Jim Furyk golf swing explanation

[pali290794]

Thath mess doesnt have explanations... just kidding jim furyk is a great golfer

[remmy100]

its beating a dead horse but those ball flight laws aren't quite right. Heck u can do this in ur own home. take a putter and hit a ball with a square club face but also an exaggerated in/out or out/in path. Guarantee you the ball will always start straight. The ball starts roughly in the direction of club face. Ball finishes with direction of swing plane in relation to club face.

[mcgroogtube]

Love ay Jimmy!!

[seanaudi13]

Wow. I can't watch that. I have a decetn gofl swing at seeing that messes with my head. I've actually played gofl with Jim a couple times. His folks used to live/play golf where I grew up. It looks even stranger in person. He's pretty damn good though. GL in the FedEx this year Jim.

[Gyro911]

Believe it or not his swing is most similar to what a lot of golf instructer teach on the back swing which is to to keep the hands inline with the head and not wind up to far behind. Doing a more vertical backswing improves your chances on hitting the ball as the angle comes straight down on the ball rather then side ways

[MultiCocoNutz]

i have his swing, with a natural draw. i completely agree about what hes sayin though.

[jumister5889]

way old ballflight laws...

ball starts out roughly 80/20 face/path and then curves based on the face's relationship to the path.

face 1* open to a path 1* out to in, that balls probably going to start off straight, maybe slightly left, then curve right.

face 1* open to a path 5* in to out is going to start off roughly 6* to the right then cut right. face square to TARGET on path 5* in to out is probably going to start just slightly right and then draw.

[19daedalus88]

@jumister5889

I agree with your statement of the 'newer' ballflight laws. However, your examples seem contradictory. The first one should start off slightly right then curve right. The second one should start out about 2* right then curve to the LEFT. I think the third example is correct. The 2nd and 3rd examples should have a similar result except different take off directions and more curve in the 3rd place...yet you say a completely different shot shape occurs. Am I wrong?..

[andypatnou]

He got the ballflight laws wrong...

[cockywatchman1976]

Yes-he said right to left is closed-incorrect answer Jim!

He got the left to right spin correct

[f0cusen]

@andypatnou yeaahh this was probably a long time ago and when he said this we all thought the face what responsible for the curve and the clubface determined where the ball started.

[maginick24]

@andypatnou No he didn't. Swingpath determines the start, clubface determines the end.

[crankdatYouNoMe]

Dude i love you backswing!!

[bogeyhitter25]

He goes about as straight up as you can on the backswing, and drives his right elbow right into his right hip and through the ball.

His swing isn't really that unconvential.

[dionphaneufrules]

that acutally makes sense what he said because most pros on tour don't cut across the ball to hit a fade. They always hit to the outside, but with a draw the clubface is square at impact and when hitting a fade its a little bit open. Though as u guys have said u can create a hook with the clubface open, thats way many players who plays a cut, miss is left. The swing path has a lot to do yes, but so does how the clubface is at impact.

[gman0674]

Gotta say I thing Jim's wrong about ball flight. It's the swing path that determines whether it draws or fades and the club face determines where the ball starts. I draw the ball but my clubface is 2 degrees open at impact.

[piguif]

maybe u have a crooked as golf swing

[gman0674]

No not really, it's on my channel why dont you judge for yourself?

[piguif]

whats ur handicap

[igusving]

He says that the swingpath determines were the ball starts i.e. push/pull and the club face angel determines the sidespin i.e. fade/draw

so if you swing the club inside-out 6° and your club face is 2° open (compared to the target) the club face is still 4° closed compared the swingpath.

The shot will probebly be a push-draw

correct me if i'm wrong

/swedish PGA pro

[Uhuso]

@gman0674 You are right, what he says is exactly the opposite as the way it actually works. If you hit the ball with the face closed, the ball is gonna go left no matter your swing path.

