I'm a Shoto Kan karateka who enjoys watching the same kata done by other schools. I think it offers another way of seeing the kata and looking at what 'they' regard as important.
MrSuper Drums. I would not equate no first attack with "karate is block first". Nor would I view the first move in this or any kata as only a block. Go No Sen = Block then Strike, Sen No Sen = Block/Strike same time, Sen Sen no Sen = Strike at the moment your opponent launcehs his attack but faster.
@drmark10 - Totally agree. I reason that the whole 'karate commences with a block' idea was probably promoted as a way of introducing karate to the Japanese public and in particular to children.
@MrSuperDrums1 Yeah your right, I only realised it now. (Oh also I should be getting my green belt, or fourth belt, in a week) Belt order in my club: 1.White 2.Yellow 3.Orange 4.green 5.Blue 6.Brown 7.Brown with a black stripe (shodan ho, or something) 8.Black
@itsmePerseus heian nidan is very similar as both Funakoshi and Mabuni learned it from master Itosu. Funakoshi adapted it and renamed it to be taught on the mainland.
Hi, i'm practicing Shotokan style karate.. and in our style this kata is known as "Heian Nidan".
i also noticed some very little difference from this demonstration is that... we use to start the kata by stepping a backstance for the double upper-level block, and for that reverse hammer, we don't stretch the leg forward.. after the back side-kick, and forward knife-hand blocks, we had a fore-arm block along with nukite. after that, all same.. this kata had 4 kia's i remember, here there is none!
Si pero al cambiar el orden de los pinana no significa que se llamen igual las otras lineas se llaman heyan...o como se escriba y este seria el nidan no el shodan
en mi opinion el Shito Ryu es el estulo de karate que usa mas a los movimientos dificiles, xq en los otros videos de otros estilos en el pinan shodan todos afincan los pies en posicion adelantada, el Shito Ryu usa un movimiento en los pies mucho mas dificil x lo cual me parece q el Shito Ryu es el estilo de karate mas conservador, dificil y convencional
@1souljureofluv This is pinan shodan. Gichen Funakoshi reversed pinan shodan and nidan when he brought "karate" to Japan. He also changed the kanji to be defined as empty hand as opposed to china hand. If this is your nidan than your lineage is from Shoto-Kan. Rumor was NIdan was a little more basic than Shodan, mainly because of the kake ashi dachi in shodan (most don't even do it anymore. "twisting stance". ) I hope this helps.
Um, stop being an ignorant prick cuz i know what im talking about. i KNOW that this style of karate its pinan nidan, but in MY style, its shodan. READ MY WHOLE POST FIRST BEFORE YOU START ATTACKING ;)
I Agree With All The People Who Say The Stances Are Short And Cant Be Applied To Useful Effect In Actual shiai . . . but katas are exercised to make you proficient with the technique . . . furthermore during sparring we dont use neko hashi dachi or motodachi . . . we use some thing called a sparring stance and mostly we use ora uchis' and gyaki chukis(reverse punces) and im still a novice btw . . . im just in orange stripe 2 btw nice kata demonstration
@hellatiz- I get that in kumite... u NEED to be economical. But katas are demonstrations of application...why do you need to look like ur gonna shit?!
There are several kinds of Shito-Ryu. Like different branches. Some follow Mabuni's son's own interpetation of Shito-Ryu, some follow Tani's interpetation and some follow Suzuki's. There are MANY different branches of Shito-Ryu and the kata they have are a little different from eachother.
Umm.. guys, my orange belt test, is in two weeks, so can somebody tell me the most important think, what to learn before it? Is "Pinan Shodan" one of them?, cause i'm good at it.. but theres some harder moves too, which i'm going to learn more.
I never agree with shito ryu. What's with those stances, so short they possibly couldn't reach an opponent... Shotokan is a million times better... Not criticizing really, but shito ryu isn't practical, just showy.
