@nekto555 The author is not misleading anyone. They clearly state that it's an expanded A1200 and not the base configuration. The A1200 motherboard and components do not magically cease to exist if someone adds an accelerator board & graphics card.
Great video. I bought the commercial edition of Amiga Quake in the late 90s, but didn't have funds to upgrade at the time. I only got to run the Amiga edition a few years ago via WinUAE. Good conversion, but the opensource versions are much better.
@nekto555 What is a standard configuration? An Amiga without using its expansion slot? Without being assembled into a tower? Only the ignorant can be missleaded by this video. Sorry but it seems you no nothing about Amiga computers apart from A1200 being an Amiga computer.
@nekto555 You are wrong. It's still an Amiga as the motherboard is the orginal one. So the heart of the machine is still pure Amiga. Today's PCs are all "Frankensteins". There's nothing left from the orginal IBM designed hardware in these days. Hehe. :)
Now THAT'S FAAAST! I am getting Mediator for my A4000T which already has CSPPC 233Mhz. Going to add Voodoo 5 on it. It's gonna be very interesting to see how Quake and the others will run on it then. :)
@nekto555 I agree, this hardware wasn't the inspiration behind those fantastic demos of the 80's and 90's. Sometimes working with minimal resources is what makes people more creative.
@Renesance86 This doesn't prove fuck all, because quake is A) a game from the PC, and B) older than unreal. And it looks shit compared to unreal, too.
@ironchef3500 like a pc, what is running this game is the voodoo 3.
you see people running amiga hardware with radeon 9xxx cards (intoduced in 2002) and add on cpu cards.
making ridiculous claims on the original hardware's capablities.
really you could do this with any hardware.
spectrum, c64 etc, have at times had major hardware modifications avaiable to them allowing them to largely by-passing the original hardware and offer features impossible otherwise.
How so ??? Sounds to me like nekto555 is absolutely spot on with his comment, your A1200 is MASSIVELY modded and presenting it as a 'stock' A1200 is mis-representing the situation.
Would be nice if you elaborated on your opinion rather than just typing the equivalent of a grunt.
@carvedeye No dood thats like saying if i have a VW beetle and i swap the chassis and engine for a mclaren F1 then it is still an Amiga. Now there is room for debate but essentially what you have is no longer the original product. If you mod something enough surely there is a point where it stops being what it originally was. That was my only point that to then post vids hailing its capabilities is misrepresentation .... cool ...but misrepresentation.
At what point have you failed to read the title or description properly? It clearly says BPPC in the title. Anyone with an Amiga interest knows that this is not stock. If you then read the description you will see that EVERY mod is set out for you... jeez
@ddniUK If you want to split hairs about it IMHO your title should say something like 'Quake on my MODIFIED Amiga 1200 BPPC' because you know as well as i do most people have no idea what the BPPC means. Why should they it relates to obsolete dead technology most have never used or needed to understand. As i've said several times what you've done is very cool, but the title is misleading. Since then i've been battling the clueless fanboys, replying to dumb attacks on my argument.
@ddniUK No m8 i enjoy toying with people who don't bother to think before they post. Am still waiting for someone to post a coherent rebuttal of mine and nekto555's initial argument ........... still waiting ........ guess this could take some time.
ROFLMFAO ..... dood that is THE worst analogy EVER !!!!
The PC is defined by the fact its a collection of various components from different manufacturers.
PC isn't really a computer its set of standards for 'COMPUTING', meet all the standards you have a working computer.
Now if i took a computer similar in nature to an Amiga. Say a Dec Alpha ( you google that ), then yeah if i expand it enough in certain areas at some point it does stop being a Dec Alpha or an Amiga for that matter.
Ok does it run windows NO, does it run linux NO does it run workbench/Amiga OS 3.5 or 3.9 YES IT FUCKING DOES does it run amiga games from the floppy drive with real amiga disks YES it does, the reason it can run the quake games is becuase they are now open source if i was to run quake on my mac would that make my mac a pc ? No it would not .
@Blowfeld20k The first thing I did back in 1992 when I got my 486/25sx was to upgrade the memory, install a CD-Rom drive. Was it still the same pc I bought? Sure was but it was better. Look at how people mod thier cars and trucks. Upgraded something doesn't mean it isn't what you had originally and if you a pc and don't upgrade what's wrong with you? So what if it is an upgraded Amiga, it is still an Amiga.
@zenmonk9003 Obviously your yet another nostalgia stoned fan boy, who fails to comprehend what an 'IBM compatible PC' actually is. Look through my other msgs as i have already previously demolished the upgraded PC = Amiga argument. Next time try to read the whole thread before casting your barely thought out pearls of wisdom. :)
@Blowfeld20k Number 1) I don't drink or smoke dope so nix that one. Number 2) You are seriously an angry indvidual. Number 3) I never said nor do I think an upgraded PC = an Amiga however if you are running the Amiga OS on a PC then yes it basically is as it is the operating system not the machine. All PC are basically the same no matter who makes them or what OS they run. You can build a pc from different parts but do you use linux, Windows, or different OS?
