DIY Homemade Records Found At Flea Market Family Songs

[oatstao]

thanks for sharing those. I have a few of the diy's. I enjoyed the first one most.. but they are all interesting. I wish $10 vinyl stops still existed. Bob Marley recorded early stuff like this.

[iHaveAnger]

I'm 12 and I went back in time to aid the invention of the original Victrola Talking Machines. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[sabbat666]

i'm 27 and i listen to vinyl. so fucking what.

[jetglo330]

I'm 37 and I found seven 7" DIY records at an estate sale a couple years ago but I need a 78rpm turntable to hear them properly :P

I love finding treasures like these records and old home movies or slides, but at the same time, I'm a bit sad that they're no longer with the person's family/descendents... you know? ("All those people, all those lives- where are they now?") I hope you take extra special care of them :D

[taylorbortnerathing]

yeah well i'm 19 and i like vinyl too. i have over 70 records, some really rare, dating from the 1960's to 2011. does that make me cool?

[djanchovy]

@taylorbortnerathing No, it just shows you have good taste.

[taylorbortnerathing]

@djanchovy i was hoping i didn't have to explain that i was poking fun at the trend amongst young people to boast that they have knowledge of something. you constantly see comments on videos of kids saying "i'm 14 and like this", whatever it may be. as if they take extra pride in knowing about it because they're young.

i'm tempted to think that the 17 year is making up his story, because i have a 10 year old brother and i'm pretty sure he knows what a vinyl record is.

[djanchovy]

@taylorbortnerathing Old age is not being nice to me, lol! Enjoy your records.

[taylorbortnerathing]

@djanchovy i always do!

[melitosse]

@taylorbortnerathing Well I'm 19 too, I never buy cds. I have over 300 records, mostly, psych, garage, library music, post-punk and some ufos dating from the 50's to 2011. Does that make me insane ?

[taylorbortnerathing]

@melitosse yes, you should see a psychiatrist.

[78rpmblog]

@melitosse It's a wonderful insanity! :)

[gamecubedude03]

I'm also seventeen, and I love vinyl. Not only with older stuff like The Beatles, but with the newer bands that still produce them. Great sound quality.

[GrantRamsay82]

I'm 17 and some of my friends (when digging through my vinyl) have genuinely asked what those "big dvds are" looooooollll... I love vinyl, the fact it's 'physically played'... really unique <3

[djanchovy]

@GrantRamsay82 Yeah, that's funny. It's nice to hear about 17 year olds enjoying vinyl. Keep digging!

[guyalanlewis]

@GrantRamsay82 Bollocks have they. I can't think of a single person I know, 17 or not, who doesn't know what vinyl is. Stop posting crap just to get thumbs up.

[youthXattack]

@GrantRamsay82 Sounds like you have a collection of laserdisks not vinyl. nice lame ass attempt to get thumbs up.

[RICKROLLBLENDER]

found a 78 of these with I'll be Home for Christmas... it's nothing flash; but I'll post it if you want me to

[mendali]

DUDE this would make a great compilation disc. rip these and start a blog! I'd subscribe in a minute.

[staticmunk7777]

nice n scratchy i love them

[DJelectfire]

these would have been fun to scratch with! and for old times sake! even older? try gramaphone- even older? - then- wax cylinder recordings-

[silntdoogood]

I was at an antique store where they had a record player that had a "record" feature for cutting records. It was produced during WWI I believe, so you could cut records and send them to family at war.

[CassetteRookie]

Are they 78RPM?

[djanchovy]

@CassetteRookie Not sure, I sold them some time ago.

[dmstealth]

0:34 Magic moments LOL

[kuposzczaq]

omg thats great. use it wisely.

[plasmar1]

djanchovy, the 2nd track sounds to be portuguese... you might want to find someone local there who might understand wtf it says since its not clear enough for me to understand:P... the 3rd might might also be but it sounds way :S, the kid can't sing:P, pitch problems:P....

[dandycowboy]

it really is in portuguese, the song tell a story about how her mother and father-in-law piss her of or something like that (i'm not much into protuguese from portugal, i'm from brazil).

[PressureWave]

@dandycowboy SO IN THAT CASE YOU SPEAKING PORTUGUESE BECAUSE DOES NOT EXISTE SUCH THING A PORTUGUESE FROM BRASIL, YOU SPEAK PORTUGUESE AND END OF THE SUBJECT

[dandycowboy]

@PressureWave it does exist a huge accent difference, and there's no need to be rude as you were about that.

[PressureWave]

@dandycowboy No, I have not been rude at all, about the accent, yes it's true but that does not mean you do not speak Portuguese, that's what you speak.

Let me kive you an example, in Scotland they do speak English, with accent, but they do speak English, that's all, now I have been rude in what way?

I do like Brasil, nothing againts apart from that the Brasilian girls they have the best BUNDAS...in the all WORLD...JUST BE HAPPY...

