Holy moley you gotta hear this. last night the holy ghost came to me, (or maybe it was the tooth fairy,) i don't know it was too dark to tell. but anyway he spoke to me in a deep echoing voice, he said i should spread the word of "BOB." BOB i said, he said "YES, BOB." i told him "i'm ready, i'm ready." he said, "thats perfect, now keep it up." then he disappeared back into the closet. thats one goofy ghost.
You didn't answer my Gen 1:1. I've been watching the easter lesson and Arnold says it's from ishtar the queen of heaven. But when I research the historical teaching it says it started with eastre which was anglo-saxon, Germatic which migrated to England to Ireland. Arnold says saxon means Isaacs son which he is a member of that tribe. I can't seem to find a relation from eastre to ishtar. Any Ideas. I know I can't change your mind maybe you can change mine.
OK, Here's my uneducated answer/opinion. I've thought about it. Maybe, just maybe, God created the universe first. And let's say that he made us next. Then, inhabited the Earth with dino's, prehistoric human figures etc. for His pleasure. Then WE were allowed to walk or visit the earth. THEN satan rebelled. Then, God decided to destroy THAT Earth Age, and make THIS one habitable for His children in their flesh bodies, since we couldn't live with dino's or prehistoric human figures, cont...
cont...and now we are here to serve His purpose. Now, what that all boils down to in THIS case, is that he was speaking to the archangels and angels/children. And when he said "let's make "man" in "our" image," he wasn't speaking of US helping him, but just letting us in on his plans. Remember, He foretold us ALL things. Now, we could make another scenario with Him creating US first. But THAT'S the only way I can answer your ?. I saw the Easter show also...cont
2nd cont...but that one is "old", but I guess God's Word never changes. The only thing I have done with Easter is to look it up in the Websters. Pagan holiday. Do you know if it has anything to do with Easter Island ?
By the way, I'm sure you have already checked the "Strong's", but do you have a "Bullinger" companion bible? Appendix 4 tells of the Elohim. And on Easter, if you can use yahoo, then type in "Easter" with quotation marks, and it will take you to some sites. Now, scroll down to the 9th site and go to "Easter:it's origins & meanings", then scroll down to "the pagan origins of Easter", and go to it. It may have some info on it you haven't seen.
I don't have a companion bible,buy I can get it online. Before God created anything was there Father,Son,Holy Spirit? My Webster says Easter is the name of old Teutnic goddess of spring.Teutonic means,relating to the tall blond race characteristics of northern Europe.Sounds like the pastor.Same as Esau? I checked "Easter" did you check "Azusa St"? Easter is pagan but I can't find Ishtar and Easter as related.Did you notice Arnold wears his watch on his right arm and left. He must be confused.
Well, I checked out Azusa St. I'm probably going to offend you on this one. I feel it is ALL "bull". Did I read it right to say in the first church on Azusa St., that their belief was that one had to speak in tongues before they were considered to possess the Holy Spirit? What exactly was it that you wanted to bring my attention to here? Are you Pentecostal? Do you speak in tongues also? Was it the gathering of the various kinds of people? That other denominations sprang from it, or what? cont.
cont. Azusa...I'll bet that it is aiming at my bible teacher isn't it? How about you are trying to prove in some way that Mr. Murray is wrong about the speaking in tongues was the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, and speaking every ones lang. at one time, so they would ALL understand in their OWN language? Do you NOT believe this? It makes perfect sense to me, much more so than what took place on Azusa! Sounds like a little of Ishtar's parties to me. Answer some of my ?'s please. cont...
If I'm not mistaken Arnold teaches that the miracle of tongues in Acts 2 was Peter was speaking in tongues, so the Spanish guy heard him in Spanish, the French guy heard him speak in French and the Etheopian heard him in speak in jive.That would mean the speaker didn't receive the miracle but the people that heard it did. Pentecostals believe it was the other way around. Peter was given the tongue of jive so the etheopian understood him. I'm just wondering why Arnold don't mention Azusa st.
"If I'm not mistaken Arnold teaches that the miracle of tongues in Acts 2 was Peter was speaking in tongues, so the Spanish guy heard him in Spanish, the French guy heard him speak in French and the Etheopian heard him in speak in jive.That would mean the speaker didn't receive the miracle but the people that heard it did."
I could say, "Only the person with the gift of the Pentecostal tongue can utter words understood by everybody." That statement attributes the gift to the "speaker".
cont..Azusa/Ishtar...Well, I have found out some things. It's too much for me to tell you, but I have found that Easter got some how intertwined with a celebration connected to Ishtar. It explains it on these sites. EVERYTHING Pastor Murray told us is documented. Passover and Ishtar's celebration was around the same time, and her being favored by Egypt,Hebrews, and Assyrians along with the fact that it originated in Babylonia, says it all. I'm going to try to import this to your YouTube "mail".
I checked out the near death. Wasn't that an old episode of star trek? I've been to those easter and ishtar sites. Didn't the priests pervert the Passover? I left one more comment but haven't seen it yet. I'll be back.
In Acts"Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed?" There's a reason they ask that.But you can't receive the truth because Arnold won't let you.You become saved,you possess the Holy Spirit. In Acts they beleived the Baptism of the Spirit was the Spirit possess you.If you read Paul's teaching on tongues He teaches tongues in Church needs an interpretation(Same as prophecy) Tongues as a prayer language need no interpretation because your speaking to God.Read it yourself.
Wow! and I thought I was deep. Well, on the NDE video, I'm figuring that you didn't believe her story. I can understand that, but she was saying that when they went into this "star", that it was like it was BEFORE the universe creation. If her story was to be true, then that would mean that WE were created BEFORE the universe right? It is something to think about. Anyway, about this "Holy Spirit" thing,...cont.
I was at the online Companion Bible and went to Matt.24:40 and realised E.W. was right about those in the field. Even Arnold says were suppose to be found working when Jesus returns. There in the field working aren't they? Noah and the Ark was taken to safety and those on the earth were left for judgement.The only thing is are the fallen angels gonna be down here doodelin women.Pentacostals teach if you pinch yourself and it hurts when Christ comes to earth it's not Christ it's antichrist.
The Pentecost are correct about Antichrist. Yes, "those in the field" are representing the elect working for God in the time that satan is here. The others have been deceived by satan at this time (example: rapture people thinking satan was Jesus when he comes because they'll think it is Jesus here to "rapture" them away)and have already been taken by him. No more angel mixing after flood. I believe "David" was genetically huge because he was of the fallen angels line. But NOT sure on that one.
Don't let Arnold hear you say that about David.Were the 6 day flesh on the ark taken by 7 pairs or 1 pair? Why do you just skip over what I write. E.W. is right and Arnold is wrong.Did you get your rapture theory from the orbitingwebstar? Just kidden!
1 pair of each race on ark. 1 pair of each kind of animal, and so forth. It reads in the bible somewhere, that there are many different KINDS of flesh. Flesh of man, flesh of beast, etc. Therefore, when Noah was instructed to take "Two of ALL flesh" aboard, naturally, logically, it meant people too. You see God didn't want the mixed breeds, I feel, because he intended for the races to stay pure, like he made them. But just like Adam and Eve, we cannot behave and do what's right, can we?
Holy Spirit cont...Pastor Murray knows that when you receive Christ that you also receive the Holy Spirit. I Can't receive the truth? "Arnold" won't let me? What exactly IS the truth csat82414? Please tell me, I'm SURE YOU'll let me. WHY do you try so hard to convince me? If I go to a local church, with 60% socializing, 5% singing, 5% teaching, 10% opinion on that 5% teaching, and 15% bull, then what do I have? NOTHING. Any other suggestions? cont...