@zenmonk9003 Bro, seriously. No offence but is English a 2nd language or are you incredibly stupid?? 'Nostalgia stone' is not a reference to drugs in any way at all, i'd have though any moderately intelligent mammal could work that out. Ask someone who finished high school to explain the phrase to you. Angry not at all, am surprised you ( though thinking back to the nostalgia issue maybe am not ) assumed that.
You still do not comprehend what an IBM compatible is though, you should look it up.
I have Quake running on my 17 year old A4000 with a Warp Engine '040/40 and 48 Mb of RAM. What's cool is it runs off the HD without needing the CD in the Drive. I bought mine from Clickboom, but couldn't get N2 Euroburn.
looks epic... id love to get another amiga 1200 new then mod the hell out of it and make some tuneage! ...only trouble is finding the parts these days, like a sampler box and various other ram cards, cd input and all that is a bastard :( no way id find it all
@ddniUK I meant by ''lame download'' that you have downloaded the game (Either free or you have paid for it) digitaly. So is that Quake a Physicial Copie installed on the Amiga or a downloaded one?
What is the point in putting the amiga into this kind of brag-off. Why not let amiga be an amiga, what is the point in testing an amiga up against modern hardware. Let the amiga be an amiga. Whats next, will you compare the amiga with a nvidia gtx 280? I had an amiga and i loved it, let the amiga be an amiga, dont put it up against modern computers. Its really lame.
That coment shows that you don't know what amigas are like today. AmigaOS 4.1 exists and it runs on new hardware to begin with. The hardware isn't anything revolutionary like it was in 1985 but it exists and it's weird to make that statement that you did. You can think of Commodore Amigas as the only ones that ever existed and an era of its own which is ok and I get your point but the Amiga was and is an computer and could and can be upgraded. What they did on stock hw was amazing.
@ddniUK Oh, don't get me wrong, your Amiga videos (and your system) are impressive - they marry my favourite computer with my favourite FPS games.
People once thought that Doom was out of the Amiga's reach, and here they're proved wrong, then along comes the Quakes - it would be awesome if Doom 3 could be done though, wouldn't it? :)
do the graphics of the game run through the amiga graphics card or does the amica pc run the graphics through it's software and then present it through the graphics card like a television?
@richardmaudsley77 IBM PC= just that a IBM PC. Just a PC=Personal computer. This can be a Mac a Amiga or a Windows based PC. Its ok I know its hard to understand and you resort to name calling.
@danyearight It's so hard to understand, that you don't understand it! when people say PC, they mean IBM PC. when I buy a peice of software that says PC on it, it doesn't work on a mac or amiga.
Commodore was still around with their Amiga's when Quake came out!? I didn't know that. I see you've got Wipeout running on an Amiga too! How is that even possible? or is it just a PC with an Amiga OS?
@rka18282 it probably isnt a fake. Theres no way a stock A1200 could run a fps smoothly in fullscreen but unlike the ps1, Amigas are computers not consoles and can be upgraded
if only commodore supported better the original Amiga in his last days,we would have an amigaos that could wipe out any windows or linux any day..still hoping for that
It is a timedemo. That means it runs through a set number of frames as quickly as it can. Therefore you will see the game run far faster than when in normal play... You should see it on my newly upgraded 330mhz BPPC !!!!!!
It looks like quake runs cool, but you cannot really say that much of the original Amiga is in use can you? I had a Falcon 30 which I could run the graphics to support SVGA in full color, and ran it at 32mhz over the original 16mhz, but all I did was add new crystals to support overclocking. The hardware was still the same though. If I remember corectly the A1200 only had a 68020E processor and suported a few Megs of Ram. Nice Job though.
I love Amiga but even so this performance is easily achievable on a windows 486 using similar specs, i recon you could get Q1 on a pc as low as 30mhz with 128 ram, technically as long as you have relatively lots of ram the game doesn't really go hard on the processor. So im sure that this video is 100% real
dont see point of the current holders of amiga releaseing new operating systems when the hardware thats required to run it makes it more expensive than to buy an ordinary windows pc!
Hey, Im on your side! I was replying to vlgtube who is defending his Atari as if it was 1989 ;) In fact, Im trying to get Quake to run as fast on my machine (240mhz) as it does on yours. Seems the Mediator makes all the difference.
what kind of ethernet card you have in there ? if it's slow, you may be getting mashed because of lag. I don't think playing on a quad core wouldn't make a difference your system runs pretty fast enough.
That's not cheating, just like upgrading your video card to run Crysis well is not "cheating". That's just upgrading a computer, something that on classic Amigas could be done but nobody did because no commercial games supported upgrades.
DevilMaster: It wasn't the software developers. It was the users. People were not ready for this kind of technology so they killed it. Amiga was way ahead of its time.