[fromthesidelines]

As far as I know, 'Swing', there's no "official" deposit of that particular "SEALTEST VILLAGE STORE" program anywhere (it's considered a "lost epiosde" by most old-time radio collectors). At that time, network radio shows were presented "live"- NO rebroadcasts. Whoever recorded it that evening in 1945 did it as it was originally broadcast. By all means, find a "33" turntable if you can. Incidentally, Easter Sunday fell on April 1st in '45.

[SwingMan1937]

Wow! Easter on April Fools?

Finding a 33 1/3 table is easy, but, these days, finding the $ for one isn't - especially with decent stylus & cartridge costs alone running well into 3 figures.

Don't worry, though. The discs are in dry, well maintained storage and I will post them on my channel once they're archived.

The high rolloff is pretty dramatic (AM?), but the broadcast is still loud, clear and full.

[fromthesidelines]

33 1/3 rpm was used for Warner Bros.' "Vitaphone" sound-on-disc system for "talking pictures" {perfected by Western Electric} as early as 1926, 'kurisux' [each disc could hold ten minutes- one reel- of synchonized sound]. As I've mentioned, that speed was primarily used for radio transcription discs [16 inch, 15 minutes per side] from the late '20s through the '50s.

[fromthesidelines]

33 1/3 rpm was the "standard" speed for recording radio transcriptions (16 inch discs), before the commercial "long-playing record" was perfected and introduced in 1948. "DIY" home recorders could record and play back "homemade" discs at "transcription" speed...and that March 30, 1945 "SEALTEST" radio show is a RARE one, 'Swing'- no one seems to have an "official" transcription of that program.

[SwingMan1937]

I hear ya. These discs are slightly larger than 45's (about 7 1/2") - they look similar to the ones in this video.

WOW! No one seems to have any transcription of the March 30, 1945 Sealtest Broadcast? I made a tape recording of 'em (3 sides on 2 records, each side averaging just over 9 minutes) right after I snagged 'em, but it's long gone & I presently have no turntable to archive them with.

(con't)

[SwingMan1937]

The program concerns Joan and Jack in a scheme to raise money for the store that ends up with Jack entering a prize fight contest and, in the announcer's closing remarks, he wishes everyone a Happy Easter (early!).

Near the end of the first side, there's a spoken bread commercial and then an orchestra interlude with vocal group.

You might want to double check w/the above info, as I have no idea if it might be a re-broadcast or not - the fidelity sure sounded live, but I can't be 100% sure.

[thePharoah90086]

I-too , LOVE finding-Stuff like-This !!!

[KKD1247]

What a cool set of records to find!

[fromthesidelines]

...probably cut in 1946.

[SwingMan1937]

If you're referring to my Sealtest Village Store home records, the handwritten note on the labels say "3-30-1945"

[fromthesidelines]

"SEALTEST VILLAGE STORE" was on NBC's Thursday night schedule at 9:30pm(et), following Bing Crosby's "KRAFT MUSIC HALL" [both shared the same sponsor, Kraft Foods]. Edward Paul conducted the "Sealtest" orchestra during the Davis-Haley run (1943-'45), 'Swing'; Sharon Douglas, Shirley Mitchell and Verna Felton were regular cast members. However, THIS disc is strictly "homemade", with members of an unknown family taking turns vocalizing with a guitar accompaniment...

[SwingMan1937]

I picked a couple of these up in a grab bag special at a yard sale in the late 1980's - glass records w/acetate surface.

The content?

A home recording (3 parts) of a radio broadcast of "The Sealtest Village Store" from 3-30-1945.

How they patched the radio to the lathe, I have no idea, but they're VERY high quality home recordings.

The strange thing? They were indeed cut at 33 1/3 rpm and are playable on any modern turntable! Home recorded in 1945, remember.....

[djanchovy]

That's fantastic! Cool find.

[SwingMan1937]

As are yours.

Yeah, I was amazed that the discs (2) turned out to be, basically, a homemade aircheck of a 30 minute show (about 10 minutes per side) - complete with commercials and band interludes. No static whatsoever and, if the high roll-off wasn't so dramatic, I'd swear they were cut live at the studio - I guess it was live anyways, but you get what I'm saying. ;) Great sound.

Joan Davis and Jack Haley headed the cast - have no idea who the bandleader or supporting cast was, though.

[kurisux]

Must have been some kind of odd coincidence, the 33 RPM thing, because that speed can logically be derived by anyone with basic machinery knowledge. Add in the fact that the speed format was not released untill 1948 and you have something very odd going on there.

[SwingMan1937]

No lie - even stranger was the fact that they're playable with a conventional .7 mil LP stylus instead of the common-to-the-day 3 mil 78rpm stylus.