The truth is,Christ was on this earth 2000 years and it took that long for God to reveal the real truth thru one so called scholar when there are hundreds of so called scholars that couldn't disagree more, For every word in the strongs there seems to be several meanings for the same word.Touch can mean to lie with a women.But not always.People say the Ark wasn't large enough for all the animals let alone the unclean 6 day creation. I say unclean because 7 of each, there wouldn't be enough room.
Now, I want you to read this TWICE so I will know you haven't just skimmed it. Those scholars do NOT have a gift from God as MR.Murray does. They probably agree together, because they want to "roll with the flow" so to speak. Pastor Murray is the type of man that stands on his own. He doesn't care WHO it offends, world or whoever. Truth was kept secret until this LAST generation. He was hand picked from God out of those hundreds you are speaking of. I KNOW you don't believe me, I know you don't.
And, csat82414, Does it not make sense to you that Satan seduced her because he KNEW that it would take more than just words to convince her? You KNOW the deception he used on her is older than the book itself, because we both know that men are the same today as they were then. Satan knew exactly what he was doing. That's why she wanted to cover herself. I'm mighty afraid there was no apple involved in this one. Now, about the ark; if you think about it, there were probably not as many .....
Ark cont...not as many races on the planet then, as we have today. We probably got many, many, more after 6000 years of mixing different kinds of races. Therefore, If there were let's say, only 10 different races on the planet in Noah's day, that would only be 20 people to take aboard the ark as God instructed. So that would be possible. I'm not sure how many races we have today. By the way, does "csat82414" stand for C-can't S-stand A-arnold's T-teaching, 82414?
It would be"ceat82414" can't except arnold's teaching. The c is my first name and sat is for satellite. I've been installing dishes since 1985, where I first met Arnold. His satellite is in the middle of the arc of satellites. So when I saw him I new were I was at. I just didn't realise were he was.Didn't Noah offer the people to come into the Ark and they refused,or was that the movie I saw? But Arnold says it was to keep people out of the Ark. Which is it?
Hly Sprt. cont2...Personally, I feel that the one with the Holy Spirit was the one speaking in All the diff. lang. AT ONE TIME. The people there HEARD what was being spoken in their own lang., NOT because they were receiving the Holy Spirit in order to hear it that way, but because the Holy Spirit was coming through the speaker. BUT, I do feel the Holy Spirit was there among ALL of them. If MR. Murray was like Benny Sinn, Leroy Jenkins, John Hagee, etc; I wouldn't give him the time of day.
Star Trek? I see you didn't take that video seriously. I would feel the same way, but she just doesn't strike me as someone lying. I'm VERY skeptical when it comes to something like this. But I personally do have reasons to know that what you saw on that video could have truth. I won't say anymore on it.
I was gonna tell you I have a picture of cloven tongues of fire my mom took in the A.O.G. church back in 1960 when I was 7. There was a choir that came from the A.O.G. Bible college fron N.D. and all the pictures she took of the choir hand them resting on the choir and the conductor. I can send you a copy if you tell me how send it thru you tube. She also took a picture of a sunrise when we lived on a ranch in Wy and when she got it developed there was an image of Jesus where nothing was before.
cont. Arnold did a boo-boo today. He was standing up preaching from Luke 17. He has a maroon coat on.Did you catch it.I have it recorded on my DVR.This weekend on the big dish he said antichrist comes at the 5th seal,course that was probably an honest mistake. But the Luke 17 mistake was a biggy. I woulda been 8 when my mom took the tongues of fire picture and 10 at the Jesus Pic.
Humm, I'd really like to see that. I'll have to ask my son if he can show me how to send it thru YouTube. I know "Arny" as you call him makes mistakes, But when his attention is brought to it he does publicly apologize for it. Please DON"T read OVER this. It was late when I posted the "David" being HUGE comment. I was thinking of David and Goliath, and somehow wrote David's name INSTEAD of Goliath's. Another honest mistake. I'm so glad you caught that so I could clear it up. cont...start with A.
A. No, I didn't see the Luke 17 show. You see, I have cable, so I see his LIVE show only. It comes on at 5 and 6 in the mornings. Same show twice. He is in Cor.1 now; and see I'll follow that book until he's completely thru with it. Some one corrected him on his mistake I'm sure. Recorded it? Next time someone like me says.." he didn't say that", you can come back at them can't you? He did mean the 6th seal. My son said we could not use youtube for the picture, but, he suggested...cont B
That's SO funny. They always disappear and come back for me too. I think they take them and arrange them in order, especially if they are as long winded as ours are sometimes. I've read your response, but I'll have to respond in a while. Back later.
Anybody that would buy all of Arnolds tapes is a nut case,so I agree with you. Arnold teaches in John 8:44 these are kenites Jesus is talking to because murderer is mentioned and cain murdered Abel.The Devil, Satan caused man to die a physical death and spiritual death. He is the murderer Jesus is talking about. It has nothing to do with cain. Strong's #1228 says "specifically SATAN" 1228 refers to Satan in every passage Satan is referred to. 1140 refers to demon's. Who are the demons?IGot more!
csat82414----Didn't you grasp a thing I wrote to you ? We are not on the same page ! I tape Pastor Murray everyday to keep and share. And YES, I WOULD buy all his and Dennis's tapes even at the reasonable price of ---what did you say 5.00 ? TRUTH IS PRICELESS !
That's the problem. Not all is truth that is being taught."Your of your father the devil"Arnold teaches that is cain to promote his kenite doctrine. Moses's father-in-law was a kenite for where he lived not because he was the offspring of cain.Arnold says the church has to preach who the kenites are. Paul preaches Christ and Him crucified. Were not on the same page because you don't trust anyone but Arnold. Were to watch for Christs return not Satans. Who are the evil spirits? you didn't answer.
No man knows the hour or the day. They would be watching if they did. Were you watching Arnolds ?and answer,when the person said Jesus comes back to raise the witnesses from the dead.Arnold yes.and at the battle of Armageddon,yes.The witnesses are dead 3 days.I would know the day.Putin mentioned putting missiles in outer space. Lightning and fire from heaven.Antichrist might come in prosperous but he's gonna leave with the elect's heads.Rev:20-4:You answer my ? and I'll answer yours. Demons?
The Jews-elect-are waiting for the messiah to return. They believe the antichrist is the messiah until he desecrates the temple. Rev:20-4 is talking about those killed in the tribulation for not worshiping antichrist. Arnold thinks this is all spiritual. For the sake of the elect no"flesh"saved.He makes war with the saints.That's not a spiritual war. The spiritual war started back in the garden,remember? The prophets said 42 months,how can Arnold change it to 5. the deciples died for Christ.
oh,...Ok, I'm glad you cleared that up. I printed off a lot of his documents to read because I promised I'd keep an open mind, but I can tell he doesn't know the bible in depth enough to teach it. Boy!, he sure spends a lot of his time degrading Pastor Murray's teachings. Wonder why he chooses Pastor Murray to pick on?
I don't know if I'd waste my ink on him. The question I asked was-Where does the demons or evil spirits come from? Yes I believe satan comes to this earth before Jesus does.That's the only way God can get the Jews to believe that Jesus was the messiah 2000 years ago.The reason I distrust Arnolds teachings is(not all cases)because when something is figurative he takes literal and visa-versa.Not because I think so because other Greek an Hebrew Scholars say so.And he judges those that disagree.