In 1985 it sure was. And the only reason people "were not ready" for upgrades is that... no game supported them. And who wrote the games? Certainly not users.
Its not about upgrades. There was no cheap Amiga where you could add easily GFX CARD, so wheres the point? Developers? I dont think so, developers for Amiga do really good job. Users? Well, i dont think so. So wheres the point?
Amiga developers didn't exactly do "good jobs". Look at the Amiga version of MK2: it was a total disaster! Not only it was made to run on 7-year-old hardware, it wasn't even the best that could be done on it. It didn't even use EHB, nor did it use the original sound effects of the arcade and PC version. And what's most pathetic... the PC version used IFF sound effects. The Amiga version could've used them without any problem, but it did not. Why? Because the developers did a terrible job!
Because it was time of crisis. And after crisis it was time of progress and PC won.
I know the same story from Atari side. Amiga company fail and no single game could change this nor any of us. Thts sad but Amiga still has quite good support.
Mind that Apple got problems too bu survive even without strong in entertainment.
So the fact is that Amiga World was stupid and loose their chance, insted fight to Atari which was weaker should concentrate their power to constructive and creative work. It wont happen because they got problems with new technologies as well as the selling 1200 Amiga for low price even it was overpriced compare to Atari. Well, i dont know situation but i think Commodore was stupid. Atari too.
Really, i can't believe, is there some video of Q3 for beloved AMIGAS puter, or if not, please, can you or someone make it, would be really interesting, QUAKE III for AMIGA !
I remember playing civilization 1 on my brothers amiga1200 units moved in slow motion and every time i pressed next turn it took like five minutes to load it didnt stop me from playing tho
ok someone help me get this straight, i remember the amiga having like 1 MB ram and so on,but how the hell do you people get like 175mhz - 233mhz on an AMIGA?!? And what was the purpose of these "overpowered" amigas?
And now try to run RAGE on your Amiga, please.^^
ToughGuyver 1 week ago
@ToughGuyver
LOL If you head back to 1996 and write RAGE, then I will run it on this Amiga ;)
ddniUK 1 week ago
@ddniUK
I am no programer,but maybe someday John Carmack will write a 16 bit version of Rage for us.^^
ToughGuyver 1 week ago
i love amiga!!!
SmashingMercury 1 month ago
New official AmigaOS website launched - go to amigaos.net - Spread the word :)
djrikki2008 2 months ago
spectacular FPS... both the game and the framerate!
SuperShadow 3 months ago
I have it too same config bat 040 25MHz.
VincentGreece 4 months ago
Amiga Hardware Next Generation! AMIGA OS4.1 NEW Official Link Amiga amigaos.net :)
CelentAle 4 months ago
AMIIGAA!
VerdantSpecies 4 months ago
I kinda doubted the Amiga could do that... But then I wondered if this guy is a pro gamer or something because of how fast he was playing.
bobateff1 4 months ago
@bobateff1
I take it you haven't played Quake... he was not "playing" - that was the game demo running, and it was accelerated, compared to the PC version...
magnetiteK 1 month ago
Can you run Quake 2 or 3 on this setup?
jci10 5 months ago
@jci10
Yes, I have a video of Quake 2 running on this machine on Youtube
ddniUK 5 months ago
@jci10
It is the video response to this one.
ddniUK 5 months ago
@ddniUK Me stupid. But awesome!! Quake 2!!
jci10 5 months ago
@nekto555 The author is not misleading anyone. They clearly state that it's an expanded A1200 and not the base configuration. The A1200 motherboard and components do not magically cease to exist if someone adds an accelerator board & graphics card.
Great video. I bought the commercial edition of Amiga Quake in the late 90s, but didn't have funds to upgrade at the time. I only got to run the Amiga edition a few years ago via WinUAE. Good conversion, but the opensource versions are much better.
MrKnightbeat 5 months ago
@nekto555 What is a standard configuration? An Amiga without using its expansion slot? Without being assembled into a tower? Only the ignorant can be missleaded by this video. Sorry but it seems you no nothing about Amiga computers apart from A1200 being an Amiga computer.
EFileTahi 6 months ago
does it run Crysis?
cxk271 6 months ago
@cxk271 When in Full ID Crisis probably...
jbingfaII 6 months ago
wow.. quake was a slideshow for me on my 040/40
jacksawild 6 months ago
That's one juiced up Amiga!
Erdie5 7 months ago
@nekto555 You are wrong. It's still an Amiga as the motherboard is the orginal one. So the heart of the machine is still pure Amiga. Today's PCs are all "Frankensteins". There's nothing left from the orginal IBM designed hardware in these days. Hehe. :)
KarpowSCX 7 months ago
Now THAT'S FAAAST! I am getting Mediator for my A4000T which already has CSPPC 233Mhz. Going to add Voodoo 5 on it. It's gonna be very interesting to see how Quake and the others will run on it then. :)
KarpowSCX 7 months ago
@Blowfeld20k I think this is a case of if it's possible then do it just for fun
I think the additional stuff like the PowerPC chip would sit in the trap door where the RAM expansion would go and the graphics is either part
The Blizards even carry their own memory so what you essentially have here is a computer in a computer.
