@turtledream82 I was wondering if it did or not. We can all rest easy now knowing that this music indeed "sucks". Thank you for your wonderful and well versed insight.
My dance teacher showed us this video at our dance intensive while learning about modern dance and different styles.she made all of the younger dancers leave because she knew it was so emotional and comes off as creepy to some people.but I'm 15 and I thought it was a great interpretation of the pain Japan's people were put through.amazing.
One of the Tamano's, a infamous couple who brought Butoh to America, said this weekend that it is up (paraphrasing) "to the audience to create the story, the dancer just dances" As a Butoh practitioner, i feel both room for interpretation, and a firm grasp on the energy involving the dance, are pertinent.
The question for you is, did you feel anything from watching this?
Saw this today during World Dance History and thought that it was good but very creepy. Was wondering if anyone knows what they are dancing about... It kinda made me think about what it would have been like after the atomic bombs were dropped. am i right in thinking that?
Seriously, did I just watch Silent Hill meets Swan Lake or something? This has to be some sort of outsider art because there is no way on Earth that the mentally stable will get this.
well put henrypacker. most choreographers and dancers these days are very interested in how people respond emotionally to their work, but are not upset or disappointed when people infer emotions that the artist did not intentionally create. the unanticipated emotional responses actually tend to be praised instead of shunned. So this dance "means" only as much as it emotionally effects you. take whatever you want from it, and that will be the "correct" interpretation.
@Wiiimzy . No one should take you for ignorant. Ignorant people don't question. In fact, I believe that's what the dance is about. When you watch, it provokes the question 'what does it mean?' or the statement 'I don't understand'. Maybe there is a plot. And maybe some interpreter can explain it, but I'm more interested in my reaction. For me, the dance isn't about understanding; it's about sensation. It succeeds by making us ask. Which means it worked for you.
@HenryPacker Exactly. Interpretations, symbols, meaning, quantifying. Generally we have too rigid a form of understanding in the literal and figurative realms. Just be here. Just experience.
@HenryPacker There is nothing wrong with being ignorant, but being ignorant and not realizing it is idiocy.
Butoh is centered around a concept and everything has a profound meaning, it emerged from the early 60's as a form of protest, so it's meaning had to be clear. A lot is being recycled from other performances, and it evolved into a complex language of movements and expressions.
It's not just some esoteric and abstract random crap for pseudo intellectuals.
@Wiiimzy This genre of dance, Butoh, was created by Kazuo Ohno and Tatsumi Hijikata, they were moved by the happenings in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, and so, created a way of portraying the things happening after them. You could say that the movements intend to portray the survivors of the bombs, they were mostly naked, their skin torn apart and charred, walking around in pain, that's probably why they call it the dance of darkness. They're mostly movements driven by raw emotion.
@Wiiimzy there is no right or wrong way to interpret this, just observe what you see and wat you feel where it touches you the real story happens inside
@Wiiimzy Butoh is the collective name for a diverse range of activities, techniques and motivations for dance, performance, or movement inspired by the Ankoku-Butoh movement. It typically involves playful and grotesque imagery, taboo topics, extreme or absurd environments, and is traditionally performed in white body makeup with slow hyper-controlled motion, with or without an audience. There is no set style, and it may be purely conceptual with no movement at all...
@Wiiimzy ...Some say that butoh is defined by its very evasion of definition. The Kyoto Journal variably categorizes butoh as dance, theater, “kitchen,” or “seditious act.” The San Francisco Examiner describes butoh as "unclassifiable" (“strangest, most unclassifiable, and most haunting").
But I think what it is is that it is just another form of self-expression.
@Wiiimzy glad to reply. this is not simple stuff. being japanese theater, a lot of what you are seeing is an elegantly restrained form of expression. butoh, this form of dance, is a form of modern performance dance that resisted influence from western dance disciplines. you are seeing a mix of japanese traditional theater, many of those rules still in place and how those traditional forms can still be directly associated with modern styles. this is masterful stuff.