Yes, he does think spiritually when referencing the bible. I was raised Baptist and they take everything literally. Not all scholars agree though, as you know. Demons ? I'll tell you, They're the evil spirits of satan and the 7000 that refused to be born in "flesh" that are chained in darkness until time for them to be released. They're bodies are chained, but they're evil spirits can still roam this earth, and enter people. The same way the Holy Spirit does, while God and Jesus sits on throne.
For satan to send his spirit to posess someone he would have to be omnipresent,and only God has that ability. The 7000 are individual angels.There the ones that come to seduce women. That's Arnolds teaching. Strongs say evil spirits are angels.Devils are demons which are the angels that went with satan in heaven. Strong's says that. The Bible says that.Read it for yourself. Arnold says different and you believe him.Satan counterfeits God but he don't have the attributes that God has.Check it.
yes, your right, but, the 7000 that sided with satan are the SAME angels that seduced the women. csat82414, WE were ALL angels before we were born in flesh. Old satan boy is an archangel. One of us is confused here. Now which is it ? THOSE 7000' spirits are free to roam the earth, and so is satan's. Do you think the 7000 have more power than satan ? And yes, I do believe him. I have read the same thing in the Strong's but I think it's still speaking of the 7000.
Those 7000 are held by Michael,according to Arnold. The evil spirits Jesus cast out were after he said get thee behind me satan.You and Arnold say satan can send his literal person in spirit to posess a person,but the Bible don't teach that. Are you saying satan has the same power as God? Actually evil spirits are tiny little monkey looking beings that fly out of the kenites butt and live in Gravett Arkansas.Did God create the earth in the 1st earth age then the angels or the angels first?
He must have REALLY made you mad or something for you to feel the way you do about him. I'm beginning to think it's personal. Am I right ? I guess we could go on and on about this but we are just going to buck heads. Did you see my message to you on the other video ? It's been interesting discussing the bible and Mr. Murray with you, but I guess you are fed up with this ole' "Murray" fan.
I was hoping he had the truth but after discerning the spirits he don't. I was watching his teaching on Rev.9 today(bar-code hair years)and the locusts were spiritual.Ezekiel seen a vision and it's some flying saucer. John was told to tell what he saw,and when he saw the locusts he could have seen a cobra helicopter. What's the difference between What Ezekiel saw and John? Like his view of murder.David commited murder.Liars robbers fornicators adulterors...don't have eternal life abiding in them
How can you say that. You know they are good people or they wouldn't spend so much time trying to help us learn the bible, even if you don't agree with him. I went to those sites and it seems to me it's still a bunch of educated opinions. Their guess is as good as Pastor Murray's I guess. I STILL think he knows what he's talking about, even if no one else shares my opinion. Little monkey beings....there IS no beings, it's All "spirits".
Any body that would buy all the tapes is a nut case,I agree with you. John 8:44 Arnold teaches these are kenites Jesus is talking to because murderer is mentioned and cain killed abel. Satan,the devil, caused man to die a physical death and a Spiritual death. That's the murderer Jesus is talking about. Strong's #1228 says specifically Satan not cain.#1140 refers to demons. Who are the demon's? They can't be fallen angels. Satan can't create beings. There are alot more in the Bible to discredit A
Oh I understand Shepherd's Chapel alright, csat82414. I understand that you didn't realize he meant we were coming up on a new millennium age, NOTHING to do with the "Lord's Day" thousand year reign. And Dennis said no such a thing. People are always misunderstanding what the Murrays' say because they simply watch bits and pieces here and there and just DYING to here ONE word out of text!Oh,.. And his hair isn't any of our business!
Do you have a big dish that you can see shepherd's chapel broadcasts back in the 1980's? I've installed satellite dishes since 1985 and have a big dish plus dishnetwork. His documentories on the Bat creek Stone and the runestone he says proves ancient Hebrews were here in America are hoaxes. Dennis said it. notice the updates on his tapes. I wanted to believe what he was saying but if you watch as much as I do of his teaching, along with a Strong's Concordance, you'll see the mistakes.
csat82414---I've watched them for 10 years everyday because I tape it everyday and keep the tapes. I know what you're talking about when you say the "bat Creek Stone" documentaries, but are you saying the Hebrews were or were not here. And what was Dennis saying exactly?
The documentaries are on the big dish on the weekends, plus the early teachings in the 80's. Dennis was answering question's and his answer was Mary was conceived by our Lord Jesus Christ. He also said the trinity is offices like satan has offices. The serpent, beast, antichrist etc. He still compares God in 3 persons to satan. Blasphemy! Take this 9 mm ta that boy. Arnold ? do you think we will be in the millenium in 2000? Arnold YES. This was 198? Search is the bat creek stone fake + runeston
I hear what you are saying csat82414, but I have never heard them say anything like this or insinuate it. This is not to say YOU didn't hear it though. They teach the bible in a way that completely makes sense to me. They're probably the closest teachers we will ever have on "deep bible study". They just seem to have such good common sense (excluding the gun incident, which I feel there's more than meets the eye and ear). People comprehend their teachings differently I've learned.
Les Feldick teaches chapter by chapter and verse by verse but would disagree with Arnold.I? his teaching on tongues-3 chances to make it to heaven and no eternal torment,but hope he's right- the great tribulation,the Elect can't be deceived but God shortens it because they are-Cain,kenites because cain is also place in Palestine-The Flood,early teachings were"no worldwide flood because kenites survived" now it is worldwide but part of all flesh on the ark. Search Hugh Latimer an do wikipedia.
Who's Les Feldick? Do you agree with him more? Pastor Murray has NEVER taught that "there are 3 chances to make it to Heaven". Where do you get that from? He teaches (because the bible teaches) that the people who never had the opportunity to know God's plan in this Earth's Age, will be taught in the 1000 year reign of Christ--which is a teaching period. This is why Satan is in the pit for the 1000 years, so they can learn truth without his interference. Aren't you "flesh" too csat82414?
He comes on angel one 9;00 am MT weekdays. Not 100%His teachings are at his website. Abraham and Lazarus made it in the flesh,so the rich man had a chance-1st-Jesus went a preached to the rich man and others on the wrong side of the gulf-2nd- then those that don't believe on the wrong side of the gulf gets a chance during the 1000 yrs.3rd. I guess we get 2 chances. I thot that's why we were in these flesh bodys, to decide if we would accept Christ or satan. Did you check out Hugh Latimer?
No, csat82414, I didn't check him out because I don't know how to find him, but I did find one video on you-tube with Les Feldick and I couldn't hear it to well but he sounded like he had good common sense and I like his sincerity. I do not have satellite, I have cable and don't usually watch preachers/teachers on TV because they are either begging for money or trying to give me their insignificant opinions. I just love to read and study the bible, I don't need their "opinions", do you?
Good theology is getting many opinions,so you can interpret the Word correctly.2nd Thess.2-2 says "the day of Christ is at hand"KJV. My research shows that to be"the day of the Lord is present" They thot they were in the Great Tribulation already.Some say the Day of the Lord Jesus Christ ICor1:8;5-5; 11Cor1:14; Phil 1:6,10; 2:16 is different than the day of the Lord. I seen a 198? Arnold teaching Sunday and he said Lazarus and the rich man was"JUST a parable" I never heard him say that before!
