“It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there. We ought to do it really because its right. We ought to do because quite frankly, the American people can handle the truth and we ought to do it because its the law.”
~ John Podesta- Advisor to president Obama and Former Chief of staff speaking at a Washington Press Conference concerning the need for UFO disclosure.
"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
~ Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, (NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.
"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."
~ Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the earth, either manned or under remote control, or both."
~ Colonel Joseph J. Bryan III - Founder of the CIA's psychological warfare staff, special assistant to the secretary of the Air Force, advisor to NATO, and board of NICAP
"It is time for the truth to be brought out in open congressional hearings, through official secrecy and ridicule, citizens are led to believe the unkown flying objects are nonsense".
As long as SH0LVA keeps regurgitation lies, we'll keep repeating the truth as well as posting verifiable quotes in perfect context *with source* for all to check and confirm. Enjoy..
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
User «dahur» is a heavily menticized and mentally disturbed exo-UFOistic zealot, who claims being in possession of the absolute thruth once provided to him by the golden, mind-enlighting ET-probe (and similar means). He is determinded to fight against everybody, who questions the existence of ET - and denies scientific facts and rational thinking. With manipulated out-of-context quotes, he attempts to discredit me. He is unable to participate in a discussion based on facts.
“Over the past eighteen years I have acted as a scientific consultant to the U.S. Air Force on the subject of unidentified flying objects – UFO’s. As a consequence of my work on the voluminous air force files and, to a greater extent, of personal investigation of many puzzling cases and interviews with witnesses of good repute, I have long been aware that the subject of UFO’s could not be dismissed as mere nonsense.”
~ J. Allan Hynek- Lead scientific investigator for Project Bluebook
(ff2)...scientists working with islamic nations and too curious UFoolOgists and UFO-nuts experience a surprisingly low life expectation. I have a couple of good friends in military intelligence circles who are decidedly keen on filling the skulls of treasonous UFO-nuts with 5.56 NATO-bullets. Since it's obvious, you are mentally unable to accept the legitimity of military state-secrets, you are already close to your black, fashionable federal body-bag.
@SH0LVA LOL! Sacha, You have no such friends and you're not the slightest bit eligible to either. You can't even as much as name any good scientist, government officials or military leaders of any quality to support your wild paranoid schizophrenic claims, delusions or fantasy threats. You need to face the fact that you're not an alien life form from a place other than "Sol3" and the earth is your home world. You really should ask your family for forgiveness and help to get the support you need.
“Former president Mubarak was a precious asset within our portfolio of influence. Remotely controllable, sufficiently corrupt, cruel, durable and bullet-proof.”
~ SH0LVA
"New Mexico UFO crash documentary (part 3)"
Oh wow..No wonder my country thinks your an idiot and has the FBI after you since you frequently like to say things like that.
“It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there. We ought to do it really because its right. We ought to do because quite frankly, the American people can handle the truth and we ought to do it because its the law.”
~ John Podesta- Advisor to president Obama and Former Chief of staff speaking at a Washington Press Conference concerning the need for UFO disclosure.
"Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas."
~Alfred Whitney Griswold
New York Times, 24 February 1959
“Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.”
~Thomas Jefferson
Principal author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the United States and Founding Father.
(ff2)...simply accept a couple of simple intelligible facts: i) All govts on Sol3 share my humble opinion. ii) Air-forces and not UFO-nuts are tasked to monitor and protect national and international air-spaces. And they do this job uncomplainingly and without any gaps in their sensorical perception. iii) Nations are governed by governments - and neither by UFO-nuts, nor conspiracy paranoids, nor Scientologists, nor perpetua mobile believers. iv) All govts hold legitimate and legally state-....
@SH0LVA LOL! You're Still not an alien no matter how many times you try to imply it! All governments on "Sol3" as you awkwardly and geekishly put it (and of which you live on and were born on as a human) do not share a vast majority of what you try to term as "opinions". My own government thinks you're a total idiot and has the FBI chasing you. Turn yourself over to my government if you think they share your opinion. You're only eligible as a criminal to them.
(ff4)...secrets, only officials with a suitable security clearance and a need to know have access. Violators are neutralized or even exterminated. (That isn't a threat, but a kind reminder) v) You are mentally ill and you should see your psychiatrist. As opposed to your scientific ignorance and nonsensial babble, I got a formal psychological training with my military intelligence unit. Therefore, I can judge, whether a person is mentally healthy or not.
@SH0LVA You have no clearence for anything and you're already in trouble with the USA.
“I'm on the FBI's most wanted list”
~SH0LVA
Posted under: “White House ET/UFO disclosure petition: Sign and make it go viral! -- Steve Bassett”
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense".
~ Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, First CIA Director
"I am aware that hundreds of military and airline pilots, airport personnel, astronomers, missile trackers and other competent observers have reported sightings . . . These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the earth, either manned or under remote control, or both".
"We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area. (A high ranking Air Force officer) said, Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report."
~ Captain Robert Salas - US Air Force, discussing with military pannel the security issues about power loss to missiles as UFO's appeared, reported happening in missile bases in at least 5 states and addresssing the UFO cover-up in a CNN, LKL interview.
(ff2)...ufoism itself grew up to a own pseudo-religion, that has nothing to to with state-secrets, but rather with sociological concerns of govts because exo-ufoistical followers are mostly conspiracy theory believers too - and too much conspiracy mumbo jumbo is able to fry people's brains.
"...in the way you deliberately mischaracterize millions of people in how we view this whole topic..." Yes, Sir! I am fully aware, I injure the exo-religious feelings of millions of exo-ufoistical....
(ff3)...followers, when a fight against the artificial mystification of UAP. The genuine definition of the acronym UFO as officially issued by the ATIC, 1947, is an airborne object, those identity and origin can't be determined - and nothing else. The exo-youfoolositical mystification has started just after the Adamski-hoax (uncovered by means of forensical analysis by Philip J. Klaas, BTW). Meanwhile, whe have a exo-UFoolOistical multi-billion industry. Even formerly serious TV-stations like...
(ff3)...History Channel participate, because this business with the stupidity and already menticized UFO-crazies is highly profitable. Since this daunting development hadn't gone unnoticed by the world's govts, they all have released their entire archives of formerly top secret cold war era UFO-files into the public domain. Details about still used advanced military technologies, intelligence sources and methods are exempted, of course. And, of course, this step has no effect for already...
"A purely psychological explanation is ruled out. The discs show signs of intelligent guidance, by quasi-human pilots. The authorities in possession of important information should not hesitate to enlighten the public as soon and as completely as possible."
~ Carl Gustav Jung- *Founder of modern psychology*
(ff2)...a ad hominem argument (your miseducation) with the logical fallycy of popularity (lots of people) garnished with an awkward claim (miseducation).
You are mentally sick and you've just lost every reality awareness. Therefore, you should urgently see your psychiatrist. And don't forget to print out this blog and hand the hardcopies over to your doctor. He will immediatly recognize your problems.
@SH0LVA Look at how emotional you've become here. You're hurting and I understand why. You have great fears and great paranoia to contend with on a daily basis with your kind of pathology. Sacha, We can all see enough of your state of mind to know that you're the one who's very very sick but you can't get well unless you also gain the help and support you'll need from family or any possible friends you have left who you haven't hurt or betrayed beyond reconciliation. Try before you're all lost.
@jklinne8 Wow! I have to admit, I have underestimated your skills to make up fantastic nonsense on a very professional level. You are really good at dreaming up noble bovine excreta of highest quality. Carefully boiled up ad hominem adrguments; unostentatiously garnished with convincing pseudo-psychology. Therefore, you should start your own conspiracy publishing business. Of course, after you will have therapied your menticide. Otherwise, you risk to get sucked in by your own fairy tales.
@SH0LVA As many times as you've admitted to telling lies (basically making up your own fairy tales) and have been caught in lies, you've had no debate here to offer. You see, most of us actually prefer to have proof of claims made about a UFO and your biggest lie is in the way you deliberately mischaracterize millions of people in how we view this whole topic. Apparently, your paranoid delusions have brought nothing but problems i.e. lawsuits from your family members and attention from the FBI.
@jklinne8 "...As many times as you've admitted to telling lies..." As an UFO-nut without any background in engineering sciences and intelligence techniques, you are not in the position to detect, when or wheater I tell lies or not. Legitimate (and legal) lies are an accepted means in politics and intelligence agencies to cover-up the same legitimate and legal state secrets. Dangerous and/or military used advanced technologies go into this category - sometimes mistaken for UAP. However exo-...
(ff4)...already mystified and menticized UFO-nuts, because changing their minds would be for them like apostasy for an Islamist: A capital sin. Therefore, psychiatrists, mental institutions and monkey-chasers have to step in, and like hundreds of other mentally healthy scientists and engineers, my humble self provides a modest contribution to disinfect this planet from superstion, exo-ufoism and perpetua-mobile-adoration.
@SH0LVA Sorry Mr. FBI fugitive but you're in no position to lecture us about anything at all. There are many cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept UFOs. Look up Washington UFOs 1952. Look up CNN's documentary with military pilot testimony about being ordered to chase and fire on UFOs and the accounts of jets screaming into site after UFO's near G W Bushes Crawford ranch near Stephensville TX. Our government prefers this not be top news...
@jklinne8 "....Mr. FBI fugitive but you're in no position..." LOL! LOL LOL! ROFL! And it continues with your artful presentation of logical fallacies like the argumentum ad hominem.
"...Washington UFOs 1952..." LOL again! Only menticized UFO-nuts reject all reproducable findings (RADAR ghost echo caused by an inversion, plus a photograph that shows lens-flares from the Capitol's lights), since their selective perception prevents them accepting the real, non-youfooloistical reality.
... To try to lie and pass off all major case UFOs as military secret projects is to say that we have a military that is now at war with itself because there are many documented cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept and even fire on UFOs. Also having nuclear weapons going offline as UFOs appear is a serious national security threat. A government belongs to it’s people and not the other way around..
@jklinne8 "...all major case UFOs..." No matter, how many times you repeat this nonsense, it won't be truer, since no such thing like a 'major UFO case' exists.
"... cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept [...] UFOs..." Cold war era RADAR systems showed indeed strange ghost returns and many fighter jet pilots regularly chase stratopheric balloons or the venus. Since UFO-nuts and their spiritual leaders are ignorant about RADAR-technology, they regularly come forward with these....
(ff2)...argumentum ignorantiam logical fallacy. Contemporary SAR-, LIDAR/LADAR-, FLIR- and spectrometric sensor systems can identify everything in the airspace with sub-inch accuracy. And inappropriate UAP like e.g. a gone astray MHB over a nuclear power-plants are simply chased away by F-16 fighter jets. You shouldn't forget for a nanosecond, your govt governs you and not vice versa.