Why do Shotokan martial artists have to telegraph to the whole world what their next step is. What a waste of energy to have such a long stance, long blocking, long punching. In a fight, you need to be economical and to use your opponents momentum.
i think there's alot of confusion as to which is which for pinan shodan an nidan, some shitoryu organisations have them one way or another, and the organisation i study under has 2 versions of the pinans (we call them A and B) (in the old version pinan shodan is the nidan version in the new version, and pinan nidan is shodan, if that makes sense?) good kata tho, and this is a good/strong version of pinan shodan ^_^
verified this is Pinan shodan of the shito ryu karate, i just graduated to next rank along with this kata tested by Fumio Demura and yes its the 2nd kata
In Shito ryu style is this called Pinan Shodan. It's more difficult than Pinan Nidan so karate-ka are learning Nidan first. This is system of Piana nkatas. Pinan kata and Heian kata are the same. Except of that in Heian numbering is Pinan Nidan called Heian Shodan because it'đ easier. And Pinan Shodan is called Heian Nidan. In Shito Ryu of course.
Pinan Nidan and Pinan Shodan were reversed by Funakoshi for teaching purposes into Heian Shodan and Heian Nidan. Technically, the numbering order doesn't necessarily mean that is the order that they are taught or should be taught. My school (Kobayashi) may teach Nidan before Shodan based on the level of the student.
ok to those who don't know, this is pinan shodan. Funakoshi is the one who changed the name to nidan because for some unknown reason this kata is taught after learning nidan(maybe cuz its harder, maybe). so you could say all shotokan practicioners are wrong or you could say Funakoshi just changed alot of names for kata, either way it doesn't matter. historically this is shodan, atleast to those of okinawan shuri-te (shorin-ryu) based systems.
yah i remember hearing about this its like in japanese karate they do NIdan because its easier but in okinawan karate they use Shodan. i dont know why tho lol. i could be wrong tho.
se llamaria como quieras pero llevo haciendo karate durante 15 años y desde q me la enseñaron se llama nidan, shodan no cuenta q sea hace 21345234534645746745 años. Mr. proper fue al principio ahora se llama Don limpio XD
No sé cuantas veces he explicado esto... hay líneas de Shito que cambian el orden de los dos primeros Pinan.
En las líneas que descienden directamente de Kenwa Mabuni, Dento Shito Ryu, liderada actualmente por su hijo Kenei Mabui se mantiene el orden antiguo.
Otra cosa es que tú hagas otra línea de Shito Ryu diferente y se haya cambiado el orden. Si llevas 15 años practicando deberías investigar un poco en las raices de tu estilo.
esta bie, es el pinan shodan, no hay nada que discutir, yo practico dhorin ryu hace mas de 10 años y es el primer pinan que aprendi, saludos desde mercedes, bs as.
anteriormente los sensei denominaban este kata como el shodan, los uchinanchu tenian a esta forma como el shodan, pero luego lo cambiaron por el nidan supuestamente debido a que tiene mayor complejidad con las tecnicas que el nidan de ese entonces
En realidad, amigo, no se trata de quien lo haga mejor hasta que lo haces en una competencia. ...Lo que el intenta es que la entiendas de la mejor manera. Saludos.
The individual moves look simpler than Pinan Yodan Shito Ryu but it seems to be longer. Thank you for posting this videos it will be very helpfull for my purple belt.
i practise karate and i dont find ant mistakes. i would like to see him perform all katas from junino . but the upper block we do is slightly different now.
well as you can see the power comes from the hips i see nothing wrong with it. lol i am from Goju and learning Shitu Ryu, i see alot of differences since Goju is a traditional karate with little to none changes.
I'm sorry to say that the use of the hip in the nukite tsuki is wrong. realise that he is doing a double-hip, is not worthy for a black belt showing a kata on a public video.
True, i was watching those videos and i was thinking about that, a long time ago when i used to do karate was in that order and with some diferents as well on the kata, watching that makes me to get back into it.
When he has his back turned, he does right inside-outside block with left foot forwad, right front kick, left reverse punch with right foot forward, left inside outside block with right foot still in front, left front kick, right punch and I learned this block as "assistant block" which is right insideu outside block with left fist at the right elbow I guess. Hopefully that helps
this looks like Sotokan, beacouse that´s no Shodan in Sito Ryu and his positions arn´t the same. Here the atacks movement arn´t in Zenkutsu dachi. Nobody think the same??
i got promoted for yellow belt and 1 stripe with pinan shodan and my blue belt promotion is next week and i forgot this kata and tenshiki drill and takiouko hich ni san
jaik666, geminivirgoaquarious and goukaku3391 the zenkutsu dachi that is performed by shito practitioners is alot shorter than the shoto and wado practitioners, which use a longer and deeper dachi.
the different movements in kata are a interpretation of different sensei's over a long period of time
and to add confusion with dachi there is hanzenkutsu dachi (half front stance).
please enjoy the pleasure with many years of training.
