they should hand out needles and have a class on how to use it safely. 75 students with over 100 grand in drugs, weapons and cash. Institute of lower living more than a college campus.
@GoldenRing1989 or stay in kentucy and drop out of school, or NY and eat street meat, or nevada and prostitute yourself, or florida and grow old, or michigan and get preggers at 15, or rhode island and speak french, or georga and join KKK, have I hit where you live yet?
@GoldenRing1989 im not going to respond to any of your disrespectful rant towards CA. even though your puttin a target on your back to be responded to by anyone with a high school education. im a CAian. i dont fit your narrow minded cereal reference. but isnt the point your missing is that their should be a state (of mind) (not ironic their called states) for every type of american you have a choice to stay in Texas and execute the mentally retarded or Utah and marry 3 wives. Do u see now?
@GoldenRing1989 lmao enforce the laws is that what you think the drug war is??? the founding fathers never wanted to let the goverment have this much control the drug war is just a bureaucracy that instills fear into the mind of there citizens so we think theyre doing something so important that we should pay for it. go suck your dads trailer trash chode
@MrDv23 You are wrong about the founding fathers; they themselves were deceptive and wrote the constitution in secret to hide it from the people in the area. The language used in the constitution was deceptively written on purpose. Did you know we still pay millions if not billions in recompensatory tithes to England each year! It is all fraud and deception, trust no one but your loved ones.
i am marijuana smoke and a marijuana legalzation advocate but i support this drug raid if there is LA gang members setting up a narcortic ring in side a college then go bust there ass
i think that the frat boys selling hydro isnt the issue i dont think there bad but cocaine on the other hand is fucked up
ssdp is fucking retarded schools not prisons?? what dumb ass logo
no one goes to prison for smoking marijuana they get a year on probation
The Bushes were so anti-drug and pro-prohibition because they had direct links to Texas drug traffickers. South Texas drug traffickers are some of the wealthiest dealers in the USA.
God Gave Us Marijuana to use...Genesis ch 3 vs 29 says "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth..."
Vs 31 then says " And God saw every thing that he had made "including Marijuana", and , behold, it was Very good.
Rev.13.vs 10 states that " He who leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity."
It would help the economy. It would (and already has) cure cancer. Search Rick Simpson. It would replace... Wood for paper Oil for fuel Oil for plastic Fish Oil Pressboard Cotton Makeup Kemo Therapy The list of good from this plant is insane. This is just off the top of my head.
I think point of the video is that these kids are doing this for "whatever reason." I know why they're doing it: Money, and Sex. Drugs in illegality are a commodity that can be readily invested in by anyone that's cool enough to pass muster with the big sellers. SSDP's point I think is that if this commodity was Gov. regulated these kids would have to find some other way to make money and gain influence.
One cannot debate sensibly with people who sell illegal drugs. One of the students arrested asked if his arrest would affect his possibility of working in federal law enforcement? This is how ignorant these "smart" college kids are, to think that this was not that severe. I am not arguing with the fact that we need to do something, other than fill our prisons with people. This does not mean that we should let these people off scott-free. They still need to be punished, as anyone else would be.
Switzerland recently formalized an experimental program set up in the 90s, where heroin addicts, failing treatment, would receive pure heroin, cut with non-lethal substances, in a gov't lab, given a clean needle every time, and must do it in a safe building with medical supervisors nearby if something goes wrong.
It's worked tremendously well, crime committed by heroin users is down 60% since its implementation a victory the war on drugs can never achieve. Not only that but 2/3s of the users hold jobs and pay taxes
This is why the dealers/distributors should be punished. They feed off from others addiction. I have never argued that a user should be put behind bars. I remember being offered an "8-ball" years ago. If I had not known the dangers of addiction, I might have tried it. I could have been hooked, if I had tried the stuff. My point is, we definitely need to educate our kids so they do not take that first step. There are significant health risks (withdrawals) of just "locking up" drug abusers.
Of course drugs are dangerous, and we should educate people to their dangers; see how this has worked with tobacco, how after education its use has gone down. But you have to realize people have, and will always do drugs legal or illegal. Now ask yourself do you want these drugs to be controlled by gov't and business or violent criminals? The prohibition of drugs causes more violence than the drugs themselves.