You are seriously mentally challenged. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist as soon as possible.
@SH0LVA Your narcissism is so acute that you don't have the ability to realize how much you injure yourself by your own lies and self-destructive actions. When you lie and mischaracterize me and even millions of regular people, you’ve hurt absolutely no one but yourself. All your ridicule, ad-homenim threats and slander only show you’re lack of education with this topic with desperation for not making any civilized (let alone logical) points.
@jklinne8 "...Your narcissism is so acute..." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! And here we go again: A completly brain-damaged UFO-nut, who attempts to argue mystical exo-ufoistical little green ETs into their existence by pseudo-psychological claims (officially termed as argumentum ad hominem). Yes, by non sequiturs and argumentum ignorantiam, authoritative pseudeo-arguments misrepresentation of misidentified phenomena, everything can be argued into its existence. During the the medieval dark ages, well...
@SH0LVA An ethical skeptic is someone who can research and cross reference information.. and whether that information proves valid or not, can then be swayed one way or another. A Debunker, on the other hand, will have their own self-biased agendas and ignore research or worse still, sculpt elaborate disinformation and use ridicule to try to hide a lack of a point as well as attempt to dampen interest. You're work for me as the bad guy contrast has amplified my message to more people. Thanks!
@jklinne8 "...An ethical skeptic...." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! It's amazing to read, what UFO-nuts dream up from their bowels (probably their mental processing unit). I am here on a mission with an agenda as stated on my Youtube-sites. Simply accept the fact, I am your monkey-chaser - and you are the monkey. And if you would turn into a public danger, Robert S. Mueller got one reason more to get worried, since his agents are powerless against the public health officer, the DIA, USAF and the AFSPC.
@SH0LVA ...And we can see that you're powerless against a public health officer, the DIA, USAF the AFSPC and the FBI or you would not have said and I quote:
“I change my IP-addresses very often. Therefore the FBI can't locate me.”
~SHOLVA
Oakland-UFO-05-26-11.mov
Uploaded by kevinmc360 on May 27, 2011
So nope...I think you'll keep working for me until they catch you.
@jklinne8 No matter, how many times you repeat your misrepresented out-of-context quotes and how desperately you attempt to argue your exo-ufoistical wet dreams into their existence - all govts on Sol3 strictly obey the recommendations regarding UAP policies of our litle, unimportant institution. And no matter, how many UFO-nuts I hunt down, I can walk in to the J. Edgar Hoover Building in Washington D.C. - and out; despite I am on the FBI's most wanted list. This is wonderful, isn't it?
@SH0LVA I doubt it and as long as you keep regurgitating lies I can easily keep repeating the truth. We have no reason to post out of context quotes since it would defeat the purpose of showing the big proplems you have. The fact is that you claim to be hiding from the FBI. Anyone can check that. Tell your psychiatrist about how you feel regarding Sol3 and it's terran humans. He (or she) will help you to understand that you're not an extraterrestrial, among other things very wrong with you.
@jklinne8 It doesn't matter what exactly you dream up, insinuate, confabulate, claim or believe. There is only one important thing: You have to cease sucking in unsuspecting gullible people into the exo-ufoistical marshland.
@SH0LVA LOL...they all sucked me into the interest of this topic and not the other way around..you have an insurmountable task on your hands if you think you can sqelch out the intrest in UFO's.
@jklinne8 Of course, for an UFO-nut the '...best scientists and military people in the word..." are those, who are likewise exo-ufoistically misguided and menticized. All govts on Sol3 however hold the view of good, fact- and proof-based science and strictly follow the policy instructions of our little unimportant institution - and my humble self; as indicated on the ufoistical USAF-website on my channel. It is all but a coincidence, within the reach of your govt, terrorists, nuclear...
@SH0LVA You're trying to tell us that our military and the airlines are flying people around without suitable detectors on the ground or onboard planes to determine whether or not any other thing is the air that they could run into. And this gets even more interesting when the craft being reported are disobeying FAA regulations. Sorry but that’s unacceptable...
(ff2)...paid scholars artfully argued fairies, unicorns, witches into their existence, as millions of ancient Greeks based their faith into Zeus on lightning and thunder and werent aware of the fact, they all were wrong. Nowadays, the superstition spreading industry abuses imperfections of cold war era RADAR systems, sightings of true top secret spy crafts, misidentifications, colored up misidentifications and mispercations to fabricate major UFO cases - per proclamation of course. You should...
@SH0LVA We already know that you're so miseducated that you'd require a spectrometer taped to your brain just in order to tell a cow from a dog but military pilots and scientist are better trained people than some lesser educated engineer with an inferiorty complex. We've seen massive military and scientific analysis take place in countries like Belgium among others which have concluded that a percentage of UFOs are not explainable as man made or natural things.
@SH0LVA ...As I've said before...we have at least identified that there are objects flying that our military have been chasing and are very concerned with. They don't know who or what flys them. That's plenty of news right there and worth investigatiing. Your own claims as to what it may have been are worthless without proof for your claims. I've made no claims. National security and flight safety issues need solving.
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
@SH0LVA Major case UFOs like these preceed and go beyond the cold war> 1947 Twining Memo. 1950 Hanford AEC document. 1952 CIA Chadwell Memo. 1953 Oak Ridge Memo. 1954 Maxwell AFB Emergency Memo. 1955 Pepperell AFB Radar-Visual UFO tracking. 1966 Minot AFB UFO Landing Memo. 1967 Malmstron AFB Memo. 1969 Bellender Memo. 1975 NORAD and USAF UFO documents. 1976 DIA Memo (Iranian Jet fighter incident). 1978 State Dept Memo on Bolivian UFO crash. 1981 Halt Memo 1990 DIA documents on Belgian UFO.
Too many UFO Debunker myths and lies are wasting our time and only show proof of ...not wanting open investigations about UFOs. The radar scopes have too many times shown UFOs as clear hits in synchronization with visual confirmation from military or airline pilots. Most people polled today don’t believe that thousands of highly trained military pilots and airline pilots are telling myths and neither do the radar specialists that recorded all the hits on their scopes...
...People have already had access to potentially dangerous energy forms like nuclear energy so it sounds rather sinister when a questionable figure suggest that disclosure must be delayed because most people are not responsible enough with new energy discoveries. But if anyone's hoarding clean energy secrets and claiming it's for our own good, who can really trust them after taking a hard look around at this world...
...For Americans there has been a study erosion of trust of the government for about the past 30 or 40 years. The knowledge that our government was not being honest began in the 1960's when the war in south east Asia escalated with secret bombing champagnes in Cambodia. In the 1980s arms were sold to support the Contra anti communist in Nicaragua in violation of US law and without public knowledge. So our government is no stranger to keeping the wrong kind of secrets....
...And I would finally add that if our government (or any other) had the kind of technology that our own military pilots have been intermittently engaged with since world war 2 to date hat we could have instantly won any war we with it.
“There are people who said they saw things and whenever that happens they deserve at least n investigation.”
~ Senator John McCain being asked about UFO’s in a radio interview on KFYI Phoenix, Arizona June 25, 1997
As for myself, I do not to draw any conclusions as to what UFOs represent but simply want them properly investigated to determine it. People we entrust with our lives such as the military and airline pilots are not reporting aliens but UFOs. These reports obviously require serious regard and investigation and yet disinformation agents continue to try (and have failed) to explain or solve major UFO cases.
@jklinne8 LOL! LOL! LOL! Whenever you run out of exo-youfooloistical pseudo-arguments, you always flip into the ad hominem attack-mode and quote out-of context quotes, come forward with ad hominem arguments (a well known exo-UFoolOistical logical fallacy), or, you start to strenghten your exo-ufoistical faith by quoting artificially mystified cold war era ufoistical nonsense. That's the mental operating system function set of all UFO-nuts; nobody takes seriously. Please see your psychiatrist.
@SH0LVA I didn't hurt you with your own words. You did it yourself so calm your little emotions down. You're projecting again when you're the one who needs psychiatric care. As for the rest, I always get the last laugh since major UFO events have been happening well before and well after the cold war. I'll try to educate you since you lack the understanding that UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object" and therefor every UFO is a mystery until it's solved, thus they are mysterious by definition.
@jklinne8 "...every UFO is a mystery until it's solved...." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! You made my day! We have it again, the mother of all exo-ufoistical logical fallacies, the ancient Romans termed «argumentum ad ignorantiam» (engl. argument from ignorance). In simple words: Whenever a dipstick is too stupid to make himself familiar with unicorns, then these mythological creatures remain real for him - however only for him. Please see your psychiatrist. You are seriously mentally damaged.
@SH0LVA Again I get the last laugh as you've made lots of people laugh at your miseducation. UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object" and therefor a UFO is a mystery until it's solved, thus UFOs are mysterious by definition. When you prove what a UFO is then it's not longer an "Unidentified" Flying Object and then no longer a mystery. Today plenty of major case UFOs remain a mystery and that's why they are called "UFOs". Projecting to others what you actually need won't help you get well either.
@jklinne8 "...Again I get the last laugh as..." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! You just start becoming really good at well known logical fallacies! This time, you've caught the «Galileo-Gamit» - a special case of the fallacy called Non Sequitur: You make your own definitions ("...UFOs are mysterios by definition...") and attempt to position yourself as an authoritative exo-UFoolOisitical scholar. "... lots of people laugh at your miseducation...." An awesome bunch of paralogism: You managed to combine..
"Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows."
~SH0LVA Posted right here under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
«No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs than you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this statement.»
~ Philip J. Klass, 1983
PS: Of course, UFO-nuts can't understand the subtle irony.
@SH0LVA Again the reason Klass was unrequited and upset throughout his life by not knowing more about UFOs correlated with the fact he had only an engineer degree. He wasn't as mentally equipped for forming logical hypothesis like higher educated scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist have which I quote. I guess this means you'll lie and remain an easy target with people like Shermer, Clark, Klass, and any similar of poorer standing.
@jklinne8 You are mentally damaged. Therefore, you are unable to follow a factual discussion and to comprehend scientific logic. Instead, you permanently replace facts against faith. Please see your psychiatrist. If I would come to the conclusion, you were a public danger, I arranged an appointment for you. This experience however will change your life.
«No UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security. There was no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge; and there was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.»
«Lots of people continue to believe that the release of these [UK MoD UFO] files is just a whitewash and the government is concealing the fact that we are not alone in the universe. There is nothing you can do to disprove this -- no matter how many files are released, if people don't see what they want in the files, they don't believe it's the truth.»