@Wiiimzy your not ment tounderstand the dance your ment to have idea's of what i could be thats the point of butoh thay have a story to it but that dont show it you have to look at it and interpret it for your self
@Wiiimzy your not ment tounderstand the dance your ment to have idea's of what i could be thats the point of butoh thay have a story to it but that dont show it you have to look at it and interpret it for your self. and then thay look up into the sky its a Hiroshima bombs going off and then that drop there fingers down its there skin melting from the heat of the bomb
@Wiiimzy from what little i know about the form, it developed Japan in response to WWII--the grotesque faces mimic images of people being bombed. So they might be praying, although it also suggests to me watching bombs or airplanes
Butoh is a very complex form of physical theater. It is not easy for Americans to understand partly because it is so painfully slow. To explain Butoh on this forum is impossible. I say google it .It is really amazing,but certainly not for everyone.
@Wiiimzy You might find it useful to actually look up the history of Butoh. I believe, as a movement, it came as a reaction to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and it's very existentialist. It may not explain this specific dance, but it may help you understand where the aesthetic is coming from.
@Wiiimzy Its not meant to be understood rationally or even understood at all, you have to see it as an experience, an event. There is no conventional narrative to try and follow. Once you suspend your mind from seeking a story or working out whats going on, then your reaction to it will be much more powerful.
@Wiiimzy "The biggest mistake a dancer can make is to think. You have to FEEL." (Michael Jackson)
Only you know how to interpret what you are seeing, and what it means to you. Art is subjective, and that's the beauty of it. And on the contrary to what some people seem to think; art doesn't have to be "pretty" in order to be good. You can be disgusted, scared, or even repulsed; and it can still be a good thing. As long as a piece has made you feel, period, it has served its purpose.
@Wiiimzy They are expressing their feelings and making body movements that coincide with their understanding and interpretation of the world. Please google butoh…I celebrate the grotesque, for it is much more complex, amusing and diverse then beauty.
@Wiiimzy The Butoh dancing comes from Japan after the "beautiful" USA attack with their atomic bombs, the japanesse didn't knew how to protest, so they created this dancing, in a Butoh dancing you talk about energy, you talk about environment, you talk about violence, about the lose from our own corp, about the violence, about people, about the time....with all this and more the use of the voice has no sense so the silence, the corporal expresion and the facial expresions ar the perfect language
@titOskuUn Well, it was a war, right? Japanese forces attacked first after all. And if they had the atomic bomb before 1944 , they would use it for sure (and consequently won). Not defending Usa, but truth need to be told.
@crieiessacontaagora okay, but you need to consider more than just the timeline of events. you're not considering that this form came from the streets, from the people, not the empire and its army. the Japanese empire started the war that lead to the catastrophe that was the atomic bomb. that doesn't mean the entirety of Japan's people was behind the war, or especially its ending. As far as truth being told? You're looking at it. This is nuclear war.
@IanCardoni I was not referring to the people of Japan or the Butoh stuff. Of course civilians can't be responsible for such thing, I was not saying that. Just read the comment of "titOskuUn" and then my reply. Or I'm missing something?
@crieiessacontaagora You might be missing the fact that not everyone has the same perspective on what defines a nation. Nations are just an idea to make people think in a certain way, but in reality the US and Japan are only names on a paper.
So, in my opinion you're both wrong because the discussion is as foolish as any other religious debate. But I think we can both agree that dropping bombs on people is not cool. :-)
@noxure Sounds funny when you try to explain what nations are when you previously said that not everyone has the same perspective of what nations are. Kind of hypocrite
Anyway I don't really look at my "discussion" with him as foolish as any other religious debate, so yeah we disagree at that part (mostly because our "discussion" does not have anything with religion at all). I don't know why you pushed the "dropping bombs" part either, but I agree with you in that case. :)
@crieiessacontaagora I didn't emphasize that this was my perspective to illustrate my previous statement, because I thought it was obvious.
People anthropomorphise nations as entities, similarly to how they did with gods. Nationality is the now paradigm that defines our identity in most parts of the earth, except in the Islamic world. But I think we should reject this paradigm also and evolve even further. It's a bit too complex to explain it all in a Youtube comment. :-)
@noxure It was far from obvious for me but whatever
I still don't know why you're saying this much about your feelings and thoughts though. All I did was reply to someone who blame the U.S. for the bombs when, in fact, they're not the only to blame. if you deny that both the U.S. and Japan are considered nations, then there's something wrong with you.
@noxure Did I meant to? I don't remember asking for any of your pundits about the nations and stuff, you started to philosophizing and I didn't tried for real. But hey, let's say that I don't understand; may turn your arguments more valuable than mine, I think.