Hugh Latimer. When you go online put in Hugh Latimer in the search area. Then select Hugh Latimer on the Wikipedea. The reason I want you you to check this out is to show how deceptive Arnold can be when he don't believe a doctrine. He always mentions this retarded girl or this sick girl that came up with this doctrine. Les Feldick has a website you can find in the search area. I haven't had cable for 7 years. Dish is cheaper. And there's alot more beggars on it. Arnold Don't have to beg.$5atape
Hummm....csat82414, This must be the video that didn't get posted for you earlier. I saw it AFTER I posted that I would check out oraclesofGod. I'll also check out Hugh Latimer. I think my brother may have mentioned him to me. Are you saying that the Mary McDonald story isn't true ? By the way, Mormon ?.....I think NOT ! I do not 100% agree with Pastor Murray's opinions either. But his bible knowledge far weighs those opinions.
The mcdonald story may be true but the way Arnold tells it she's the originator of it. It acually started in the 1st century Church. Read Mark 13. It's not talking about 1 event. There's several events mentioned starting at 70AD to the millennium. And not one group of people but 2.God still has a covenant with Isreal to fulfill. And Satan knows if he prevents that he wins. Arnold says your gonna go before the antichrist speak in tongues then he's gonna pat you on your back and send flowers.
"He still compares God in 3 persons to satan. Blasphemy!"
The Bible Itself shows how Satan attempts to imitate qualities of God. This is not "blasphemy", this is reality. ROCK (Deu. 32:31) God: Deu. 32:4, 15, 18, 30. Satan: Ezek. 28 (Tyrus = rock, Heb. Tsor). MORNING STAR Christ: Rev. 22:16 Satan: Isa. 14 LIGHT Christ: John 8:12; 9:5. Satan: 2 Cor. 11:14 BRANCH Christ: Zech. 6:12; 9:9. Isa. 40:9; 42:1. Satan: Isa. 14:19.
Did anyone hear Dennis teach Psalms while Pastor Arnold Murray was out during recovery? Was it not awesome? How can anyone listen to him teach Psalms and not know that it is coming from God? Am I alone on this?
I heard Dennis say Mary was conceived by "Our Lord Jesus Christ" I heard Arnold say, back in the 1980's, that we would be in the millenium in the year 2000. They broadcast 24 hours a day on the big dish, so you hear alot more and see alot more. Pastor Arnold Murrays recovery. Do you mean his hair replacement? Check out II Timothy 4-3and4 and you'll understand Shepard's Chapel.
The runestone was the vikings back in the 1300's in america. They just proved it was a hoax. The behemoth he said was a dinosaur in the 1st earth age has a navel. Dinosaurs have no navel. I agree with him 100 percent on his politics. But his theology is pretty weird. He is also causing dissension among Christians. If I walked up to Jesus and asked him, what must I do to be saved and Jesus said you must be born from a spirit body to a flesh body, I would say I have been. Now what must I do?
csat82414, I understand what you are saying here, BUT, remember God told us ALL things BEFORE we were born of flesh, and I'm sure he told us WHY we had to be born of flesh. Navel on a dinosaur? Surely you misunderstood him. But could it not be possible, or is it because they were cold-blooded? Please keep in mind that he has studied the bible because he needed truth that no preacher has ever been able to answer for him. Now, to me, everything makes sense with the bible. Dissension? Truth will.
You can't just take one man's word or you might end up being a Mormon. If I misunderstood Arnold there's always 2 or 3 replays a day that I get it right. On Dish Network he's on from 1am-10am on Colours. Then 10am to 4pm on C&T. Then on the Big Dish 24 hours a day. Are you sure we were angels? The Mormons believe we were spirit children. The churches of Christ think the great Tribulation happened in 70AD.Darwin Fish(his real name) was deceived until he got it right. Now he's the only one right.
O.K. csat82414, NOW I've got it! NOW I see! I know EXACTLY what the problem is. Just as I thought...You've been watching Pastor Murray on satellite, through several channels, a show here and a show there.... and THAT'S where the CONFUSOIN is coming from. You can't do that ! It will not make sense that way, just like a letter to you, if you just read a little bit of it here and there. Let me explain it THIS way. If you find a channel where he is starting a new book, from the very beginning...
cont...and you watch it EVERY day, you'll see that he starts at the very beginning of the chapter, reads EVERY word and explains in detail according to what the old manuscripts read, and as you know, he KNOWS his Hebrew, you will see that he reads and explains EVERY sentence in detail, from the beginning until the end of the chapter. Leaves NOTHING out. This way it will make perfect sense. NO time wasted what-so-ever! Yeah, THAT'S the way I like it !! Anything else csat82414?
I'll try this once more. It wouldn't take my comment. You can find out more about people by asking questions. So I watch the questions and answers the most. It's hard to listen to Bible teaching when you here untruths come out his mouth. Do your own study on tongues and see if you agree 100% with Arnold. Go to the website-oraclesofgod.come-he studied with Arnold for several years and bought all Arnolds tapes. He has email you can comment and he responds on his site. Or you can be led astray
csat82414, You are nice, I can tell, BUT---I have to tell you that I found Pastor Murray on TV one morning teaching Isaiah, listened for about 15 minutes, and I KNEW he was what I had been waiting for all these years. I will never change, because I KNOW this is where God wants me. The questions alone are good, but you will not be able to understand them UNLESS you listen to the bible chapter by chapter. He reads EVERY single word and explains it as he's reading it. HOW can THAT be wrong ?
I can tell your afraid to check out any of what I've shared with you or like you said before you don't know how to. If you can find You Tube you should be able to find any thing on the web. He reads EVERY single word but then comes up with his own interpretaion. That's not God's Word. He gets alot of it right, but the parts he gets wrong could damn a persons soul.
OK, csat82414, I'll go to the ORACLESOFGOD website and listen to this man with an open mind. I'll try to let you know on youtube my thoughts. Thank you for sharing info with me. I'll write to you as soon as I can. Keep checking youtube once in a while and look for me.
Neither does a naval have "force" (40:16). But muscles do, and the word translated "naval" can also mean "sinews" in the Strong's, and has been translated "muscles" in other translations.
One of those translations is by Christian Ginsberg, the translator of the Massorah Pastor Murray recommends. The other translation is a note in the Companion Bible. Your hasty non sequitur was amusing, though.
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Holy moley you gotta hear this. last night the holy ghost came to me, (or maybe it was the tooth fairy,) i don't know it was too dark to tell. but anyway he spoke to me in a deep echoing voice, he said i should spread the word of "BOB." BOB i said, he said "YES, BOB." i told him "i'm ready, i'm ready." he said, "thats perfect, now keep it up." then he disappeared back into the closet. thats one goofy ghost.
peace, lardo.
lardo444 1 year ago
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sherriedale1 3 years ago
csat82414, I have answered some of your ?'s on the ark. They might be on the 2nd page. They were not posted just right.
sherriedale1 3 years ago
It's over HERE too.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
You didn't answer my Gen 1:1. I've been watching the easter lesson and Arnold says it's from ishtar the queen of heaven. But when I research the historical teaching it says it started with eastre which was anglo-saxon, Germatic which migrated to England to Ireland. Arnold says saxon means Isaacs son which he is a member of that tribe. I can't seem to find a relation from eastre to ishtar. Any Ideas. I know I can't change your mind maybe you can change mine.
csat82414 4 years ago
OK, Here's my uneducated answer/opinion. I've thought about it. Maybe, just maybe, God created the universe first. And let's say that he made us next. Then, inhabited the Earth with dino's, prehistoric human figures etc. for His pleasure. Then WE were allowed to walk or visit the earth. THEN satan rebelled. Then, God decided to destroy THAT Earth Age, and make THIS one habitable for His children in their flesh bodies, since we couldn't live with dino's or prehistoric human figures, cont...
