, you should use the syringe gun to have more time healing your patients. If you are a battle medic or your team sucks, both guns are viable options.
CopyrightPropaganda 1 year ago
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graphs are wrong, it shouldn't climb up linearly like that. just sayin
busyplayingwow 2 years ago
Add a Blutsauger in there.
NintendoGamesPro 2 years ago
As for the question at the end of the video:
The Syringe Gun facilitates staying with your teammates even when injured, allowing them continuing support despite your injury as it will likely not last long, with good dodging.
The blutsauger, however, offers more survivability if left alone with no one to heal, which can happen on an inadvisable push.
Maybe this is why they changed the regen rate? Now the blutsauger is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
ChalktheChase 2 years ago 4
so the blutsauger regan rate is maximum 3? if it is then why am i using the blutsauger?
violotberry 2 years ago
I still use it from time to time, it's particularly useful when enemies are singling you out, helps escapes and keeps you alive while running away from pyros.
The disadvantage is occasionally having to go find a health pack instead of just waiting for the regen after getting hit, leaving your friends alone without healing temporarily.
ChalktheChase 2 years ago
@violotberry Because you can drain HP insane fast if you have good aim
narutoxninja37 2 years ago
lol when you played as red your whole team were like "MEEEEDIIIIC!!!", "DONT BOTHER ME IM DOING TESTS..."
marianoxlomas 2 years ago 7
Just as a note, with the regular syringe gun, the rate is boosted to 4-6.
TomSpeed97 2 years ago
Sorry I just noticed you said this in the comments, stupid me.
TomSpeed97 2 years ago
You forgot to note that you need to have the syringe gun equipped for the new system to work.
F47Games 2 years ago 5
The regen rate pretty much doubled.
*sigh*
Another reason why medics are the first targets.
ClaytonStaples 2 years ago 4
how is this a bad thing? medics have always been and always will be first targets
ichairmanmao 2 years ago 11
@ichairmanmao Not saying its a bad thing just that Health regain is enough and now there ramping it uhp. Could be a sign of maybe a new WAR where everyone gets signatures super wepons or new wepons in general who know we can only hope
Linkophere 1 year ago
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ClaytonStaples 2 years ago
Engineer is also a slightly team orientated class
Guthixruler 2 years ago
A wild guess here:
There are only 2 classes without "Meet The" videos: Medic, and Pyro. If medic gets more survivability, then someone gets more killability. It could be a pyro.
But then, both pyro and medic got their updates and unlockables. Soldiers and demomen have no unlockables yet, so, it could be them aswell, and they're actually the ones capable of most burst damage.
We can only guess. Me, I think whatever Valve does will keep the game fun in a few more ways.
Niohimself 2 years ago
I don't think this changes things as much as some people imply. The things that kill medic are burst damage - lots of damage at once. The extra 2 hp per second doesn't change things dramatically if it's rockets or a scattergun that's cutting a medic down.
It does let medics bounce back faster when retreating, though.
Hyudra44 2 years ago 4
also keeps you alive for longer if on fire, those few seconds could save your live when looking for health. time and time again i have died millimetres away from health
DavidPlim 2 years ago 3
I really like your videos. Keep up the good work!
And what's the name of the song?
pedroeljuego 2 years ago
Behind every powerful team. is a dedicated medic.
krilc 2 years ago 25
"I don't think anyone fears a medic" Well you are right but they do fear chain uber medics >:D
andyroo89 2 years ago 3
I personally fear medics from time to time, some of them won't tolerate you killing their healing target, such as myself. I've had a couple times where I've pushed a team back after they killed my heavy, by needling and ubersawing a few of them and literally running in for the kill. Though, yes, i know that's not how medic should be played. Most people don't know just how dangerous a medic can be, certainly if he can aim.
linkzero2 2 years ago 7
Agreed.
andyroo89 2 years ago
The medic put the TEAM in team fortress 2 ;D
styler56 2 years ago 5
ever got the ubersaw up your ass?
Clearstarsummer 2 years ago
Yeah because it doesn't I guess. Blut just lowers it so there's no reason to put anything in the SG's description.
Shame everyone doesn't read the patch notes I guess...
neop346 2 years ago
This is the second of your videos I've watched, and I've noticed that both contain:
Professional quality editing
Professional quality notation
Generally good music.
Good job!
ScienceFiction216 2 years ago 2
And I thought the medic was as powerful as it was lol wow, this should make for far better survivability if a medic boosted grouped attack fails.
should also make the normal needle gun a bit more interesting.
ima5150 2 years ago
Oh god thanks for explaining that.
I am glad that the medic will get more survivability.
I am also glad that this does not overpower or underpower the blut.
TigerSlashX 2 years ago
It makes the blut slightly better
CommentBot2000 2 years ago
thanks :) im working on so many videos right now, i need to re prioritize :(
got my new cpu working now tho!
christianmalazarte 2 years ago
Keep going with your amazing videos! Very nice! :)
hl2mukkel 2 years ago
wow...a huge medic buff...nice:)
DirtySammy007 2 years ago
awesome thanks for posting this. patch notes had me pretty confused initially
ubiquitousmotion 2 years ago
as a medic can use either SG or Blut, not neither, people are understanding the changes ok.
If medic had 3 primary weapons it would be a different matter.
petercrab4 2 years ago
Awesome as aways!
JeronimoGregolini 2 years ago
Thanks
Starch77 2 years ago
I once again felt inspired to play medic after watching this video :) Top of the scoreboard.
Also, you have exquisite taste in the music you choose for your videos. What's this one?
timbosquad 2 years ago
thanks :)
music is DJ Shadow - You Made It (Instrumental)
christianmalazarte 2 years ago
when did they implement the change?
NinjaClyde 2 years ago
just yesterday
christianmalazarte 2 years ago
All your videos are so precise!
Love em all
Pencils82 2 years ago
time to play medic!
kazujin107 2 years ago
hehe thank you :)
honestly i just recorded 4 videos 2 for the before and 2 for after. just luck that it actually connected at 80HP lol :)
christianmalazarte 2 years ago
1 Q: How many games did you have to record to take the exact same damage each time! You had 80 HP both times.
That's real dedication!
Planetary0 2 years ago
Dude, you're amazing!
socialjunsu 2 years ago
wow you got this video out fast, that kind of speed is very much appreciated thx ^__^ and keep it up
coveringfire08 2 years ago