Cool but not exactly a new lease of life for the Amiga, that day has been and gone
Also, the Amiga would have been rehoused into a PC case
judgewest2000 7 months ago
@nekto555 I agree, this hardware wasn't the inspiration behind those fantastic demos of the 80's and 90's. Sometimes working with minimal resources is what makes people more creative.
judgewest2000 7 months ago
Wow, looks like Unreal (PC) from 1998. It's proofs Amiga was far better than Personal Crap.
Renesance86 7 months ago
@Renesance86 This doesn't prove fuck all, because quake is A) a game from the PC, and B) older than unreal. And it looks shit compared to unreal, too.
doritostheking 7 months ago
@nekto555 its a valid point, its so modified as not to be a amiga 1200.
the amiga 1200 came out in 92 the voodoo 3 was release in 99, 3 years after amiga's death and the a1200 was discontinued.
its an wonderful example of modding hardware beyond its original manufacturers spesifications and capablities.
but i see too many amiga fanboys perverting these wonderful modern hardware mods as amiga's superiority over every thing else.
the voodoo 3 and blizzard is doing the work, not really the a1200.
cant1rac 7 months ago
@ddniUK have u ever tried using a video capture card
just asking
killkenny5000 8 months ago
why are we surprised quake runs on a voodoo 3? Am I missing something impressive?....
ironchef3500 8 months ago
@ironchef3500 like a pc, what is running this game is the voodoo 3.
you see people running amiga hardware with radeon 9xxx cards (intoduced in 2002) and add on cpu cards.
making ridiculous claims on the original hardware's capablities.
really you could do this with any hardware.
spectrum, c64 etc, have at times had major hardware modifications avaiable to them allowing them to largely by-passing the original hardware and offer features impossible otherwise.
modding hardware is great fun though
cant1rac 7 months ago
640x480, so. It too fast sonny, can't tell if ur coming or going, slowww down!
Now lets see you do it at 800x600.
tmbg1985 9 months ago
@nekto555
You're wrong.
ddniUK 9 months ago
@ddniUK
How so ??? Sounds to me like nekto555 is absolutely spot on with his comment, your A1200 is MASSIVELY modded and presenting it as a 'stock' A1200 is mis-representing the situation.
Would be nice if you elaborated on your opinion rather than just typing the equivalent of a grunt.
If he is wrong the debunk his statement.
Blowfeld20k 7 months ago
@Blowfeld20k
Ofcourse its an amiga its just heavily expanded why dont you google it or even better ...join an amiga forum and ask there :)
carvedeye 6 months ago
@carvedeye No dood thats like saying if i have a VW beetle and i swap the chassis and engine for a mclaren F1 then it is still an Amiga. Now there is room for debate but essentially what you have is no longer the original product. If you mod something enough surely there is a point where it stops being what it originally was. That was my only point that to then post vids hailing its capabilities is misrepresentation .... cool ...but misrepresentation.
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k
At what point have you failed to read the title or description properly? It clearly says BPPC in the title. Anyone with an Amiga interest knows that this is not stock. If you then read the description you will see that EVERY mod is set out for you... jeez
ddniUK 6 months ago
@ddniUK If you want to split hairs about it IMHO your title should say something like 'Quake on my MODIFIED Amiga 1200 BPPC' because you know as well as i do most people have no idea what the BPPC means. Why should they it relates to obsolete dead technology most have never used or needed to understand. As i've said several times what you've done is very cool, but the title is misleading. Since then i've been battling the clueless fanboys, replying to dumb attacks on my argument.
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k
LOL I stand by what I have said.
If you don't like replying to those that you consider "clueless fanboys" then simply don't.
ddniUK 6 months ago
@ddniUK No m8 i enjoy toying with people who don't bother to think before they post. Am still waiting for someone to post a coherent rebuttal of mine and nekto555's initial argument ........... still waiting ........ guess this could take some time.
Speak soon :)
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k
So when you expand your pc does that mean its no longer a pc?
carvedeye 6 months ago
@carvedeye
ROFLMFAO ..... dood that is THE worst analogy EVER !!!!
The PC is defined by the fact its a collection of various components from different manufacturers.
PC isn't really a computer its set of standards for 'COMPUTING', meet all the standards you have a working computer.
Now if i took a computer similar in nature to an Amiga. Say a Dec Alpha ( you google that ), then yeah if i expand it enough in certain areas at some point it does stop being a Dec Alpha or an Amiga for that matter.