This kata is perfect, that's real shito ryu from japan. The people who made this video are the no 1 team in kata in japan. I repeat, this kata is perfect!
Pinan shodan is the first kata in the pinan series, but a long time ago, some masters realized it was harder, and switched it with pinan nidan for yellow belt to orange belt.
Ive practiced this kata thousands of times, and this guys zenkusaduche are way to short and he is standing way to high, and his turns are very studdery, theres no decisive clean step
I'm only orange belt (hence watching this to practise) and noticed that his zenkutsu dachi was too short. Surely if I can tell then he must be doing it badly?
Yeah, I could spot some 'wrong' things in these videos as well. I think that their goal is to give a general display of the katas' movements rather than show perfect form.
this looks a lot like heian shodan..?
Solari333 18 hours ago
WOOOHOOOO!!!
Got my green belt today
(fourth belt)
nazacuckoo98 1 month ago
Hey was anyone here at the karate seminar in Ireland around summer?
nazacuckoo98 2 months ago
Gaaaahhh!!!!!
Ranking in exactly one week!!!!!!!
nazacuckoo98 2 months ago
@nazacuckoo98 Do you know how to get to the Budokan?......PRACTICE!
mrthebillman 1 month ago
my fav kata next to san dan :P
vickersfan 2 months ago 2
I'm a Shoto Kan karateka who enjoys watching the same kata done by other schools. I think it offers another way of seeing the kata and looking at what 'they' regard as important.
BelloBudo007 2 months ago
MrSuper Drums. I would not equate no first attack with "karate is block first". Nor would I view the first move in this or any kata as only a block. Go No Sen = Block then Strike, Sen No Sen = Block/Strike same time, Sen Sen no Sen = Strike at the moment your opponent launcehs his attack but faster.
drmark10 2 months ago
@drmark10 - Totally agree. I reason that the whole 'karate commences with a block' idea was probably promoted as a way of introducing karate to the Japanese public and in particular to children.
BelloBudo007 2 months ago
all 'Pinan' kata's start with a block in neko achi dachi (cat stance)
just proves that the way of karate is block first
MrSuperDrums1 2 months ago
nazacuckoo98 2 months ago
@nazacuckoo98
good luck! where you from?
MrSuperDrums1 2 months ago
Pinan Nidan/Heian Shodan ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
baran209 4 months ago
Nice vid, but i thought that was nidan, starting with a high stance instead of middle to punch(what i originally thought to be shodan) xD.
midgarzolon 5 months ago
thanks I needed a review :)
WarpHedgehog 6 months ago
this is pinan nidan
sonicben10 6 months ago
@sonicben10 no it's not, they are similar, but this is shodan for sure
iamriotman 5 months ago
@sonicben10 pinan shodan not nidan
Reviews4477 5 months ago
he raised his heel too much.
judokid9 8 months ago in playlist Karate
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People that´s pinan nidan im doing this kata in my class of karate and this is pinan Nidan!!!! I practice Shito Ryu this tittle its wrong
franbenderfan 8 months ago
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franbenderfan 8 months ago
there is something very unnerving when he turns his head at the end of the kata..
benlucas6 9 months ago
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it's just like heian nidan with shorter steps!
itsmePerseus 9 months ago
it's just like heian nidan with shorter steps
itsmePerseus 9 months ago
@itsmePerseus heian nidan is very similar as both Funakoshi and Mabuni learned it from master Itosu. Funakoshi adapted it and renamed it to be taught on the mainland.
elenchus 8 months ago
It's Pidan Nidan!
Gwindor97 10 months ago
@Gwindor97 this is the original name for the kata, from itosu. In some other styles, it is reversed (nidan with shodan).
elenchus 8 months ago
Awesome ! just like i learned it =)
JChikamaru 10 months ago
this video ws very helpful.......hope 2 see more soon
KannurBeachHouse 10 months ago
YES!! this is exactly what i needed to learn and this is very helpful. Thank you up-loader.
AdamusUmbra 11 months ago
esto es pidan nidan
AlphaCanidae 1 year ago
No kiyai? I have never heard of a silent kata. lol.