@jklinne8 LOL! Verbs like 'might', 'could' and 'would' express a conjunctive mood - and not a fact. The hard fact is, since 64 years, not one single UAP sighting with sufficient data has been attributed as something else than a unrecognized or misidentified natural or man made phenomenon. It's certainly not a terribly bad idea for you to pray twice a day Dr. Edward Condon's conclusion and Philip Klaas' ufoistical axiom.
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
@SH0LVA Governments are made up of lots of people who would mostly disagree with very much of what you rant and you're not eligible for the kinds of things they know and deal with today. You're not even eligible to handle your own reality. My own government thinks you're a total idiot and so do I. I see they have the FBI after you now. Wow..I'm so glad I don't have your tragic kind of life. Good luck to you anyway with all your troubles.
"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."
~ Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
@jklinne8 According to all serious UFO-studies [e.g. UK MoD UAPReport, 2001, Condon 1969], all known UAP-sightings (those with sufficient data) are found being unrecognized or misidentified natural or man made phenomena. Without exception. Since mentally damaged UFO-nuts are too stupid to accept this fact, they always recycle ufoistical cold war era stuff (then top secret spy-crafts) and waste lots of time, money and energy to prevent the exo-youfooloistical myth to die its deserved death.
(ff2)...After governements around Sol3 (the earth) had recognized the harmful nature of the activities of UFO-nuts, they all demonstratively shut down publicly funded UAP-research and released their entire archives of UFO-files into the public domain. Since then, engineers, marksmen, public health officers and intelligence agencies are the only entities, who are able to keep UFO-nuts covered and to neutralize them, whenever required.
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
@dahur Have you ever considered to engage the Pope's Pear to come to your right senses?
This nasty device is completely different from the godemichet made from silicone rubber, you are used to use for ET-probe games with your boyfriend jklinne8, aka lllwindrunner.
"In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My text books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physicist to learn about the unified field theory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out there, perhaps even visited, perhaps on our moon. - ABC News Quote
~ Professor Michio Kaku, Author of Theoretical Physics UNY
(ff2)...means of HUMINT. Since UFO nuts are obsessed with (apparent) credibility regaring the topic of their menticide, I decrease my own apparent credibility on the lowest possible level. This allows me to dish up the truth that appears being a lie, or vice versa, or to dillute the truth with lies beyond recognition. The resulting confusion strengthens the exo-ufoistical faith of my victims; so they become an easy meat for the public health officer (we term the monkey-catcher).
@jklinne8 “...The FBI wants to strap my humble self down to the lethal injection gurney..." That's not exactly correct. The FBI is literally overwhelmed by hundreds of criminal complaints from UFO-nuts and their relatives, since I often commission the monkey-catcher. Therefore Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows. All at the same time, of course.
@SH0LVA "The FBI wants to strap my humble self down to the lethal injection gurney" is an exact quote your from you're very own post. I think I'll take your advice and just relax now as I watch you continue to do fight with yourself.
(ff3)...systematically misguide their gullible audience, whenever i) many people saw a UAP, ii) a UAP report sounds fantasitic, iii) the available data is insufficient enough, exo-UFoolOistical spiritual leaders can claim anything that sound plausible at first glance.
"...[you] claim things of no proof..." A proof is required for an extraordinary, positive statement. Already proven facts or informational statements are never subjected to a proof, since the consistency can be validated e.g...
@jklinne8 "....you continue to do fight with yourself...." I have simply defined the feelings of Robert Mueller (Director of the FBI) against my humble self more precisely.
You suffer from multiple mental disorders. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist.
«No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs than you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this statement.»
~ Philip J. Klass, 1983
PS: Of course, UFO-nuts can't understand the subtle irony.
@SH0LVA I think the reason Klass was unrequited and upset throughout his life by not knowing more about UFOs correlated with the fact he had only an engineer degree. He wasn't as mentally equipped for forming logical hypothesis like higher educated scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist have which I quote. I guess this means you'll lie and remain an easy target with people like Shermer, Clark, Klass, and any similar of poorer standing.
@jklinne8 "...I think the reason Klass was unrequited and upset..." LOL! LOL LOL! ROFL! Only UFO-nuts, who rely their judgement on half-truths, misinterpretations, misrepresentations and their own scientific ignorance are able to claim such a nonsense. Although I accept, your menticide prevents you from any unbiased thinking regarding the UAP-topic, I can tell you, Klaas had a very satisfied life; lthough, he was «only» a graduated electrical engineer and not a high ranking youfooloist.
@SH0LVA Look again. Klass was no fountain of proof and was obviously upset that he was never able to solve any major case UFO or have any leg to stand on for his clearly emotional words. So he could only complain and whine like you. Even you're no more than a claimed to be engineer and claim things of no proof. Rest well assured there are people out there with technical knowledge of things your never going to have access to. It's always been that way and always will be. You're nothing special.
@jklinne8 "...Klass was no fountain of proof..." Only in exo-ufoisms, people can play the role of fountains of proof. It takes a very high ranking exo-ufoistical spiritual leader, who authorizes a highly credible UFO-nut to turn his claim into the state of a proof. In ordinary science however, a proof is never attached to a particular person, but to a finding. Otherwise, the scientific rules of evidence (accessibility, verifiability, unambiguity and repeatability) can't be accomplished.
(ff2)..."...[Klaas]...was never able to solve any major case UFO..." That's wrong. Please read his books, in that he uncovers hundreds of misidentifications, misperceptions and hoaxes. Bibliography: [ISBN 0-394-45003-5, ISBN 0-394-46972-0, ISBN 0-394-49215-3, ISBN 0-87975-322-6, ISBN 0-87975-509-1, ISBN 1-57392-148-3, ISBN 1-57392-164-5]
Beside, no such thing like a 'major UFO case' has ever existed. This is an invention of the exo-youfooloistical conspiracy publishing industy, who....
(ff4)...from a textbook. Uneducated and mentally damaged UFO-nuts however are mostly at the bottom line of the educational food-chain. Therefore, they can't verify e.g. a mathematical or physical statement like dsin(x)/dx=cos(x) or ▼·B=0. Also a common profession doesn't need a proof. I have never claimed being a unicorn breeder.
"...You're nothing special..." It doesn't matter who I am and what I do. My agenda is to inform people and deliver dangerous UFO-nuts into mental institutions.
@SH0LVA Sorry Mr. pathological liar but you fail. Neither Kl'ass' or any debunker has ever solved even this small sample of major UFO cases: 1950 Hanford AEC document 1952 CIA Chadwell Memo 1953 Oak Ridge Memo 1954 Maxwell AFB Emergency Memo 1955 Pepperell AFB Radar-Visual UFO tracking 1966 Minot AFB UFO Landing Memo 1967 Malmstron AFB Memo 1969 Bellender Memo 1975 NORAD and USAF UFO documents 1976 DIA Memo Iranian Jet fighter incident 1978 State Dept. Memo on Bolivian UFO crash 1981 Halt Memo
@jklinne8 I'm going to repeat it again: You are not eligible for any knowledge regarding UAP, that isn't already released by FOIA, FOI or a similar law into the public domain, since you are mentally challengend and you can't cope with this matter. Once more, I ask you officially to see your psychiatrist. The same accounts for your boyfriend dahur.
@SH0LVA I'm going to repeat that you're the one not eligible for anything other than to be a criminal. Trust my government and turn yourself in to the FBI. They will keep you safe from the truth that you can't handle accordingly.
@SH0LVA Most psychiatrist looking into a print out at your ranting comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and paranoid schizophrenia. It is suggested that you get treatment or turn yourself over to the FBI.
@SH0LVA Most psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia. It is suggested that you get treatment ASAP or turn yourself over to the FBI.
@SH0LVA Why bother? I have no need of one. Besides...Any psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia and I suggest that you get treatment ASAP or... turn yourself over to the FBI.
@SH0LVA Why bother? I have no need of one. Besides...Any psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia and I suggest that you get treatment ASAP or... turn yourself over to the FBI.
"The negative claims of pseudo-skeptics who offer facile explanations must themselves be subject to criticism. If a competent witness reports having seen something tens of degrees of arc in size (as happens) and the scoffer, who of course was not there -- offers Venus or a high altitude weather balloon as an explanation, the requirement of extraordinary proof for an extraordinary claim falls on the proffered negative claim as well."
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
@dahur He's hurt himself by all he's done here with threats, user name forgery, and spamming people, all of which reveal his weakness, cowardice, and ignorance.
(ff2)...the UK-govt to shut down the public office immediatly. I forwarded the same posts to the city council of Denver. After reading your and dahur's posts, they decided to shoot down Peckman's exo-youfooloistical initiative.
@SH0LVA LOL excellent..We know people like the FBI and others can look into the history of your faked out version of a lllwindrunner and jklinne8 accounts in which you were using other characters (lower case L's and upper case i's look similar) which looked liked the original account and which you also then used to threaten people with and can be found on Youtube records. Bury yourself in your problems while we sit back and enjoy the show!
@SH0LVA Oh And BTW..I won't have to change my IP address like you've said you have to do to hide from the FBI so any post from me will check out just fine.
@jklinne8 LOL! Why should I be touched by nonsense, UFO-crazies expel? Since I am in the fortunate position, I can rely on my military intelligence training, I can cope with of all sorts of attacks. The one and only reason, I spend so much time to provoke you and your boyfriend daher is, you are the most valuable useful idiots - always ready to write a witty post, political decision makers perceive as a proof, the general populace should be kept out of the loop of sensitive knowledge.
“lawsuits from relatives aren't extraordinary things for me.”
~ SH0LVA
Posted under: “BBC News: Alien hunters - An array of hope”
I totally believe that's not a lie. Like I've said befor, It's not really about just UFOs with you. It's about a very wide range of topics that you also harrass people about. So you can drop this big UFO front anytime you wish. It's not working as an excuse for your over-all illness.
@jklinne8 "... It's not really about just UFOs with you. It's about a very wide range of topics..." That's correct. Exo-ufoism is only one facet. Please go to the «debrainwasher» account and read my mission agenda. Everthing is laid out there.
Altough my relation with the FBI isn't very warm-hearted, becuase hundreds of criminal complaints of UFO-nut's relatives are pending, I can assure you, they won't arrest me, since I am protected by other agencies. Remember, you have still no idea, who...
@jklinne8 If the US govt wanted to arrest me, they could locate my humble self within about 50ms. That's about the time, the NSA needs to geolocate any TCP/IP.connection by the Echelon network. And unsurprisingly, one of Echelon's main nodes sits in Leuk, Switzerland. For simple economical reasons, I evade every criminal and civil complaint from UFO-nut's relataives. And we talk about a lot of money. Whenever a UFO-nut is delivered into a mental institution by a public health officer, his...
