dont feel like posting an essay here so ill shorten this down by quite a bit;
service economy...market forces in such an econ prefer women...moral objections to "what the children feel" is just that, an objection, and is meaningless. you can try and compete with the market and advertise your moral position but thats it.
@rofllolzkek You pretty much just said the market/goverment is more important than the family. Compete with the market?!?!? I realized that its necessary to keep a roof over the house...You really need to practice on how to give your point across. You give three statement in the first sentence that is pretty meaningless. Don't be winded and just say this. Give up, you are a small and insignificant person Stefbot, you can't change anything by telling parents to help there kids. Market owns you.
@TheAdmiralofLife ..You reminded me of students in school talking about enconomic problems. Talking in numbers and forgetting human life and heart. A broken family,by competing in the 'market'. A poor struggling family is better by far...From my own personal experience. It doesn't matter what the children feel,ex cept that they're the next generation,and most of us are gonna be under there thumb in the mid turn of the century of our lives. You really need to think long term implication.
@TheAdmiralofLife actually i totally agree with you. i was simply using stefs own ideological stance and, well, shoving it back in his face...lol. the way he attempts to weave moral philosophies into market theories basically is completely inconsistent. in fact
Thank you! Excellent video! Stay with your children! Staying with my "precious treasured wonderful amazing child" and holding his "treasured golden disco ball fabulous heart" close to me everyday has been my top priority since he was born.
In non-anglo nations, we value the family. Whites value money. You have no culture (except the bits you steal) because the industrial revolution needed cogs not people. The nuclear family was the first step. I'll never truly join the nation I was born into, and neither will my descendants.
Full time work is the enemy. Men used to work full time, but then women joined the workforce, and then surprise surprise, it then took two incomes to live, rather than the hours per person going down. I work part time and so does my "partner". We claim individuality and confound their laws. We will never pawn our child off to strangers. We don't pay tax because we are not part of the slave system and will not support it.
I believe it is all down to how much money is coming into the household. If there is enough coming in to cover living costs it is bound to be better for children to have a happy and contented person at home caring for them and keeping house clean and tidy. Years ago women were encouraged to stay at home. Nowadays there is not seen a choice. Parents need support. Children need love and care and an opportunity for fun and play. I say pay the moms or dads to stay home.
What are the effects on the children...? What are the effects on the children of the father being gone all day? Fuck the idea that women have to stay home for the kids. Let the men stay home half the time.
"What do the kids want? What's better for the children?" Huh? Since when the hell does a child know what's better for them? They'd never go to school, never brush their teeth, always eat junk food, etc...were it not for the "coercion" of the parents teaching them. Also, they need school to learn social skills so as not to grow up socially retarded thereby leading them to becoming attracted to fairy tale notions of Libertarianism. A person learns who they are through interactions with others.
@kropotkinbeard1 A lot of what you say is very true, but school, and parents threatening them (coercion) does not facilitate, but create mental gymnastics and a negative overture for making these things (that you pronounce).
@TheBookArchive "Coercion" doesn't have to be threatening. And I'm not really promoting threatening anyone. I'm also not for letting kids make the decisions. Of course one can manipulate things in such as way so that the kid thinks it was his own decision when it really wasn't. This can be coercion as well. Just slightly more sophisticated. Depends on how one wishes to define the term.
@kropotkinbeard1 Well tricking is a type of jousting I wouldn't engage with kids.....I've just always been 100% truthful to kids....and if you wanted to be it's very possible. You seem to disclaim that it's not when it most definitely is. It's very simple you just have to accept non-violence and treating kids on equal terms, regarding their informational stage. Like not teaching quantum mechanics to someone whose learning to tell time, but not tricking them but giving them a -
@TheBookArchive@kropotkinbeard1 step there....like teachin ghtem how to count. There are ways, and science tells us they are better than all those previous things.
@TheBookArchive "Tricking" as you called it is done by every parent, no exceptions. And while it sounds nice to say that you've been 100% truthful to your kids all the time, I'm afraid that this itself is untruthful. Lots of studies to show how people do not tell the truth all the time. But if it makes you feel better, by all means. It's a admirable goal and endeavour. "Just have to accept non-violence"? I'm a lefty. What are you talking about? And, no, you do not treat kids on equal terms...
@TheBookArchive ...Children aren't intellectually developed enough to have an equal say on much of anything, as has already been pointed out. This VERY naive notion which seems to be prevalent within false-libertarianism sounds much like the very naive notions which Scientologists attempt to use with their little "adults". A parent IS whether we like or not, in a position of authority, and they should be. A responsible parent anyway. If you have ever used reverse psychology, then you've tricked.
@kropotkinbeard1 you treat kids on equal terms like you would any other human being with their capacities is what I meant. if you can lie, you can tell the truth. I've given you examples, you just seem stuck in the mud here, and pointing fingers, and generalizing my responses.....haven't seen any substance.
@TheBookArchive Well, then that's what you should have said. Don't blame me for your lack of clarification. And of course if you can lie you can tell the truth, though the Bush administration seemed to test that notion about as far as it could be tested. And I tell the truth to my kid about as much is humanly possible. Not sure where you're going with this or implying. Substance regarding what? Still no argument.
@kropotkinbeard1 so give me a situations where it isn't possible to reason/tell the truth, and tricking and coercion are the only ways (coercion...I'm assuming if ur compelling with force it's grabbing their hand, physically restraining them etc.....)....and don't forget if theyre about to run into a car that's your fault as a parent that you could have avoided sooner....
@TheBookArchive Oh, and it's always "possible" to tell the truth, perhaps, at least within the realm of possibilities which a priori include the un-truths I've already mentioned we all do all the time. And of course physically preventing them from running in front of cars is a not only reasonable example of compelling them not to do what they wished to do, it's the obviously moral thing to do, regardless of their age or ability to reason. Regarding an example, that's easy. Tell any kid that they
@kropotkinbeard1 This is simple, if a kid don't know how to tie their shoe, and can't learn, you tie it for them and have them watch...etc...or you can make it interesting by incorporating cartoons, and watching cartoons, or making funny sound effects. If I can teach a two year old how to buckle...although it took about an hour, I could have easily lied, but I'm sure I can teach him the beginning's of anything. You're making this into a huge thing and aren't spooning me anything
@TheBookArchive As to your example, it's too vague. Depends on case by case. Why would not tying it for them and having them watch be fun? If they could learn from cartoons, great, though much less likely than on the job training. "I'm making this a big deal"? Huh? I'm doing nothing of the sort. There isn't even an issue here as far as I can see. I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to argue. What argument are you trying to make?
@TheBookArchive ..can't do X for reason Y, the actual reason, and they do it anyway. So, you give them reason Z, perhaps a lesser reason, perhaps completely false, or whatever, it's irrelevant, and yet this stops them from doing X. You can fill in the letters with just about anything depending on the intellectual development of the kid. As far as that goes it can be a fully, rational, functioning adult. Happens all the time.
@kropotkinbeard1 it isn't irrelevent becauyse I remember those lies today from my parents. And it hurt me when I could have learnt the truth. Alls I'm saying is if they can't understand, tell them of what they can understand. That's all. What you say is in supposition of this. If you don't want to lie you don't have to. You're saying it's impossible. I already gave you an example of how one could find it impossible and still get away with it.....you haven't responded to that.
@TheBookArchive I think we're talking about degrees of truth telling, age, and several other factors. There are most definitely ages and issues which a child could not possibly intellectually grasp the truth, and it would therefore be pointless to tell them. Hey, I'm not saying I think lying is good, and shouldn't be avoided whenever possible. I'm simply saying that white lies, lies by ommission, etc...are not always unreasonable. I'm against physically force, unless it's othe type you've ...
@TheBookArchive ...mentioned regarding stopping a kid from running into the street. Telling them what they can understand supports my position. When they can't understand you may have to tell them in a way which may not be factually accurate or even truthful, and this ommission or "alteration" doesn't necessarily have to be bad or cause some sort of lasting trauma. Regarding the impossibility of not lying, perhaps I wasn't being clear. I added this with regards to the fact that there have...
@TheBookArchive ..been many studies done which show that people lie all the time, much of time not even consciously, so wheather or not you choose to lie isn't always quite so cut and dry. I'm wasn't speaking of just sitting there and contemplating lying, weighing the possible impact the lie would have versus the telling of truth, etc...
"A growing body of research shows that people lie constantly, that deception is pervasive in everyday life. One study found that people tell....
@TheBookArchive "....two to three lies every 10 minutes, and even conservative estimates indicate that we lie at least once a day. Such incessant prevarication might be a necessary social evil, and researchers have recently discovered that some fibbing might actually be good for you."