[cockywatchman1976]

Thats true-yours is new thinking. Jim's is the old style thinking. But if you maintained the same swing path and openened more than the 2 degrees ud cut it. guess its a mixture and not as simple as Jim's laws!!! Haha, I gotta get out more

[elnocho3]

@cockywatchman1976 - Exactly right

[footjoyclassic]

Yes, as a matter of fact you would, not with an out to in, but an in to out swing. The face would be open to the target line but closed to the path. The ball would start out right since the face is aimed to the right at impact and as a result of the face being closed to the path, it would draw back to the target. Any player that starts the ball to the right and draws it back is doing this with an open face to the target.

[andysh1]

let's see you demonstrate that footjoy, hopefully you'll hit yourself in the balls with your club head and save us all the job of doing it for you

[footjoyclassic]

Would be glad to demonstrate, with any club, all you have to do is watch Steve Elkington, his club face is open about 3 to 4 degrees at impact, and he draws every shot. One can not prove it without the aid of a high speed camera. Watch Disc 3 (Analyzing your shot) of the Stack and tilt dvds and you will get your answer. Please stay away from my testicles!!!

[andysh1]

only joking, but seriously, to draw a ball with an open club face you would have to attack the ball from an extreme inside angle (further to the right than the club face) but the ball would still end up to the right (where the club face is aimed at impact). clubhead path determines where the ball starts because the backspin rate overpowers the side spin rate. you simply cannot put more side spin on than back spin, this explains why the ball curves more with a driver than a wedge(less backspin)

[footjoyclassic]

You are getting closer, you almost understand b/c you said to draw a ball with an open club face you would have to attack the ball from an extreme inside angle. Not so extreme, If the face is open 2 degrees and you are swinging 4 degrees to the right of the path, you are now hitting a draw with an open clubface. It is that simple,

[footjoyclassic]

Now, open your putter face 10 degrees to the target line and make a stroke down the target line keeping the putter open 10 degrees, the ball will start exactly 10 degrees to the right, not down the path as you believe. No matter what the swing path, or what club, the ball will always start out where the clubface is aimed. Try this before you respond please, with any club.

[andysh1]

there is no backspin with a putter, or any other club that you wish to hit along the ground with little clubhead speed, friction will put a stop to backspin but NOT sidespin and that is not a good comparision to a full golf shot.

[footjoyclassic]

I am just making a point that the ball starts out where the clubface is aimed, no matter if it is a putter or a driver. Once the ball has started on this path the spin will take over and move the ball left, right, up or down. The spin is a result of the path. Furyk said the path determines where the ball starts out and that is 100% not true, the clubface determines where the ball starts out. Like I said, watch the stack and tilt dvd, they spend alot of time defining this. Best wishes.

[andysh1]

and that's why a tennis player can hit 100mph+ serves with a tennis racket that's pointing 70 degrees to the left of target is it? or shane warne bowling a cricket ball with his hand 90 degrees right of his target? or david beckhams closed foot bending a football around the wall into the goal? it's basic physics and i'm guessing that you can't shape your golf shots like jim furyk can.

[footjoyclassic]

Don't feel bad, a recent poll had 55% of tour players with the same false beliefs as you. Talk to any golfing machine instructor, or morad instructor, or stack and tilt instructor. I am not going to dispute you any longer b/c you will not seek the answers, it is just what you feel, so like I said best wishes and good luck.

[ddahlquist]

Jim hits way shallow on the ball with a little bit open face about 6 degrees open and draws it. If his face was square fore left. Footjoy is right on about this video.

[footjoyclassic]

He actually is wrong, the clubface determines where the ball starts out, not the swing path. The swing path determines the curvature of the ball and where it ends up. This is a world class golfer who has it backwords. It goes to show it is not always about properly understanding what is happening in your golf swing to be able to play great golf.

[BirdmanDeuce26]

I think you got that reversed...if that was the case, would we be swinging with open faces on an out-to-in path to hit a draw?