@SH0LVA You're the very definition of a UFO nut. I simply share the same stance as millions upon millions do in not claiming what UFOs are but just wanted them investigated. You'll never shut that interest down no matter how hard you try or how long you live. The mystery doesn't hurt me in the slightest. It's a facinating topic to millions and millions of us along side of other things we enjoy. I guess all the famous ufologist out there must make you loose sleep at night. You need to get well.
@jklinne8 If you wouldn't be a UFO-nut, you could understand, i) all air-forces on this planet are tasked with the monitoring of their air-spaces by instruments, you can't even spell, ii) air-space intrusion detections, identifications and interceptions are a matter of air-forces and not UFO-nuts, iii) there are many classified aerial operation, not intended for the general populace. Therefore, 'open investigations' are as inappropriate like a hamster in a microwave oven.
“Too pushy UAP are simply chased away by F-16's. Decoy flares create literally enough confusion, the incident fades away quickly.”
~ SH0LVA AKA “debrainwasher” Talking about how UFO’s are covered up. Posted under: “UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record - Leslie Kean (Pt.1) 8-15-2010”
(ff2)...but they appreciate my humble contributions to neutralize annoying UFO-nuts and conspiracy crazies, I can enter and leave America without any problems - as far as I don't hand over blue-prints of the Ghost Hawk (or other related technologies) to China.
Therefore, you can be relaxed and go on writing exo-ufoistical posts - or, you can see your psychiatrist to therapy your menticide.
@SH0LVA Sacha, Wake up. There are people out there with technical knowledge about things that you're never ever going to find out about. You're not even special even if you're not telling lies here about such a propulsion system. So get over yourself.
@jklinne8 Whenever a miseducated know-all UFO-nut believes, he can rebuke graduated electrical engineers, so he has necessaraly heralded the truth. At least the virtual reality truth. No matter what you believe, your position won't be canged and your exo-ufoistical faith won't show any impact on your daily life. You are mentally sick. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist, while I go on to contribute to protect you from the truth, you can't handle accordingly. That's a fair labor division.
@SH0LVA Sorry but there's nothing all that special about electrical engineers, cabaret artist, journalist or the lower ranking military that you hold up as all knowing of UFOs and so well educated. I prefer to quote scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist, CIA, military leaders, government officials and even some presidents but you can't. Your only transparently defeated option is to call them all crazy. Have fun with that strategy. : )
@jklinne8 Despite your obvious misconception of the academical education system, you can quote as many UFO-crazies (percieved as authoritative scientists) as you want, everything regarding artificially mystified exo-ufoism plays in your fantasy only - without any impact to your daily life. Like the medieval misbelief that grew around unicorns, the exo-ufoistical misbelief will last for centuries. Since Philip J. Klaas saw trough the exo-youfooloistic business, he issued his famous axiom.
@jklinne8 "...As for you and truth..." Since UFO-, conspiracy- and free energy nuts are mostly located at the bottom end of the educational food chain, they can't distinct facts from lies, since their mental capabilities are limited to their miseducation, gut feelings and faith. My agenda consists from i) information of people about superstitious but widespread misbeliefs, ii) protection of the general populace from the truth, they can't handle accordingly. To perform this job, I use accepted...
(ff2)...I am really. And that's intended. So be a good boy, continue to take encouragement from ET-probe games with your boyfriend dahur and go on writing exo-ufoistical YouTube-posts I can harvest and forward to parliamentarians and senators of western govts. It's still a small step for you, but a huge leap for humanity.
“Don't cant! You benefit personally from cheaper gas- and fuel prices, when our strategies to inflame and maintain civil wars in the middle-eastern region relieve the economical pression, and govts and their cititzens there depopulate themselves.”
~ SH0LVA
To verify context - Posted under: The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1
We're all still trying to figure out what “pression” and "Don't can't!" is suppose to mean. I sure the pariamentarians and senators just loved that quote!
(ff2)...family loses their income. Therefore civil compensation lawsuits regularly exceed the $1 million limit. Currently, no lawyer has ever managed to enforce a habeas corpus against me. Without conviction, your claim, being a criminal is simply wrong. So I have no reason to cease my attempts to take dangerous UFO- and conspiracy nuts off the streets by YouTubes convenient anti-rampage emergency protocol.
@SH0LVA LOL! The fact is, if you're wanted by the FBI as you've claimed, then your wanted by the US government for a crime, thus, you're a criminal and also a self deluded psychotic for not even understanding that.
@jklinne8 Theoretically, the US govt could condemn me to death for treason according to 18 U.S.C §2381, because I have the technical knowledge about propulsion principle and the power plant of the silent host Hawk «helicopter» and its detection principle, and, I've already offered this knowledge to a Chinese colonel - after China had failed to grab the destroyed flying machine from Abbottabad in May 2011. Since the US MOD (The Pentagon) isn't very keen on a public exposure if this technology,...
UFOs mean "unidentified flying object" and these unidentified things are going into our countries most restricted air spaces. There are hundreds of witness testimony by USA military personal, many of which are the same people with codes for launching ICBMs reporting that these unidentified things have appeared and then all power to launch missiles has gone out. So whether it’s some mass military insanity or something else- either way is the absolute biggest of news deserving of investigations.
@jklinne8 UFOs mean "unidentified flying object" for somebody, who is either not familiar with a particular aerial phenomenon or the circumstances are unusual, or his scientific ignorance prevents him from the use of appropriate scientific instruments to discover the true nature behind a UAP sighting. Air-forces however have trained personnel and instruments to monitor their air-space and the ability to identify or intercept real airspace violators. Simply trust your govt. They keep you safe.
@jklinne8 You are not only an (useful) idiot indeed, but seriously mentally disturbed and damaged. Please see your psychiatrist as soon as possible and don't forget your medication. If you experienced any mental difficulties, I would suggest to see a priest and ask him for the Pope's Pear. It's the perfect contraption to give up your addiction to godemichets from silicone rubber, mistaken for the golden, mind-enlighting ET-probe.
@jklinne8 Your govt agrees very well with me. The FBI however has a little different stance. Since I don't exterminate UFO-nuts, but let them deliver into mental instituations by the public health officer, they are faced with loads of criminal complaints from the affected UFO-crazies and/or their relatives. However, there are good news. I've developped a new UFO-nut neutralization device. In fact it's a 1"x2' tube made from stainless steel with about 10 transversal incisions placed in a 20° ...
(ff2)...angle to the tube's axis. The front side of the tube is equipped with a tripple caterpillar drive - powered by a small LiPo-battery. Placed on the anus of any dangerous UFO-nut, the device will find its way into his body (even through clothes). Once in position, the drive's polarity becomes reversed. Now, the incisions of the tube behave like barbs and carve into the bowel of the victim. The dangerous UFO-crazy dies his deserved death from exsanguination within a couple minutes.
@SH0LVA The FBI is a part of and under the control of the united states government. If my government agreed with you, you'd have no reason to run away from them. But since you're a criminal in there eyes, you're confessing to also be on the run.
“I change my IP-addresses very often. Therefore the FBI can't locate me.”
“It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there. We ought to do it really because its right. We ought to do because quite frankly, the American people can handle the truth and we ought to do it because its the law.”
~ John Podesta- Advisor to president Obama and Former Chief of staff speaking at a Washington Press Conference concerning the need for UFO disclosure.
jklinne8 3 days ago
@jklinne8
Great quotes...!!
dahur 3 days ago
"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
~ Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, (NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.
jklinne8 3 days ago
"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."
~ Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
jklinne8 3 days ago
"These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the earth, either manned or under remote control, or both."
~ Colonel Joseph J. Bryan III - Founder of the CIA's psychological warfare staff, special assistant to the secretary of the Air Force, advisor to NATO, and board of NICAP
jklinne8 3 days ago
"It is time for the truth to be brought out in open congressional hearings, through official secrecy and ridicule, citizens are led to believe the unkown flying objects are nonsense".
~ First CIA Director Admiral R. Hillenkoetter
jklinne8 3 days ago
R E V E L A T I O N:
As long as SH0LVA keeps regurgitation lies, we'll keep repeating the truth as well as posting verifiable quotes in perfect context *with source* for all to check and confirm. Enjoy..
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
jklinne8 4 days ago
W A R N I N G:
User «dahur» is a heavily menticized and mentally disturbed exo-UFOistic zealot, who claims being in possession of the absolute thruth once provided to him by the golden, mind-enlighting ET-probe (and similar means). He is determinded to fight against everybody, who questions the existence of ET - and denies scientific facts and rational thinking. With manipulated out-of-context quotes, he attempts to discredit me. He is unable to participate in a discussion based on facts.
SH0LVA 4 days ago
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"dahur, I've warned you. And I don't repeat my warnings. I am used to act."
"-SHOLVA" AKA debrainasher, dahurHunter and many other user names
Posted under:
"UFO's in the USA:Proof is on the News"
jklinne8 5 days ago
"One of the prerequisites for my current job is an outright lack of ethical concerns."
~"SHOLVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
Posted under:
"Julian Assange Interview MSNBC Ratigan Show Dec 22nd 2010"
dahur 5 days ago
"Your right to exist is defined to make me and other people wealthier."
~"SHOLVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
Posted under:
"Depopulation of earth STARTS NOW!!! (FEMA starts NLE in 20 HRS or less) "
dahur 5 days ago
"Since people want stability, they want the hear my lies and not the truth."
~" SHOLVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
Posted under:
"New Declassified UFO MoD Files Released in UK 2011 (study more info)" eXoPolitcis UFO OVNI
dahur 5 days ago
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"dahur, I've warned you. And I don't repeat my warnings. I am used to act."
"-SHOLVA" AKA debrainasher, dahurHunter and many other user names
Posted under:
"UFO's in the USA:Proof is on the News"
dahur 5 days ago
“Over the past eighteen years I have acted as a scientific consultant to the U.S. Air Force on the subject of unidentified flying objects – UFO’s. As a consequence of my work on the voluminous air force files and, to a greater extent, of personal investigation of many puzzling cases and interviews with witnesses of good repute, I have long been aware that the subject of UFO’s could not be dismissed as mere nonsense.”
~ J. Allan Hynek- Lead scientific investigator for Project Bluebook
jklinne8 5 days ago
(ff2)...scientists working with islamic nations and too curious UFoolOgists and UFO-nuts experience a surprisingly low life expectation. I have a couple of good friends in military intelligence circles who are decidedly keen on filling the skulls of treasonous UFO-nuts with 5.56 NATO-bullets. Since it's obvious, you are mentally unable to accept the legitimity of military state-secrets, you are already close to your black, fashionable federal body-bag.
