4 Best Equestrian Art School of Europe 251107

[sychristinechow]

None of the horses are abused. I spent two weeks at the Royal Andalusian school of Equestrian Jerez doing the technical course. They are very well treated. People were kind and professional. Please do not make comments on things you do not understand Horsiebeauty

[CanteringLullaby]

I would love to work with one of these horses! They are so majestic yet powerful! ♥

[JogiBaboo95]

LOL at 6:33, perfect Sync :)

[katnjas]

@isaidmootwo No actually, the praise is done after their move is done. as they have 1 shot hten go back to wait till its their turn again. its to show affection to the horse and for the horse its saying "Well done that was good"

[simpsondesign]

The art of dressage is an art form that requires communication and commitment on the part of the horse as well as the rider. No horse is going to perform in the relaxed manner that you see on this video if they are being abused. Horses understand the touch of the whip telling them to activate certain parts of their body because my arm is just not that long for me to touch their hind leg or quarters to ask them to bring it more under their body to lighten the forehand.

[Viiveca95]

dont like that stuff like 1:26...poor horses =(

[Viiveca95]

dont like...poor horses =(

[Marixxen2]

i reallt like this stuff! BUT i dont like theway the horses seems scared, afraid, nervous etc... i don't like the way they tie them up either...

[RileyandSummer1]

@Marixxen2  I agree!!!

[DJBelbe]

@Marixxen2 don't agree with draw reins either but none of those horses is scared. Such movements get the horse pretty excited, it's hard enough to get them as quiet and disciplinated as you see! Remmember these are all stallions. I for have have a stallion who gets all pumped up just by doing the spanish walk! If I asked him a capriole he'd explode jumping around like a gazelle, LOL!

[leeshdiddy22]

I'm lucky enough to work with a Lipizzaner stallion, and I can honestly say that I see him doing ALL of these movements, just in his paddock. Truly amazing animals.

Also - to all you people who think they don't praise their animals - you can clearly see the handlers pat them.

[qaouali09]

Je n'aime PAS ce que font les espagnols .

Soumettre et répèter, répèter.

Aucun plaisir pour les chevaux. Le piaffer dure un temps fou, le gros type n'est pas lui même en cadence !!!

Les chevaux peuvent aimer faire du "dressage", pas là !

I say what I think, sorry for that !

Thanks for posting anuway, very instructive video. :-)

[Lille54321]

i don'T think that this horse does ist on his own - look at his (stallion's) ears (5:36 you can see it pretty good) and he knows that the man with the whip is behind him, so he can't do somthing else.

so i don't think that the horse is doing it on his own.

and naturaly not at all

[gollum935]

i don't think this is beautiful at all - i have never seen a horse piaffe for minutes at a time on his own in a field like horse at 5.18 so i don't understand why people can call this natural. only natural thing a human can do with a horse is eat it.

[lassiesuca]

hmm, I really enjoy classical riding and training of the horse, but I do agree to an extent the fact that it isn't natural- but then what is for a horse today? I would love to train my horses classically when I'm older but keep them as natural as possible. I do think this is much better than the keeping of Grand Prix dressage horses and showjumpers, but that is my take on it.

[DJBelbe]

@lassiesuca what's not natural? I've seen the stallions at my yard perform every single one of those movements wile play/fighting each other or when showing off to mares. My own stallion is particularly keen on the piaffe when I tell him he can't chase the mares that cross us on trails and an older stallion is fond of the courbette and capriole when playing tag with me.

[markc1234golf]

@ mel0808johnson :the movement where the horse jumps up and kicks at the back is called a capriole. ;o)

[wrekincollegeL6]

yes it's beautiful, but it can't be any good for their hocks bet they have loads of problem when they are older

[xHelenPx]

all movement performed at the SRS are based on natural movements of the horse. They are not damaging or distressing.

[creamcheeseismythang]

its all natural. they are just trained to do what they do naturally on command.

[RoanArt]

No, they don't. The horses at the SRS are not trained in the airs until they are 12-14 years of age. The time before that is spent building strength and muscle. They often perform well into their 20s.

[DJBelbe]

@wrekincollegeL6 most of these horses retire at age 30 in good health. Classical dressage is just a pretty name for a saddle horse oriented gymnastic program.

[SickHorsies]

Positively adorable! It may not be good showmanship in those shows but I'd be patting my horse every five seconds for being so adorable and willing! ^_^ At least when I wasn't concentrating.

[mel0808johnson]

what is the move called when the horse jumps up then kicks out his rear legs?

[NicolleMacdonald]

that is ashamee the horse iis not enjoying it at all

[fire44raven]

i definitely like it with the horse's tail down better than braided up. braided up makes the horse look really fat when they are actually extremely well fit!