@noxure if you care, "nationality" like ethnicity and race, is also considered these days an "imaginary community" and in a developmental view it is between egocentrism and world-centrism...the nation-state as a structure of identity. we need to move beyond ethnocentrism and nationalism, but it isn't totally bad because it expands one's identity and care to include people the don't even know, something larger. Nationality is a step towards worldcentrism, one that cannot be skipped, in theory.
@Wiiimzy i think your understanding of it will come of its own accord. from personal experience, trying to understand a piece hasn't always been helpful because that's merely my logical mind trying to put something in terms that the ego can grasp. but logic and art don't necessarily go hand in hand. i'd say be more aware of what your experience is, how it makes you feel, those sensations come from your gut and the rest of your body, not your head. dreams are like that for me too.
well, most of you have no clue what butoh is, right?
it's art and it's beautiful. and btw a lot of Japanese people do not even know butoh so please stop saying stuff like "crazy Japan" as if a sub-genre of dance stands for all Japanese. and now please go ahead and tell me how stupid I am, I do not expect you people to say anything else...
@JuHeiable ...People should really read more about BUTOH and the essence of this art form. Sad really when you see comments of some who duno anything about ART.
@blakscull El arte del siglo XXI debe forzosamente tomar aspectos de éste y otras ramas artísticas para florecer. Se acuerdan de mí cuando eso ocurra. Grandioso Sankai Juku
can some one explain to mee what this is please and is it linked to the devil by anychance becasue these looks really creepy to mee ... if some one asked to explain this i wouldnt be able to because it looks UNexplainable ... THanks
I have to say there physical motion does mimic something that has very strange ascetic to it. In a way I actually feel fearful watching them I am not the type who is easily scared either. Their facial expression are very strange threw this entire video but they appear they are experiencing both pain, pleasure, and fear.
They strike me immediately as resembling victims of the atomic bomb. With a performance like this, it's perhaps not fair to say, "oh, it seems to be about Hiroshima," but the aesthetics of butoh are informed quite a lot by the desolation, the human carnage, and the 'silence' of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombs. They look charred and ashen, don't you think?
@georges3601 that is in fact Ohno & Tatsumi's origins of this dance style. Did you know this or was it an observation? Very astute of you if it was observed.
Sankai Juku is really one of the best Butoh Dance groups I've ever seen. Their astonishing sychronicity gives the performance an we-are-all-one effect and let the auditorium become part of it - amazing!
SOPOR AETERNUS?
soporaeternus3000 2 weeks ago
WHAT MALEVOLENT ELDRITCH ABOMINATION ARE THEY SUMMONING???
1Shalnark1 3 weeks ago
such elegance
such power
such horrible splendorous decay
a celebration of death and of agony
truly this is the art of the modern world
truly this is the art of the apocalypse
Frater418 1 month ago
This is Intuitive, abstract, body reaction Beauty.
chevnic01 1 month ago
Wow they look like pinhead from hell raiser.
googlePaladin 2 months ago
it:s nice::::::to dance! snks deaikai!
Amano266 2 months ago
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Amano266 2 months ago
it;s nice...to dance!
Amano266 2 months ago
The music's great...so is everything else.
Blogdoovian 3 months ago
AMAZING!
bencopy888 4 months ago
the music sucks.
turtledream82 4 months ago
@turtledream82 I was wondering if it did or not. We can all rest easy now knowing that this music indeed "sucks". Thank you for your wonderful and well versed insight.
Zeraziel 4 months ago 2
suggestivo
DrHeckill 4 months ago
Excellent...anyone know who does the music?
jdmapple 5 months ago
Stunning! Terrifying and beautiful performance. I have never seen anything like it. And have only read briefly about Sankai Juku Butoh. I am hooked.
BillSalem 5 months ago 11
@BillSalem The perfect description
NikNikLoco 4 months ago
@BillSalem
Olivier de Sagazan?
Jcolinsol 3 months ago
fuckin' amazing - beautiful and grotesque - comforting and sinister - superficial and profound all at the same time...
heterodoxphilimath 5 months ago 3
Mmm kinda creepy and i like it although 4 some reason it reminds me the cenobites
sweetblooddarkness 6 months ago
This is as close to sublime as art on earth comes....
blainie4 7 months ago 3
Great troupe, saw them this year in L.A.. To see a butoh protest of art censorship check out Whiteout: Butoh for BLU on Vimeo.