Kaibo101 1 year ago
shodan efectivamente
LAMPASKAPER 1 year ago
es heian shodan efectivamente
LAMPASKAPER 1 year ago
all of it is good but this is pinan nidan now they changed them
FreakinAmazingPerson 1 year ago
Hi, i'm practicing Shotokan style karate.. and in our style this kata is known as "Heian Nidan".
i also noticed some very little difference from this demonstration is that... we use to start the kata by stepping a backstance for the double upper-level block, and for that reverse hammer, we don't stretch the leg forward.. after the back side-kick, and forward knife-hand blocks, we had a fore-arm block along with nukite. after that, all same.. this kata had 4 kia's i remember, here there is none!
LuciferCobra 1 year ago
@LuciferCobra i dont think it is the same kata you are doing. i think you should look it up from the name you know it as..
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
Si pero al cambiar el orden de los pinana no significa que se llamen igual las otras lineas se llaman heyan...o como se escriba y este seria el nidan no el shodan
davidprae 1 year ago
en mi opinion el Shito Ryu es el estulo de karate que usa mas a los movimientos dificiles, xq en los otros videos de otros estilos en el pinan shodan todos afincan los pies en posicion adelantada, el Shito Ryu usa un movimiento en los pies mucho mas dificil x lo cual me parece q el Shito Ryu es el estilo de karate mas conservador, dificil y convencional
dragonsuelo333 1 year ago
Anybody ever heard of Seito Shito Ryu?
hansen99x 1 year ago
great
666dianamartell 1 year ago
in our style of karate, fushin ryu, this is pinan nidan ^_^
1souljureofluv 1 year ago
@1souljureofluv thats really weird because.. Pinan Nidan means just Pinan Nidan, and Pinan SHodan means just what you saw above here.
PaperAirplaneTutor 1 year ago
@PaperAirplaneTutor
oh thats cool
1souljureofluv 1 year ago
@1souljureofluv This is pinan shodan. Gichen Funakoshi reversed pinan shodan and nidan when he brought "karate" to Japan. He also changed the kanji to be defined as empty hand as opposed to china hand. If this is your nidan than your lineage is from Shoto-Kan. Rumor was NIdan was a little more basic than Shodan, mainly because of the kake ashi dachi in shodan (most don't even do it anymore. "twisting stance". ) I hope this helps.
shureikanshihan 1 year ago
@1souljureofluv NO ITS NOT YOU STUPPIIDDD PERSON!!!!
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
@CharliiePinkBabe1994
Um, stop being an ignorant prick cuz i know what im talking about. i KNOW that this style of karate its pinan nidan, but in MY style, its shodan. READ MY WHOLE POST FIRST BEFORE YOU START ATTACKING ;)
1souljureofluv 1 year ago
YouTube = your down here
SavageCold 1 year ago
@ragunix89 For YouTube green belt? I have to know it for my orange belt -_-
SavageCold 1 year ago
@SavageCold me too xd/
PaperAirplaneTutor 1 year ago
hola jeje me examino esta tarde para cinturon verde (entero) me entran
pinan shodan,nidan,shandan,yodan y Godan (base). Los Waza (suki,uchi,geri,renzoku) teoria y demás.
jeje
¿una pregunta esto es lo que yo hago en pinan nidan. ¿por qué pone shodan?
pablogalan1995 1 year ago
Ah sweet I need to learn this for my green belt :D
Ragunix89 1 year ago
@Ragunix89 I am doing it for my green belt too!! xxx
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
the last hit was age uke?
qwertzuio53 1 year ago
@qwertzuio53 yep, it was :)
FutureCascade 1 year ago
I Agree With All The People Who Say The Stances Are Short And Cant Be Applied To Useful Effect In Actual shiai . . . but katas are exercised to make you proficient with the technique . . . furthermore during sparring we dont use neko hashi dachi or motodachi . . . we use some thing called a sparring stance and mostly we use ora uchis' and gyaki chukis(reverse punces) and im still a novice btw . . . im just in orange stripe 2 btw nice kata demonstration
Radicalvegeta 1 year ago
@hellatiz- I get that in kumite... u NEED to be economical. But katas are demonstrations of application...why do you need to look like ur gonna shit?!
Mangoose95 1 year ago
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@Mangoose95 ''why do you need to look like ur gonna shit?!'' erm well it is what you call focus.!!