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k
Ok does it run windows NO, does it run linux NO does it run workbench/Amiga OS 3.5 or 3.9 YES IT FUCKING DOES does it run amiga games from the floppy drive with real amiga disks YES it does, the reason it can run the quake games is becuase they are now open source if i was to run quake on my mac would that make my mac a pc ? No it would not .
carvedeye 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k The first thing I did back in 1992 when I got my 486/25sx was to upgrade the memory, install a CD-Rom drive. Was it still the same pc I bought? Sure was but it was better. Look at how people mod thier cars and trucks. Upgraded something doesn't mean it isn't what you had originally and if you a pc and don't upgrade what's wrong with you? So what if it is an upgraded Amiga, it is still an Amiga.
zenmonk9003 6 months ago
@zenmonk9003 Obviously your yet another nostalgia stoned fan boy, who fails to comprehend what an 'IBM compatible PC' actually is. Look through my other msgs as i have already previously demolished the upgraded PC = Amiga argument. Next time try to read the whole thread before casting your barely thought out pearls of wisdom. :)
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k Number 1) I don't drink or smoke dope so nix that one. Number 2) You are seriously an angry indvidual. Number 3) I never said nor do I think an upgraded PC = an Amiga however if you are running the Amiga OS on a PC then yes it basically is as it is the operating system not the machine. All PC are basically the same no matter who makes them or what OS they run. You can build a pc from different parts but do you use linux, Windows, or different OS?
zenmonk9003 6 months ago
@zenmonk9003 Bro, seriously. No offence but is English a 2nd language or are you incredibly stupid?? 'Nostalgia stone' is not a reference to drugs in any way at all, i'd have though any moderately intelligent mammal could work that out. Ask someone who finished high school to explain the phrase to you. Angry not at all, am surprised you ( though thinking back to the nostalgia issue maybe am not ) assumed that.
You still do not comprehend what an IBM compatible is though, you should look it up.
Blowfeld20k 6 months ago
@Blowfeld20k + others
Get a grip people. COMMENTS DISABLED.
ddniUK 6 months ago
@ddniUK
Nope, he's right you're wrong what you have is a heavily modified and upgraded Amiga 1200.
nomarch 7 months ago
@ddniUK
you just dont like to admit hes right
Capeau 6 months ago
Wow! Pretty fast and responsive!
Have you tried Unreal Tournament?
tripdefect87 9 months ago
I have Quake running on my 17 year old A4000 with a Warp Engine '040/40 and 48 Mb of RAM. What's cool is it runs off the HD without needing the CD in the Drive. I bought mine from Clickboom, but couldn't get N2 Euroburn.
Toastrman 10 months ago
It's a shame Commodore collpsed or we might've been watching this video on an Amiga.
Kousaburo 10 months ago 39
looks epic... id love to get another amiga 1200 new then mod the hell out of it and make some tuneage! ...only trouble is finding the parts these days, like a sampler box and various other ram cards, cd input and all that is a bastard :( no way id find it all
kragle2008 10 months ago
I dont see why it wont run, I have ran quake on a lot less.
ironchef3500 11 months ago
Very nice, it runs smooth as silk.
DANW547 1 year ago
:-O Quake on an Amiga........
Mrmynameisminetwice 1 year ago
Strange - this seems to run better than a P200 MMX with a 3DFX... yet such a machine is probably 20 times more powerful than an amiga 1200.
Must be lies
iris030380 1 year ago
quake ? what is it? it's not doom ? OO
agamerful 1 year ago
@agamerful wait, you don't know what Quake is? XD
TheWaveringRadiant 8 months ago
Wad is a Wad! FUCKIN PRICELESS ! :)
MrLunithy 1 year ago
fuck this looks a thousand times better than the n64 version the graphics on that console are so blurry
Rilyn666 1 year ago
Do you have the original CD or it is one of those lame download?
SuperDave341 1 year ago
@SuperDave341
Hmm not sure what you mean about "lame download", it is the original PC Quake WAD files running on an Amiga executable from Aminet.
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK I meant by ''lame download'' that you have downloaded the game (Either free or you have paid for it) digitaly. So is that Quake a Physicial Copie installed on the Amiga or a downloaded one?
SuperDave341 1 year ago
@SuperDave341
The Wads used here came from my PC CD version of Quake. You can of course use downloaded wads too... a Wad is a Wad!
ddniUK 1 year ago 12
@ddniUK Nahhhh, my Wad is bigger.
But, much more fun to just use WinUAE and don't have 5,000 disks and CD's sitting around.
Large Monitor with flicker fixer and crappy screen modes.
I have a virtual Amiga 4000 with 64 megs of memmory running an 060 at top speed.
Not bragging but with that power I can run anything ever made for a real Amiga except for the PPC stuff.
Waiting for them to emulate that too.
As a note, make WHLoad free because it's obsolete, I'm tired of useing the cracked version.
kpreston69 6 months ago
@SuperDave341 Why would a downloaded version be lame?
EmperorofCartoons 11 months ago
@ddniUK Guy, quake don't have any .wad files....