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA LOL! Sacha, You have no such friends and you're not the slightest bit eligible to either. You can't even as much as name any good scientist, government officials or military leaders of any quality to support your wild paranoid schizophrenic claims, delusions or fantasy threats. You need to face the fact that you're not an alien life form from a place other than "Sol3" and the earth is your home world. You really should ask your family for forgiveness and help to get the support you need.
jklinne8 5 days ago
@jklinne8 You are mentally sick. Please see your psychiatrist.
SH0LVA 4 days ago
“Former president Mubarak was a precious asset within our portfolio of influence. Remotely controllable, sufficiently corrupt, cruel, durable and bullet-proof.”
~ SH0LVA
"New Mexico UFO crash documentary (part 3)"
Oh wow..No wonder my country thinks your an idiot and has the FBI after you since you frequently like to say things like that.
jklinne8 5 days ago
“It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there. We ought to do it really because its right. We ought to do because quite frankly, the American people can handle the truth and we ought to do it because its the law.”
~ John Podesta- Advisor to president Obama and Former Chief of staff speaking at a Washington Press Conference concerning the need for UFO disclosure.
jklinne8 5 days ago
"Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas."
~Alfred Whitney Griswold
New York Times, 24 February 1959
“Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.”
~Thomas Jefferson
Principal author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the United States and Founding Father.
jklinne8 5 days ago
(ff2)...simply accept a couple of simple intelligible facts: i) All govts on Sol3 share my humble opinion. ii) Air-forces and not UFO-nuts are tasked to monitor and protect national and international air-spaces. And they do this job uncomplainingly and without any gaps in their sensorical perception. iii) Nations are governed by governments - and neither by UFO-nuts, nor conspiracy paranoids, nor Scientologists, nor perpetua mobile believers. iv) All govts hold legitimate and legally state-....
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA LOL! You're Still not an alien no matter how many times you try to imply it! All governments on "Sol3" as you awkwardly and geekishly put it (and of which you live on and were born on as a human) do not share a vast majority of what you try to term as "opinions". My own government thinks you're a total idiot and has the FBI chasing you. Turn yourself over to my government if you think they share your opinion. You're only eligible as a criminal to them.
jklinne8 5 days ago
(ff4)...secrets, only officials with a suitable security clearance and a need to know have access. Violators are neutralized or even exterminated. (That isn't a threat, but a kind reminder) v) You are mentally ill and you should see your psychiatrist. As opposed to your scientific ignorance and nonsensial babble, I got a formal psychological training with my military intelligence unit. Therefore, I can judge, whether a person is mentally healthy or not.
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA You have no clearence for anything and you're already in trouble with the USA.
“I'm on the FBI's most wanted list”
~SH0LVA
Posted under: “White House ET/UFO disclosure petition: Sign and make it go viral! -- Steve Bassett”
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1
jklinne8 5 days ago
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense".
~ Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, First CIA Director
jklinne8 6 days ago
"I am aware that hundreds of military and airline pilots, airport personnel, astronomers, missile trackers and other competent observers have reported sightings . . . These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the earth, either manned or under remote control, or both".
~ Colonel Joseph Bryan, CIA
jklinne8 6 days ago
"We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area. (A high ranking Air Force officer) said, Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report."
~ Captain Robert Salas - US Air Force, discussing with military pannel the security issues about power loss to missiles as UFO's appeared, reported happening in missile bases in at least 5 states and addresssing the UFO cover-up in a CNN, LKL interview.
jklinne8 6 days ago
(ff2)...ufoism itself grew up to a own pseudo-religion, that has nothing to to with state-secrets, but rather with sociological concerns of govts because exo-ufoistical followers are mostly conspiracy theory believers too - and too much conspiracy mumbo jumbo is able to fry people's brains.
"...in the way you deliberately mischaracterize millions of people in how we view this whole topic..." Yes, Sir! I am fully aware, I injure the exo-religious feelings of millions of exo-ufoistical....
SH0LVA 6 days ago
(ff3)...followers, when a fight against the artificial mystification of UAP. The genuine definition of the acronym UFO as officially issued by the ATIC, 1947, is an airborne object, those identity and origin can't be determined - and nothing else. The exo-youfoolositical mystification has started just after the Adamski-hoax (uncovered by means of forensical analysis by Philip J. Klaas, BTW). Meanwhile, whe have a exo-UFoolOistical multi-billion industry. Even formerly serious TV-stations like...
SH0LVA 6 days ago
(ff3)...History Channel participate, because this business with the stupidity and already menticized UFO-crazies is highly profitable. Since this daunting development hadn't gone unnoticed by the world's govts, they all have released their entire archives of formerly top secret cold war era UFO-files into the public domain. Details about still used advanced military technologies, intelligence sources and methods are exempted, of course. And, of course, this step has no effect for already...
SH0LVA 6 days ago
"A purely psychological explanation is ruled out. The discs show signs of intelligent guidance, by quasi-human pilots. The authorities in possession of important information should not hesitate to enlighten the public as soon and as completely as possible."
~ Carl Gustav Jung- *Founder of modern psychology*
jklinne8 1 week ago
“I change my IP-addresses very often. Therefore the FBI can't locate me.”
~SHOLVA
Posted under "Oakland-UFO-05-26-11.mov"
Uploaded by kevinmc360 on May 27, 2011
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff2)...a ad hominem argument (your miseducation) with the logical fallycy of popularity (lots of people) garnished with an awkward claim (miseducation).
You are mentally sick and you've just lost every reality awareness. Therefore, you should urgently see your psychiatrist. And don't forget to print out this blog and hand the hardcopies over to your doctor. He will immediatly recognize your problems.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Look at how emotional you've become here. You're hurting and I understand why. You have great fears and great paranoia to contend with on a daily basis with your kind of pathology. Sacha, We can all see enough of your state of mind to know that you're the one who's very very sick but you can't get well unless you also gain the help and support you'll need from family or any possible friends you have left who you haven't hurt or betrayed beyond reconciliation. Try before you're all lost.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Wow! I have to admit, I have underestimated your skills to make up fantastic nonsense on a very professional level. You are really good at dreaming up noble bovine excreta of highest quality. Carefully boiled up ad hominem adrguments; unostentatiously garnished with convincing pseudo-psychology. Therefore, you should start your own conspiracy publishing business. Of course, after you will have therapied your menticide. Otherwise, you risk to get sucked in by your own fairy tales.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA As many times as you've admitted to telling lies (basically making up your own fairy tales) and have been caught in lies, you've had no debate here to offer. You see, most of us actually prefer to have proof of claims made about a UFO and your biggest lie is in the way you deliberately mischaracterize millions of people in how we view this whole topic. Apparently, your paranoid delusions have brought nothing but problems i.e. lawsuits from your family members and attention from the FBI.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "...As many times as you've admitted to telling lies..." As an UFO-nut without any background in engineering sciences and intelligence techniques, you are not in the position to detect, when or wheater I tell lies or not. Legitimate (and legal) lies are an accepted means in politics and intelligence agencies to cover-up the same legitimate and legal state secrets. Dangerous and/or military used advanced technologies go into this category - sometimes mistaken for UAP. However exo-...
SH0LVA 6 days ago
(ff4)...already mystified and menticized UFO-nuts, because changing their minds would be for them like apostasy for an Islamist: A capital sin. Therefore, psychiatrists, mental institutions and monkey-chasers have to step in, and like hundreds of other mentally healthy scientists and engineers, my humble self provides a modest contribution to disinfect this planet from superstion, exo-ufoism and perpetua-mobile-adoration.
SH0LVA 6 days ago
@SH0LVA Sorry Mr. FBI fugitive but you're in no position to lecture us about anything at all. There are many cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept UFOs. Look up Washington UFOs 1952. Look up CNN's documentary with military pilot testimony about being ordered to chase and fire on UFOs and the accounts of jets screaming into site after UFO's near G W Bushes Crawford ranch near Stephensville TX. Our government prefers this not be top news...
jklinne8 6 days ago
@jklinne8 "....Mr. FBI fugitive but you're in no position..." LOL! LOL LOL! ROFL! And it continues with your artful presentation of logical fallacies like the argumentum ad hominem.
"...Washington UFOs 1952..." LOL again! Only menticized UFO-nuts reject all reproducable findings (RADAR ghost echo caused by an inversion, plus a photograph that shows lens-flares from the Capitol's lights), since their selective perception prevents them accepting the real, non-youfooloistical reality.
SH0LVA 6 days ago
... To try to lie and pass off all major case UFOs as military secret projects is to say that we have a military that is now at war with itself because there are many documented cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept and even fire on UFOs. Also having nuclear weapons going offline as UFOs appear is a serious national security threat. A government belongs to it’s people and not the other way around..
jklinne8 6 days ago
@jklinne8 "...all major case UFOs..." No matter, how many times you repeat this nonsense, it won't be truer, since no such thing like a 'major UFO case' exists.
"... cases of fighters being scrambled to intercept [...] UFOs..." Cold war era RADAR systems showed indeed strange ghost returns and many fighter jet pilots regularly chase stratopheric balloons or the venus. Since UFO-nuts and their spiritual leaders are ignorant about RADAR-technology, they regularly come forward with these....
SH0LVA 6 days ago
(ff2)...argumentum ignorantiam logical fallacy. Contemporary SAR-, LIDAR/LADAR-, FLIR- and spectrometric sensor systems can identify everything in the airspace with sub-inch accuracy. And inappropriate UAP like e.g. a gone astray MHB over a nuclear power-plants are simply chased away by F-16 fighter jets. You shouldn't forget for a nanosecond, your govt governs you and not vice versa.
You are seriously mentally challenged. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist as soon as possible.
SH0LVA 6 days ago
@SH0LVA Your narcissism is so acute that you don't have the ability to realize how much you injure yourself by your own lies and self-destructive actions. When you lie and mischaracterize me and even millions of regular people, you’ve hurt absolutely no one but yourself. All your ridicule, ad-homenim threats and slander only show you’re lack of education with this topic with desperation for not making any civilized (let alone logical) points.
jklinne8 6 days ago
@jklinne8 "...Your narcissism is so acute..." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! And here we go again: A completly brain-damaged UFO-nut, who attempts to argue mystical exo-ufoistical little green ETs into their existence by pseudo-psychological claims (officially termed as argumentum ad hominem). Yes, by non sequiturs and argumentum ignorantiam, authoritative pseudeo-arguments misrepresentation of misidentified phenomena, everything can be argued into its existence. During the the medieval dark ages, well...
