Yang Tai Chi - Short Form

[FinalEclipse06]

Not to be mean, but for most of the form it seems like it's just a straight imitation of her dad's form, like she doesn't feel it herself. On the rooting debate I noticed in some of the other comments, I've read it's important to be rooted, but not double rooted. At the same time though, you have to be able to move lightly and agilely (qing and ling, I believe?) during combat.

[bowser8375]

@FinalEclipse06 Well she was trained by her father so of course she is going to repeat alot of the movements, this is clearly her interpretation of the form though, since it is not exactly patterned after her father's form. Everything about this form is great. It will only get better and change over time. That is the essence of good Tai Chi by the way.

[bvolsky]

T'ai Chi is only supposed to be slow and methodical if you're beginning. After 10 years or so you can be fast. Why not raise the speed of the entire set? Also, this does not seem to be the short form, but part I of the three part long form.

[aeortiz2004]

Just a simple question..Do any of you have study with Dr. Yang Jwing Ming....don't you see some similarities between her performance and Yang's...well, take a second look!

[FireFox1914]

I don't see what the big problem is. She has excellent rooting, great positioning, fine posture. Yeah, her Fajin is definitely VERY showy and therefore I'm willing to be it's probably fairly ineffective. She's thinking about power now, but that will change as she advances. I give her credit though; that is a very low stance, much lower than I was taught and it takes a lot skill to keep such good posture in such a low stance. Overall, I applaud it.

[StillnessMoving]

God I love online quibbling that leads nowhere.

[brandonyang108]

I love it

[muldak1]

excelente...no hay más que decir

[BigBrother619]

GOD bless!!! This is great!!! Thank you.  It is so graceful...

[clairvoyager]

Outstanding!! You won't see many people doing a form so well *and* keeping the stances so low.

[sickofdao]

hmm... my master and other masters have said that it is bad taiji to let your knees overextend the length of your feet. which she nearly does this entire video.

[tomrovak]

She nearly extends, but doesn't. Her form is excellent and true to the combat application of the form. Is your master teaching Taiji for health or for combat? Sometimes there is a difference in this regard.

Respectfully

Tom Rovak

[sickofdao]

nay i think theres some serious problems for combat application.

[BaguazhangMaster]

This is true combat aspect Taijichuan... It would be considered the Fajin when she moves with her hips and strikes... This may be a slight bit showy but there is certainly nothing wrong with it.

[sickofdao]

'certainly nothing wrong with it'

overstatement.

[whynotmoo]

Post a video of yourself doing better then...

[sickofdao]

as if i could expect a fair judgment from you.

[whynotmoo]

Oh please great master...I could never judge you...obviously you have more skill than this kind lady since you are able to correct her, so you must have more than I

[sickofdao]

eh.

[Bowser666]

Tai Chi is a hard style to understand applications on. Especially if you are beginner. For your information, She is the daughter of Dr Jwing-Ming Yang. They study traditional ( Military) yang tai chi. Most dont know it but the Yang family actually trained military personnel in the mid to late 1800's.

[sickofdao]

@Bowser666

dont think so. taiji is really easy to understand. very natural i think.

[Bowser666]

Lol. You must not practice Tai Chi then lol. The traditional Yang Family form contains over 400 applications. If you want to understand it, then practice it. I have been practicing it for 2 years and I am learning all the time still.

[sickofdao]

@Bowser666

i do practice taiji. im just being contrary really. heh heh.

however. i do think there are some serious problems with yang taiji. mainly the 'strong rooted' emphasis. i think that it hinders mobility too much.

[Bowser666]

Not sure what you mean by hinders mobility ? I do not find any difficulty moving in this manner. More training needed perhaps ? How long have you been studying Tai Chi ?

[sickofdao]

@Bowser666

eight years probably.

stance too low. i mean its great to be well rooted where people can't knock you down. but it leaves your legs really open for sweeps and kicks. with so much weight pushed into the legs it takes more time to evade.

[sickofdao]

@Bowser666

hmm... dont misunderstand me though. i think shes superbly skilled. in fact. i cannot at the moment remember a better performance.

[whitecranestyle]

To Aetherus7 the snapping is called fa jin and is in Yang Style Taiji but is not seen to often every since the health aspect of Yang style has become really popular over the last fifty years or so. No Chinese style is without Fa Jin including Taiji which was originally created for self defense. Also Master Yang Jwing Ming does not teach wushu only traditional Chinese martial arts.

[Aetherus7]

Thanx, I practice many of the martial Yang and Lao Yang systems as taught by Prof Huo Chi Kwang and Master Lu Hung Bin, just never saw that snapping Fa outside of Chen style in a Tai Chi form. I am familliar with Yang Jwing Ming and he is very respected, I suppose it is his own flavor, again, very nice.

[deancuebas]

This video shows what tai chi really is. Yes, most people practice totally soft tai chi for relaxation etc. But even Yang ( Yang, Lu chan, the originator of Yang style) tai chi is a MARTIAL ART. So, what you see here is the way people needed to practice to develop the martial skill for the original YLC style. It wasn't until YLC grandson, Yang, Chen-fu took out all the fast stuff out to present tai chi as an general exercise for the royalty and the general population, that Tai chi became soft.

[Aetherus7]

Thats nice and all, but I practice the Yang system in a lineage of Yang Shou Hou. Of course it is martial and Lao Yang is far more martial than the later Yang Chen fu system. My point is that this Fa jing is not part of the original Yang Tai Chi FORMS I've ever seen. Yang styles have their own way to do this. You do not understand the complete system it seems or the reason for the slow movement in the FORM. All Tai Chi systems have fast sets and applications. I still appreciate what YJM created.

[hvillarruel]

Tai Chi Chuan with northern flavor...i really like it.

Some old Yang Tai Chi had fajing, I think Yang Cheng Fu throw it away for health porpoises.

[Aetherus7]

It's nice and graceful, but since when does yang style "snap?" This is more of a wushu style for performance, but its nicely done. Thanx.

[onemindonespirit]

It is Yangs combination of White Crane and Taiji, in this case.

[Aetherus7]

Thanx, After watching, I saw it is Yang Jwing Mings (Daughter?) And suspected the White Crane aspect was inserted, I like it anyway.

[Bowser666]

Its not a combination of both styles , it is clearly Yang style. However Kathy Yang does also study Longfist and White Crane so you are going to see a influence. Doesn't mean they are combining both styles though LOL.

[onemindonespirit]

@Bowser666 You see the same thing with people who have done something like Hung Gar their whole life and then start learning Xing Yi or, well, anything else. It looks like a Hung Gar version of Xing Yi. Of course they have all the movements in all the right order. Is that all there is to Taiji? I think not.

[ToddtheGod]

Yea...inspirational!

[shastafari2001]

yes,that's perfection

[Feixue07]

Wow :-)