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Good response. Did you have an argument, or just wished to suck your thumb in public? I have a son and he's fine. I'm teaching him the benefits of social consciousness, how altruism is perhaps the highest form of human traits, not to mention biologically natural, how democracy is great and how that it's precisely due to democracy that any advances have been made in morality, how "greed is good" is for pricks, how the "invisible hand" has 5 broken fingers, etc...You know, just ..
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..the normal things dealing with rationality and reality that any caring person would teach their kid. Probably have him start readin Chomsky in a few years. Already wipes his butt with Ayn Rand, which is a good sign. I can keep going of you wish. I mean, if you're not going to make an argument I may as well try and help you. You teaching your kids that "taxes are theft" or something? Hahahahaha...Have you taught them that they "own themselves"? Hahahaha..."Coercion?" Haha /snore
@kropotkinbeard1 I noticed on your self-indulgent laundry list of righteous ideas you're so generously imparting unto your child, thinking critically isn't one of them, quite the opposite in fact as you have every intention of shoving your own slimy ideological shaft down his throat. I would GLADLY debate you if only to give your son a 5 minute reprieve from this assault but sadly I can see I'm not the only one you've decided to troll here and frankly I just don't have the fucking stomach for it
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Boring! That being said, righteous ideas are a bad thing? And your charge of not thinking critically is blather of which, as is to be expected, offer no evidence for. Critically thinking people would have thought of that first. Teaching my kids how to be a moral agent, recognize the fact that most all people are social creatures first and foremost, and that deviant notions to the contrary display uncritical thinking, perhaps a handicap, should be pitied or flushed, is good.
@kropotkinbeard1 only 1 direct response to you not 3. I don't want to get dragged into the mud by someone who thinks "'it's precisely due to democracy that any advances have been made in morality". World wars, Iraq, Afghanistan, multiple wars and engagements and occupations, drug wars, poor robbed by inflation all perpetrated by democracies around the world; quite the high price to pay for "advances in morality".
@MOONDOGGIESWTF So the other responses were more or less worthless wastes of time, say, trolling? You're already in the mud and it seems to be slowing you waaaay down. Regarding your nonsensical claims about democracies causing world wars, etc...I must simply laugh. Nothing you've mentioned were due to democracy. Most were rather movements away from democracy. That being said, not sure what "democracies" you believe have participated in these atrocities. You sound more like you're referring to
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..the U.S. Most every action the U.S. has taken has been a demonstration of a lack of democracy in action. Not sure what planet you've been living on. But assuming that you were referring to the U.S., yes, I would agree that it has participated in these things, all of them which I and most of the left have always opposed, as most all history shows. The problem is that it gets involved in these things precisely by shunning democracy as most folks wanted none of it. Well, who...
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ...does want this stuff to keep going on and on? Not the population. Private tyrannies who are benefiting from the "racket of war" as Gen. Smedley Butler was talking about decades ago. A LACK of democracy has been the problem. Most democratically-minded rational people do not want war. Well, what's the problem? That being said, advances in racism, sexism, minority rights, and just about every other moral thing has come about due to democratic thinking. No exceptions.
@MOONDOGGIESWTF You have nothing to offer by way of debate as you've already made clear. This is your, what, third of more response and you've done nothig yet except project. And the "trolling" babble is predictable as well. Any time one has nothing to offer they usually pull out the "trolling" crap. Boring, predictable...But if you have any evidence, for once, please present it. Otherwise go teach your kid how "altruism is evil" while my kid prepares to be his therapist. You have no guts. Yes.
@kropotkinbeard1 you admonish me for not providing evidence for what? a factual observation that of the most important things you thought I should know you were teaching your kid, critical thinking was not explicitly one of them yet indoctrination of certain ideologies fetishizing democracy was. all the while making grand assertions, by my standards, some reasonable some not without any evidence AND baselessly implying that I would teach my child altruism is evil, greed is good etc
@MOONDOGGIESWTF I admonish you for coming here and whining and not providing evidence for any assertion you've thus far made, be it trolling, critical thinking, etc...All nonsense. "Fetishizing democracy"? Haha...How does one do that? Discuss the basics of the morality of it? No need. Critical thinking people are already aware of this. You're still babbling and not saying anything. You're making no arguments, and have presented no evidence to support your assertions. Regarding what you might...
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ...teach your child, well, since you're not saying anything, I'm left to guess. That being said, I DO hope my baseless implication that you would teach your child the Randian deviant notion of altruism being evil is incorrect. I would be more impressed if you just tried making an argument, even once.
@kropotkinbeard1 just stop. it's embarrassing really. From the start I've said I'm not interested in debating / arguing / discussing / unpacking my ideas with you, yet you've proceeded to type out response after response. a youtube comment section may be where you like to stimulate yourself intellectually, that much is at least vindicated by the quality and naivete of your positions. i'll let your ego get the inevitable last word it so hungrily desires in this unfortunate exchange. proceed
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Yes, it is embarrassing. I keep asking you make an argument, provie evidence to support any of your assertions, etc...and still nothing. That you're not yet embarrassed really is embarrassing. I sort of feel like I do just about every time any of the GOP open their traps just waiting to see what next piece of flotsam leaks out. And if you're not interested in debating, etc...then shut the hell up and go away, and quit trolling. See, THIS is an example of trolling.
@MOONDOGGIESWTF And that I've typed out responses demonstrates that I'm the only one doing anything here. You really should stop now before your hole gets as deep as Rand's did nearing the end of her miserable and worthless life. And I'm more than happy to "stimulate myself" if there's no one else around to engage. No problem at all. So, this is now what, the 5th comment you've left saying exactly nothing? You're funny. And, again, you made an assertion regarding the supposed "naivete of my..
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..opinions" without giving a single word of evidence. You have nothing, and if you did you'd STFU and attempt an argument of some sort. My hunch is that you're avoiding doing this very thing by discussing nothing in every comment. Want to talk about the color of my underwear now? Haven't avoided any discussion with that one yet. Booooring....You'll "let" nothing. I will get the last word because I'm the only one offering any words. The only thing unfortunate is your attendance.
you forgot to mention how it teaches them the herd mentality early on to get them to " follow the leader " at school later on. i used to teach at a kindergarten and it was truly heart breaking to see what was happening there and see the kind of world they were being taught to live in i tried to help them and talk to their parents and all they could say was " but education is good" and all it was was slave training it really is sad
I have severe social phobia, and now I know why, or at least what helped to let it develope. At my first years of life I was put to many of these day cares, and I started to show symptoms of not liking the process (excessive crying that everybody ignored). My mom was just a workoholic, she was even ignoring her own problems that later turned out to be multiple sclerosis. Now she's completely disabled, and since I have not developed any natural bond with her, I don't feel sorry for her at all.
Do you know, you're quite right about kindergartens being disease reservoirs. When I was 5 years old i contracted a nasty double pneumonia and was rushed to the ER with respiratory arrest. As a result: almost 20 years of asthma.
Feminism and feminists prey on the narcissistic nature of Women, you'll never hear or read their argumentation involve the needs or desires of any other interested party outside of moneyed interests, namely Fathers and children.
They don't care about families ... thanks to immigration they can just import young adults to become tax slaves and not have to pay the costs to raise them to get there.
The very large La Leche League crew (millions of women who breastfed, have been aware of this research for decades)--I think our current problem with youth suicide stems from a heightened fragility from infantile abandonment.
Adoptees are an example of daycare we've had for decades, and adoptees have huge, huge psychological issues, which has also had an academic and media blackout. Institutionalized teens were running 45% adopted; only about 2% of the population are adopted.
The very large La Leche League crew (millions of women who breastfed, have been aware of this research for decades)--I think our current problem with youth suicide stems from a heightened fragility from infantile abandonment.
Adoptees are an example of daycare we've had for decades, and adoptees have huge, huge psychological issues, which has also had an academic and media blackout. Institutionalized teens were running 45% adopted; only about 2% of the population are adopted.
The all-time propaganda was "Mother-Infant Bonding: A scientific fiction"--that book, from a virtually unknown sociologist, got huge coverage in both the NYTimes and the WSJ.
Remember the studies of what happened to the baby chimps of female chimps who were themselves forced into cages as infants and only fed by bottles? Most of them killed their first infants.
Btw--without society providing the right to *alimony* which was just abandoned by tens of states just recently
@givebirthathome Yeah, and this is why is more civil socialist countries i.e.the ones who recognize the importance of mothers, and even fathers for that matter, staying home with children in the early developmental years is found to be vital for their abilities for communicating, bonding, and becoming a more 'socially conscious/minded' person when they get older. I can't remember now, but it seem like it was Sweden which gave both parents two years off, paid, when having a child. THIS is civil.
"Merely external emancipation has made of the modern woman an artificial being. Now, woman is confronted with the necessity of emancipating herself from emancipation, if she really desires to be free." - Emma Goldman
I always had the feeling that the 'greatest revolution ever known' was the norm... almost forever. But it was all poisoned by industry and exploitation.