sherriedale1 4 years ago
cont...and now we are here to serve His purpose. Now, what that all boils down to in THIS case, is that he was speaking to the archangels and angels/children. And when he said "let's make "man" in "our" image," he wasn't speaking of US helping him, but just letting us in on his plans. Remember, He foretold us ALL things. Now, we could make another scenario with Him creating US first. But THAT'S the only way I can answer your ?. I saw the Easter show also...cont
sherriedale1 4 years ago
2nd cont...but that one is "old", but I guess God's Word never changes. The only thing I have done with Easter is to look it up in the Websters. Pagan holiday. Do you know if it has anything to do with Easter Island ?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
By the way, I'm sure you have already checked the "Strong's", but do you have a "Bullinger" companion bible? Appendix 4 tells of the Elohim. And on Easter, if you can use yahoo, then type in "Easter" with quotation marks, and it will take you to some sites. Now, scroll down to the 9th site and go to "Easter:it's origins & meanings", then scroll down to "the pagan origins of Easter", and go to it. It may have some info on it you haven't seen.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I don't have a companion bible,buy I can get it online. Before God created anything was there Father,Son,Holy Spirit? My Webster says Easter is the name of old Teutnic goddess of spring.Teutonic means,relating to the tall blond race characteristics of northern Europe.Sounds like the pastor.Same as Esau? I checked "Easter" did you check "Azusa St"? Easter is pagan but I can't find Ishtar and Easter as related.Did you notice Arnold wears his watch on his right arm and left. He must be confused.
csat82414 4 years ago
Well, I checked out Azusa St. I'm probably going to offend you on this one. I feel it is ALL "bull". Did I read it right to say in the first church on Azusa St., that their belief was that one had to speak in tongues before they were considered to possess the Holy Spirit? What exactly was it that you wanted to bring my attention to here? Are you Pentecostal? Do you speak in tongues also? Was it the gathering of the various kinds of people? That other denominations sprang from it, or what? cont.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
cont. Azusa...I'll bet that it is aiming at my bible teacher isn't it? How about you are trying to prove in some way that Mr. Murray is wrong about the speaking in tongues was the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, and speaking every ones lang. at one time, so they would ALL understand in their OWN language? Do you NOT believe this? It makes perfect sense to me, much more so than what took place on Azusa! Sounds like a little of Ishtar's parties to me. Answer some of my ?'s please. cont...
sherriedale1 4 years ago
If I'm not mistaken Arnold teaches that the miracle of tongues in Acts 2 was Peter was speaking in tongues, so the Spanish guy heard him in Spanish, the French guy heard him speak in French and the Etheopian heard him in speak in jive.That would mean the speaker didn't receive the miracle but the people that heard it did. Pentecostals believe it was the other way around. Peter was given the tongue of jive so the etheopian understood him. I'm just wondering why Arnold don't mention Azusa st.
csat82414 4 years ago
"If I'm not mistaken Arnold teaches that the miracle of tongues in Acts 2 was Peter was speaking in tongues, so the Spanish guy heard him in Spanish, the French guy heard him speak in French and the Etheopian heard him in speak in jive.That would mean the speaker didn't receive the miracle but the people that heard it did."
Why would it mean that?
PrinceWalter 3 years ago
Why wouldn't it mean that
csat82414 3 years ago
I could say, "Only the person with the gift of the Pentecostal tongue can utter words understood by everybody." That statement attributes the gift to the "speaker".
PrinceWalter 3 years ago
cont..Azusa/Ishtar...Well, I have found out some things. It's too much for me to tell you, but I have found that Easter got some how intertwined with a celebration connected to Ishtar. It explains it on these sites. EVERYTHING Pastor Murray told us is documented. Passover and Ishtar's celebration was around the same time, and her being favored by Egypt,Hebrews, and Assyrians along with the fact that it originated in Babylonia, says it all. I'm going to try to import this to your YouTube "mail".
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I checked out the near death. Wasn't that an old episode of star trek? I've been to those easter and ishtar sites. Didn't the priests pervert the Passover? I left one more comment but haven't seen it yet. I'll be back.
csat82414 4 years ago
In Acts"Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed?" There's a reason they ask that.But you can't receive the truth because Arnold won't let you.You become saved,you possess the Holy Spirit. In Acts they beleived the Baptism of the Spirit was the Spirit possess you.If you read Paul's teaching on tongues He teaches tongues in Church needs an interpretation(Same as prophecy) Tongues as a prayer language need no interpretation because your speaking to God.Read it yourself.
csat82414 4 years ago
Wow! and I thought I was deep. Well, on the NDE video, I'm figuring that you didn't believe her story. I can understand that, but she was saying that when they went into this "star", that it was like it was BEFORE the universe creation. If her story was to be true, then that would mean that WE were created BEFORE the universe right? It is something to think about. Anyway, about this "Holy Spirit" thing,...cont.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I was at the online Companion Bible and went to Matt.24:40 and realised E.W. was right about those in the field. Even Arnold says were suppose to be found working when Jesus returns. There in the field working aren't they? Noah and the Ark was taken to safety and those on the earth were left for judgement.The only thing is are the fallen angels gonna be down here doodelin women.Pentacostals teach if you pinch yourself and it hurts when Christ comes to earth it's not Christ it's antichrist.
csat82414 4 years ago
The Pentecost are correct about Antichrist. Yes, "those in the field" are representing the elect working for God in the time that satan is here. The others have been deceived by satan at this time (example: rapture people thinking satan was Jesus when he comes because they'll think it is Jesus here to "rapture" them away)and have already been taken by him. No more angel mixing after flood. I believe "David" was genetically huge because he was of the fallen angels line. But NOT sure on that one.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Don't let Arnold hear you say that about David.Were the 6 day flesh on the ark taken by 7 pairs or 1 pair? Why do you just skip over what I write. E.W. is right and Arnold is wrong.Did you get your rapture theory from the orbitingwebstar? Just kidden!
csat82414 4 years ago
Find my NEW "David" comment. It's here somewhere. No , I don't skip, I thought I was answering your ?'s. You sometimes have to look around for them.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
1 pair of each race on ark. 1 pair of each kind of animal, and so forth. It reads in the bible somewhere, that there are many different KINDS of flesh. Flesh of man, flesh of beast, etc. Therefore, when Noah was instructed to take "Two of ALL flesh" aboard, naturally, logically, it meant people too. You see God didn't want the mixed breeds, I feel, because he intended for the races to stay pure, like he made them. But just like Adam and Eve, we cannot behave and do what's right, can we?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I made a mistake here. I meant to say Goliath was HUGE, NOT David!
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Holy Spirit cont...Pastor Murray knows that when you receive Christ that you also receive the Holy Spirit. I Can't receive the truth? "Arnold" won't let me? What exactly IS the truth csat82414? Please tell me, I'm SURE YOU'll let me. WHY do you try so hard to convince me? If I go to a local church, with 60% socializing, 5% singing, 5% teaching, 10% opinion on that 5% teaching, and 15% bull, then what do I have? NOTHING. Any other suggestions? cont...
sherriedale1 4 years ago
The truth is,Christ was on this earth 2000 years and it took that long for God to reveal the real truth thru one so called scholar when there are hundreds of so called scholars that couldn't disagree more, For every word in the strongs there seems to be several meanings for the same word.Touch can mean to lie with a women.But not always.People say the Ark wasn't large enough for all the animals let alone the unclean 6 day creation. I say unclean because 7 of each, there wouldn't be enough room.
csat82414 4 years ago
Now, I want you to read this TWICE so I will know you haven't just skimmed it. Those scholars do NOT have a gift from God as MR.Murray does. They probably agree together, because they want to "roll with the flow" so to speak. Pastor Murray is the type of man that stands on his own. He doesn't care WHO it offends, world or whoever. Truth was kept secret until this LAST generation. He was hand picked from God out of those hundreds you are speaking of. I KNOW you don't believe me, I know you don't.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
And, csat82414, Does it not make sense to you that Satan seduced her because he KNEW that it would take more than just words to convince her? You KNOW the deception he used on her is older than the book itself, because we both know that men are the same today as they were then. Satan knew exactly what he was doing. That's why she wanted to cover herself. I'm mighty afraid there was no apple involved in this one. Now, about the ark; if you think about it, there were probably not as many .....