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
super stupid
arrumaeful 1 year ago
@arrumaeful You are stupid, karate is a powerfull techinque, u cant handle it.
PaperAirplaneTutor 1 year ago
I don't understand, there are 2 kinds of Shito-Ryu.
I learn shito-ryu as well, but not this certain kind. They have different moves and stances. I am an orange-stripe belt and I know all of the katas.
I know:
Pinan Shodan, Nidan, and Sandan.
Shi Ho Hi - Four Corners
Nin Sei Shi Sho - Dynamic Tension
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Explain?
TacoStoneProduction 1 year ago
@TacoStoneProduction
There are several kinds of Shito-Ryu. Like different branches. Some follow Mabuni's son's own interpetation of Shito-Ryu, some follow Tani's interpetation and some follow Suzuki's. There are MANY different branches of Shito-Ryu and the kata they have are a little different from eachother.
Ruben1994OL 1 year ago
Brown belt grading in 2 days for me, these vids will help heaps refreshing my memory of the Kata's the only part i'm having trouble with
Zer0systm 1 year ago
Umm.. guys, my orange belt test, is in two weeks, so can somebody tell me the most important think, what to learn before it? Is "Pinan Shodan" one of them?, cause i'm good at it.. but theres some harder moves too, which i'm going to learn more.
Darkfear117 1 year ago
I never agree with shito ryu. What's with those stances, so short they possibly couldn't reach an opponent... Shotokan is a million times better... Not criticizing really, but shito ryu isn't practical, just showy.
Mangoose95 2 years ago
@Mangoose95
Why do Shotokan martial artists have to telegraph to the whole world what their next step is. What a waste of energy to have such a long stance, long blocking, long punching. In a fight, you need to be economical and to use your opponents momentum.
hellatzis 1 year ago
what are the sound effects for?????????
patrickdarcy 2 years ago
That's really from the kimono =D Mine does the same sound
bagun 2 years ago 3
@bagun Really? cuz If you did any martial arts at all you'd know its called a gi.
capinilla 1 year ago
@capinilla gi? what is that? sorry i'm not understanding. Yes, I do also shito ryu
bagun 1 year ago
@bagun KIMONO?!?! WHAT ON EARTH. its called a Gi
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
@CharliiePinkBabe1994
i mean nidan
1souljureofluv 1 year ago
@CharliiePinkBabe1994 Sorry, ehehe, but in Portugal we call it kimono =) Thanks
bagun 1 year ago
@bagun yeah the heavy ones are damn noisy, just walking down a crowded hall you can be heard lol.
toxi87 10 months ago
@bagun It's called a Gi - a Kimono is an article of clothing worn for more special occasions ;). But that is where the noise comes for sure!
keepytreats 10 months ago
@bagun It's not a kimono, it's a Gi ;)
MrQuastior 8 months ago 12
those aren't sound effects..you get that snap sound if you have a heavy 14 oz gi..and i am sure he is mic'ed
deerhunter45628 2 years ago
@deerhunter45628 i have a 14oz gi and mine does exactly the same x
CharliiePinkBabe1994 1 year ago
It's the Snapping of the Gi, show's that your technique is strong and executed well
Zer0systm 1 year ago
Pinan Shodan = Heian Nidan
Pinan Nidan = Heian Shodan
WarrenChu000 2 years ago
In Shukokai this is shodan and is the sixth kata. Nidan is first (or second if you are in the kid's class, at my dojo at least).
Niflheim13 2 years ago
its pinan shodan
bf2pwner586 2 years ago
I heared,
nowtime it is syodan.
longtime ago,it was nidan.
FRX100 2 years ago
syodan? its still pinan nidan. Motobuha shitoryu still calls it pinan! :D
ZornAndWingShow 2 years ago
It is Pinan shodan. The second kata.
Hippiainen91 2 years ago
開いて渡したブロックは、これらの動きにgrappingや手首のリリースのアプリケーションのいくつかの種類であるかは、厳密にブロックし、ストライキですか?
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
this is kata is pinan shodan and pinan nidan is when u start with cat stance arm block the first kata u start with lower block deep stance
ihbo7 2 years ago 2
who is the stupid that say's this is shodan??