The underlying problem is that our communities and families are broken up. Raising a child in the confinement and isolation of an apartment without the support of extended family, plus the financial pressures of one income just not being sufficient, this is all the result of our modern system. This situation and system is not favorable to staying at home with your kids. It has all been designed to split up the family.
I've never heard anyone talk about effect(s) of daycare on parents. In retrospect, I remember a general feeling of "shadowy confusion" in not knowing directly what happened to my child during the day. I wonder how this may have impacted my own state/behavior.
@mattsamudio I like that phrase "shadowy confusion," that is how I felt when I was a kid and dumped. Only mine confusion was a little more extreme and I sometimes refer to it as an "Auschwitzy" feeling.
Yes! I just listened to a radio report on schooling this afternoon on CBC, and never once did they mention the fact, the oh so basic fact, that the children in the bloody schools are given not a word of feedback, not even a token amount of say-so. When will children be treated as people?
Destroy the basic unit/cell of society(family) and the individuals of that unit are yours/ are now in the responsibility of the state to be shaped or modelled in the state's desired way.
And certain people are worried that a "New World Order" Is rising. Seems to me a NWO has been in effect for quite some time now and thanks to Real people like Stephan Molyneux who can actually think past the constant rhetoric of the dominating black out society, are lifting the veil of deception and, to people who will listen, the NWO will finally fall.
@mamobster1500 Well yes, detaching from a lot of things is important but it all starts at childhood. Whether a child has an addictive or detached personality will depend 90-95% on environmental influence. Genetics is there yes, but not as influential. If a parent was already practicing obstructive behavior while the child is wombed then its going to transfer those genetic imprints which the environment then has to trigger, which doesn't always occur because some kids grow up great people
@satinspringsarabian yeah maybe but I question that because a child's personality is largely due to environmental influences. So whether or not a child becomes ready to detach or gets too attached has to do with what the child goes through during his or her initial development.
@st3jace Ok so IMHO I think she will be fine since we are all in the same home all the time and she is cared for by me who she has known all her life. So she is never far away from the normal of what she knwos or with strangers ever.
It begins at birth. It's increasingly common for women to choose to have their babies cut out of their womb so they can escape the pain of a natural delivery and/or going into labor at a time which may be inconvenient. This means mother and baby miss out on an important dose of endorphins that stimulate bonding. Then we take baby home, stick it in a room on the other side of the house and feed it a synthetic liquid derived from a four legged animal, reducing the babies IQ and overall health.
@Vodouful Um...NO. The rise in C-sections had nothing to do with the mother's choice to get back to work. Doctors have baseball games to get to. They don't want to have to wait 13 hours for a delivery. Many spring "emergency" C-secions on women. What is the pregnant woman supposed to do? Disagree? She's hardly in a position to do that. There is a rise in C-sections because doctors are busy and tired of being sued.
@liliodine There are many reasons why there has been a rise in cesareans. What you are stating only part of the reason as well. You could also say it's because doctors can charge more money to perform cesareans or that it's harder to sue them is something goes wrong. If you read my comment, I never claimed my statement to be the only reason the number of cesareans performed are rising. I was speaking mainly on elective cesareans.
@Vodouful I did mention they're tired of getting sued. We have limited characters to work with here on youtube. Otherwise, I would have written more. I'm simply pointing out that not all mothers have that option. Pregnant women are extremely vulnerable. They don't always get to "choose".
@Vodouful Don't demonize women. Women are usually propagandized by their doctors to get a C-section. And since the 90's women have even started to be court-ordered to undergo them!
@givebirthathome I am not demonizing women. I'd like women to inform themselves and empower themselves. The birthing process is just the beginning of the societal pressures that a mother will face. Many people will try to pressure you into acting against your best interest. That's why it's imperative to think more, and believe less. The more you are informed and utilize critical thinking skills, the more difficult time others will have imposing their will on you.
@MrTruthUnleashed From wikipedia "The most commonly used infant formulas contain purified COW'S milk whey and casein as a protein source, a blend of vegetable oils as a fat source, lactose as a carbohydrate source, a vitamin-mineral mix, and other ingredients depending on the manufacturer."
Thanks for the video! So if parents are in touch (literally and figuratively) with their children, there is no need for (this amount) of mental institutions and legal and illegal drugs (expecially the ones, that calm you down and make you happy). Mothers in primitive tribes carry their children at their body most of the time until the children need more distance. It's highly ironic, that civilisations with human rights as a constitutional basis are so deeply unhuman.
Thanks for the video! So if parents are in touch (literally and figuratively) with their children, there is no need for (this amount) of mental institutions and legal and illegal drugs (expecially the ones, that calm you down and make you happy). Mothers in primitive tribes carry their children at their body most of the time until the children need more distance. It's highly ironic, that civilisations with human rights as a constitutional basis are so deeply unhuman.
Thanks for the video! So if parents are in touch (literally and figuratively) with their children, there is no need for (this amount) of mental institutions and legal and illegal drugs (expecially the ones, that calm you down and make you happy). Mothers in primitive tribes carry their children at their body most of the time until the children need more distance. It's highly ironic, that civilisations with human rights as a constitutional basis are so deeply unhuman.
Thanks for the video! So if parents are in touch (literally and figuratively) with their children, there is no need for (this amount) of mental institutions and legal and illegal drugs (expecially the ones, that calm you down and make you happy). Mothers in primitive tribes carry their children at their body most of the time until the children need more distance. It's highly ironic, that civilisations with human rights as a constitutional basis are so deeply unhuman.
My wife and I send our daughter to daycare for one day a week and then to a friend's house who has two kids another day a week. My daughter is always excited to go to daycare to play with her friends. I think that part-time daycare is healthy social interaction for a small child. I was sent to daycare 40+ hours a week when I was a kid and I always wanted to stay home so I get what you're saying about full-time daycare...
My mom only worked part time, and she had this idea of keeping us home whenever she could. All I remember is missing my friends. I see daycare, at least if you pick a good one, preferably a private, with only 2-4 children, as a great way of preparing your child for the social sphere, and how to handle conflicts. But I agree with much you said. Just know, that had the reports asked me, I would have wanted to be more out of the house...
There is NO SUCH THING as a working mother. If you are working , you are NOT a mother. People who send their kids off to be raised by strangers, (day care) are guilty of neglect. If you send them to public school they are guilty of abuse. If you are not going to stay home and raise them then don't have them if you are not going to take the responsibility to raise them.
Feminism was more of a "get women to work" movement than an equality movement, supported by the state. If the state can virtually double their tax base, why wouldn't they?
@jaybreak I see your point(from the point of view of the state that is). I personally dont care either way if the man or women goes to work, but if there are little kids to be raised its preferable, in my opinion if one of the parents stay home to nurture their children. I am against daycare if at all possible but realized that economics makes it difficult for the idea family to survive(referring to one parent broken homes with non participant dads or moms).
My mother was very close to & sacrificed an easier for me & my siblings, for that I'm now almost 23 & willing to give half of everything I would earn to her & more, unlike my father...Who was too "busy" with his friends.
Interesting to hear that so many people with social problems today attended daycare when they where young, so with the boom in daycare in the last 20 years, are we looking at an explosion of problems in the coming years and does it explain some of the current youth issues ???, just a thought
My wife out of work due to loosing her job because she had our daughter. She spent everyday with her, while I worked, She raised her into the smart lil 1 year old. Now that she has finally gotten a job a year n half later. It's very hard on both of them. But she goes to daycare with a family friend that works there twice a week. The rest of the time is still spent with mom, or grandma if needed, or me. I actually get to spend more time with her.
My parents noticed this no care by parents but 4 holidays a year game, could be quite devastating for the child’s life 30 years ago. My parents have quality observation skills.
Day care has been around for at least a generation, especially in Scandinavia and Germany..If this where all true, then why are we not all psychotic today?
@aristochat3 Well, when was the last time you observed people’s behavior with a unbiased eye? They enslaved them selfs in order to be able to buy even more boxes with a function, and vote for war, debts and a ski vacation. Didn’t you noticed how ill Europe’s people are? How well the pharmaceutical industry puts its products in the European pharmacies? A healthy mind is essential for a healthy life. Mothers are the basis to learn you about everything, if they learned it from theirs.
Oh yes,... those rows of chairs in that classroom! It reminds me of the "good" old days at elementary school when I wasn't allowed to question anything. I remember being yelled at because I asked why they forced me to write with my right hand when It never felt natural to do that, I am left handed you know! ... that was early 90's... not that long ago! ... Norwegian school though. I just wish that they asked just ONCE... "what makes you happy" ...