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Ark cont...not as many races on the planet then, as we have today. We probably got many, many, more after 6000 years of mixing different kinds of races. Therefore, If there were let's say, only 10 different races on the planet in Noah's day, that would only be 20 people to take aboard the ark as God instructed. So that would be possible. I'm not sure how many races we have today. By the way, does "csat82414" stand for C-can't S-stand A-arnold's T-teaching, 82414?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
It would be"ceat82414" can't except arnold's teaching. The c is my first name and sat is for satellite. I've been installing dishes since 1985, where I first met Arnold. His satellite is in the middle of the arc of satellites. So when I saw him I new were I was at. I just didn't realise were he was.Didn't Noah offer the people to come into the Ark and they refused,or was that the movie I saw? But Arnold says it was to keep people out of the Ark. Which is it?
csat82414 4 years ago
Hly Sprt. cont2...Personally, I feel that the one with the Holy Spirit was the one speaking in All the diff. lang. AT ONE TIME. The people there HEARD what was being spoken in their own lang., NOT because they were receiving the Holy Spirit in order to hear it that way, but because the Holy Spirit was coming through the speaker. BUT, I do feel the Holy Spirit was there among ALL of them. If MR. Murray was like Benny Sinn, Leroy Jenkins, John Hagee, etc; I wouldn't give him the time of day.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Star Trek? I see you didn't take that video seriously. I would feel the same way, but she just doesn't strike me as someone lying. I'm VERY skeptical when it comes to something like this. But I personally do have reasons to know that what you saw on that video could have truth. I won't say anymore on it.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I was gonna tell you I have a picture of cloven tongues of fire my mom took in the A.O.G. church back in 1960 when I was 7. There was a choir that came from the A.O.G. Bible college fron N.D. and all the pictures she took of the choir hand them resting on the choir and the conductor. I can send you a copy if you tell me how send it thru you tube. She also took a picture of a sunrise when we lived on a ranch in Wy and when she got it developed there was an image of Jesus where nothing was before.
csat82414 4 years ago
cont. Arnold did a boo-boo today. He was standing up preaching from Luke 17. He has a maroon coat on.Did you catch it.I have it recorded on my DVR.This weekend on the big dish he said antichrist comes at the 5th seal,course that was probably an honest mistake. But the Luke 17 mistake was a biggy. I woulda been 8 when my mom took the tongues of fire picture and 10 at the Jesus Pic.
csat82414 4 years ago
Hey, csat82414, I'm here.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Humm, I'd really like to see that. I'll have to ask my son if he can show me how to send it thru YouTube. I know "Arny" as you call him makes mistakes, But when his attention is brought to it he does publicly apologize for it. Please DON"T read OVER this. It was late when I posted the "David" being HUGE comment. I was thinking of David and Goliath, and somehow wrote David's name INSTEAD of Goliath's. Another honest mistake. I'm so glad you caught that so I could clear it up. cont...start with A.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
A. No, I didn't see the Luke 17 show. You see, I have cable, so I see his LIVE show only. It comes on at 5 and 6 in the mornings. Same show twice. He is in Cor.1 now; and see I'll follow that book until he's completely thru with it. Some one corrected him on his mistake I'm sure. Recorded it? Next time someone like me says.." he didn't say that", you can come back at them can't you? He did mean the 6th seal. My son said we could not use youtube for the picture, but, he suggested...cont B
sherriedale1 4 years ago
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csat82414 4 years ago
They came back.
csat82414 4 years ago
That's SO funny. They always disappear and come back for me too. I think they take them and arrange them in order, especially if they are as long winded as ours are sometimes. I've read your response, but I'll have to respond in a while. Back later.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
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sherriedale1 4 years ago
Anybody that would buy all of Arnolds tapes is a nut case,so I agree with you. Arnold teaches in John 8:44 these are kenites Jesus is talking to because murderer is mentioned and cain murdered Abel.The Devil, Satan caused man to die a physical death and spiritual death. He is the murderer Jesus is talking about. It has nothing to do with cain. Strong's #1228 says "specifically SATAN" 1228 refers to Satan in every passage Satan is referred to. 1140 refers to demon's. Who are the demons?IGot more!
csat82414 4 years ago
csat82414----Didn't you grasp a thing I wrote to you ? We are not on the same page ! I tape Pastor Murray everyday to keep and share. And YES, I WOULD buy all his and Dennis's tapes even at the reasonable price of ---what did you say 5.00 ? TRUTH IS PRICELESS !
sherriedale1 4 years ago
That's the problem. Not all is truth that is being taught."Your of your father the devil"Arnold teaches that is cain to promote his kenite doctrine. Moses's father-in-law was a kenite for where he lived not because he was the offspring of cain.Arnold says the church has to preach who the kenites are. Paul preaches Christ and Him crucified. Were not on the same page because you don't trust anyone but Arnold. Were to watch for Christs return not Satans. Who are the evil spirits? you didn't answer.
csat82414 4 years ago
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sherriedale1 4 years ago
No man knows the hour or the day. They would be watching if they did. Were you watching Arnolds ?and answer,when the person said Jesus comes back to raise the witnesses from the dead.Arnold yes.and at the battle of Armageddon,yes.The witnesses are dead 3 days.I would know the day.Putin mentioned putting missiles in outer space. Lightning and fire from heaven.Antichrist might come in prosperous but he's gonna leave with the elect's heads.Rev:20-4:You answer my ? and I'll answer yours. Demons?
csat82414 4 years ago
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sherriedale1 4 years ago
The Jews-elect-are waiting for the messiah to return. They believe the antichrist is the messiah until he desecrates the temple. Rev:20-4 is talking about those killed in the tribulation for not worshiping antichrist. Arnold thinks this is all spiritual. For the sake of the elect no"flesh"saved.He makes war with the saints.That's not a spiritual war. The spiritual war started back in the garden,remember? The prophets said 42 months,how can Arnold change it to 5. the deciples died for Christ.
csat82414 4 years ago
I didn't mean you were the nut case. The oraclesofgod dude is.
csat82414 4 years ago
oh,...Ok, I'm glad you cleared that up. I printed off a lot of his documents to read because I promised I'd keep an open mind, but I can tell he doesn't know the bible in depth enough to teach it. Boy!, he sure spends a lot of his time degrading Pastor Murray's teachings. Wonder why he chooses Pastor Murray to pick on?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I don't know if I'd waste my ink on him. The question I asked was-Where does the demons or evil spirits come from? Yes I believe satan comes to this earth before Jesus does.That's the only way God can get the Jews to believe that Jesus was the messiah 2000 years ago.The reason I distrust Arnolds teachings is(not all cases)because when something is figurative he takes literal and visa-versa.Not because I think so because other Greek an Hebrew Scholars say so.And he judges those that disagree.