CaneyheadPictures 7 months ago
My dance teacher showed us this video at our dance intensive while learning about modern dance and different styles.she made all of the younger dancers leave because she knew it was so emotional and comes off as creepy to some people.but I'm 15 and I thought it was a great interpretation of the pain Japan's people were put through.amazing.
DanceMagicNJAJ 7 months ago
@consrignornt im not american bro.. i not even human anymore ...your hate is going to be your doom..
xxxlastmigxxx 7 months ago
@xxxlastmigxxx
i rest my case
consrignornt 6 months ago
i say we kill then now and put then in the organs harvest list..
xxxlastmigxxx 8 months ago
this is why humans must all be exterminate..lol..wtf
xxxlastmigxxx 8 months ago
Its an interpretation of the Japanese people after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
AhItsArah 8 months ago
@AhItsArah Cruel but funny :S
MVZKris 7 months ago
One of the Tamano's, a infamous couple who brought Butoh to America, said this weekend that it is up (paraphrasing) "to the audience to create the story, the dancer just dances" As a Butoh practitioner, i feel both room for interpretation, and a firm grasp on the energy involving the dance, are pertinent.
The question for you is, did you feel anything from watching this?
:lugh:
EyesofNeurosis 8 months ago 2
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MsCerealKiller 10 months ago
OMG I love it so much!!
swedenskill 10 months ago
Why do I feel aroused?
H0yl1an 10 months ago
it is kind of scaring
rexclawn 10 months ago
Me encanta esta presentación, entre la muerte, el dolor y ese registro de caos
carolapizarro 11 months ago
time is not coming or going, i am not coming or going, i am buried with my friends.
erotickatana 11 months ago
thankyou for your comments @wiimzy...i find this beautiful...powerful...Dancing..i loving.. and feeling....blessings...A
MrDzogchen 11 months ago
thankyou for your comments @wiimzy...i find this beautiful...powerful...Dancing..i loving....blessings...A
MrDzogchen 11 months ago
Lol, Bjork.
xsasukex 1 year ago
juaooo very very different .. a new kind of art respect from Costa RIca
PoiFran 1 year ago
Saw this today during World Dance History and thought that it was good but very creepy. Was wondering if anyone knows what they are dancing about... It kinda made me think about what it would have been like after the atomic bombs were dropped. am i right in thinking that?
psdesavino3 1 year ago
exkizito arte eso si es arte!
GardenVamp 1 year ago
would you be less confused if i told you that this dance form has a lot to do with the cultural reaction to the nuclear bombs that ended WWII?
ThorgrimmtheBoss 1 year ago
Seriously, did I just watch Silent Hill meets Swan Lake or something? This has to be some sort of outsider art because there is no way on Earth that the mentally stable will get this.
boosie007666 1 year ago
well put henrypacker. most choreographers and dancers these days are very interested in how people respond emotionally to their work, but are not upset or disappointed when people infer emotions that the artist did not intentionally create. the unanticipated emotional responses actually tend to be praised instead of shunned. So this dance "means" only as much as it emotionally effects you. take whatever you want from it, and that will be the "correct" interpretation.
ThorgrimmtheBoss 1 year ago
zombies!
takeru51 1 year ago
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Wiiimzy 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy they are dancing...
deaikai 1 year ago 13
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johannes2001 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy . No one should take you for ignorant. Ignorant people don't question. In fact, I believe that's what the dance is about. When you watch, it provokes the question 'what does it mean?' or the statement 'I don't understand'. Maybe there is a plot. And maybe some interpreter can explain it, but I'm more interested in my reaction. For me, the dance isn't about understanding; it's about sensation. It succeeds by making us ask. Which means it worked for you.
HenryPacker 1 year ago 31
@HenryPacker Exactly. Interpretations, symbols, meaning, quantifying. Generally we have too rigid a form of understanding in the literal and figurative realms. Just be here. Just experience.
Aurelius27x 10 months ago
@HenryPacker
no, they are ignorant
consrignornt 6 months ago
@HenryPacker what a load of rot
123arry321 5 months ago
@HenryPacker There is nothing wrong with being ignorant, but being ignorant and not realizing it is idiocy.