[dizzybrowngirl]

partly the breed

[DJBelbe]

@fire44raven hahaha! used to hate it too till I tried working on long reins with a long fluffy tailed horse (Lusitano stallions usually have lots of tail and mane). The darned reins kept getting tangled on the tail! LOL! only then did I realize the purpose of the ridiculous braid

[flolamiss31]

d'accord, c'st hyper dur à obtenir, c'est de la heute école, du dressage de haut niveau, mais... ce n'est pas naturel, et entre un cheval qui se cabre sous l'ordre de son dresseur et un cheval qui galope librement, le choix est vite fait

[DJBelbe]

@flolamiss31 I would rather a horse that does the piaffe and courbette in freedom! That's why I like stallions so much, they love to show off and perform all these spectacular movements to show just how powerful and agile they are.

[horseisbeauty]

Yes these horses are horribly abused. With their constant attention, planned nutrition, lights and music, cleaned stalls and fitted tack to a T. They are doted on by riders, trainers and managers like adored athletes (that they are.) If you want to talk abuse, let's talk about amish horses. Until then, let's can the dressage is cruel crap. k?

[PIRISHKA69]

Rubish talk!! Conversa fiada!!

[horseisbeauty]

Yes, you are talking rubbish (not rubish) My sarcasm clearly sailed right over your head.

[katnjas]

@horseisbeauty Well said. Very well said

[DJBelbe]

@horseisbeauty yup, horses on at least 2 of these schools work soundly untill they are 30! If that's not a good health program i dunno what is.

I confess some of them look a tad annoyed at times and a couple appear too submissive for my taste, but none looks fearful of abused.

I've personally seen the Lusitanos being trained at the shade of trees back home and all you could hear were the birds and the hooves. Both horse and handler were as peaceful and quiet as you'll ever see.

[speedinjen]

Very cool. These horses are very pretty, but you can tell the good trainer by the horse. It looks like most of them are stressed (about the whip, correction on the reins etc.), you could see that when the horse was attached to a 'cross tie' and the guy went behind him so the horse would react but couldnt go anywhere but up. Dont get me wrong, the prancing and everything is very pretty but some of them (not all) looked very irritated.

[Sisty41]

rains are way too tight, they almost bite their chest, i just dont like these deep, tight heads, is totally unnatural for a horse, if you want to see beautiful horses with free spirits watch cavalia !!!!

[crazycow2000]

i didnt like cavalia so much :P

[TwistedTemptress]

there is nothing unnatural about a collected frame. and as for tight reins, most riders who ride in ANY frame still maintain contact with the horses mouth. this is all these reins are, they are not forcing the horses into a false frame, since that hinders rather than helps this movements.

[Sisty41]

Sorry, but i see that differently ; you ride a horse from the back to the front and let it place its head, you do that with a proper and subtle seat, not with forcing a horse with some side reins into position, that has absolutely nothing to do with a collected frame!!! I ride my horse in a natural collected frame with the head on the vertical not below it, how do i achieve this??? With a good seat and soft hands if u would look closely u would see the the neck is not the highest point HERE!!!

[TwistedTemptress]

while I agree with riding the horse from the quarters, and that the head should be carried naturally, I didnt say anything in fact that would contradict that. I was merely stating that these reins were tight enuff to maintain contact. also, still in agreeance with you, in this video there is no seat and no legs being used to maintain frame, its all in the horses self carriage with the side reins being used as reminders.

[Sisty41]

Side reins are never just reminders, they dont give in, and leave the horse no choice of how to carry the head, the horses head is always forced in a certain position, and im not saying this to annoy you, i have the best example for that at home, my horse sunny was trained like that and now he's got arthritis in his neck, you'll understand that im a little concerned about side reins and all these other 'nice' things that are used on horses, since i pay the price for others messing my horse up!!

[SupernaturallyMine]

I completely agree with you and am very sorry about your horse, but there a are proper and improper ways to use side reigns. At our ranch, we leave them looser when we first start training but with just a little contact so the horse learns to stretch to the bit. After awhile, the horse is ready to go into a higher frame and we tighten them just a little but the horse can still move their head if they feel uncomfortable. Thats what I'm used to :)

[AnamCaraDressage]

Thanks for sharing this video!!!

And by the way you can go to the Wienna Riding School and to Saumur as a girl! :)

[estellechingyi]

yw :)

[xardnaselax]

It's such a pity only one of these schools have ever accepted a girl into their training. D:

[ropefast]

Where is Wienna? LOL is that a new town in Austria?

[TheBiologicShow]

Does anyone know how someone would go about becomming a Lipizzaner rider at the Spanish Riding School?

[redtrinitygirl]

A horses ears will be back when it is trying it's hardist look at race horses flying down the track. it's does not always mean they are unhappy. just working and trying their best.