Rako692 11 months ago
@Rako692 lol How silly of me! I clearly meant them other types of files like what Quake has ;)
ddniUK 11 months ago
@ddniUK .pak files
SteveC935 10 months ago
@Rako692 Actually it does, it uses them to store textures.
TheBetaTube 11 months ago
This is amazing. I love the Amiga, never seen one remotely as quick as this! Respect Sir.
ExigeGT3 1 year ago
kłamstwo leszczu
kleke84 1 year ago
@kleke84
In English?
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK he called you a lier.
DS1221 1 year ago
@DS1221 Who Kleke84?
ddniUK 1 year ago
Very impressive! but I guess this is no stock A1200
muyuu 1 year ago
this is an a-1200 speced out its nut, no standard A-1200 could even begin to run this game.
(1999/2000 voodoo 3 card, pc based card that is very overpowered for running this game)
but this is a good illistration how you can breath new life into old hardware.
i still have an amiga a500+, atari st ste and an old k6-2 350mhz win 95 machine
still use them.
best at beign viable is my STE,which i use cubase, connect to my new fender g-dec, bass pod, drumkit etc midi to a sound desk and record demos on
cant1rac 1 year ago
@ddniUK This is a cool vid; great job. Is THAT a worthwhile post?
analyzingfunny 1 year ago
Heh this is barely an Amiga anymore with all those upgrades, but nice project anyway :)
MrMegazuki 1 year ago
The a1200 was never really a powerhouse, even by 1994 standards, it's surprising to see it run this game at all.
colonforsecs 1 year ago
@colonforsecs
Are your joking? the amiga was ahead of its time, the only computer that had true multitasking aswell as being a gaming system :)
carvedeye 1 year ago
What is the point in putting the amiga into this kind of brag-off. Why not let amiga be an amiga, what is the point in testing an amiga up against modern hardware. Let the amiga be an amiga. Whats next, will you compare the amiga with a nvidia gtx 280? I had an amiga and i loved it, let the amiga be an amiga, dont put it up against modern computers. Its really lame.
Databamse 1 year ago
@Databamse
That coment shows that you don't know what amigas are like today. AmigaOS 4.1 exists and it runs on new hardware to begin with. The hardware isn't anything revolutionary like it was in 1985 but it exists and it's weird to make that statement that you did. You can think of Commodore Amigas as the only ones that ever existed and an era of its own which is ok and I get your point but the Amiga was and is an computer and could and can be upgraded. What they did on stock hw was amazing.
hotrodswe 1 year ago
amazing
runken11 1 year ago
hell YEA!!!!!!!!!
HeLLVaderous 1 year ago
@ddniUK Oh, don't get me wrong, your Amiga videos (and your system) are impressive - they marry my favourite computer with my favourite FPS games.
People once thought that Doom was out of the Amiga's reach, and here they're proved wrong, then along comes the Quakes - it would be awesome if Doom 3 could be done though, wouldn't it? :)
Foebane72 1 year ago
I didn't think any Amiga was powerful enough to run games past the early 90's. When did they stop making the Amiga computer?
TargetRender 1 year ago
yeah, the famous Quake port on Amiga... played this on A1200 with PowerPC processor at least 10 years ago :)
BlueNeon81 1 year ago
do the graphics of the game run through the amiga graphics card or does the amica pc run the graphics through it's software and then present it through the graphics card like a television?
irelandopera 1 year ago
@irelandopera
The Amiga renders the scene through Warp3D. There is no PC involved at all
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK PC=Personal Computer, how does the Amiga not qualify as a PC?
danyearight 1 year ago
@danyearight PC = IBM PC Compatable.
Idiot.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 IBM PC= just that a IBM PC. Just a PC=Personal computer. This can be a Mac a Amiga or a Windows based PC. Its ok I know its hard to understand and you resort to name calling.
danyearight 1 year ago
@danyearight It's so hard to understand, that you don't understand it! when people say PC, they mean IBM PC. when I buy a peice of software that says PC on it, it doesn't work on a mac or amiga.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
NICE vid
shinobiung 1 year ago
This is not a stock Amiga A1200. You upgraded the piss outta that thing :)
psyjax 1 year ago
Commodore was still around with their Amiga's when Quake came out!? I didn't know that. I see you've got Wipeout running on an Amiga too! How is that even possible? or is it just a PC with an Amiga OS?
ncshuriken 1 year ago
@ncshuriken
Hi ta for the comment!
It is NOT running on PC or emulator. It is running on real AMIGA hardware.
ddniUK 1 year ago
How can the amiga produce such graphics? they're even better than the playstation! This must obviously be fake!
rka18282 1 year ago
@rka18282 it probably isnt a fake. Theres no way a stock A1200 could run a fps smoothly in fullscreen but unlike the ps1, Amigas are computers not consoles and can be upgraded
TrevHead10 1 year ago
alien breed was trash though
Reaverbot 1 year ago
r u using the 060 or ppc for quake ?
julzinka 1 year ago
@julzinka
PPC
ddniUK 1 year ago
lol .... lag!
r8qt7 1 year ago
if only commodore supported better the original Amiga in his last days,we would have an amigaos that could wipe out any windows or linux any day..still hoping for that
Zontar82 1 year ago
LOL WUT?