Please realize that once you prohibit a substance you give up all control over it. Example: It is much easier to obtain heroin than Vicodin. I don't want anyone ruined by drugs bu this drug war has claimed so many lives, created so many drugs, given so much profit to the violent and wicked, imprisoned so many innocent or merely for possession(without intent to distribute), that reform of some kind must be made, as it is clear that the war on drugs cannot work.
Taxation and regulation is the key to fighting the drug problem. Addiction is a public health problem, not a criminal one. How is someone a criminal if all they do is overdose on meth, for instance? Who else are they endangering?? There is such a thing as responsible drug use, contrary to the propaganda the cops and teachers feed elementary school students in the useless D.A.R.E program.
do you really trust our government with regulating the drugs you take? ill trust the street dealers and their unknown substances before ill trust the government...
ok, i dont trust the government or the street dealers. but i do trust a private market where there is fair competition. the govt would regulate the laws, not make the product. it would be just like alcohol except instead of Jack Daniels you'd have Jack-Smokes-Alot. lol! so yeah legalization, regulation, taxation, and decriminalization are all needed. plus taxing would get us outa this huge deficit.
The term "drug culture" is like saying there's an "alcohol culture" on campus. Sure, a lot of people drink, esp. young people, but that's because they LIKE to! A lot of young people and people in general like to get drunk or high. The term "alcohol culture" or "drug culture" somehow implies that since so many people do it, they're gonna force everyone else to get high or drink, and everyone in class will be stoned or drunk. How about "cigarette culture"? Never hear that term.
What's this "drug culture" bullshit on the headline? There's no such thing as a "drug culture!" Most people do drugs because they want to. That whole peer pressure thing is largely a myth. There aren't dealers standing right outside every school trying to force you to toke up. They're not harassing potential buyers. They're like any other salesman.
So many lies are told about drugs and the drug war in this country. You're expected to believe that even if you do it once, you can die.
Our culture in America is so damn afraid of drugs, it's insane! We have this irrational and paranoid fear of drugs, even responsible drug use. Yes, there are addicts, but there are still quite a few people who don't OD and go to the hospital. There are people who do coke or weed and live productive lives. And what about alcohol or cigarettes? They kill way more people than illegal drugs. Drunk driving kills thousands, while no one has ever died from "high driving."
All drugs should be legalized. Not only because the law has no real deterrent effect, but because legalisation means CONTROL. Today we give criminals and terrorists 100% control of this market, which means NO FUCKING CONTROL AT ALL. If you support prohibition, you support terrorists with the third larges market in the world (after weapons and oil). Be proud.
dude i prefer that the government handles the drugs than the drug dealers....and marijuana dose not cause overdose, only real drugs, like crak and coke, and to the people who are adicted need help, and no prison.....
dude oviusly no doctor will prescibe it! don't be an ignorant, do you think a little kid raised in the ghetto who sees drugs everyday, and sees people buy the bad drugs,crak,heroin,meth, what is he going to think,? that drugs are not bad..it is better and safer for everybody that the government to have it.
dude oviusly no doctor will prescibe it! don't be an ignorant, do you think a little kid raised in the ghetto who sees drugs everyday, and sees people buy the bad drugs,crak,heroin,meth, what is he going to think,? that drugs are not bad..it is better and safer for everybody that the government to have it.
I know, but they have no problem perscribing Speed (Adderal), Cystal meth (Desoxyn), SSRIs (Xanax, Paxil, Prozac), Opiates (Oxycodone, Codeine, Morphine).
I think what PartVIII is trying to say is that people can get addicted to opiates and other drugs much more easily than cannabis. And you can't overdose marijuana, and it isn't physically addicting. Many people are prescribed oxycotin for chronic pain, and end up turning into a drug addict. If we prescribed those people marijuana instead, it would be much safer.
Controlled Alcohol = No Violence. Alcohol abuse = Violence. Smoking = Cancer. Controlled Smoking = Cancer. Controlled Marijuana = Opens your mind ? (NO it only makes you think your smarter) Marijuana abuse = Retardation. I say you can keep your open minds, and Retardation. If your willing to give up Violence Cancer and so on..