Society has simply not taken on the need to reorganise itself to take account of the fact that women have to work because across the western world but especially in America with no healthcare and local funding of schools, one parent simply does not make enough money to pay the mortgage, pay for health care etc. Try this experiment in your own city. Imagine you and your family living on say $400 a week take home pay. What neighbourhood is that? What school for your child? What health insurance?
Recovering from Attachment Disorder is a life-long journey. I still have to pay attention to myself and my behavior at all times. It was either escape or grow up. And so, I continue to grow up at 62.
So what are the effects of small infants who are taken care of by their Grandparents? My Daughter and her Daughter live with me and have since the birth of the baby who is under 1.
I have been in the childs life with her since she was born. I can no longer work so my daughter goes to work and I watch the baby she seems very happy and never gets upset when her Mother leaves, but is always happy and smiles when she returns.
@satinspringsarabians Well I feel that if your daughter trusts them and she is not there too long it is fine. Over 4 hours a day five days a week with virtual strangers and for the first 3 years. That is what he said. I think even if the Dad can as well
Everything has a cost, without proper plan/support, kids suffer.Major problems that we need to fix before anything gets better.
@katrastrophy I dont think you understood my question, I am the one taking care of the baby most of the time. Since she has known me since birth , do you feel there will be any problems of parent rejection ? The child is in her home all day around family that she sees from morning to night. Even if it is not her Mother because she works. I don't personaly see that my situation would cause any problems for the child.
@satinspringsarabians Took forever to find this comment btw. Let me clarify a bit, only so much can be understood in a limited context such as this platform.
I was a single parent the first 8 years of my son's life. He was born on my 20th b-day. Any child wants THEIR mother unless something else is happening such as abuse maybe, and I stress maybe. I have seen kids neglected and abused (or so the say) and they still have some love for their mother. (continued)VV
@katrastrophy in this day in age both parents work when present or more than parent (grandparent,aunt,friend) is closely involved in rearing. That is great , has been happening since kids happened I'd say with exception of Dad being present , that is new. We do what is 'right' or try and do right by the child and communicate to this little sponge in clear honest not babied down terms. My kid gets it, I was not perfect and had to juggle work/school . (continued)
@katrastrophy At the end of the day the child suffers. Now I am in a relationship and have been for years we have not moved , which I grew up a nomad having a single Mom myself, I understand. He is adapting and thriving in a two parent environment and he is so loved I wish you could just see it! It was hard to find someone so good as my honey but I did. And I thought one parent was good enough and it is , but two good parents is what to aim for.
@katrastrophy This is the ideal though , this is not btw. I wish there was a simple fix. Relationships are challenging , finding appropriate jobs to suit situation for raising a child etc..So I have seen comments about BNW and such and yes, I thought so and maybe this is how it starts, with questions like this or population control food rationing, martial law,quarantine...etc.
There are so many issues it makes the head spin in order to sort out order of priority. (cntD)
@katrastrophy People have to change into rational thinking and not be so damn selfish before any sort of big change happens.Period. That will not happen in my lifetime I promise.That is all for now.
It seems to be a "Stockholm syndrome" when it comes to work.. we who have never understood the isolation in the cubical world as a "normal" social interaction probably won't "feel" for the situation. I have had discussions with women who feel isolated thus took jobs for "satisfaction" & social purposes, to which me & some others may have bullied a touch asking, "do you actually hang out w/ the people you work with?" to which we answered NO.
Its like loving a prison but then hating your freedom.
[2] it seems that this is the problem of why my generation, the ones who I went to school with didn't breed. We'd seen what happens first hand to those children tossed into day care and realized if we were going to do that, we had to really do things right. 75% of my graduating class have no children. I am one of the few & I take this seriously.
I find it amusing how the left will mock the religious right for denying evolution but are so quick to deny the uncomfortable facts of nature when it clashes with their ideology. The uncomfortable fact being, evolution made it so that we are better off under our mothers care in the early years of development.
My personal opinion based on 20 years of parenting in this. Dedicated self sacrificing Moms are the noblest most vital underpinning of society. I went to school to gain general enough skills that I could take my family wherever we could afford to live on one income. We left California and raised our kids in flyover country and couldn't be happier with that decision. Personally I do value nor respect women(or men) who leave their children to pursue money and self fullfillment. Search their eyes
One of the most annoying things about meetup dot com is the fact that it has so many events for single stay at home moms to engage themselves in with other mothers. Maybe these isolated single moms should check out this website. I wish that it had more events for single men without being an atheist, gym freak or political activist for the red or blue nazi parties that are available.
Lovely video Stefan... Do you foresee any negatives in your daughter's development from being the stay-at-home parent? Your study cites the importance of a mother, but can the father assume that role instead?
@Andybaby I agree with you about the common sence part, however the fact remains the same children are being left in care of God only knows who, and some parents have no choice. I had to with my kids, single Mom raised both by myself. Why can Young Men in America grow up and take part in there children. Even when given the chance they perfer not to. That to is part of the problem not just the daycare issue.
Whoa, I meant it as a compliment; and lamenting that such eternal truths (as borne out by the studies) as 'kids should be raised by their parents', are going to be rejected by the brainwashed drones who seem to be the status quo in 2012.
@stefbot I have a similar request as MrFreeCookie: How would you address the issue of needing your kids to gain independence to avoid too much attachment or too little?
Everything has a time. And the time to have kids is not in the 30s. Time to get married is not in the 30s. It is in the teens and early 20s. That, and there is far too much focus on how the mom feels, not enough on what she is supposed to do for the child. This is residual effect of the focus on self that modern women maintain until they hear the tic-toc of biology. Again, this could be because of bad influences of the mother herself.. but someone needs to break the cycle.
dont feel like posting an essay here so ill shorten this down by quite a bit;
service economy...market forces in such an econ prefer women...moral objections to "what the children feel" is just that, an objection, and is meaningless. you can try and compete with the market and advertise your moral position but thats it.
rofllolzkek 6 days ago
@rofllolzkek You pretty much just said the market/goverment is more important than the family. Compete with the market?!?!? I realized that its necessary to keep a roof over the house...You really need to practice on how to give your point across. You give three statement in the first sentence that is pretty meaningless. Don't be winded and just say this. Give up, you are a small and insignificant person Stefbot, you can't change anything by telling parents to help there kids. Market owns you.
TheAdmiralofLife 1 day ago
@TheAdmiralofLife ..You reminded me of students in school talking about enconomic problems. Talking in numbers and forgetting human life and heart. A broken family,by competing in the 'market'. A poor struggling family is better by far...From my own personal experience. It doesn't matter what the children feel,ex cept that they're the next generation,and most of us are gonna be under there thumb in the mid turn of the century of our lives. You really need to think long term implication.
TheAdmiralofLife 1 day ago
@TheAdmiralofLife actually i totally agree with you. i was simply using stefs own ideological stance and, well, shoving it back in his face...lol. the way he attempts to weave moral philosophies into market theories basically is completely inconsistent. in fact
rofllolzkek 1 day ago
@rofllolzkek i was going to type more in that post but i just dont feel like arguing with people on the internet right now lol. anyways yes i agree.
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xenomorph1997 1 month ago
slaves work too much ... the work day should be under 8 hours.
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@mba2ceo That number is totally arbitrary.
shamgar001 1 week ago
Education is a scam ... slave offspring warehousing.
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Some need to work for necessity NOT greed. Be it either due to stupidity or NOT.
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very helpful.im an at home mom.. - i love the facts read here.. very good..informative!!!
onegreeneye 1 month ago
where can i find the sources?
dasdeck 1 month ago
@dasdeck Ikr, I wish he would link them. That would be nice
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Thank you! Excellent video! Stay with your children! Staying with my "precious treasured wonderful amazing child" and holding his "treasured golden disco ball fabulous heart" close to me everyday has been my top priority since he was born.
prettymama279 1 month ago
In non-anglo nations, we value the family. Whites value money. You have no culture (except the bits you steal) because the industrial revolution needed cogs not people. The nuclear family was the first step. I'll never truly join the nation I was born into, and neither will my descendants.
baalisgod666 2 months ago
Full time work is the enemy. Men used to work full time, but then women joined the workforce, and then surprise surprise, it then took two incomes to live, rather than the hours per person going down. I work part time and so does my "partner". We claim individuality and confound their laws. We will never pawn our child off to strangers. We don't pay tax because we are not part of the slave system and will not support it.
baalisgod666 2 months ago
I believe it is all down to how much money is coming into the household. If there is enough coming in to cover living costs it is bound to be better for children to have a happy and contented person at home caring for them and keeping house clean and tidy. Years ago women were encouraged to stay at home. Nowadays there is not seen a choice. Parents need support. Children need love and care and an opportunity for fun and play. I say pay the moms or dads to stay home.