csat82414 4 years ago
Yes, he does think spiritually when referencing the bible. I was raised Baptist and they take everything literally. Not all scholars agree though, as you know. Demons ? I'll tell you, They're the evil spirits of satan and the 7000 that refused to be born in "flesh" that are chained in darkness until time for them to be released. They're bodies are chained, but they're evil spirits can still roam this earth, and enter people. The same way the Holy Spirit does, while God and Jesus sits on throne.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
For satan to send his spirit to posess someone he would have to be omnipresent,and only God has that ability. The 7000 are individual angels.There the ones that come to seduce women. That's Arnolds teaching. Strongs say evil spirits are angels.Devils are demons which are the angels that went with satan in heaven. Strong's says that. The Bible says that.Read it for yourself. Arnold says different and you believe him.Satan counterfeits God but he don't have the attributes that God has.Check it.
csat82414 4 years ago
yes, your right, but, the 7000 that sided with satan are the SAME angels that seduced the women. csat82414, WE were ALL angels before we were born in flesh. Old satan boy is an archangel. One of us is confused here. Now which is it ? THOSE 7000' spirits are free to roam the earth, and so is satan's. Do you think the 7000 have more power than satan ? And yes, I do believe him. I have read the same thing in the Strong's but I think it's still speaking of the 7000.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Those 7000 are held by Michael,according to Arnold. The evil spirits Jesus cast out were after he said get thee behind me satan.You and Arnold say satan can send his literal person in spirit to posess a person,but the Bible don't teach that. Are you saying satan has the same power as God? Actually evil spirits are tiny little monkey looking beings that fly out of the kenites butt and live in Gravett Arkansas.Did God create the earth in the 1st earth age then the angels or the angels first?
csat82414 4 years ago
cont: I didn't think that would take but it did.
csat82414 4 years ago
He must have REALLY made you mad or something for you to feel the way you do about him. I'm beginning to think it's personal. Am I right ? I guess we could go on and on about this but we are just going to buck heads. Did you see my message to you on the other video ? It's been interesting discussing the bible and Mr. Murray with you, but I guess you are fed up with this ole' "Murray" fan.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I was hoping he had the truth but after discerning the spirits he don't. I was watching his teaching on Rev.9 today(bar-code hair years)and the locusts were spiritual.Ezekiel seen a vision and it's some flying saucer. John was told to tell what he saw,and when he saw the locusts he could have seen a cobra helicopter. What's the difference between What Ezekiel saw and John? Like his view of murder.David commited murder.Liars robbers fornicators adulterors...don't have eternal life abiding in them
csat82414 4 years ago
You didn't check this one. I left out one thing There being held by David Murray the other brother.
csat82414 4 years ago
Who is being held, you mean the 7000 ? David ? That kitten ? No, I don't think so. Be careful, your showing true colors.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Little monkey beings.
csat82414 4 years ago
How can you say that. You know they are good people or they wouldn't spend so much time trying to help us learn the bible, even if you don't agree with him. I went to those sites and it seems to me it's still a bunch of educated opinions. Their guess is as good as Pastor Murray's I guess. I STILL think he knows what he's talking about, even if no one else shares my opinion. Little monkey beings....there IS no beings, it's All "spirits".
sherriedale1 4 years ago
And by the way, his hair looks great.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Then go to Matthew 23, where the offspring of the serpent are held accountable for the "blood of righteous Abel".
PrinceWalter 3 years ago
Any body that would buy all the tapes is a nut case,I agree with you. John 8:44 Arnold teaches these are kenites Jesus is talking to because murderer is mentioned and cain killed abel. Satan,the devil, caused man to die a physical death and a Spiritual death. That's the murderer Jesus is talking about. Strong's #1228 says specifically Satan not cain.#1140 refers to demons. Who are the demon's? They can't be fallen angels. Satan can't create beings. There are alot more in the Bible to discredit A
csat82414 4 years ago
Oh I understand Shepherd's Chapel alright, csat82414. I understand that you didn't realize he meant we were coming up on a new millennium age, NOTHING to do with the "Lord's Day" thousand year reign. And Dennis said no such a thing. People are always misunderstanding what the Murrays' say because they simply watch bits and pieces here and there and just DYING to here ONE word out of text!Oh,.. And his hair isn't any of our business!
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Do you have a big dish that you can see shepherd's chapel broadcasts back in the 1980's? I've installed satellite dishes since 1985 and have a big dish plus dishnetwork. His documentories on the Bat creek Stone and the runestone he says proves ancient Hebrews were here in America are hoaxes. Dennis said it. notice the updates on his tapes. I wanted to believe what he was saying but if you watch as much as I do of his teaching, along with a Strong's Concordance, you'll see the mistakes.
csat82414 4 years ago
csat82414---I've watched them for 10 years everyday because I tape it everyday and keep the tapes. I know what you're talking about when you say the "bat Creek Stone" documentaries, but are you saying the Hebrews were or were not here. And what was Dennis saying exactly?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
The documentaries are on the big dish on the weekends, plus the early teachings in the 80's. Dennis was answering question's and his answer was Mary was conceived by our Lord Jesus Christ. He also said the trinity is offices like satan has offices. The serpent, beast, antichrist etc. He still compares God in 3 persons to satan. Blasphemy! Take this 9 mm ta that boy. Arnold ? do you think we will be in the millenium in 2000? Arnold YES. This was 198? Search is the bat creek stone fake + runeston
csat82414 4 years ago
I hear what you are saying csat82414, but I have never heard them say anything like this or insinuate it. This is not to say YOU didn't hear it though. They teach the bible in a way that completely makes sense to me. They're probably the closest teachers we will ever have on "deep bible study". They just seem to have such good common sense (excluding the gun incident, which I feel there's more than meets the eye and ear). People comprehend their teachings differently I've learned.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Les Feldick teaches chapter by chapter and verse by verse but would disagree with Arnold.I? his teaching on tongues-3 chances to make it to heaven and no eternal torment,but hope he's right- the great tribulation,the Elect can't be deceived but God shortens it because they are-Cain,kenites because cain is also place in Palestine-The Flood,early teachings were"no worldwide flood because kenites survived" now it is worldwide but part of all flesh on the ark. Search Hugh Latimer an do wikipedia.
csat82414 4 years ago
Who's Les Feldick? Do you agree with him more? Pastor Murray has NEVER taught that "there are 3 chances to make it to Heaven". Where do you get that from? He teaches (because the bible teaches) that the people who never had the opportunity to know God's plan in this Earth's Age, will be taught in the 1000 year reign of Christ--which is a teaching period. This is why Satan is in the pit for the 1000 years, so they can learn truth without his interference. Aren't you "flesh" too csat82414?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
He comes on angel one 9;00 am MT weekdays. Not 100%His teachings are at his website. Abraham and Lazarus made it in the flesh,so the rich man had a chance-1st-Jesus went a preached to the rich man and others on the wrong side of the gulf-2nd- then those that don't believe on the wrong side of the gulf gets a chance during the 1000 yrs.3rd. I guess we get 2 chances. I thot that's why we were in these flesh bodys, to decide if we would accept Christ or satan. Did you check out Hugh Latimer?
csat82414 4 years ago
No, csat82414, I didn't check him out because I don't know how to find him, but I did find one video on you-tube with Les Feldick and I couldn't hear it to well but he sounded like he had good common sense and I like his sincerity. I do not have satellite, I have cable and don't usually watch preachers/teachers on TV because they are either begging for money or trying to give me their insignificant opinions. I just love to read and study the bible, I don't need their "opinions", do you?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Good theology is getting many opinions,so you can interpret the Word correctly.2nd Thess.2-2 says "the day of Christ is at hand"KJV. My research shows that to be"the day of the Lord is present" They thot they were in the Great Tribulation already.Some say the Day of the Lord Jesus Christ ICor1:8;5-5; 11Cor1:14; Phil 1:6,10; 2:16 is different than the day of the Lord. I seen a 198? Arnold teaching Sunday and he said Lazarus and the rich man was"JUST a parable" I never heard him say that before!