AWESOME90002 1 year ago
If it has voodoo card, then u know it has mega balls.
GamingPalooza 1 year ago
Im curious. No OpenGL hardware acceleration on an Amiga, right? Are you running OpenGL through a sofware renderer, like Mesa?
starsiegeplayer 1 year ago
whats with the gamespeed in the demo? suuuper fast
phalxor 1 year ago
@phalxor
It is a timedemo. That means it runs through a set number of frames as quickly as it can. Therefore you will see the game run far faster than when in normal play... You should see it on my newly upgraded 330mhz BPPC !!!!!!
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK I don't know why I didn't know that.. cheers
phalxor 1 year ago
Wow 3D in amiga...
Konrad123pl 1 year ago
It looks like quake runs cool, but you cannot really say that much of the original Amiga is in use can you? I had a Falcon 30 which I could run the graphics to support SVGA in full color, and ran it at 32mhz over the original 16mhz, but all I did was add new crystals to support overclocking. The hardware was still the same though. If I remember corectly the A1200 only had a 68020E processor and suported a few Megs of Ram. Nice Job though.
meowmmmmm 1 year ago
would you post a video of you actually playing it?
I do truely believe this but just playing a start up demo could be easliey spoofed
qwertyperpy 1 year ago
I love Amiga but even so this performance is easily achievable on a windows 486 using similar specs, i recon you could get Q1 on a pc as low as 30mhz with 128 ram, technically as long as you have relatively lots of ram the game doesn't really go hard on the processor. So im sure that this video is 100% real
ukogno 1 year ago
Cool!
baneskrbic 2 years ago
I find it amazing that I can play this game on my gp2x so well.
christo930 2 years ago
dont see point of the current holders of amiga releaseing new operating systems when the hardware thats required to run it makes it more expensive than to buy an ordinary windows pc!
tiger5455 2 years ago
don't see the point in Ferrari creating a new Fuel management system, when the car to run it is more expensive than an ordinary Ford.
ddniUK 2 years ago 4
Man, that was brilliant.
pgtlaser 2 years ago
The latest update to Amiga OS 4.1 was released on January the 14th.
PhotoRealisticBeaver 2 years ago
Amiga benefiting from PC originated technology - how ironic :) (Voodoo in this case)
reav3rtm 2 years ago
lol true.
BUT just think....
Imagine having Cutom graphics chips to take the rendering workload off of the CPU.... How Amiga :)
ddniUK 2 years ago
why did you make this video?
Wickedgardengtp 2 years ago
But my Atari with 68k moto does the same.
vlgtube 2 years ago
@vlgtube
LOL you wish!!!
ddniUK 2 years ago
Yes we can.
vlgtube 2 years ago
I'm having a 1989 deja vu here :)
rvounik 2 years ago
You must have been psychic back in '89.
Nothing in this video, including the Hardware, AmigaOS or Quake existed in 1989.
ddniUK 2 years ago 15
Hey, Im on your side! I was replying to vlgtube who is defending his Atari as if it was 1989 ;) In fact, Im trying to get Quake to run as fast on my machine (240mhz) as it does on yours. Seems the Mediator makes all the difference.
rvounik 2 years ago
@ddniUK Actually Amiga OS was released in 85. I owned an Amiga 500 in 1987, and it came with Amiga OS.
HaligonianType1 1 year ago
@HaligonianType1
You are of course correct, I meant AmigaOS 3.9. Was not available in 1989.
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK It existed in 1992, or 3 years before Quake I
jci10 1 year ago
@jci10
you are wrong, AmigaOS 3.9 had it's first public demonstration on December 9th, 2000 at the World of Amiga 2000 in Cologne, Germany.
ddniUK 1 year ago
@ddniUK
AmigaDOS existed in 1989... 3.9 didn't, but 2.04 did.
Hiraghm 1 year ago
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NeoHoshi 1 year ago
nice
quinnman65 2 years ago
not bad @ all!
CUR50R 2 years ago
what kind of ethernet card you have in there ? if it's slow, you may be getting mashed because of lag. I don't think playing on a quad core wouldn't make a difference your system runs pretty fast enough.
jarjar2b 2 years ago
Oh come on. When it comes to an oldschool Amiga, using a PPC is bad enough, but sticking a 3D card in as well falls way past cheating.
But, having said that, it's still pretty cool.
iamgreaser 2 years ago
LOL "Only Amiga makes it possible"
ddniUK 2 years ago
That's not cheating, just like upgrading your video card to run Crysis well is not "cheating". That's just upgrading a computer, something that on classic Amigas could be done but nobody did because no commercial games supported upgrades.