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA An ethical skeptic is someone who can research and cross reference information.. and whether that information proves valid or not, can then be swayed one way or another. A Debunker, on the other hand, will have their own self-biased agendas and ignore research or worse still, sculpt elaborate disinformation and use ridicule to try to hide a lack of a point as well as attempt to dampen interest. You're work for me as the bad guy contrast has amplified my message to more people. Thanks!
jklinne8 5 days ago
@jklinne8 "...An ethical skeptic...." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! It's amazing to read, what UFO-nuts dream up from their bowels (probably their mental processing unit). I am here on a mission with an agenda as stated on my Youtube-sites. Simply accept the fact, I am your monkey-chaser - and you are the monkey. And if you would turn into a public danger, Robert S. Mueller got one reason more to get worried, since his agents are powerless against the public health officer, the DIA, USAF and the AFSPC.
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA ...And we can see that you're powerless against a public health officer, the DIA, USAF the AFSPC and the FBI or you would not have said and I quote:
“I change my IP-addresses very often. Therefore the FBI can't locate me.”
~SHOLVA
Oakland-UFO-05-26-11.mov
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So nope...I think you'll keep working for me until they catch you.
jklinne8 5 days ago
@jklinne8 No matter, how many times you repeat your misrepresented out-of-context quotes and how desperately you attempt to argue your exo-ufoistical wet dreams into their existence - all govts on Sol3 strictly obey the recommendations regarding UAP policies of our litle, unimportant institution. And no matter, how many UFO-nuts I hunt down, I can walk in to the J. Edgar Hoover Building in Washington D.C. - and out; despite I am on the FBI's most wanted list. This is wonderful, isn't it?
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA I doubt it and as long as you keep regurgitating lies I can easily keep repeating the truth. We have no reason to post out of context quotes since it would defeat the purpose of showing the big proplems you have. The fact is that you claim to be hiding from the FBI. Anyone can check that. Tell your psychiatrist about how you feel regarding Sol3 and it's terran humans. He (or she) will help you to understand that you're not an extraterrestrial, among other things very wrong with you.
jklinne8 5 days ago
@jklinne8 It doesn't matter what exactly you dream up, insinuate, confabulate, claim or believe. There is only one important thing: You have to cease sucking in unsuspecting gullible people into the exo-ufoistical marshland.
SH0LVA 5 days ago
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jklinne8 5 days ago
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@SH0LVA LOL...they all sucked me into the interest of this topic and not the other way around..you have an insurmountable task on your hands if you think you can sqelch out the intrest in UFO's.
jklinne8 5 days ago
@SH0LVA BTW...when I say they I also mean my own government reports as well as many the best scientist and military people in the world.
jklinne8 5 days ago
@jklinne8 Of course, for an UFO-nut the '...best scientists and military people in the word..." are those, who are likewise exo-ufoistically misguided and menticized. All govts on Sol3 however hold the view of good, fact- and proof-based science and strictly follow the policy instructions of our little unimportant institution - and my humble self; as indicated on the ufoistical USAF-website on my channel. It is all but a coincidence, within the reach of your govt, terrorists, nuclear...
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA You're trying to tell us that our military and the airlines are flying people around without suitable detectors on the ground or onboard planes to determine whether or not any other thing is the air that they could run into. And this gets even more interesting when the craft being reported are disobeying FAA regulations. Sorry but that’s unacceptable...
jklinne8 6 days ago
(ff2)...paid scholars artfully argued fairies, unicorns, witches into their existence, as millions of ancient Greeks based their faith into Zeus on lightning and thunder and werent aware of the fact, they all were wrong. Nowadays, the superstition spreading industry abuses imperfections of cold war era RADAR systems, sightings of true top secret spy crafts, misidentifications, colored up misidentifications and mispercations to fabricate major UFO cases - per proclamation of course. You should...
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA We already know that you're so miseducated that you'd require a spectrometer taped to your brain just in order to tell a cow from a dog but military pilots and scientist are better trained people than some lesser educated engineer with an inferiorty complex. We've seen massive military and scientific analysis take place in countries like Belgium among others which have concluded that a percentage of UFOs are not explainable as man made or natural things.
jklinne8 5 days ago
Please see your psychiatrist. You suffer from several serious mental disturbances.
SH0LVA 5 days ago
@SH0LVA ...As I've said before...we have at least identified that there are objects flying that our military have been chasing and are very concerned with. They don't know who or what flys them. That's plenty of news right there and worth investigatiing. Your own claims as to what it may have been are worthless without proof for your claims. I've made no claims. National security and flight safety issues need solving.
jklinne8 6 days ago
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
jklinne8 6 days ago
@SH0LVA Major case UFOs like these preceed and go beyond the cold war> 1947 Twining Memo. 1950 Hanford AEC document. 1952 CIA Chadwell Memo. 1953 Oak Ridge Memo. 1954 Maxwell AFB Emergency Memo. 1955 Pepperell AFB Radar-Visual UFO tracking. 1966 Minot AFB UFO Landing Memo. 1967 Malmstron AFB Memo. 1969 Bellender Memo. 1975 NORAD and USAF UFO documents. 1976 DIA Memo (Iranian Jet fighter incident). 1978 State Dept Memo on Bolivian UFO crash. 1981 Halt Memo 1990 DIA documents on Belgian UFO.
jklinne8 6 days ago
Too many UFO Debunker myths and lies are wasting our time and only show proof of ...not wanting open investigations about UFOs. The radar scopes have too many times shown UFOs as clear hits in synchronization with visual confirmation from military or airline pilots. Most people polled today don’t believe that thousands of highly trained military pilots and airline pilots are telling myths and neither do the radar specialists that recorded all the hits on their scopes...
jklinne8 6 days ago
...People have already had access to potentially dangerous energy forms like nuclear energy so it sounds rather sinister when a questionable figure suggest that disclosure must be delayed because most people are not responsible enough with new energy discoveries. But if anyone's hoarding clean energy secrets and claiming it's for our own good, who can really trust them after taking a hard look around at this world...
jklinne8 6 days ago
...For Americans there has been a study erosion of trust of the government for about the past 30 or 40 years. The knowledge that our government was not being honest began in the 1960's when the war in south east Asia escalated with secret bombing champagnes in Cambodia. In the 1980s arms were sold to support the Contra anti communist in Nicaragua in violation of US law and without public knowledge. So our government is no stranger to keeping the wrong kind of secrets....
jklinne8 6 days ago
...And I would finally add that if our government (or any other) had the kind of technology that our own military pilots have been intermittently engaged with since world war 2 to date hat we could have instantly won any war we with it.
“There are people who said they saw things and whenever that happens they deserve at least n investigation.”
~ Senator John McCain being asked about UFO’s in a radio interview on KFYI Phoenix, Arizona June 25, 1997
jklinne8 6 days ago
As for myself, I do not to draw any conclusions as to what UFOs represent but simply want them properly investigated to determine it. People we entrust with our lives such as the military and airline pilots are not reporting aliens but UFOs. These reports obviously require serious regard and investigation and yet disinformation agents continue to try (and have failed) to explain or solve major UFO cases.
jklinne8 1 week ago
“lawsuits from relatives aren't extraordinary things for me.”
~ SH0LVA
Posted under: “BBC News: Alien hunters - An array of hope”
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 LOL! LOL! LOL! Whenever you run out of exo-youfooloistical pseudo-arguments, you always flip into the ad hominem attack-mode and quote out-of context quotes, come forward with ad hominem arguments (a well known exo-UFoolOistical logical fallacy), or, you start to strenghten your exo-ufoistical faith by quoting artificially mystified cold war era ufoistical nonsense. That's the mental operating system function set of all UFO-nuts; nobody takes seriously. Please see your psychiatrist.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA I didn't hurt you with your own words. You did it yourself so calm your little emotions down. You're projecting again when you're the one who needs psychiatric care. As for the rest, I always get the last laugh since major UFO events have been happening well before and well after the cold war. I'll try to educate you since you lack the understanding that UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object" and therefor every UFO is a mystery until it's solved, thus they are mysterious by definition.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "...every UFO is a mystery until it's solved...." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! You made my day! We have it again, the mother of all exo-ufoistical logical fallacies, the ancient Romans termed «argumentum ad ignorantiam» (engl. argument from ignorance). In simple words: Whenever a dipstick is too stupid to make himself familiar with unicorns, then these mythological creatures remain real for him - however only for him. Please see your psychiatrist. You are seriously mentally damaged.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Again I get the last laugh as you've made lots of people laugh at your miseducation. UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object" and therefor a UFO is a mystery until it's solved, thus UFOs are mysterious by definition. When you prove what a UFO is then it's not longer an "Unidentified" Flying Object and then no longer a mystery. Today plenty of major case UFOs remain a mystery and that's why they are called "UFOs". Projecting to others what you actually need won't help you get well either.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "...Again I get the last laugh as..." LOL! LOL! LOL! ROFL! You just start becoming really good at well known logical fallacies! This time, you've caught the «Galileo-Gamit» - a special case of the fallacy called Non Sequitur: You make your own definitions ("...UFOs are mysterios by definition...") and attempt to position yourself as an authoritative exo-UFoolOisitical scholar. "... lots of people laugh at your miseducation...." An awesome bunch of paralogism: You managed to combine..
SH0LVA 1 week ago
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"Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows."
~SH0LVA Posted right here under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
jklinne8 1 week ago
Debunkers have failed for decades to explain major UFO cases like these> 1949 FBI UFO memo Top Secret 1950 Hanford AEC document 1952 CIA Chadwell memo 1953 Oak Ridge memo 1954 Maxwell AFB Emergency memo 1955 Pepperell AFB Radar-Visual UFO tracking 1966 Minot AFB UFO Landing memo 1967 Malmstron AFB memo 1969 Bellender memo 1975 NORAD and USAF UFO documents 1976 DIA memo Iranian Jet fighter incident 1978 State Dept. memo on Bolivian UFO crash 1981 Halt memo 1990 DIA documents on Belgian UFO
jklinne8 1 week ago
«No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs than you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this statement.»
~ Philip J. Klass, 1983
PS: Of course, UFO-nuts can't understand the subtle irony.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Again the reason Klass was unrequited and upset throughout his life by not knowing more about UFOs correlated with the fact he had only an engineer degree. He wasn't as mentally equipped for forming logical hypothesis like higher educated scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist have which I quote. I guess this means you'll lie and remain an easy target with people like Shermer, Clark, Klass, and any similar of poorer standing.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 You are mentally damaged. Therefore, you are unable to follow a factual discussion and to comprehend scientific logic. Instead, you permanently replace facts against faith. Please see your psychiatrist. If I would come to the conclusion, you were a public danger, I arranged an appointment for you. This experience however will change your life.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
“I'm on the FBI's most wanted list”
~SH0LVA
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jklinne8 1 week ago
«No UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security. There was no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge; and there was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.»