Hickville drugs that kill, and DONT HELP WILL NEVER BE LEGALIZED and terrorist only make and sell the killing kind of drugs. So to legalize killer drugs is stupid , because you would only be killing people. And If you don't support prohibition you support killing. And your WRONG the I don't support terrorist, it the people who buy and sell those kind of drugs that support them. So next time get it right.
"The killing kind of drugs"? You're completely ignorant on this issue, and should probably educate on yourself on it before you embarass yourself further. Heroin is a relatively benign drug given in clean, controlled dosages, as evidenced by the policies put in place across Europe . Drugs become A LOT more dangerous when they are illegal, and it also drives those that get addicted (only a minority of users of ANY drug btw) to commit crimes to support their habit. We all loose. Especially addicts
Heroin is HIGHLY addictive any educate person would know why its is prohibited for medical use in most countries. Apparently it is you that is ignorant because there are a lot of Heroin addicts that have die in EUROPE of all places. A place that is also addicted to opium, and guess what OPIUM is one of the best drug sources of money for Terrorists . Just ask any soldier
You do know that this government ships most of the heroin into this country right? Oh so convenient that once the Taliban is gone, opium starts growing once again. All that terrorist nonsense is the biggest lie...oh its controlled by terrorists alright, yeah, but you wont find them hiding in caves in Afghanistan....no they are hiding in plain sight right there in Washington and on Wall Street. The drug war is simply a cash machine for the Prison/Industrial complex.
so im assuming youre against needle exchange programs to reduce the spread of AIDS and other diseases?? lol
and if u dont mind me asking...what drugs have u done? or do u just like to banter about things in which u have no personal experience? i dont sky dive...so i dont give my opinions on how to do it safely, par examplar. (thats french for "for example")
Medicine in moderation, can save lives. If you want to believe that the extensive use of cigarettes, methamphetamines, crackis not dangerous, then your wrong. I dont pour gas on my nuts, and then set myself on fire..so I dont give my opinions on how to do it safely.
Gee what was your point, Lets all experiment because its fun right ? and its not like anyone is going to get addicted, and get long term damage over this stuff right ? How old are you 14 ?
my overall point is that the system in place right now hasnt, isnt, and will never work. ppl are still getting killed and the prison systems are over flowing while our tax dollars pay for it. yet some peopl (ie. you) are too stuck up ur own morally high assholes to see that changing things would cut down on crime, disease, and corruption. but oh no! you want to sit on ur high horse and judge ppl that r different from you n tell them how to live. and guess where it gets us? NO WHERE!
The system doesnt work because little children cant control themselves , and off the bat parents dont enforce anything, Teachers and security guards, would rather rape and beat them, than help them; in the worse geography of the world throughout history, the constant abuse of good people has more often than not made them evil. People turn to drugs when they have problems in life, hoping for relief, but they only find more despair.
thats a very naive statement. not all ppl using drugs find themselves looking for relief. im completely happy with my life and i use drugs. im in college, have a stable relationship, and a loving family. ive been disciplined all my life by my parents(i ALWAYS say mam and sir). im an avid horseback rider and compete in show jumping. and i made all A's last semester. idk why u assume everyone who does drugs is miserable because i and many ppl i know certainly are not...so there goes your theory
not all ppl using drugs find themselves looking for relief. sure not the ones that die from it, or the ones that currently suffer from prolonged use. And If your talking about Marijuana dont waste your time, I discarded that issue a long time ago. If your and friends are real immune to the effects crack and methamphetamines, then I would really love to see the scientific study on that.
so ur agreeing that legalizing marijuana is a potential solution? because thats what this entire argument has been about and now ur just agreeing with me anyway. lol! do u kno where u really stand on anything at all??
NO its not what the whole argument was about , and if you read back and see what I was posting then youll know. Like I told you I discarded only that issue a long time ago, and that was pending that research would show that there was no serious side effects.