Butoh is centered around a concept and everything has a profound meaning, it emerged from the early 60's as a form of protest, so it's meaning had to be clear. A lot is being recycled from other performances, and it evolved into a complex language of movements and expressions.
It's not just some esoteric and abstract random crap for pseudo intellectuals.
noxure 5 months ago
@Wiiimzy the point is not to understand... but rather, respond
DoWnAzZAzN 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy This genre of dance, Butoh, was created by Kazuo Ohno and Tatsumi Hijikata, they were moved by the happenings in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, and so, created a way of portraying the things happening after them. You could say that the movements intend to portray the survivors of the bombs, they were mostly naked, their skin torn apart and charred, walking around in pain, that's probably why they call it the dance of darkness. They're mostly movements driven by raw emotion.
insertsmartusername 1 year ago
@insertsmartusername That's from what I have read, the common interpretation of the western world. But not quite correct.
r0tt1ng 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy
Think of it in terms of being dead.
VampiraAma 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy there is no right or wrong way to interpret this, just observe what you see and wat you feel where it touches you the real story happens inside
WannesLabath 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy Butoh is the collective name for a diverse range of activities, techniques and motivations for dance, performance, or movement inspired by the Ankoku-Butoh movement. It typically involves playful and grotesque imagery, taboo topics, extreme or absurd environments, and is traditionally performed in white body makeup with slow hyper-controlled motion, with or without an audience. There is no set style, and it may be purely conceptual with no movement at all...
MissTwinx 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy ...Some say that butoh is defined by its very evasion of definition. The Kyoto Journal variably categorizes butoh as dance, theater, “kitchen,” or “seditious act.” The San Francisco Examiner describes butoh as "unclassifiable" (“strangest, most unclassifiable, and most haunting").
But I think what it is is that it is just another form of self-expression.
MissTwinx 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy glad to reply. this is not simple stuff. being japanese theater, a lot of what you are seeing is an elegantly restrained form of expression. butoh, this form of dance, is a form of modern performance dance that resisted influence from western dance disciplines. you are seeing a mix of japanese traditional theater, many of those rules still in place and how those traditional forms can still be directly associated with modern styles. this is masterful stuff.
flyingape11 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy your not ment tounderstand the dance your ment to have idea's of what i could be thats the point of butoh thay have a story to it but that dont show it you have to look at it and interpret it for your self
JaeeJaee93 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy your not ment tounderstand the dance your ment to have idea's of what i could be thats the point of butoh thay have a story to it but that dont show it you have to look at it and interpret it for your self. and then thay look up into the sky its a Hiroshima bombs going off and then that drop there fingers down its there skin melting from the heat of the bomb
JaeeJaee93 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy Did you feel the same way the first time you saw the TWIST?
andreas21270 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy basically the common point of buto is to apear to be moved by an internal, or external source.
not by your own controll.
:)
antijelly 1 year ago
@Wiiimzy from what little i know about the form, it developed Japan in response to WWII--the grotesque faces mimic images of people being bombed. So they might be praying, although it also suggests to me watching bombs or airplanes
dwyerkm 11 months ago
@Wiiimzy there is no right answer....tell us what you feel.....please answer.
10mog 11 months ago
@Wiiimzy
Butoh is a very complex form of physical theater. It is not easy for Americans to understand partly because it is so painfully slow. To explain Butoh on this forum is impossible. I say google it .It is really amazing,but certainly not for everyone.
sisterdiggins 11 months ago
@Wiiimzy You might find it useful to actually look up the history of Butoh. I believe, as a movement, it came as a reaction to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and it's very existentialist. It may not explain this specific dance, but it may help you understand where the aesthetic is coming from.