~ Dr. Edward U. Condon, 1969
SH0LVA 1 week ago
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"The little green boy was so cute!"
"SH0LVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
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"Have you ever considered to use the Pope's pear to get back your senses?"
~ "SHOLVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
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jklinne8 1 week ago
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"The little green boy was so cute!"
"SH0LVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
Posted under:
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"Have you ever considered to use the Pope's pear to get back your senses?"
~ "SHOLVA" AKA debrainwasher and many other user names
Posted under:
"I Hate Being Gay - Tyra (Part 1)"
dahur 1 week ago
«Lots of people continue to believe that the release of these [UK MoD UFO] files is just a whitewash and the government is concealing the fact that we are not alone in the universe. There is nothing you can do to disprove this -- no matter how many files are released, if people don't see what they want in the files, they don't believe it's the truth.»
~Dr. David Clarke, 8/2011
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA "Although I take a skeptical stance, I remain open-minded about the possibility that some “UFOs” might have an exotic origin"
~Dr. David Clarke
Position Statement from: “Flying saucery presents-The Real UFO Project”
David goes into his complete biography for all to view. His specialty is journalism and not science.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 LOL! Verbs like 'might', 'could' and 'would' express a conjunctive mood - and not a fact. The hard fact is, since 64 years, not one single UAP sighting with sufficient data has been attributed as something else than a unrecognized or misidentified natural or man made phenomenon. It's certainly not a terribly bad idea for you to pray twice a day Dr. Edward Condon's conclusion and Philip Klaas' ufoistical axiom.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Governments are made up of lots of people who would mostly disagree with very much of what you rant and you're not eligible for the kinds of things they know and deal with today. You're not even eligible to handle your own reality. My own government thinks you're a total idiot and so do I. I see they have the FBI after you now. Wow..I'm so glad I don't have your tragic kind of life. Good luck to you anyway with all your troubles.
jklinne8 1 week ago
"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."
~ Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 According to all serious UFO-studies [e.g. UK MoD UAPReport, 2001, Condon 1969], all known UAP-sightings (those with sufficient data) are found being unrecognized or misidentified natural or man made phenomena. Without exception. Since mentally damaged UFO-nuts are too stupid to accept this fact, they always recycle ufoistical cold war era stuff (then top secret spy-crafts) and waste lots of time, money and energy to prevent the exo-youfooloistical myth to die its deserved death.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
(ff2)...After governements around Sol3 (the earth) had recognized the harmful nature of the activities of UFO-nuts, they all demonstratively shut down publicly funded UAP-research and released their entire archives of UFO-files into the public domain. Since then, engineers, marksmen, public health officers and intelligence agencies are the only entities, who are able to keep UFO-nuts covered and to neutralize them, whenever required.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
“Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows.”
~SH0LVA Posted under: "The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1"
jklinne8 1 week ago
"I am not a fag."
~"SHOLVA"
Posted under:
"New Mexico UFO crash documentary (part 3)"
dahur 1 week ago 2
@dahur Have you ever considered to engage the Pope's Pear to come to your right senses?
This nasty device is completely different from the godemichet made from silicone rubber, you are used to use for ET-probe games with your boyfriend jklinne8, aka lllwindrunner.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@dahur LOL!
jklinne8 1 week ago
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jklinne8 1 week ago
"In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My text books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physicist to learn about the unified field theory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out there, perhaps even visited, perhaps on our moon. - ABC News Quote
~ Professor Michio Kaku, Author of Theoretical Physics UNY
jklinne8 1 week ago 2
(ff2)...means of HUMINT. Since UFO nuts are obsessed with (apparent) credibility regaring the topic of their menticide, I decrease my own apparent credibility on the lowest possible level. This allows me to dish up the truth that appears being a lie, or vice versa, or to dillute the truth with lies beyond recognition. The resulting confusion strengthens the exo-ufoistical faith of my victims; so they become an easy meat for the public health officer (we term the monkey-catcher).
SH0LVA 1 week ago
“The FBI wants to strap my humble self down to the lethal injection gurney for a while.”
~SH0LVA
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jklinne8 1 week ago 2
@jklinne8 “...The FBI wants to strap my humble self down to the lethal injection gurney..." That's not exactly correct. The FBI is literally overwhelmed by hundreds of criminal complaints from UFO-nuts and their relatives, since I often commission the monkey-catcher. Therefore Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, additionally wants to strap me into the electric chair, put me on the firing squad chair, deliver me into the gas chamber and lead me on the gallows. All at the same time, of course.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA "The FBI wants to strap my humble self down to the lethal injection gurney" is an exact quote your from you're very own post. I think I'll take your advice and just relax now as I watch you continue to do fight with yourself.
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff3)...systematically misguide their gullible audience, whenever i) many people saw a UAP, ii) a UAP report sounds fantasitic, iii) the available data is insufficient enough, exo-UFoolOistical spiritual leaders can claim anything that sound plausible at first glance.
"...[you] claim things of no proof..." A proof is required for an extraordinary, positive statement. Already proven facts or informational statements are never subjected to a proof, since the consistency can be validated e.g...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
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@jklinne8 "....you continue to do fight with yourself...." I have simply defined the feelings of Robert Mueller (Director of the FBI) against my humble self more precisely.
You suffer from multiple mental disorders. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
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dahur 1 week ago 2
«No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs than you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this statement.»
~ Philip J. Klass, 1983
PS: Of course, UFO-nuts can't understand the subtle irony.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA I think the reason Klass was unrequited and upset throughout his life by not knowing more about UFOs correlated with the fact he had only an engineer degree. He wasn't as mentally equipped for forming logical hypothesis like higher educated scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist have which I quote. I guess this means you'll lie and remain an easy target with people like Shermer, Clark, Klass, and any similar of poorer standing.
jklinne8 1 week ago 2
@jklinne8 "...I think the reason Klass was unrequited and upset..." LOL! LOL LOL! ROFL! Only UFO-nuts, who rely their judgement on half-truths, misinterpretations, misrepresentations and their own scientific ignorance are able to claim such a nonsense. Although I accept, your menticide prevents you from any unbiased thinking regarding the UAP-topic, I can tell you, Klaas had a very satisfied life; lthough, he was «only» a graduated electrical engineer and not a high ranking youfooloist.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Look again. Klass was no fountain of proof and was obviously upset that he was never able to solve any major case UFO or have any leg to stand on for his clearly emotional words. So he could only complain and whine like you. Even you're no more than a claimed to be engineer and claim things of no proof. Rest well assured there are people out there with technical knowledge of things your never going to have access to. It's always been that way and always will be. You're nothing special.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "...Klass was no fountain of proof..." Only in exo-ufoisms, people can play the role of fountains of proof. It takes a very high ranking exo-ufoistical spiritual leader, who authorizes a highly credible UFO-nut to turn his claim into the state of a proof. In ordinary science however, a proof is never attached to a particular person, but to a finding. Otherwise, the scientific rules of evidence (accessibility, verifiability, unambiguity and repeatability) can't be accomplished.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
(ff2)..."...[Klaas]...was never able to solve any major case UFO..." That's wrong. Please read his books, in that he uncovers hundreds of misidentifications, misperceptions and hoaxes. Bibliography: [ISBN 0-394-45003-5, ISBN 0-394-46972-0, ISBN 0-394-49215-3, ISBN 0-87975-322-6, ISBN 0-87975-509-1, ISBN 1-57392-148-3, ISBN 1-57392-164-5]
Beside, no such thing like a 'major UFO case' has ever existed. This is an invention of the exo-youfooloistical conspiracy publishing industy, who....
SH0LVA 1 week ago
(ff4)...from a textbook. Uneducated and mentally damaged UFO-nuts however are mostly at the bottom line of the educational food-chain. Therefore, they can't verify e.g. a mathematical or physical statement like dsin(x)/dx=cos(x) or ▼·B=0. Also a common profession doesn't need a proof. I have never claimed being a unicorn breeder.
"...You're nothing special..." It doesn't matter who I am and what I do. My agenda is to inform people and deliver dangerous UFO-nuts into mental institutions.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 I'm going to repeat it again: You are not eligible for any knowledge regarding UAP, that isn't already released by FOIA, FOI or a similar law into the public domain, since you are mentally challengend and you can't cope with this matter. Once more, I ask you officially to see your psychiatrist. The same accounts for your boyfriend dahur.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA I'm going to repeat that you're the one not eligible for anything other than to be a criminal. Trust my government and turn yourself in to the FBI. They will keep you safe from the truth that you can't handle accordingly.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Please print this conversation, see your psychiatrist and hand the printouts over to him.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Most psychiatrist looking into a print out at your ranting comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and paranoid schizophrenia. It is suggested that you get treatment or turn yourself over to the FBI.
jklinne8 1 week ago
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@SH0LVA Most psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia. It is suggested that you get treatment ASAP or turn yourself over to the FBI.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Why bother? I have no need of one. Besides...Any psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia and I suggest that you get treatment ASAP or... turn yourself over to the FBI.
jklinne8 1 week ago
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@SH0LVA Why bother? I have no need of one. Besides...Any psychiatrist looking into a print out at your comments would only agree that you suffer from psychotic delusions and acute paranoid schizophrenia and I suggest that you get treatment ASAP or... turn yourself over to the FBI.
jklinne8 1 week ago
"The negative claims of pseudo-skeptics who offer facile explanations must themselves be subject to criticism. If a competent witness reports having seen something tens of degrees of arc in size (as happens) and the scoffer, who of course was not there -- offers Venus or a high altitude weather balloon as an explanation, the requirement of extraordinary proof for an extraordinary claim falls on the proffered negative claim as well."
~ Bernard Haisch, Astrophysicist.
jklinne8 1 week ago
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After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
jklinne8 1 week ago
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After the Condon report, the next year in 1970 with a much larger team including lots of qualified scientist came this>
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from its content, namely that a phenomenon with such a high rate of unexplained cases (about 30%) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
~ The prestigious American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Professional society of the aerospace industry regarding the failed Edward Condon Report.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8
He spammed this out. so that means you hurt him....lol. He really is crying isn't he...?
dahur 1 week ago
@dahur He's hurt himself by all he's done here with threats, user name forgery, and spamming people, all of which reveal his weakness, cowardice, and ignorance.