Cardywhite111 2 months ago
Brave New World
mkklmann 2 months ago
5282, 336, 3
mkklmann 2 months ago
quality video stef, if only more people shared your view on this issue...
jondavidgriffin 2 months ago
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jondavidgriffin 2 months ago
I've done a lot with attachment theory, it's for real. The reason we homebirthed, the reason my baby was on my chest (dads) right after birth.
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What are the effects on the children...? What are the effects on the children of the father being gone all day? Fuck the idea that women have to stay home for the kids. Let the men stay home half the time.
juliecranford 2 months ago
@juliecranford But this is why I'd rather be a single parent. I'd just avoid stupid conflicts like this.
juliecranford 2 months ago
"What do the kids want? What's better for the children?" Huh? Since when the hell does a child know what's better for them? They'd never go to school, never brush their teeth, always eat junk food, etc...were it not for the "coercion" of the parents teaching them. Also, they need school to learn social skills so as not to grow up socially retarded thereby leading them to becoming attracted to fairy tale notions of Libertarianism. A person learns who they are through interactions with others.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 A lot of what you say is very true, but school, and parents threatening them (coercion) does not facilitate, but create mental gymnastics and a negative overture for making these things (that you pronounce).
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive "Coercion" doesn't have to be threatening. And I'm not really promoting threatening anyone. I'm also not for letting kids make the decisions. Of course one can manipulate things in such as way so that the kid thinks it was his own decision when it really wasn't. This can be coercion as well. Just slightly more sophisticated. Depends on how one wishes to define the term.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 Well tricking is a type of jousting I wouldn't engage with kids.....I've just always been 100% truthful to kids....and if you wanted to be it's very possible. You seem to disclaim that it's not when it most definitely is. It's very simple you just have to accept non-violence and treating kids on equal terms, regarding their informational stage. Like not teaching quantum mechanics to someone whose learning to tell time, but not tricking them but giving them a -
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
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@TheBookArchive @kropotkinbeard1 step there....like teachin ghtem how to count. There are ways, and science tells us they are better than all those previous things.
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive "Tricking" as you called it is done by every parent, no exceptions. And while it sounds nice to say that you've been 100% truthful to your kids all the time, I'm afraid that this itself is untruthful. Lots of studies to show how people do not tell the truth all the time. But if it makes you feel better, by all means. It's a admirable goal and endeavour. "Just have to accept non-violence"? I'm a lefty. What are you talking about? And, no, you do not treat kids on equal terms...
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive ...Children aren't intellectually developed enough to have an equal say on much of anything, as has already been pointed out. This VERY naive notion which seems to be prevalent within false-libertarianism sounds much like the very naive notions which Scientologists attempt to use with their little "adults". A parent IS whether we like or not, in a position of authority, and they should be. A responsible parent anyway. If you have ever used reverse psychology, then you've tricked.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 you treat kids on equal terms like you would any other human being with their capacities is what I meant. if you can lie, you can tell the truth. I've given you examples, you just seem stuck in the mud here, and pointing fingers, and generalizing my responses.....haven't seen any substance.
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive Well, then that's what you should have said. Don't blame me for your lack of clarification. And of course if you can lie you can tell the truth, though the Bush administration seemed to test that notion about as far as it could be tested. And I tell the truth to my kid about as much is humanly possible. Not sure where you're going with this or implying. Substance regarding what? Still no argument.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 step there....like teachin ghtem how to count. There are ways, and science tells us they are better than all those previous things.
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 so give me a situations where it isn't possible to reason/tell the truth, and tricking and coercion are the only ways (coercion...I'm assuming if ur compelling with force it's grabbing their hand, physically restraining them etc.....)....and don't forget if theyre about to run into a car that's your fault as a parent that you could have avoided sooner....
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive Oh, and it's always "possible" to tell the truth, perhaps, at least within the realm of possibilities which a priori include the un-truths I've already mentioned we all do all the time. And of course physically preventing them from running in front of cars is a not only reasonable example of compelling them not to do what they wished to do, it's the obviously moral thing to do, regardless of their age or ability to reason. Regarding an example, that's easy. Tell any kid that they
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 This is simple, if a kid don't know how to tie their shoe, and can't learn, you tie it for them and have them watch...etc...or you can make it interesting by incorporating cartoons, and watching cartoons, or making funny sound effects. If I can teach a two year old how to buckle...although it took about an hour, I could have easily lied, but I'm sure I can teach him the beginning's of anything. You're making this into a huge thing and aren't spooning me anything
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive As to your example, it's too vague. Depends on case by case. Why would not tying it for them and having them watch be fun? If they could learn from cartoons, great, though much less likely than on the job training. "I'm making this a big deal"? Huh? I'm doing nothing of the sort. There isn't even an issue here as far as I can see. I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to argue. What argument are you trying to make?
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive ..can't do X for reason Y, the actual reason, and they do it anyway. So, you give them reason Z, perhaps a lesser reason, perhaps completely false, or whatever, it's irrelevant, and yet this stops them from doing X. You can fill in the letters with just about anything depending on the intellectual development of the kid. As far as that goes it can be a fully, rational, functioning adult. Happens all the time.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 it isn't irrelevent becauyse I remember those lies today from my parents. And it hurt me when I could have learnt the truth. Alls I'm saying is if they can't understand, tell them of what they can understand. That's all. What you say is in supposition of this. If you don't want to lie you don't have to. You're saying it's impossible. I already gave you an example of how one could find it impossible and still get away with it.....you haven't responded to that.
TheBookArchive 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive I think we're talking about degrees of truth telling, age, and several other factors. There are most definitely ages and issues which a child could not possibly intellectually grasp the truth, and it would therefore be pointless to tell them. Hey, I'm not saying I think lying is good, and shouldn't be avoided whenever possible. I'm simply saying that white lies, lies by ommission, etc...are not always unreasonable. I'm against physically force, unless it's othe type you've ...
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive ...mentioned regarding stopping a kid from running into the street. Telling them what they can understand supports my position. When they can't understand you may have to tell them in a way which may not be factually accurate or even truthful, and this ommission or "alteration" doesn't necessarily have to be bad or cause some sort of lasting trauma. Regarding the impossibility of not lying, perhaps I wasn't being clear. I added this with regards to the fact that there have...
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive ..been many studies done which show that people lie all the time, much of time not even consciously, so wheather or not you choose to lie isn't always quite so cut and dry. I'm wasn't speaking of just sitting there and contemplating lying, weighing the possible impact the lie would have versus the telling of truth, etc...
"A growing body of research shows that people lie constantly, that deception is pervasive in everyday life. One study found that people tell....
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive "....two to three lies every 10 minutes, and even conservative estimates indicate that we lie at least once a day. Such incessant prevarication might be a necessary social evil, and researchers have recently discovered that some fibbing might actually be good for you."
health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/05/18/were-all-lying-liars-why-people-tell-lies-and-why-white-lies-can-be-ok
Not sure which example you're referring to that you gave
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@TheBookArchive I'm surprised that you don't seem to be able to think of an example yourself. You really can't?
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 god fucking help your future children if you don't already have some
MOONDOGGIESWTF 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Good response. Did you have an argument, or just wished to suck your thumb in public? I have a son and he's fine. I'm teaching him the benefits of social consciousness, how altruism is perhaps the highest form of human traits, not to mention biologically natural, how democracy is great and how that it's precisely due to democracy that any advances have been made in morality, how "greed is good" is for pricks, how the "invisible hand" has 5 broken fingers, etc...You know, just ..
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..the normal things dealing with rationality and reality that any caring person would teach their kid. Probably have him start readin Chomsky in a few years. Already wipes his butt with Ayn Rand, which is a good sign. I can keep going of you wish. I mean, if you're not going to make an argument I may as well try and help you. You teaching your kids that "taxes are theft" or something? Hahahahaha...Have you taught them that they "own themselves"? Hahahaha..."Coercion?" Haha /snore
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 I noticed on your self-indulgent laundry list of righteous ideas you're so generously imparting unto your child, thinking critically isn't one of them, quite the opposite in fact as you have every intention of shoving your own slimy ideological shaft down his throat. I would GLADLY debate you if only to give your son a 5 minute reprieve from this assault but sadly I can see I'm not the only one you've decided to troll here and frankly I just don't have the fucking stomach for it
MOONDOGGIESWTF 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Boring! That being said, righteous ideas are a bad thing? And your charge of not thinking critically is blather of which, as is to be expected, offer no evidence for. Critically thinking people would have thought of that first. Teaching my kids how to be a moral agent, recognize the fact that most all people are social creatures first and foremost, and that deviant notions to the contrary display uncritical thinking, perhaps a handicap, should be pitied or flushed, is good.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 only 1 direct response to you not 3. I don't want to get dragged into the mud by someone who thinks "'it's precisely due to democracy that any advances have been made in morality". World wars, Iraq, Afghanistan, multiple wars and engagements and occupations, drug wars, poor robbed by inflation all perpetrated by democracies around the world; quite the high price to pay for "advances in morality".