GABYXU15 2 years ago
this is shodan u idiot i do this style and this is wht my sensei taught me but this kata has different variations like the first kata
ihbo7 2 years ago
IT IS SHODAN!
its only not shodan in shotokan and that means the minority!
have u know learnt that!
lezmos 2 years ago
this is crap.
talon115 2 years ago
hey nobody knows better right?
Nosferatu303 2 years ago
That´s not shodan , is nidan and he doesn't do it very well !!
JAVITOSTEAM 2 years ago
Is shodan ( in shito-ryu )
miguethebest 2 years ago 7
Is Nidan, behind in the times nidan was the first pinan that people teach but nowadays it change , i know that is a pinan from the shito - ryu stile
JAVITOSTEAM 2 years ago
@miguethebest I noticed that as well.
fork1964 1 year ago
claaaro,los japoneses no saben nada de karate,ES SHODAN,muchachito.
willysdesign 2 years ago
I am working on this one and anakou now in the Hakusuturu style Okinaiwan.
LHPOdianAzazel 2 years ago
pinan shodan? isn't nidan?
714Crust 2 years ago
i think there's alot of confusion as to which is which for pinan shodan an nidan, some shitoryu organisations have them one way or another, and the organisation i study under has 2 versions of the pinans (we call them A and B) (in the old version pinan shodan is the nidan version in the new version, and pinan nidan is shodan, if that makes sense?) good kata tho, and this is a good/strong version of pinan shodan ^_^
gianttrials 2 years ago
waa! he makes me feel so weak! XD lol im a white belt and we started working on that so I guess I can still improve ^^ I hope i can b like that good
kurmis94 2 years ago
no it is pinan shodan
kurmis94 2 years ago
I do Karate Shito Ryu and I've learnt this kata as Pinan Nidan,I'm orange belt now!..
Antares070 2 years ago
there was no Kiai .....
His stances were really good though. This Kata is diffucult towards the last bit
earthysunchild 2 years ago
verified this is Pinan shodan of the shito ryu karate, i just graduated to next rank along with this kata tested by Fumio Demura and yes its the 2nd kata
VizulyzKM 2 years ago
this guy is doin it wrong xD
phancyy 2 years ago
it may not be wrong, just different. i was taught a slightly different way and the way it is done may vary depending on the style.
JoshLucas5 2 years ago
In Shito ryu style is this called Pinan Shodan. It's more difficult than Pinan Nidan so karate-ka are learning Nidan first. This is system of Piana nkatas. Pinan kata and Heian kata are the same. Except of that in Heian numbering is Pinan Nidan called Heian Shodan because it'đ easier. And Pinan Shodan is called Heian Nidan. In Shito Ryu of course.
newbornalpha 2 years ago
Very interesting, in the style i take shotokan that would be nidan. I'm shocked at how similar the styles are.
Coldshadow25 2 years ago
y there is no kiai?
kenshinhimura87 2 years ago
lol that is shodan all right, at my school u learn pinan nidan first before pinan shodan
TheBlackWolf128 2 years ago
Pinan Nidan and Pinan Shodan were reversed by Funakoshi for teaching purposes into Heian Shodan and Heian Nidan. Technically, the numbering order doesn't necessarily mean that is the order that they are taught or should be taught. My school (Kobayashi) may teach Nidan before Shodan based on the level of the student.
slimeslayer 2 years ago 2
i do ryo bukai, i can never find it on youtube though.
ImpromptuCam 2 years ago
this is pinan nidan... different styles call it shodon i guess.
ImpromptuCam 2 years ago
what style are you from?
InBuddhaiTrust 2 years ago
perfect stances
alxamb95 2 years ago
It is zenkutsu dachi, though, but in the video it seems like moto dachi. Otherwise, we call this kata "Pinan Nidan" (shito ryu style)
yasuniiru 2 years ago
This seems the same as Wadu Ryu kata Pinan Shodan. Pardon me if I am wrong but it just seems exactly the same.
Sparkleabbie 2 years ago
es shodan
theruben1 3 years ago
ok to those who don't know, this is pinan shodan. Funakoshi is the one who changed the name to nidan because for some unknown reason this kata is taught after learning nidan(maybe cuz its harder, maybe). so you could say all shotokan practicioners are wrong or you could say Funakoshi just changed alot of names for kata, either way it doesn't matter. historically this is shodan, atleast to those of okinawan shuri-te (shorin-ryu) based systems.
rephlecs 3 years ago
rephlecs you are correct sir this is shodan
hdrydr05 3 years ago
If I remember correctly it's indeed because Pinan nidan is easier + all punches. You get your first kick in a kata with pinan shodan.