MadameXandra 11 months ago 14
@Wiiimzy Modern Butoh is heavily influenced by the cultural and philosophical effects of America's bombing of Japan during WWII.
jmoney747 11 months ago
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samal24 11 months ago
@Wiiimzy Its not meant to be understood rationally or even understood at all, you have to see it as an experience, an event. There is no conventional narrative to try and follow. Once you suspend your mind from seeking a story or working out whats going on, then your reaction to it will be much more powerful.
samal24 11 months ago
@Wiiimzy It's Performance Art
AntiMusick 10 months ago
@Wiiimzy
I think they are praying for the death of round eye... that's my interpretation anyway...(hint:notice the circle in the center)
3dbeing 10 months ago
@Wiiimzy
It's just a form of beauty
daphnemohajer 9 months ago
@Wiiimzy "The biggest mistake a dancer can make is to think. You have to FEEL." (Michael Jackson)
Only you know how to interpret what you are seeing, and what it means to you. Art is subjective, and that's the beauty of it. And on the contrary to what some people seem to think; art doesn't have to be "pretty" in order to be good. You can be disgusted, scared, or even repulsed; and it can still be a good thing. As long as a piece has made you feel, period, it has served its purpose.
godessceline 9 months ago
@Wiiimzy They are expressing their feelings and making body movements that coincide with their understanding and interpretation of the world. Please google butoh…I celebrate the grotesque, for it is much more complex, amusing and diverse then beauty.
yolyk78 8 months ago
@Wiiimzy The Butoh dancing comes from Japan after the "beautiful" USA attack with their atomic bombs, the japanesse didn't knew how to protest, so they created this dancing, in a Butoh dancing you talk about energy, you talk about environment, you talk about violence, about the lose from our own corp, about the violence, about people, about the time....with all this and more the use of the voice has no sense so the silence, the corporal expresion and the facial expresions ar the perfect language
titOskuUn 8 months ago
@titOskuUn Well, it was a war, right? Japanese forces attacked first after all. And if they had the atomic bomb before 1944 , they would use it for sure (and consequently won). Not defending Usa, but truth need to be told.
crieiessacontaagora 6 months ago
@crieiessacontaagora okay, but you need to consider more than just the timeline of events. you're not considering that this form came from the streets, from the people, not the empire and its army. the Japanese empire started the war that lead to the catastrophe that was the atomic bomb. that doesn't mean the entirety of Japan's people was behind the war, or especially its ending. As far as truth being told? You're looking at it. This is nuclear war.
IanCardoni 6 months ago
@IanCardoni I was not referring to the people of Japan or the Butoh stuff. Of course civilians can't be responsible for such thing, I was not saying that. Just read the comment of "titOskuUn" and then my reply. Or I'm missing something?
crieiessacontaagora 6 months ago
@crieiessacontaagora You might be missing the fact that not everyone has the same perspective on what defines a nation. Nations are just an idea to make people think in a certain way, but in reality the US and Japan are only names on a paper.
So, in my opinion you're both wrong because the discussion is as foolish as any other religious debate. But I think we can both agree that dropping bombs on people is not cool. :-)
noxure 5 months ago
@noxure Sounds funny when you try to explain what nations are when you previously said that not everyone has the same perspective of what nations are. Kind of hypocrite
Anyway I don't really look at my "discussion" with him as foolish as any other religious debate, so yeah we disagree at that part (mostly because our "discussion" does not have anything with religion at all). I don't know why you pushed the "dropping bombs" part either, but I agree with you in that case. :)
crieiessacontaagora 5 months ago
@crieiessacontaagora I didn't emphasize that this was my perspective to illustrate my previous statement, because I thought it was obvious.
People anthropomorphise nations as entities, similarly to how they did with gods. Nationality is the now paradigm that defines our identity in most parts of the earth, except in the Islamic world. But I think we should reject this paradigm also and evolve even further. It's a bit too complex to explain it all in a Youtube comment. :-)
noxure 5 months ago
@noxure It was far from obvious for me but whatever
I still don't know why you're saying this much about your feelings and thoughts though. All I did was reply to someone who blame the U.S. for the bombs when, in fact, they're not the only to blame. if you deny that both the U.S. and Japan are considered nations, then there's something wrong with you.
crieiessacontaagora 5 months ago
@crieiessacontaagora It's okay if you don't understand.
noxure 5 months ago
@noxure Did I meant to? I don't remember asking for any of your pundits about the nations and stuff, you started to philosophizing and I didn't tried for real. But hey, let's say that I don't understand; may turn your arguments more valuable than mine, I think.
crieiessacontaagora 5 months ago
@noxure if you care, "nationality" like ethnicity and race, is also considered these days an "imaginary community" and in a developmental view it is between egocentrism and world-centrism...the nation-state as a structure of identity. we need to move beyond ethnocentrism and nationalism, but it isn't totally bad because it expands one's identity and care to include people the don't even know, something larger. Nationality is a step towards worldcentrism, one that cannot be skipped, in theory.