No The SDSU Drug Bust was about more Then marijuana they found other illegal drugs, and even stolen prescription drugs. There is more information out there. You can even see some of the other stuff in the video.
If Cops would stop taking bribes, if security guards would stop getting stoned with little kids, and if people with just stop poping out kids (that they arent going to take care of ) then we wouldnt have such a big drug problem. And giving people false hope is not the solution.
sounds like ur waiting for pigs to fly my friend...youre right, if ppl would be moral then things would be great. but ppl arent going to get more moral. cops arent gonna stop taking bribes because they dont get paid shit. and ppl arent gonna stop having kids. like ive stated, u cant legislate morals. ur still to busy judging ppl to look for a rational solution. stop being bitter and start thinking how to really help the situation. instead of just pointing out the problem, try to fix it
Whats with the double talk ? So the solution is people need to start doing the right thing the law needs to be enforce, But because some people are too Corrupt it is some how not the solution ? And WTF is wrong with judging anything ? You yourself are judging me.
u cant legislate morals dont have to its why we already have the laws in the first place.
And your statement that people dont get moral is arbitrary, because enforcing laws is how people learn to become moral.
im not double talking...thats what the law is trying to do, legislate morals. which makes no sense. ppl dont learn from laws, if they did we'd never have 2nd time offenders. and yes, because ppl r so corrupt it is NOT the solution. thats my point. ADDICTION is a medical issue not a law enforcement issue. there r no laws restricting the spread of disease, if u wana live unhealthy thats ur decision. lock up a dealer, someone else will take his place. its like trying to stop rain from falling.
People are not born knowing how to be moral or immoral, so morals are legislated to them; because if we never legislated anything before then no one would find anything wrong with killing, Stealing, rape, or murder. Morals are learned and become synonymous with the laws, of humanity in each and every nation. Laws must be enforced no matter how many people (drug dealers) want to break them.
actually ppl ARE born with an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. its called a conscience. basic psychology explains this. a normal person's brain patterns change when faced with words like killing, stealing, rape, or murder because they know (without man made law) that those things are wrong....where have you been for the past hundred years because that is common knowledge!
They learn what the emotions means from other humans, and react according. This intrinsic sense of right and wrong can, and is developed differently, some people get a rush out of doing what is generally considered to be wrong. And lets not forget the Psychopaths who wouldnt be considered to have ever been born with a conscience at all.
are u foreign? cuz i never fully understand what ur sentences mean...."They learn what the emotions means from other humans, and react according. "....what???
LOL ok monkey see monkey do is basically what I was saying there. Any doctor will tell you babies arent born knowing right from wrong, they learn by trail and error; and through out life it is still a learning process.
I'd say, a kid just knowing what death is, would automatically know killing others is wrong. Granted, they may have to learn through trial and error. As such, this shows their is preprogrammed moral system of a sort. Or, in general for most people. Some people by a genetic or environmental factor may not be able to relate or sympathize.
And there are laws restricting the spread of disease, if you get aids then you have to report it, if you knowingly infect any one with a virus then you are responsible.
yeah, the federal reserve is joke. the war is a lie. and bush is a rich man because of it! we all know, we just dont do anything about it... man, we're a bunch of suckers huh?
People will continue to buy drugs even though they are illegal. When taken that FACT into account, we the people and our politicians are indirectly supporting terrorists by giving them this extremely lucrative market. If you're completely naive and think we actually can do ANYTHING to stop this through law enforcement and propaganda, I can see why you think you're not supporting terrorists. But the reality is that prohibition against consensual crimes like this have little to NO effect.
You're brainwashed. Drug money does NOT go to terrorists in this country! If anything, the amount that does go to terrorists is a very SMALL portion. What do the terrorists in Afghanistan grow? OPIUM! There are a lot more drugs than just that. I'm pretty sure the inner-city dealers are doing it to enrich themselves, not give to al Qaeda.
The US has some of the most insane drug policies in the world. We have the most insane ones for a democracy, that's for sure. Prohibition never works.
Every kind of drug kills moron! Take thirteen aspirin and you're dead. prohibition kills HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS more than the actual illegal drugs. Prescription drugs kill more than all illegal drugs combined. Making ANYTHING illegal when there is demand for it will simply create a profitable black market run by violent criminals.