MOONDOGGIESWTF 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF So the other responses were more or less worthless wastes of time, say, trolling? You're already in the mud and it seems to be slowing you waaaay down. Regarding your nonsensical claims about democracies causing world wars, etc...I must simply laugh. Nothing you've mentioned were due to democracy. Most were rather movements away from democracy. That being said, not sure what "democracies" you believe have participated in these atrocities. You sound more like you're referring to
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..the U.S. Most every action the U.S. has taken has been a demonstration of a lack of democracy in action. Not sure what planet you've been living on. But assuming that you were referring to the U.S., yes, I would agree that it has participated in these things, all of them which I and most of the left have always opposed, as most all history shows. The problem is that it gets involved in these things precisely by shunning democracy as most folks wanted none of it. Well, who...
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ...does want this stuff to keep going on and on? Not the population. Private tyrannies who are benefiting from the "racket of war" as Gen. Smedley Butler was talking about decades ago. A LACK of democracy has been the problem. Most democratically-minded rational people do not want war. Well, what's the problem? That being said, advances in racism, sexism, minority rights, and just about every other moral thing has come about due to democratic thinking. No exceptions.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF You have nothing to offer by way of debate as you've already made clear. This is your, what, third of more response and you've done nothig yet except project. And the "trolling" babble is predictable as well. Any time one has nothing to offer they usually pull out the "trolling" crap. Boring, predictable...But if you have any evidence, for once, please present it. Otherwise go teach your kid how "altruism is evil" while my kid prepares to be his therapist. You have no guts. Yes.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 you admonish me for not providing evidence for what? a factual observation that of the most important things you thought I should know you were teaching your kid, critical thinking was not explicitly one of them yet indoctrination of certain ideologies fetishizing democracy was. all the while making grand assertions, by my standards, some reasonable some not without any evidence AND baselessly implying that I would teach my child altruism is evil, greed is good etc
MOONDOGGIESWTF 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF I admonish you for coming here and whining and not providing evidence for any assertion you've thus far made, be it trolling, critical thinking, etc...All nonsense. "Fetishizing democracy"? Haha...How does one do that? Discuss the basics of the morality of it? No need. Critical thinking people are already aware of this. You're still babbling and not saying anything. You're making no arguments, and have presented no evidence to support your assertions. Regarding what you might...
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ...teach your child, well, since you're not saying anything, I'm left to guess. That being said, I DO hope my baseless implication that you would teach your child the Randian deviant notion of altruism being evil is incorrect. I would be more impressed if you just tried making an argument, even once.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@kropotkinbeard1 just stop. it's embarrassing really. From the start I've said I'm not interested in debating / arguing / discussing / unpacking my ideas with you, yet you've proceeded to type out response after response. a youtube comment section may be where you like to stimulate yourself intellectually, that much is at least vindicated by the quality and naivete of your positions. i'll let your ego get the inevitable last word it so hungrily desires in this unfortunate exchange. proceed
MOONDOGGIESWTF 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF Yes, it is embarrassing. I keep asking you make an argument, provie evidence to support any of your assertions, etc...and still nothing. That you're not yet embarrassed really is embarrassing. I sort of feel like I do just about every time any of the GOP open their traps just waiting to see what next piece of flotsam leaks out. And if you're not interested in debating, etc...then shut the hell up and go away, and quit trolling. See, THIS is an example of trolling.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF And that I've typed out responses demonstrates that I'm the only one doing anything here. You really should stop now before your hole gets as deep as Rand's did nearing the end of her miserable and worthless life. And I'm more than happy to "stimulate myself" if there's no one else around to engage. No problem at all. So, this is now what, the 5th comment you've left saying exactly nothing? You're funny. And, again, you made an assertion regarding the supposed "naivete of my..
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
@MOONDOGGIESWTF ..opinions" without giving a single word of evidence. You have nothing, and if you did you'd STFU and attempt an argument of some sort. My hunch is that you're avoiding doing this very thing by discussing nothing in every comment. Want to talk about the color of my underwear now? Haven't avoided any discussion with that one yet. Booooring....You'll "let" nothing. I will get the last word because I'm the only one offering any words. The only thing unfortunate is your attendance.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
So f**king true !
Kids are treated like cats in our "society"
spystyle 2 months ago
you forgot to mention how it teaches them the herd mentality early on to get them to " follow the leader " at school later on. i used to teach at a kindergarten and it was truly heart breaking to see what was happening there and see the kind of world they were being taught to live in i tried to help them and talk to their parents and all they could say was " but education is good" and all it was was slave training it really is sad
whiterchocolate 2 months ago
I have severe social phobia, and now I know why, or at least what helped to let it develope. At my first years of life I was put to many of these day cares, and I started to show symptoms of not liking the process (excessive crying that everybody ignored). My mom was just a workoholic, she was even ignoring her own problems that later turned out to be multiple sclerosis. Now she's completely disabled, and since I have not developed any natural bond with her, I don't feel sorry for her at all.
phenomenontheatre 2 months ago
Do you know, you're quite right about kindergartens being disease reservoirs. When I was 5 years old i contracted a nasty double pneumonia and was rushed to the ER with respiratory arrest. As a result: almost 20 years of asthma.
The1stArtist 2 months ago
@The1stArtist I also had a pneumonia, also as a 5 years old, and have now heart problems at only 19 years.
marketanarchist2011 2 months ago
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@The1stArtist I also had a pneumonia, also as a 5 years old, and have now heart problems at only 19 years.
marketanarchist2011 2 months ago
Feminism and feminists prey on the narcissistic nature of Women, you'll never hear or read their argumentation involve the needs or desires of any other interested party outside of moneyed interests, namely Fathers and children.
MaxSachs 2 months ago
They don't care about families ... thanks to immigration they can just import young adults to become tax slaves and not have to pay the costs to raise them to get there.
polarbeach 2 months ago
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The very large La Leche League crew (millions of women who breastfed, have been aware of this research for decades)--I think our current problem with youth suicide stems from a heightened fragility from infantile abandonment.
Adoptees are an example of daycare we've had for decades, and adoptees have huge, huge psychological issues, which has also had an academic and media blackout. Institutionalized teens were running 45% adopted; only about 2% of the population are adopted.
givebirthathome 2 months ago
The very large La Leche League crew (millions of women who breastfed, have been aware of this research for decades)--I think our current problem with youth suicide stems from a heightened fragility from infantile abandonment.
Adoptees are an example of daycare we've had for decades, and adoptees have huge, huge psychological issues, which has also had an academic and media blackout. Institutionalized teens were running 45% adopted; only about 2% of the population are adopted.
givebirthathome 2 months ago
The all-time propaganda was "Mother-Infant Bonding: A scientific fiction"--that book, from a virtually unknown sociologist, got huge coverage in both the NYTimes and the WSJ.
Remember the studies of what happened to the baby chimps of female chimps who were themselves forced into cages as infants and only fed by bottles? Most of them killed their first infants.
Btw--without society providing the right to *alimony* which was just abandoned by tens of states just recently
givebirthathome 2 months ago
@givebirthathome mothers cannot afford the afford the economic risk of at-home parenting.
givebirthathome 2 months ago
I was an at-home mom, and absolutely the kids with the at-home moms (or dads, or tag-teams) were doing better emotionally than the daycare kids.
givebirthathome 2 months ago 7
@givebirthathome Yeah, and this is why is more civil socialist countries i.e.the ones who recognize the importance of mothers, and even fathers for that matter, staying home with children in the early developmental years is found to be vital for their abilities for communicating, bonding, and becoming a more 'socially conscious/minded' person when they get older. I can't remember now, but it seem like it was Sweden which gave both parents two years off, paid, when having a child. THIS is civil.
kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
"Merely external emancipation has made of the modern woman an artificial being. Now, woman is confronted with the necessity of emancipating herself from emancipation, if she really desires to be free." - Emma Goldman
Seshat420 2 months ago
I always had the feeling that the 'greatest revolution ever known' was the norm... almost forever. But it was all poisoned by industry and exploitation.
McPrfctday 2 months ago
I am so happy that I took every moment I could to stay home with my kids.
All this does is reinforce my own experience that they were doing MUCH better than the kids stuck in daycare.
CurtHowland 2 months ago
"Oh but we have to have children," I have heard women say...."its our duty!"
UNIVERSITYHI 2 months ago
The underlying problem is that our communities and families are broken up. Raising a child in the confinement and isolation of an apartment without the support of extended family, plus the financial pressures of one income just not being sufficient, this is all the result of our modern system. This situation and system is not favorable to staying at home with your kids. It has all been designed to split up the family.
thetruthergirls 2 months ago
Nice 1 Stef, yes we have created a very strange world indeed...where people take pride in paying their bills on time...what will our headstones read?