[sophsratties]

those are some of the most highly trained horses in the world!! :O

No way are they treated badly!! Only very-well cared for and loved horses could do that!! - But... how do you knowif they enjoy it? I'm not saying that they don't, and I think these sort of acts a outstanding... but you never see the ears go forward?!?!?! (a sign of happiness in horses)

[sophsratties]

... still, I know I could never do that!! lol!! It's amazing, also, how there never seems to be signals... and when u think you see one... itss always the same!! XD

I bet the horses enjoy though, or they wouldn't do it... after all, they are lippzanners (the one breed that'll strut it's stuff!!) lmao!!

(that's just to clear up any confusion with wot I said!!)

[estellechingyi]

Agrees : )

It's hard to be angry at an animal that can perform like this.

I was so moved at the moment when I see them perform. I simply admire and adore them.

[CBearns]

Don't worry - horses like this are EXTREMELY valuable. I'm sure they're treated very well - probably even better than their human counterparts. ;)

[estellechingyi]

*smile*

[theicedingo]

I see several handlers praise after performance. Trained animals know when they have done good without any touch. I know this because my own doesnt need it, all he needs to hear is 'good boy' or the exact tone. Notice here you can't see the handlers hands anyway (they could be praising, we don't know) so we can't judge such highly experienced people with our stupid computer know-it-alls. Watch and Enjoy, I know I am. This is as close as many of us (including me) will get, lol. Thanks for adding!

[estellechingyi]

True, there is also the tone and oral "good boy" that we can't hear watching from the stadium. And human performers do not praise each other during their show but look at each other and smile. I'm sure horses and their trainers can communicate this joyful feelings when the moment is there.

But you can't deny that many horses are mistreated in training and people who are concerned are not "stupid computer know it alls".

[theicedingo]

I can assure you most of the ones that are posting on youtube are not only concerned but are trying to impress others by pretending they know what they are saying, when in fact they hardly know 30% of the real deal and many minors take their advice (thinking it right) over experienced handlers, whose tactics may sound or look cruel but are infact far from it. It was those people who I was attacking, not the genuine concerned, who actually ask for a reason and not just critise.

[estellechingyi]

Thank you for the commonds. Yes I agree.

[HiiAmHeidi]

There are principles of physics and geometry that apply to every aspect of these horses' training and movements. Google "classical dressage." Levers, momentum, circles, force, mass, time...I wish I had the kinesthetic knowledge to make it all come together in 3D, real time.

[HiiAmHeidi]

This is the creme de la creme of classical dressage. I would do less whining and more note-taking. Sorry, doesn't get much better than this. This is the working execution of the thousands of words in dressage books!

[willtemple1]

if you dont know anything about these horses please do not say that these people are cruel!!i am lucky enough to have ridden some of these horses and i know how well cared for they are!they get alot of praise in training and if the horse didnt enjoy it then they wouldnt perform!

[estellechingyi]

it's wonderful to hear you respond to this willtemple1.

We are all horse lovers and have never assume people are all cruel.

[estellechingyi]

I agree. I don't understand why the trainners never praise their horses and show their love in performance. I also don't understand why they put the horse between the poles. I only hope these horses are kindly and well treated in training.

These horses show so much discipline and submission to their human trainers, they deserve to be well respect and loved.

[larkolena]

the way i see it, so long as they are NOT mistreated, the horse doesn't have to absolutely love what it is doing. they get the best living quarters, grooming, health care, and feed. these things are QUITE EXPENSIVE. they might work two hours a day. i must say there are many humans that would like a job like that! i am sure they are loved as well.

[DJBelbe]

@larkolena These horses seem to like or at least be OK with what they are doing. None looks hopeless or fearful. But if they didn't like the work who cares about how well groomed and housed they are? horses preffer rain and dirty coats to being locked all day. They don't know what euros or dollars are. What matters is that these horses are trained properly and have an interesning "job". else all the money in the world wouldn't matter.

[IberiqueBaroque]

i have always been fassinated by the way thes trainers never ever prais ther horses in performance, never. nor do they present vanity in themselves, it must be the concentration i suppose???

[Janeandleika]

Th@t l@st bit was soooo cruel when he put the horse between the poles! Wh@t the hell w@s it 4!2 sc@re it maybe???????

[Horselips13]

You are obviously ignorant in classical dressage.

Not cruel. Piaffing and the levade between the

pillars is just one of the many things these stallions are taught. They are very carefully trained and with rewards. If you are cruel to a horse like this it will not do what you ask. It will shake, wring it's tail and sweat (lather) profusely. It will freak-out and "blow-up" in the ring. These stallions like to prance and strut their stuff.

[SCMSL]

This is one of those moments i coulnd't be more proud to be portuguese! Great horses, great show. I'd love to be there next year!

[Rodeo4Christ]

Absolutely beautiful