LOL "Take thirteen aspirin and you're dead." Wow LOL ya and if you eat too fast you can choke and die, whats your point that people too retarded like you to know how shit should work ? "Prescription drugs kill more than all illegal drugs combined." Wow So some people are stupid whats new ?
I guess we should illegalize the rape, sex slavery of women and little kids because there is demand for it, and if we dont violent criminals will simply create a profitable black market. No wait they already do that.
r u serious? rape and sex slavery are FORCED upon a person, unlike drugs,the ppl dont have a choice in the matter. and im sure if prostitution were legalized u'd see a drop in both. just like the demand for sex,the demand for drugs will always be there so fighting it is ridiculous. u cant legislate people's morals...if a motorcyclist doesnt want to wear a helmet then he shouldnt have to. yeah i'd say he's stupid, but its his right to be that way. my opinion shouldnt affect how he lives.
See my comments below on how gov't control and regulation of dangerous drugs like heroin is beneficial. No terrorist sells the poppy, cartel imports/refines it, no gang distributes it, the addicts never OD cause it is safely manufactured. No criminals profit from the trade because there is no longer a black market. Oh, and as for the herb=retard studies have shown that cannabinoids spur brain cell growth.
So I guess all those US soldiers were burning fields of the stuff just for the hell of it, and terrorist were bombing the shit out of them; not because they were losing money the fields just happen to be in the way ?"studies have shown that cannabinoids spur brain cell growth." source ? "Of course drugs are dangerous, and we should educate people to their danger" They know and they dont give a fuck some the fuckers what to die, you really think their are all uneducated ?
(University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon 2005 Xia Zhang) Prohibition creates artificial scarcity, interdiction creating inflated prices that turn a plant into something literally worth more than its weight in gold. Eradication punishes impoverished farmers who could be growing food for their country, while drug traffickers & warlords bribe local officials. With the failure of DARE, education seems unreliable; but if people will do drugs knowing the danger, why jail them for it? Victimless crime.
Not to mention our allies don't appreciate our efforts. Google :"US drug war endangers diggers" to see how our drug policies hurt our anti-Taliban efforts and cause tension with our allies. The more Poppies eradicated the more profit from cultivating them.
they should hand out needles and have a class on how to use it safely. 75 students with over 100 grand in drugs, weapons and cash. Institute of lower living more than a college campus.
gman411111111 10 months ago
@GoldenRing1989 or stay in kentucy and drop out of school, or NY and eat street meat, or nevada and prostitute yourself, or florida and grow old, or michigan and get preggers at 15, or rhode island and speak french, or georga and join KKK, have I hit where you live yet?
chefdsal1 1 year ago
@GoldenRing1989 im not going to respond to any of your disrespectful rant towards CA. even though your puttin a target on your back to be responded to by anyone with a high school education. im a CAian. i dont fit your narrow minded cereal reference. but isnt the point your missing is that their should be a state (of mind) (not ironic their called states) for every type of american you have a choice to stay in Texas and execute the mentally retarded or Utah and marry 3 wives. Do u see now?
chefdsal1 1 year ago
@GoldenRing1989 lmao enforce the laws is that what you think the drug war is??? the founding fathers never wanted to let the goverment have this much control the drug war is just a bureaucracy that instills fear into the mind of there citizens so we think theyre doing something so important that we should pay for it. go suck your dads trailer trash chode
MrDv23 1 year ago
@MrDv23 You are wrong about the founding fathers; they themselves were deceptive and wrote the constitution in secret to hide it from the people in the area. The language used in the constitution was deceptively written on purpose. Did you know we still pay millions if not billions in recompensatory tithes to England each year! It is all fraud and deception, trust no one but your loved ones.
princessjw1977 1 year ago
@GoldenRing1989 fuck you
zomgFletch 1 year ago
smoke weed. im from belton texas!
254DEUS254 1 year ago
Isn't drug use a personal choice? And, aren't personal choices a matter of Liberty?
atchisrj1 1 year ago 2
Its all true, drugs will always be there, if people want them, they will get them. ive got 2 fucked up charges. fuck these people.