RIP JOHN SMITH
PAID ON TIME
jamesjjjspike 2 months ago
Is there a thread about this on the boards?
ryanswan0 2 months ago
yes our subjection to the divide and conquer mentality of the elite begins from birth – psychopaths training psychopaths.
ehpl 2 months ago
I've never heard anyone talk about effect(s) of daycare on parents. In retrospect, I remember a general feeling of "shadowy confusion" in not knowing directly what happened to my child during the day. I wonder how this may have impacted my own state/behavior.
mattsamudio 2 months ago
@mattsamudio I like that phrase "shadowy confusion," that is how I felt when I was a kid and dumped. Only mine confusion was a little more extreme and I sometimes refer to it as an "Auschwitzy" feeling.
UNIVERSITYHI 2 months ago
thank you, thank you, thank you! proud stay at home mom here.
thisismorli 2 months ago 10
What effect do you think sending young kids to school for so many hours a day has regarding this issue?
sharperguy 2 months ago
Yes! I just listened to a radio report on schooling this afternoon on CBC, and never once did they mention the fact, the oh so basic fact, that the children in the bloody schools are given not a word of feedback, not even a token amount of say-so. When will children be treated as people?
not2tees 2 months ago 4
Why does Rick Ross list this guy as some kind of cult leader? Did he criticize Israel or something?
marcus3379 2 months ago
you forgot to put the link to it.
Robinsonero 2 months ago
Destroy the basic unit/cell of society(family) and the individuals of that unit are yours/ are now in the responsibility of the state to be shaped or modelled in the state's desired way.
SuperFloyd187 2 months ago 2
Why cant you be the president of USA? You should atleast be advising heads of state on all countries.
Instead of religious wankers who seem to be doing the "advising" now.
bary1234 2 months ago
@bary1234 You can't turn the mafia into a virtous organization.
MrTruthUnleashed 2 months ago
@MrTruthUnleashed We should atleast try to overthrow the mafia.
bary1234 2 months ago
And certain people are worried that a "New World Order" Is rising. Seems to me a NWO has been in effect for quite some time now and thanks to Real people like Stephan Molyneux who can actually think past the constant rhetoric of the dominating black out society, are lifting the veil of deception and, to people who will listen, the NWO will finally fall.
Spencerianism 2 months ago
@mamobster1500 Well yes, detaching from a lot of things is important but it all starts at childhood. Whether a child has an addictive or detached personality will depend 90-95% on environmental influence. Genetics is there yes, but not as influential. If a parent was already practicing obstructive behavior while the child is wombed then its going to transfer those genetic imprints which the environment then has to trigger, which doesn't always occur because some kids grow up great people
st3jace 2 months ago
@satinspringsarabian yeah maybe but I question that because a child's personality is largely due to environmental influences. So whether or not a child becomes ready to detach or gets too attached has to do with what the child goes through during his or her initial development.
st3jace 2 months ago
@st3jace Ok so IMHO I think she will be fine since we are all in the same home all the time and she is cared for by me who she has known all her life. So she is never far away from the normal of what she knwos or with strangers ever.
satinspringsarabians 2 months ago
It begins at birth. It's increasingly common for women to choose to have their babies cut out of their womb so they can escape the pain of a natural delivery and/or going into labor at a time which may be inconvenient. This means mother and baby miss out on an important dose of endorphins that stimulate bonding. Then we take baby home, stick it in a room on the other side of the house and feed it a synthetic liquid derived from a four legged animal, reducing the babies IQ and overall health.
Vodouful 2 months ago 20
@Vodouful Um...NO. The rise in C-sections had nothing to do with the mother's choice to get back to work. Doctors have baseball games to get to. They don't want to have to wait 13 hours for a delivery. Many spring "emergency" C-secions on women. What is the pregnant woman supposed to do? Disagree? She's hardly in a position to do that. There is a rise in C-sections because doctors are busy and tired of being sued.
liliodine 2 months ago
@liliodine There are many reasons why there has been a rise in cesareans. What you are stating only part of the reason as well. You could also say it's because doctors can charge more money to perform cesareans or that it's harder to sue them is something goes wrong. If you read my comment, I never claimed my statement to be the only reason the number of cesareans performed are rising. I was speaking mainly on elective cesareans.
Vodouful 2 months ago
@Vodouful I did mention they're tired of getting sued. We have limited characters to work with here on youtube. Otherwise, I would have written more. I'm simply pointing out that not all mothers have that option. Pregnant women are extremely vulnerable. They don't always get to "choose".
liliodine 2 months ago
@liliodine I told vodouful the same thing..
givebirthathome 2 months ago
@Vodouful Don't demonize women. Women are usually propagandized by their doctors to get a C-section. And since the 90's women have even started to be court-ordered to undergo them!
givebirthathome 2 months ago
@givebirthathome I am not demonizing women. I'd like women to inform themselves and empower themselves. The birthing process is just the beginning of the societal pressures that a mother will face. Many people will try to pressure you into acting against your best interest. That's why it's imperative to think more, and believe less. The more you are informed and utilize critical thinking skills, the more difficult time others will have imposing their will on you.
Vodouful 2 months ago
@Vodouful That's wrong, powdered milk is manufactured in factories.
MrTruthUnleashed 2 months ago
@MrTruthUnleashed From wikipedia "The most commonly used infant formulas contain purified COW'S milk whey and casein as a protein source, a blend of vegetable oils as a fat source, lactose as a carbohydrate source, a vitamin-mineral mix, and other ingredients depending on the manufacturer."
Vodouful 2 months ago
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MagasVolar 2 months ago
Thanks for the video! So if parents are in touch (literally and figuratively) with their children, there is no need for (this amount) of mental institutions and legal and illegal drugs (expecially the ones, that calm you down and make you happy). Mothers in primitive tribes carry their children at their body most of the time until the children need more distance. It's highly ironic, that civilisations with human rights as a constitutional basis are so deeply unhuman.
MagasVolar 2 months ago 2
Yes, freaking yes.
dronexmail 2 months ago
Stef aren't you glad they can't sling: "Well if YOU were a parent you would understand," at you anymore? I swear so many trolls, trolls everywhere
twistedbydsign99 2 months ago
I'm a stay at home dad too, and couldn't agree more. :)
atwell8 2 months ago 3
My wife and I send our daughter to daycare for one day a week and then to a friend's house who has two kids another day a week. My daughter is always excited to go to daycare to play with her friends. I think that part-time daycare is healthy social interaction for a small child. I was sent to daycare 40+ hours a week when I was a kid and I always wanted to stay home so I get what you're saying about full-time daycare...
kevingienapp 2 months ago
why would someone dislike this...what could be the reason?
degauss22ro1 2 months ago
@degauss22ro1
Trolls...they really do exist.
helltrackrider 2 months ago
@helltrackrider Don't feed them!
rafaelalis 2 months ago
My mom only worked part time, and she had this idea of keeping us home whenever she could. All I remember is missing my friends. I see daycare, at least if you pick a good one, preferably a private, with only 2-4 children, as a great way of preparing your child for the social sphere, and how to handle conflicts. But I agree with much you said. Just know, that had the reports asked me, I would have wanted to be more out of the house...
HKragh 2 months ago
Children would prefer and be happier with their daddies at home.
Guess everyone just needs to vacate the workforce, save for the childless.
sweetturnedsour77 2 months ago
There is NO SUCH THING as a working mother. If you are working , you are NOT a mother. People who send their kids off to be raised by strangers, (day care) are guilty of neglect. If you send them to public school they are guilty of abuse. If you are not going to stay home and raise them then don't have them if you are not going to take the responsibility to raise them.
JobsAreSlavery 2 months ago
Feminism was more of a "get women to work" movement than an equality movement, supported by the state. If the state can virtually double their tax base, why wouldn't they?
jaybreak 2 months ago 33
@jaybreak I have to agree. It's so stressful on the family, too. Child care is outrageously expensive. Basically just spinning your wheels.
liliodine 2 months ago
@jaybreak I see your point(from the point of view of the state that is). I personally dont care either way if the man or women goes to work, but if there are little kids to be raised its preferable, in my opinion if one of the parents stay home to nurture their children. I am against daycare if at all possible but realized that economics makes it difficult for the idea family to survive(referring to one parent broken homes with non participant dads or moms).
charronfamilyconnect 2 months ago
i like what you say, sometimes, but i disagree with this, ENTIRELY.