csat82414 4 years ago
Hugh Latimer. When you go online put in Hugh Latimer in the search area. Then select Hugh Latimer on the Wikipedea. The reason I want you you to check this out is to show how deceptive Arnold can be when he don't believe a doctrine. He always mentions this retarded girl or this sick girl that came up with this doctrine. Les Feldick has a website you can find in the search area. I haven't had cable for 7 years. Dish is cheaper. And there's alot more beggars on it. Arnold Don't have to beg.$5atape
csat82414 4 years ago
Hummm....csat82414, This must be the video that didn't get posted for you earlier. I saw it AFTER I posted that I would check out oraclesofGod. I'll also check out Hugh Latimer. I think my brother may have mentioned him to me. Are you saying that the Mary McDonald story isn't true ? By the way, Mormon ?.....I think NOT ! I do not 100% agree with Pastor Murray's opinions either. But his bible knowledge far weighs those opinions.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I think the girl's name was Margarette McDonald---not Mary....my mistake.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
The mcdonald story may be true but the way Arnold tells it she's the originator of it. It acually started in the 1st century Church. Read Mark 13. It's not talking about 1 event. There's several events mentioned starting at 70AD to the millennium. And not one group of people but 2.God still has a covenant with Isreal to fulfill. And Satan knows if he prevents that he wins. Arnold says your gonna go before the antichrist speak in tongues then he's gonna pat you on your back and send flowers.
csat82414 4 years ago
"He still compares God in 3 persons to satan. Blasphemy!"
The Bible Itself shows how Satan attempts to imitate qualities of God. This is not "blasphemy", this is reality. ROCK (Deu. 32:31) God: Deu. 32:4, 15, 18, 30. Satan: Ezek. 28 (Tyrus = rock, Heb. Tsor). MORNING STAR Christ: Rev. 22:16 Satan: Isa. 14 LIGHT Christ: John 8:12; 9:5. Satan: 2 Cor. 11:14 BRANCH Christ: Zech. 6:12; 9:9. Isa. 40:9; 42:1. Satan: Isa. 14:19.
PrinceWalter 3 years ago
Or making friends and influencing people. Didn't mean to take Arnold out of context.
csat82414 3 years ago
Do you come with a commentary
csat82414 3 years ago
Did anyone hear Dennis teach Psalms while Pastor Arnold Murray was out during recovery? Was it not awesome? How can anyone listen to him teach Psalms and not know that it is coming from God? Am I alone on this?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I heard Dennis say Mary was conceived by "Our Lord Jesus Christ" I heard Arnold say, back in the 1980's, that we would be in the millenium in the year 2000. They broadcast 24 hours a day on the big dish, so you hear alot more and see alot more. Pastor Arnold Murrays recovery. Do you mean his hair replacement? Check out II Timothy 4-3and4 and you'll understand Shepard's Chapel.
csat82414 4 years ago
The runestone was the vikings back in the 1300's in america. They just proved it was a hoax. The behemoth he said was a dinosaur in the 1st earth age has a navel. Dinosaurs have no navel. I agree with him 100 percent on his politics. But his theology is pretty weird. He is also causing dissension among Christians. If I walked up to Jesus and asked him, what must I do to be saved and Jesus said you must be born from a spirit body to a flesh body, I would say I have been. Now what must I do?
csat82414 4 years ago
csat82414, I understand what you are saying here, BUT, remember God told us ALL things BEFORE we were born of flesh, and I'm sure he told us WHY we had to be born of flesh. Navel on a dinosaur? Surely you misunderstood him. But could it not be possible, or is it because they were cold-blooded? Please keep in mind that he has studied the bible because he needed truth that no preacher has ever been able to answer for him. Now, to me, everything makes sense with the bible. Dissension? Truth will.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
You can't just take one man's word or you might end up being a Mormon. If I misunderstood Arnold there's always 2 or 3 replays a day that I get it right. On Dish Network he's on from 1am-10am on Colours. Then 10am to 4pm on C&T. Then on the Big Dish 24 hours a day. Are you sure we were angels? The Mormons believe we were spirit children. The churches of Christ think the great Tribulation happened in 70AD.Darwin Fish(his real name) was deceived until he got it right. Now he's the only one right.
csat82414 4 years ago
O.K. csat82414, NOW I've got it! NOW I see! I know EXACTLY what the problem is. Just as I thought...You've been watching Pastor Murray on satellite, through several channels, a show here and a show there.... and THAT'S where the CONFUSOIN is coming from. You can't do that ! It will not make sense that way, just like a letter to you, if you just read a little bit of it here and there. Let me explain it THIS way. If you find a channel where he is starting a new book, from the very beginning...
sherriedale1 4 years ago
cont...and you watch it EVERY day, you'll see that he starts at the very beginning of the chapter, reads EVERY word and explains in detail according to what the old manuscripts read, and as you know, he KNOWS his Hebrew, you will see that he reads and explains EVERY sentence in detail, from the beginning until the end of the chapter. Leaves NOTHING out. This way it will make perfect sense. NO time wasted what-so-ever! Yeah, THAT'S the way I like it !! Anything else csat82414?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Now you've got it. I guess you don't me.
csat82414 4 years ago
it won't take my comment
csat82414 4 years ago
I'll try this once more. It wouldn't take my comment. You can find out more about people by asking questions. So I watch the questions and answers the most. It's hard to listen to Bible teaching when you here untruths come out his mouth. Do your own study on tongues and see if you agree 100% with Arnold. Go to the website-oraclesofgod.come-he studied with Arnold for several years and bought all Arnolds tapes. He has email you can comment and he responds on his site. Or you can be led astray
csat82414 4 years ago
csat82414, You are nice, I can tell, BUT---I have to tell you that I found Pastor Murray on TV one morning teaching Isaiah, listened for about 15 minutes, and I KNEW he was what I had been waiting for all these years. I will never change, because I KNOW this is where God wants me. The questions alone are good, but you will not be able to understand them UNLESS you listen to the bible chapter by chapter. He reads EVERY single word and explains it as he's reading it. HOW can THAT be wrong ?
sherriedale1 4 years ago
I can tell your afraid to check out any of what I've shared with you or like you said before you don't know how to. If you can find You Tube you should be able to find any thing on the web. He reads EVERY single word but then comes up with his own interpretaion. That's not God's Word. He gets alot of it right, but the parts he gets wrong could damn a persons soul.
csat82414 4 years ago
OK, csat82414, I'll go to the ORACLESOFGOD website and listen to this man with an open mind. I'll try to let you know on youtube my thoughts. Thank you for sharing info with me. I'll write to you as soon as I can. Keep checking youtube once in a while and look for me.
sherriedale1 4 years ago
Don't stop there. Keep going.
csat82414 4 years ago
"Dinosaurs have no navel."
Neither does a naval have "force" (40:16). But muscles do, and the word translated "naval" can also mean "sinews" in the Strong's, and has been translated "muscles" in other translations.
PrinceWalter 3 years ago
If your an Arnold Murray nut you should know the other translations were done by kenites. Just takin names and influencing people.
csat82414 3 years ago
One of those translations is by Christian Ginsberg, the translator of the Massorah Pastor Murray recommends. The other translation is a note in the Companion Bible. Your hasty non sequitur was amusing, though.
PrinceWalter 3 years ago