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff2)...the UK-govt to shut down the public office immediatly. I forwarded the same posts to the city council of Denver. After reading your and dahur's posts, they decided to shoot down Peckman's exo-youfooloistical initiative.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA LOL excellent..We know people like the FBI and others can look into the history of your faked out version of a lllwindrunner and jklinne8 accounts in which you were using other characters (lower case L's and upper case i's look similar) which looked liked the original account and which you also then used to threaten people with and can be found on Youtube records. Bury yourself in your problems while we sit back and enjoy the show!
jklinne8 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Oh And BTW..I won't have to change my IP address like you've said you have to do to hide from the FBI so any post from me will check out just fine.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 LOL! Why should I be touched by nonsense, UFO-crazies expel? Since I am in the fortunate position, I can rely on my military intelligence training, I can cope with of all sorts of attacks. The one and only reason, I spend so much time to provoke you and your boyfriend daher is, you are the most valuable useful idiots - always ready to write a witty post, political decision makers perceive as a proof, the general populace should be kept out of the loop of sensitive knowledge.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA
“lawsuits from relatives aren't extraordinary things for me.”
~ SH0LVA
Posted under: “BBC News: Alien hunters - An array of hope”
I totally believe that's not a lie. Like I've said befor, It's not really about just UFOs with you. It's about a very wide range of topics that you also harrass people about. So you can drop this big UFO front anytime you wish. It's not working as an excuse for your over-all illness.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "... It's not really about just UFOs with you. It's about a very wide range of topics..." That's correct. Exo-ufoism is only one facet. Please go to the «debrainwasher» account and read my mission agenda. Everthing is laid out there.
Altough my relation with the FBI isn't very warm-hearted, becuase hundreds of criminal complaints of UFO-nut's relatives are pending, I can assure you, they won't arrest me, since I am protected by other agencies. Remember, you have still no idea, who...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA "I can assure you, they won't arrest me, since I am protected by other agencies"
Then why hide? LOL...Get real. You're not protected, you're a criminal on the run.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 If the US govt wanted to arrest me, they could locate my humble self within about 50ms. That's about the time, the NSA needs to geolocate any TCP/IP.connection by the Echelon network. And unsurprisingly, one of Echelon's main nodes sits in Leuk, Switzerland. For simple economical reasons, I evade every criminal and civil complaint from UFO-nut's relataives. And we talk about a lot of money. Whenever a UFO-nut is delivered into a mental institution by a public health officer, his...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA You're the very definition of a UFO nut. I simply share the same stance as millions upon millions do in not claiming what UFOs are but just wanted them investigated. You'll never shut that interest down no matter how hard you try or how long you live. The mystery doesn't hurt me in the slightest. It's a facinating topic to millions and millions of us along side of other things we enjoy. I guess all the famous ufologist out there must make you loose sleep at night. You need to get well.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 If you wouldn't be a UFO-nut, you could understand, i) all air-forces on this planet are tasked with the monitoring of their air-spaces by instruments, you can't even spell, ii) air-space intrusion detections, identifications and interceptions are a matter of air-forces and not UFO-nuts, iii) there are many classified aerial operation, not intended for the general populace. Therefore, 'open investigations' are as inappropriate like a hamster in a microwave oven.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA
“Too pushy UAP are simply chased away by F-16's. Decoy flares create literally enough confusion, the incident fades away quickly.”
~ SH0LVA AKA “debrainwasher” Talking about how UFO’s are covered up. Posted under: “UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record - Leslie Kean (Pt.1) 8-15-2010”
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff2)...but they appreciate my humble contributions to neutralize annoying UFO-nuts and conspiracy crazies, I can enter and leave America without any problems - as far as I don't hand over blue-prints of the Ghost Hawk (or other related technologies) to China.
Therefore, you can be relaxed and go on writing exo-ufoistical posts - or, you can see your psychiatrist to therapy your menticide.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Sacha, Wake up. There are people out there with technical knowledge about things that you're never ever going to find out about. You're not even special even if you're not telling lies here about such a propulsion system. So get over yourself.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Whenever a miseducated know-all UFO-nut believes, he can rebuke graduated electrical engineers, so he has necessaraly heralded the truth. At least the virtual reality truth. No matter what you believe, your position won't be canged and your exo-ufoistical faith won't show any impact on your daily life. You are mentally sick. Therefore, you should see your psychiatrist, while I go on to contribute to protect you from the truth, you can't handle accordingly. That's a fair labor division.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Sorry but there's nothing all that special about electrical engineers, cabaret artist, journalist or the lower ranking military that you hold up as all knowing of UFOs and so well educated. I prefer to quote scientist of theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, leading aerodynamicists, mathematical physicist, CIA, military leaders, government officials and even some presidents but you can't. Your only transparently defeated option is to call them all crazy. Have fun with that strategy. : )
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Despite your obvious misconception of the academical education system, you can quote as many UFO-crazies (percieved as authoritative scientists) as you want, everything regarding artificially mystified exo-ufoism plays in your fantasy only - without any impact to your daily life. Like the medieval misbelief that grew around unicorns, the exo-ufoistical misbelief will last for centuries. Since Philip J. Klaas saw trough the exo-youfooloistic business, he issued his famous axiom.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA As for you and truth, there is no such thing as those 2 things combined and
you can't even protect yourself from your own illness let alone recognize it. I pity you.
“I tell lies in accordance with the official policy I obey due to my insights”.
~ SH0LVA Posted under: UFO Multiple activity over Melbourne Australia June 2nd 2011 uploaded by- loucanola on Jun 2, 2011
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 "...As for you and truth..." Since UFO-, conspiracy- and free energy nuts are mostly located at the bottom end of the educational food chain, they can't distinct facts from lies, since their mental capabilities are limited to their miseducation, gut feelings and faith. My agenda consists from i) information of people about superstitious but widespread misbeliefs, ii) protection of the general populace from the truth, they can't handle accordingly. To perform this job, I use accepted...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA Your agenda consist of being a mentally ill failure and that's about it.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8
I agree. I forwarded his most recent rant to the Tigris. And the American Embassy/legal attache in Switzerland.
dahur 1 week ago
@dahur Good job.
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff2)...I am really. And that's intended. So be a good boy, continue to take encouragement from ET-probe games with your boyfriend dahur and go on writing exo-ufoistical YouTube-posts I can harvest and forward to parliamentarians and senators of western govts. It's still a small step for you, but a huge leap for humanity.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
“Don't cant! You benefit personally from cheaper gas- and fuel prices, when our strategies to inflame and maintain civil wars in the middle-eastern region relieve the economical pression, and govts and their cititzens there depopulate themselves.”
~ SH0LVA
To verify context - Posted under: The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1
We're all still trying to figure out what “pression” and "Don't can't!" is suppose to mean. I sure the pariamentarians and senators just loved that quote!
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff2)...family loses their income. Therefore civil compensation lawsuits regularly exceed the $1 million limit. Currently, no lawyer has ever managed to enforce a habeas corpus against me. Without conviction, your claim, being a criminal is simply wrong. So I have no reason to cease my attempts to take dangerous UFO- and conspiracy nuts off the streets by YouTubes convenient anti-rampage emergency protocol.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA LOL! The fact is, if you're wanted by the FBI as you've claimed, then your wanted by the US government for a crime, thus, you're a criminal and also a self deluded psychotic for not even understanding that.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Theoretically, the US govt could condemn me to death for treason according to 18 U.S.C §2381, because I have the technical knowledge about propulsion principle and the power plant of the silent host Hawk «helicopter» and its detection principle, and, I've already offered this knowledge to a Chinese colonel - after China had failed to grab the destroyed flying machine from Abbottabad in May 2011. Since the US MOD (The Pentagon) isn't very keen on a public exposure if this technology,...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
UFOs mean "unidentified flying object" and these unidentified things are going into our countries most restricted air spaces. There are hundreds of witness testimony by USA military personal, many of which are the same people with codes for launching ICBMs reporting that these unidentified things have appeared and then all power to launch missiles has gone out. So whether it’s some mass military insanity or something else- either way is the absolute biggest of news deserving of investigations.
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 UFOs mean "unidentified flying object" for somebody, who is either not familiar with a particular aerial phenomenon or the circumstances are unusual, or his scientific ignorance prevents him from the use of appropriate scientific instruments to discover the true nature behind a UAP sighting. Air-forces however have trained personnel and instruments to monitor their air-space and the ability to identify or intercept real airspace violators. Simply trust your govt. They keep you safe.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
My government thinks you're an idiot and wants you to stop trying to run. Trust them and turn yourself in.
“Yes, the FBI is looking for me"
~ SH0LVA
Posted under : The Roswell UFO Air Force News Briefing (FULL) PART 1
Uploaded by knightskross on May 17, 2010
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 You are not only an (useful) idiot indeed, but seriously mentally disturbed and damaged. Please see your psychiatrist as soon as possible and don't forget your medication. If you experienced any mental difficulties, I would suggest to see a priest and ask him for the Pope's Pear. It's the perfect contraption to give up your addiction to godemichets from silicone rubber, mistaken for the golden, mind-enlighting ET-probe.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA My government doesn't agree with you.
“I'm on the FBI's most wanted list”
~SH0LVA
posted under: “White House ET/UFO disclosure petition: Sign and make it go viral! -- Steve Bassett”
jklinne8 1 week ago
@jklinne8 Your govt agrees very well with me. The FBI however has a little different stance. Since I don't exterminate UFO-nuts, but let them deliver into mental instituations by the public health officer, they are faced with loads of criminal complaints from the affected UFO-crazies and/or their relatives. However, there are good news. I've developped a new UFO-nut neutralization device. In fact it's a 1"x2' tube made from stainless steel with about 10 transversal incisions placed in a 20° ...
SH0LVA 1 week ago
(ff2)...angle to the tube's axis. The front side of the tube is equipped with a tripple caterpillar drive - powered by a small LiPo-battery. Placed on the anus of any dangerous UFO-nut, the device will find its way into his body (even through clothes). Once in position, the drive's polarity becomes reversed. Now, the incisions of the tube behave like barbs and carve into the bowel of the victim. The dangerous UFO-crazy dies his deserved death from exsanguination within a couple minutes.
SH0LVA 1 week ago
@SH0LVA The FBI is a part of and under the control of the united states government. If my government agreed with you, you'd have no reason to run away from them. But since you're a criminal in there eyes, you're confessing to also be on the run.
“I change my IP-addresses very often. Therefore the FBI can't locate me.”
~SH0LVA
Oakland-UFO-05-26-11.mov
Uploaded by kevinmc360 on May 27, 2011
jklinne8 1 week ago
(ff3)....If you want to try the new device, it can be arranged.
SH0LVA 1 week ago