Naraku1987 3 years ago
It's funny, because in my system, we learn Nidan after Shodan.
wiscool129 2 years ago
yah i remember hearing about this its like in japanese karate they do NIdan because its easier but in okinawan karate they use Shodan. i dont know why tho lol. i could be wrong tho.
cronic110 2 years ago
same here...Nidan starts with the leg block into the cat foot stance with a chest block
deerhunter45628 2 years ago
Hey bro you got pinan nidan and pinan shodan mixed up bud
TheRyoha 3 years ago
he didnt mix it up. in japan they call them the inverse way
manji2000 3 years ago
se llamaria como quieras pero llevo haciendo karate durante 15 años y desde q me la enseñaron se llama nidan, shodan no cuenta q sea hace 21345234534645746745 años. Mr. proper fue al principio ahora se llama Don limpio XD
McArioXD 3 years ago
No sé cuantas veces he explicado esto... hay líneas de Shito que cambian el orden de los dos primeros Pinan.
En las líneas que descienden directamente de Kenwa Mabuni, Dento Shito Ryu, liderada actualmente por su hijo Kenei Mabui se mantiene el orden antiguo.
Otra cosa es que tú hagas otra línea de Shito Ryu diferente y se haya cambiado el orden. Si llevas 15 años practicando deberías investigar un poco en las raices de tu estilo.
orbelus 3 years ago 4
esta bie, es el pinan shodan, no hay nada que discutir, yo practico dhorin ryu hace mas de 10 años y es el primer pinan que aprendi, saludos desde mercedes, bs as.
insolito03 3 years ago
@orbelus jejejejejejeje corecto
CacoalShitoRyu 11 months ago
es PINAN NIDAN!!!!!!!!! es la 2ª kata
McArioXD 3 years ago
anteriormente los sensei denominaban este kata como el shodan, los uchinanchu tenian a esta forma como el shodan, pero luego lo cambiaron por el nidan supuestamente debido a que tiene mayor complejidad con las tecnicas que el nidan de ese entonces
locoyogui 3 years ago
se emocionan con eso yo la hago 1000000 veces mejor y soy blanca
Gokubabo 3 years ago
En realidad, amigo, no se trata de quien lo haga mejor hasta que lo haces en una competencia. ...Lo que el intenta es que la entiendas de la mejor manera. Saludos.
DELINFIERNOALATIERRA 3 years ago
The individual moves look simpler than Pinan Yodan Shito Ryu but it seems to be longer. Thank you for posting this videos it will be very helpfull for my purple belt.
loz1023 3 years ago
so im kinda confused i thought there were many forms that were long chains...do people just put together different katas to perform??
blobbybob11 3 years ago
i practise karate and i dont find ant mistakes. i would like to see him perform all katas from junino . but the upper block we do is slightly different now.
abishikth 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this
makararath 3 years ago
ask yourself if any of those techniques would woyk i say no master kyan did not teach this kata that way
TUCKERTBALL 3 years ago
well as you can see the power comes from the hips i see nothing wrong with it. lol i am from Goju and learning Shitu Ryu, i see alot of differences since Goju is a traditional karate with little to none changes.
lykemeeh 3 years ago
Bravo bravo nice movements and very strongly performed, i enjoy it as 1st dan.Thnx
poniran 3 years ago
I'm sorry to say that the use of the hip in the nukite tsuki is wrong. realise that he is doing a double-hip, is not worthy for a black belt showing a kata on a public video.
ivanbv2 3 years ago
I know a variation of this kata, it's neat to see how things change.
MystikBeast 3 years ago
No its like this in order, Taikyoky shodan (something), pinan nidan , pinan shodan, pinan sandan, matsumora nora hai (something).
Atleast in our style of karate.
ZZIRAK 3 years ago
at one point nidan was shodan and shodan was nidan ..so ive been told...
karaterocks99 3 years ago
True. Changed by Funakoshi for the JKA and renamed Heian nidan.
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
True, i was watching those videos and i was thinking about that, a long time ago when i used to do karate was in that order and with some diferents as well on the kata, watching that makes me to get back into it.