DevilMaster 2 years ago
DevilMaster: It wasn't the software developers. It was the users. People were not ready for this kind of technology so they killed it. Amiga was way ahead of its time.
ancalimonungol 2 years ago
"Amiga was way ahead of its time."
In 1985 it sure was. And the only reason people "were not ready" for upgrades is that... no game supported them. And who wrote the games? Certainly not users.
DevilMaster 2 years ago
yes that was real reason cause everybody could expand their amiga with PowerPc in 1985.
:)
vlgtube 2 years ago
WTF? The Amiga was brand new in 1985, but it was pretty old when it should've been upgraded to something better.
DevilMaster 2 years ago
Its not about upgrades. There was no cheap Amiga where you could add easily GFX CARD, so wheres the point? Developers? I dont think so, developers for Amiga do really good job. Users? Well, i dont think so. So wheres the point?
vlgtube 2 years ago
Amiga developers didn't exactly do "good jobs". Look at the Amiga version of MK2: it was a total disaster! Not only it was made to run on 7-year-old hardware, it wasn't even the best that could be done on it. It didn't even use EHB, nor did it use the original sound effects of the arcade and PC version. And what's most pathetic... the PC version used IFF sound effects. The Amiga version could've used them without any problem, but it did not. Why? Because the developers did a terrible job!
DevilMaster 2 years ago
Because it was time of crisis. And after crisis it was time of progress and PC won.
I know the same story from Atari side. Amiga company fail and no single game could change this nor any of us. Thts sad but Amiga still has quite good support.
Mind that Apple got problems too bu survive even without strong in entertainment.
vlgtube 2 years ago
So the fact is that Amiga World was stupid and loose their chance, insted fight to Atari which was weaker should concentrate their power to constructive and creative work. It wont happen because they got problems with new technologies as well as the selling 1200 Amiga for low price even it was overpriced compare to Atari. Well, i dont know situation but i think Commodore was stupid. Atari too.
vlgtube 2 years ago
Really, i can't believe, is there some video of Q3 for beloved AMIGAS puter, or if not, please, can you or someone make it, would be really interesting, QUAKE III for AMIGA !
Dafama2k7 2 years ago
And QUAKE 3 for AMIGA, will it be some day ???
Dafama2k7 2 years ago
Yes it exists.
It only runs under OS4 or better.
It also runs on an "Amiga like" OS called MorphOS
ddniUK 2 years ago
Is power pc now amiga rather visa versa! Jesus i did not know that if i am reading right
20RoyalSuperKing 2 years ago
ok but its no amiga anymore.
thorgallpl 2 years ago
Ok, ta but can you expand on your comment?
ddniUK 2 years ago
yes it's just a (too expensiv) power pc
r8qt7 2 years ago
Price doesn't stop it being an Amiga. It is expensive due to its' rarity that is all.
The OS is running AMIGA os3.9 on 68k processor. The game is PPC - AMIGA PPC.
Ask yourself this...
Did an Apple Macintosh stop being an Apple Macintosh when it no longer used a 68040?
ddniUK 2 years ago
the amiga was that successful because it has incredible power with a cheap price.
Today you have much more performance and probably reliability if you use a cheap pc with linux.
How about converting MorphOS to the x86/x64 architecture. should bring new user to the community
r8qt7 2 years ago
Right. In fact, Macs are really NeXT machines in disguise. Their OS is the NeXT kernal. Your Amiga is more of an Amiga than any Mac today is a Mac.
jci10 2 years ago
Very true. Although I wish apple and next made separate lines of computers. I miss NeXTSTEP and classic mac os.
richardmaudsley77 2 years ago
Sheez, it runs better on Amiga than on my PC I used in 1997 to play Quake!
jimbotron70 2 years ago 16
@jimbotron70 quake 5 isent out yet? or do you mean enemy territory?
misterlolzers 1 year ago
@misterlolzers
Uhm, the number 5 is from youtube users, not from me :P
I meant Quake, the original..
jimbotron70 1 year ago
@jimbotron70 i know i just said that for the lolz
misterlolzers 1 year ago
I remember playing civilization 1 on my brothers amiga1200 units moved in slow motion and every time i pressed next turn it took like five minutes to load it didnt stop me from playing tho
opaz79 2 years ago
i pomyśleć że kiedyś taka amiga była moim marzeniem
DonRudolfo1985 2 years ago
Is this crysis?
xivid1234 2 years ago 4
lol
In Amiga terms this is crysis 2.5 ! ;)
ddniUK 2 years ago
ok someone help me get this straight, i remember the amiga having like 1 MB ram and so on,but how the hell do you people get like 175mhz - 233mhz on an AMIGA?!? And what was the purpose of these "overpowered" amigas?
Someone who knows this answer plz..tnX
geisha62 2 years ago