Tried 'em at 78rpm when I first snagged 'em in 1987 & heard chipmunks - 45rpm & heard helium lungs - then at 33 1/3 and heard voices telling jokes - with extremely rich sound and fidelity, the original AM radio source and home equipment recording nonwithstanding.

Also has "Recorded with Saphire needle" handwritten on the first part label.

[kurisux]

Oh, I am not doubting you on the validity of them: I would believe it, honestly. I just truly wonder HOW they came into existence.

Maybe they were done by someone who was involved in the development of the 33 RPM format, and are some part of a personal experiment involving that?

Just one crazy theory, but it certainly would be wonderful to see these in action: maybe for someone to study them and try to figure their origin out.

In any case, beyond incredible find. Please, get video ASAP.

[SwingMan1937]

I would in a heartbeat - if I had a suitable 33 1/3 turntable.

78's are no problem for me to archive right now, but I'm not about to play these babies when the only stylus I have is a 3 mil elliptical.

They're safe & sound, though, and, with this particular show's apparent rarity, you can count on my posting them in the future. :)

No idea on the origins other than I snagged 'em piecemeal from a mixed bag/box at a yard sale some 22 years ago from an eldery lady in Phoenix cleaning house.

[kurisux]

Well, considering "fromthesidelines" comments on transcription speed, these maybe must really be just some random home recording VS any kind of experamentation.

Little information seems to be out there on the 33 1/3 RPM playing speed origins, just alot on the LP format itself.

As stated earlier, 33 was derived from some ratio gearing of a standard motor, so it would make sense for the speed setting to exist in one way or another before the LP itself really came to be.

[SwingMan1937]

Oh yeah. 33 1/3 rpm discs were issued commercially as early as 1933 - RCA Victor issued a series of these 10", one-sided, "regular" (not microgroove) groove discs called "Program Transcriptions" in 1933 that consisted of a selected band (Paul Whiteman & Duke Ellington, among others) usually playing 3 song "medleys" that lasted around 8-9 minutes a piece.

Unfortunately, they were the HD DVD of its day, as noone had the machines to play them & they only lasted a few issues for that single year.

[kurisux]

Wow, wonderful information. Obviously new to me, and great to know.

It certainly would make sense then that the developers of the LP would use an already established speed to create a long playing music format.

and, as fromthesidelines said, please do, as soon as possible, try to digitally record these! What you are holding certainly may be the only copies in existance of these broadcasts!

I am sure you can find a decent quality used turntable: you won't need a ultra hi-fi system for this.

[SwingMan1937]

Voila!

Someone recently posted a demo of one of these 1933 RCA Victor "LPs", along with an ultra rare 1934 vintage 33 1/3 player - just paste "watch?v=K0Gf5AK1DQI" at the end of the YouTube address in your browser to watch.

And, again, rest assured - my homemade Sealtest records are in well maintained, dry, cool storage (my own place ;) ) and will continue to be lovingly preserved until I can archive 'em. They ain't going nowhere. ;)

[kurisux]

*laughs* so for all points and purposes RCA invented the LP concept.

My God they were geniuses, weren't they?

[wilkes85]

not to mention colour TV, stereo sound, RCA jacks, and other such things we can't live without today lol

[agfamatic91]

@SwingMan1937

if they play at 33 1/3 rpm they are radio tranchription discs.

radio tranchription discs was used in radio stations before tape recorders become avaveble to record radio shows for later air play. so thats why they are so high quality

[SwingMan1937]

@agfamatic91 Nah, these are definitely home recorded discs - they're about 7 1/4" in diameter and made of glass with an acetate surface/coating. About 8-9 minutes playing time on each of the 3 sides.

[BognarRegis]

@SwingMan1937 The 33 1/3 rpm format became widely available around 1945. The first mass produced LPs were available in 1946. I used to have a copy of Pirates of Penzance by D'oily Carte that I had to clean with distilled water because it was made from the same kind of lacquer as 78's.

[SwingMan1937]

@BognarRegis Lacquer? 1945?

Shellac was the standard material for 78's - have no idea for LPs as the earliest "conventional" mass-produced LP I've seen was from Columbia in 1949 (in 1933, RCA Victor produced a series of one-sided 10" 33 1/3 rpm "Program Transcriptions" that were a flop the equivalent of HD DVD, as the machines to play them were prohibitively expensive).

Bad news on mine, though - can't seem to find them where I thought they were. Gonna have to go on a dig.

[Interests2009]

Great find(s)

[gnolt]

Last song sounds like alfafa from the little rascles.

[glennmillerfan]

The First Song,I Love You (For Sentimental Reasons) And It Was A Hit Of 1946,So I Am Assuming That Those Records Are Mid To Late 1940s

[nicolaj0154]

that record sounds like a 78?.

[OnlyOneRoad4Life]

I think they did play at 78rpm. I sold them so I can't check.

[weroranch]

AWESOME!!!...