BlueRul 3 years ago
isn't this nidan?? in shotokan??
FLoMbErdY 3 years ago
WHY DOES HE TURN HIS BACK1?! ARRRGGH!!! lol... I was trying to learn it and he does moves where i can't see...dang nab it lol--- nice though :D
Encrtia 3 years ago
When he has his back turned, he does right inside-outside block with left foot forwad, right front kick, left reverse punch with right foot forward, left inside outside block with right foot still in front, left front kick, right punch and I learned this block as "assistant block" which is right insideu outside block with left fist at the right elbow I guess. Hopefully that helps
BruceLeeDivineWind 3 years ago
Yes, thank you very much :D
Encrtia 3 years ago
This is the latest kata that I learned. Next is Pinan Yandan.
JoshLucas5 3 years ago
Hey, I just learned this kata. =]
punkxrockin 3 years ago
thats definatly shodan
EwAnLad222 3 years ago
In some style's it is nidan, and in some it's shodan.
SuperDaveLBO 3 years ago
yeah, wtf's up with that???
Encrtia 3 years ago
Could be sohdan but I learned it like Nidan. Only I said Sotokan cause I think there, this kata is Heian shodan.
peibol12 3 years ago
I learned it as Nidan also, but In many style it's shodan since it's easier.
SuperDaveLBO 3 years ago
this looks like Sotokan, beacouse that´s no Shodan in Sito Ryu and his positions arn´t the same. Here the atacks movement arn´t in Zenkutsu dachi. Nobody think the same??
peibol12 3 years ago
no thats pinan shodan alright... and its shito ryu! i when through this kata... it just alittle bit old.. b.c sensei has changed many times!
hotshut 3 years ago
the way i'm being taught kata, most of pinan (heian) katas use moto dachi for attacks and zenkutsu for defense
RinKongH 3 years ago
although the shuto uke obviously use neko ashi dachi
RinKongH 3 years ago
really that guy should use more kiai!
garrax01 3 years ago
i got promoted for yellow belt and 1 stripe with pinan shodan and my blue belt promotion is next week and i forgot this kata and tenshiki drill and takiouko hich ni san
garrax01 3 years ago
jaik666, geminivirgoaquarious and goukaku3391 the zenkutsu dachi that is performed by shito practitioners is alot shorter than the shoto and wado practitioners, which use a longer and deeper dachi.
the different movements in kata are a interpretation of different sensei's over a long period of time
and to add confusion with dachi there is hanzenkutsu dachi (half front stance).
please enjoy the pleasure with many years of training.
ous
wirihana66 4 years ago
kuniwchiwa ahhm what belt are you?
garrax01 3 years ago
This kata is perfect, that's real shito ryu from japan. The people who made this video are the no 1 team in kata in japan. I repeat, this kata is perfect!
minasrain 4 years ago
im orange belt now and i need to learn this kata... very kool
maxthepyro 4 years ago
really? i thought that this was a yellow belt kata? i thought orange to green was pinan sandan :P
tedicus 4 years ago
Pinan shodan is the first kata in the pinan series, but a long time ago, some masters realized it was harder, and switched it with pinan nidan for yellow belt to orange belt.
rockinthepearl 4 years ago
huh i did pinan shodan for yellow belt
garrax01 3 years ago
It depends on the style, I did pinan nidan for yellow belt, and pinan shodan for orange.
rockinthepearl 3 years ago
ohh i do mixed martial arts.
garrax01 3 years ago
pinan nidan
garrax01 3 years ago
yes, I think it´s pinan nidan too (the second of five basics)
OSS.
DirtyRamires 3 years ago
I took yellow belt on december and now im in the way for the orange and as i ca see this guy does pinan shodan very well..
EriGant88 4 years ago
Ive practiced this kata thousands of times, and this guys zenkusaduche are way to short and he is standing way to high, and his turns are very studdery, theres no decisive clean step
geminivirgoaquarious 4 years ago
I'm only orange belt (hence watching this to practise) and noticed that his zenkutsu dachi was too short. Surely if I can tell then he must be doing it badly?
Jaik666 4 years ago
Yeah, I could spot some 'wrong' things in these videos as well. I think that their goal is to give a general display of the katas' movements rather than show perfect form.
It doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise.
Talis29 4 years ago
good
NuMaWi 4 years ago