davidtitterington 1 month ago
@Wiiimzy i think your understanding of it will come of its own accord. from personal experience, trying to understand a piece hasn't always been helpful because that's merely my logical mind trying to put something in terms that the ego can grasp. but logic and art don't necessarily go hand in hand. i'd say be more aware of what your experience is, how it makes you feel, those sensations come from your gut and the rest of your body, not your head. dreams are like that for me too.
wunderbeast 8 months ago
@Wiiimzy You definitely got some... never seem so many replies before lol
crieiessacontaagora 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Does not get any better.
diemazzmusic 1 year ago
why cant all those four... hold some limes?!!
elendless 1 year ago
@elendless haha, oh fucking wow, haha.
blakscull 1 year ago
The hell did i just see...
ultraali453 1 year ago
well, most of you have no clue what butoh is, right?
it's art and it's beautiful. and btw a lot of Japanese people do not even know butoh so please stop saying stuff like "crazy Japan" as if a sub-genre of dance stands for all Japanese. and now please go ahead and tell me how stupid I am, I do not expect you people to say anything else...
JuHeiable 1 year ago 3
@JuHeiable I completely agree. =] It is so unique.
123aviavo321 1 year ago
@JuHeiable ...People should really read more about BUTOH and the essence of this art form. Sad really when you see comments of some who duno anything about ART.
mansourboudehane 1 year ago
why do it? Must be joke right?? hahaha
kichigai no!
jadelovespat 1 year ago
man, japaneses are crazieeeee
gokharol 1 year ago
well that was weird scary and oh so very cool, but also reminds me of silent hill at least the music
laughingzetsubo 1 year ago
Breathtakingly beautiful.
NingyoRenee 1 year ago
@NingyoRenee wtf!?
Cowboybiglift 1 year ago
Scary
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rosie8181 1 year ago
their costumes are tre Hellraiser...
777isobel 1 year ago
they move with such a complex elegance, there is something disturbing and raw about their expressions. Human interaction is so vulnerable...
neoninjaXII 1 year ago 3
@neoninjaXII shut up. right now.
TheExLaw 1 year ago
@TheExLaw haha why?
neoninjaXII 1 year ago
@TheExLaw haha why?
neoninjaXII 1 year ago
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Oh japan you so crazy
blakscull 1 year ago 23
@blakscull El arte del siglo XXI debe forzosamente tomar aspectos de éste y otras ramas artísticas para florecer. Se acuerdan de mí cuando eso ocurra. Grandioso Sankai Juku
TheKHRISTO 1 year ago
@blakscull
devilcrazymonkey 1 year ago
Love the sound
ruidovisual 1 year ago
no se ustedes pero si yo me encuentro con estos tipos en un callejon oscuro y en mitad de la noche.... francamente me muero del susto "O.O"
jennissepadilla 1 year ago
Soooo Beautiful!!!
FaVenegas 1 year ago
Amazing!
hobbesdream 1 year ago
Satan!!! Anna Varney's -Sopor Aeternus- daughter?
salbanebala 1 year ago
@salbanebala
i would say that anna varney takes all from the butoh!!
zonachi 1 year ago
@zonachi
True, true that is true :I
salbanebala 1 year ago
wow
Bergkatse2 1 year ago
what a great artform
loudneighbor 1 year ago
I got no words to say... It´s not "wonderful" or "impressive". It´s just pure feelings...
Lihannanshee 1 year ago
fuckin beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrmann5000 1 year ago
見るのが快感で何度も見てしまいます。普段、感知することのできない世界を垣間見るような。そこは、生と死の間？ それとも自分の内面の、たとえば細胞のうごめき？ あるいは、人には見えない、言うなれば妖精たち・・・？？
なんて勝手に感じています。
素晴らしいと思います。
an234yo 1 year ago
can some one explain to mee what this is please and is it linked to the devil by anychance becasue these looks really creepy to mee ... if some one asked to explain this i wouldnt be able to because it looks UNexplainable ... THanks
laddeyhyphee 1 year ago
@laddeyhyphee It's Butoh, Avante-garde Japanese theater. look it up on Wikipedia
AaronChieu18 1 year ago
@laddeyhyphee the link to the devil is that : the devil is in most cases a resemblence of the fear to be what you are afraid to be.