34lbs 2 months ago
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thaiQ1985 2 months ago
My mother was very close to & sacrificed an easier for me & my siblings, for that I'm now almost 23 & willing to give half of everything I would earn to her & more, unlike my father...Who was too "busy" with his friends.
almulla 2 months ago
Interesting to hear that so many people with social problems today attended daycare when they where young, so with the boom in daycare in the last 20 years, are we looking at an explosion of problems in the coming years and does it explain some of the current youth issues ???, just a thought
eyeswideopennimrod 2 months ago
I can't watch these videos anymore
erdal0 2 months ago
My wife out of work due to loosing her job because she had our daughter. She spent everyday with her, while I worked, She raised her into the smart lil 1 year old. Now that she has finally gotten a job a year n half later. It's very hard on both of them. But she goes to daycare with a family friend that works there twice a week. The rest of the time is still spent with mom, or grandma if needed, or me. I actually get to spend more time with her.
Biosynthnut 2 months ago
My parents noticed this no care by parents but 4 holidays a year game, could be quite devastating for the child’s life 30 years ago. My parents have quality observation skills.
TerrierBram 2 months ago
Day care has been around for at least a generation, especially in Scandinavia and Germany..If this where all true, then why are we not all psychotic today?
aristochat3 2 months ago
@aristochat3 It is not the mark of an insane society to recognize its own insanity.
N7a7v7i 2 months ago
@aristochat3 Well, when was the last time you observed people’s behavior with a unbiased eye? They enslaved them selfs in order to be able to buy even more boxes with a function, and vote for war, debts and a ski vacation. Didn’t you noticed how ill Europe’s people are? How well the pharmaceutical industry puts its products in the European pharmacies? A healthy mind is essential for a healthy life. Mothers are the basis to learn you about everything, if they learned it from theirs.
TerrierBram 2 months ago
Oh yes,... those rows of chairs in that classroom! It reminds me of the "good" old days at elementary school when I wasn't allowed to question anything. I remember being yelled at because I asked why they forced me to write with my right hand when It never felt natural to do that, I am left handed you know! ... that was early 90's... not that long ago! ... Norwegian school though. I just wish that they asked just ONCE... "what makes you happy" ...
geostigma123 2 months ago
Society has simply not taken on the need to reorganise itself to take account of the fact that women have to work because across the western world but especially in America with no healthcare and local funding of schools, one parent simply does not make enough money to pay the mortgage, pay for health care etc. Try this experiment in your own city. Imagine you and your family living on say $400 a week take home pay. What neighbourhood is that? What school for your child? What health insurance?
CobinRain 2 months ago
Recovering from Attachment Disorder is a life-long journey. I still have to pay attention to myself and my behavior at all times. It was either escape or grow up. And so, I continue to grow up at 62.
TheRushMethod 2 months ago
what about those who are clingy in relationships
humantestdummy 2 months ago
Man this made me remember the first day my mom unexpectedly dropped me off for per-school. It was devastating. Absolutely terrifying.
Fetchdafish 2 months ago
So what are the effects of small infants who are taken care of by their Grandparents? My Daughter and her Daughter live with me and have since the birth of the baby who is under 1.
I have been in the childs life with her since she was born. I can no longer work so my daughter goes to work and I watch the baby she seems very happy and never gets upset when her Mother leaves, but is always happy and smiles when she returns.
satinspringsarabians 2 months ago
@satinspringsarabians Well I feel that if your daughter trusts them and she is not there too long it is fine. Over 4 hours a day five days a week with virtual strangers and for the first 3 years. That is what he said. I think even if the Dad can as well
Everything has a cost, without proper plan/support, kids suffer.Major problems that we need to fix before anything gets better.
What a bout the children?
katrastrophy 2 months ago
@katrastrophy I dont think you understood my question, I am the one taking care of the baby most of the time. Since she has known me since birth , do you feel there will be any problems of parent rejection ? The child is in her home all day around family that she sees from morning to night. Even if it is not her Mother because she works. I don't personaly see that my situation would cause any problems for the child.
satinspringsarabians 2 months ago
@satinspringsarabians Took forever to find this comment btw. Let me clarify a bit, only so much can be understood in a limited context such as this platform.
I was a single parent the first 8 years of my son's life. He was born on my 20th b-day. Any child wants THEIR mother unless something else is happening such as abuse maybe, and I stress maybe. I have seen kids neglected and abused (or so the say) and they still have some love for their mother. (continued)VV
katrastrophy 1 month ago
@katrastrophy in this day in age both parents work when present or more than parent (grandparent,aunt,friend) is closely involved in rearing. That is great , has been happening since kids happened I'd say with exception of Dad being present , that is new. We do what is 'right' or try and do right by the child and communicate to this little sponge in clear honest not babied down terms. My kid gets it, I was not perfect and had to juggle work/school . (continued)
katrastrophy 1 month ago
@katrastrophy At the end of the day the child suffers. Now I am in a relationship and have been for years we have not moved , which I grew up a nomad having a single Mom myself, I understand. He is adapting and thriving in a two parent environment and he is so loved I wish you could just see it! It was hard to find someone so good as my honey but I did. And I thought one parent was good enough and it is , but two good parents is what to aim for.
katrastrophy 1 month ago
@katrastrophy This is the ideal though , this is not btw. I wish there was a simple fix. Relationships are challenging , finding appropriate jobs to suit situation for raising a child etc..So I have seen comments about BNW and such and yes, I thought so and maybe this is how it starts, with questions like this or population control food rationing, martial law,quarantine...etc.
There are so many issues it makes the head spin in order to sort out order of priority. (cntD)
katrastrophy 1 month ago
@katrastrophy People have to change into rational thinking and not be so damn selfish before any sort of big change happens.Period. That will not happen in my lifetime I promise.That is all for now.
katrastrophy 1 month ago
It seems to be a "Stockholm syndrome" when it comes to work.. we who have never understood the isolation in the cubical world as a "normal" social interaction probably won't "feel" for the situation. I have had discussions with women who feel isolated thus took jobs for "satisfaction" & social purposes, to which me & some others may have bullied a touch asking, "do you actually hang out w/ the people you work with?" to which we answered NO.
Its like loving a prison but then hating your freedom.
AlterEgoTrip 2 months ago
[2] it seems that this is the problem of why my generation, the ones who I went to school with didn't breed. We'd seen what happens first hand to those children tossed into day care and realized if we were going to do that, we had to really do things right. 75% of my graduating class have no children. I am one of the few & I take this seriously.
Day school is horrible & not an option.
AlterEgoTrip 2 months ago
I find it amusing how the left will mock the religious right for denying evolution but are so quick to deny the uncomfortable facts of nature when it clashes with their ideology. The uncomfortable fact being, evolution made it so that we are better off under our mothers care in the early years of development.
rrp1973 2 months ago
My personal opinion based on 20 years of parenting in this. Dedicated self sacrificing Moms are the noblest most vital underpinning of society. I went to school to gain general enough skills that I could take my family wherever we could afford to live on one income. We left California and raised our kids in flyover country and couldn't be happier with that decision. Personally I do value nor respect women(or men) who leave their children to pursue money and self fullfillment. Search their eyes
myeyepie 2 months ago 2
One of the most annoying things about meetup dot com is the fact that it has so many events for single stay at home moms to engage themselves in with other mothers. Maybe these isolated single moms should check out this website. I wish that it had more events for single men without being an atheist, gym freak or political activist for the red or blue nazi parties that are available.
rayme4raw 2 months ago
Lovely video Stefan... Do you foresee any negatives in your daughter's development from being the stay-at-home parent? Your study cites the importance of a mother, but can the father assume that role instead?
fumanchu1k 2 months ago 2
"War against the family"?? You're just a Christian right-wing-- oh, wait.
GrantValdes 2 months ago
Where is said link below? I only see the fdr link.
MaximusJacobus 2 months ago
26 minutes of relentless common sense.
Andybaby 2 months ago
@Andybaby I agree with you about the common sence part, however the fact remains the same children are being left in care of God only knows who, and some parents have no choice. I had to with my kids, single Mom raised both by myself. Why can Young Men in America grow up and take part in there children. Even when given the chance they perfer not to. That to is part of the problem not just the daycare issue.
satinspringsarabians 2 months ago
@satinspringsarabians
Whoa, I meant it as a compliment; and lamenting that such eternal truths (as borne out by the studies) as 'kids should be raised by their parents', are going to be rejected by the brainwashed drones who seem to be the status quo in 2012.
Andybaby 2 months ago
@stefbot I have a similar request as MrFreeCookie: How would you address the issue of needing your kids to gain independence to avoid too much attachment or too little?
st3jace 2 months ago
@st3jace good question , maybe it all depends on the childs own personality and if he or she is ready. Not all kids grow the same.
satinspringsarabians 2 months ago
Everything has a time. And the time to have kids is not in the 30s. Time to get married is not in the 30s. It is in the teens and early 20s. That, and there is far too much focus on how the mom feels, not enough on what she is supposed to do for the child. This is residual effect of the focus on self that modern women maintain until they hear the tic-toc of biology. Again, this could be because of bad influences of the mother herself.. but someone needs to break the cycle.
utubehayter 2 months ago