butô resembles expression. if you are afraid of expression, then this is your devil.
lezvarthok 1 year ago 3
Just discovered this Butoh thing, very interesting. I think the Japanese are very creative.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
I have to say there physical motion does mimic something that has very strange ascetic to it. In a way I actually feel fearful watching them I am not the type who is easily scared either. Their facial expression are very strange threw this entire video but they appear they are experiencing both pain, pleasure, and fear.
edmanr2003 1 year ago
@edmanr2003
They strike me immediately as resembling victims of the atomic bomb. With a performance like this, it's perhaps not fair to say, "oh, it seems to be about Hiroshima," but the aesthetics of butoh are informed quite a lot by the desolation, the human carnage, and the 'silence' of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombs. They look charred and ashen, don't you think?
georges3601 1 year ago
@georges3601 that is in fact Ohno & Tatsumi's origins of this dance style. Did you know this or was it an observation? Very astute of you if it was observed.
KwautLizard 1 year ago
De excelencia...
camilaaaify 1 year ago
I just remembered that I need to clean my room
Burdell22000 1 year ago
holy crap talk about trippy
JonnoXD 1 year ago
ke fuerte... gracias por la reflexión.
chico30000 1 year ago
Very impressive!
DerOlleJo 2 years ago 6
Explaining the unexplainable.....
rumpwrestler 2 years ago 2
PURE BRILLIANCE!!!!
BRAVO
jhordan77 2 years ago 3
kalo
SinosAndreas 2 years ago
i loove this it is amazing
sanzopa 2 years ago 2
j'en ai encore des frissons... c'est à voir l'esprit ouvert.
xtofchambers 2 years ago
love their costumes!
Mezm3rize 2 years ago 3
Why the fuck is this shit so impressive
Eatababy778 2 years ago 3
can i know the name of the work of this Senkai Juku's Butoh performance? is it Hibiki or others? please tell mee~~ thx..
alicexpiratez 2 years ago
Fantástico. Original
aMELborba 2 years ago 2
What are the conventions of buto?
Morphinedata 2 years ago
Sankai Juku is really one of the best Butoh Dance groups I've ever seen. Their astonishing sychronicity gives the performance an we-are-all-one effect and let the auditorium become part of it - amazing!
HartmutRast 2 years ago
the begining is kinda scary Y.y but awasome
jamesgoldxxx 2 years ago
like deities on earth..... i love it
devaloki 2 years ago
THIS- IS- AMAZING!!!
b00i00d 2 years ago
astounding! when I first saw this troupe perform, I walked out of the theatre a different person, forever changed...
shamanurbain 2 years ago 2
2 words....
SILENT HILL!
gavdaman88 2 years ago 27
@gavdaman88 NO SHIT!! I thought of the faceless nurses when I saw this. Creep me the fuck out man!
TonyPstunts 1 year ago
@gavdaman88
my god yes
Manisora 1 year ago
silent hill obviously borrowed from both butoh as also from hans bellmers somewhat fetish-inspired surrealistic photography series "la poupée".
r0tt1ng 1 year ago
@gavdaman88 No, Silent Beach!!!!!!!!
maruthamarutha 11 months ago
@maruthamarutha 0_o
gavdaman88 11 months ago
I can thoroughly recommend the butoh segment in Baraka.
ArmandKarlsen 2 years ago
pure brilliance
lukecap 2 years ago 2
Amazing. Their movments and thier outfits remind me a bit of Silent Hill...
DAN13L15 2 years ago
awesome!
faceofjesusinmysoup 2 years ago
hypnotic
tatalu2008 2 years ago
Love it..fascinating, traumatic and totally unique.
Ladybyron100 2 years ago 2
It's like an insane Rodin sculpture stuck between life and death
drw5656 2 years ago 2
EXQUISITE
mavericksmommi 2 years ago 2
so amazing....
zeluob 2 years ago
the dark side of the human being......
Subliminal
barbutgdc 2 years ago
TRANSCENDANT!
npp65 2 years ago
the music is too much . . . it takes away from the experience . . .
yukikoforevernoise 2 years ago
This is fantastic. Thank you so much.
beanshapedhorror 2 years ago