BoneNBlaze 1 year ago
... and I had to shell out of pocket to get my teeth fixed because there is no health care in this country.
BigFishingShop 1 year ago
i am marijuana smoke and a marijuana legalzation advocate but i support this drug raid if there is LA gang members setting up a narcortic ring in side a college then go bust there ass
i think that the frat boys selling hydro isnt the issue i dont think there bad but cocaine on the other hand is fucked up
ssdp is fucking retarded schools not prisons?? what dumb ass logo
no one goes to prison for smoking marijuana they get a year on probation
normal and safer is cool though i like them
FreshAsHell 2 years ago
I would not support those persons having guns were too much. Cannabis business I agree its ok but having guns on campus its stupid.
Legalize it.
habstick2 2 years ago 9
The Bushes were so anti-drug and pro-prohibition because they had direct links to Texas drug traffickers. South Texas drug traffickers are some of the wealthiest dealers in the USA.
Chuckjagermeister 2 years ago
Search Youtube for HOW WEED WON THE WEST
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AmericanDrugWar 2 years ago
so wrong
Honeypott310 2 years ago
lets get active!!! cannibus career institute!!!!!
sbdunkies95 2 years ago
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God Gave Us Marijuana to use...Genesis ch 3 vs 29 says "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth..."
Vs 31 then says " And God saw every thing that he had made "including Marijuana", and , behold, it was Very good.
Rev.13.vs 10 states that " He who leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity."
Their day is coming.
The war on Drugs is a Scam!
EggFooDungBung 2 years ago 3
I have been telling people this verse for a long time and i'm not even religious
ddrfrk 2 years ago
If we legalize hemp and buds it will really help our economy lol
and its safe!!
BlizzahGraff 2 years ago 4
st4ticblu3 2 years ago 15
I think point of the video is that these kids are doing this for "whatever reason." I know why they're doing it: Money, and Sex. Drugs in illegality are a commodity that can be readily invested in by anyone that's cool enough to pass muster with the big sellers. SSDP's point I think is that if this commodity was Gov. regulated these kids would have to find some other way to make money and gain influence.
052408dj 2 years ago
all these kids should be arrested they knoew what they did was wrong they dont need education wtf is this
crownviclx2000 3 years ago
wtf? What kind of school is that where at any given time you can find $100,000 in contraband.
mindfuqq 3 years ago
Ignorant college kids
DocCarebear 3 years ago
Instead of juvenile name calling why not debate their views?
111thedude111 3 years ago
One cannot debate sensibly with people who sell illegal drugs. One of the students arrested asked if his arrest would affect his possibility of working in federal law enforcement? This is how ignorant these "smart" college kids are, to think that this was not that severe. I am not arguing with the fact that we need to do something, other than fill our prisons with people. This does not mean that we should let these people off scott-free. They still need to be punished, as anyone else would be.
DocCarebear 3 years ago
Switzerland recently formalized an experimental program set up in the 90s, where heroin addicts, failing treatment, would receive pure heroin, cut with non-lethal substances, in a gov't lab, given a clean needle every time, and must do it in a safe building with medical supervisors nearby if something goes wrong.
111thedude111 3 years ago
It's worked tremendously well, crime committed by heroin users is down 60% since its implementation a victory the war on drugs can never achieve. Not only that but 2/3s of the users hold jobs and pay taxes
111thedude111 3 years ago
This is why the dealers/distributors should be punished. They feed off from others addiction. I have never argued that a user should be put behind bars. I remember being offered an "8-ball" years ago. If I had not known the dangers of addiction, I might have tried it. I could have been hooked, if I had tried the stuff. My point is, we definitely need to educate our kids so they do not take that first step. There are significant health risks (withdrawals) of just "locking up" drug abusers.
DocCarebear 3 years ago
Of course drugs are dangerous, and we should educate people to their dangers; see how this has worked with tobacco, how after education its use has gone down. But you have to realize people have, and will always do drugs legal or illegal. Now ask yourself do you want these drugs to be controlled by gov't and business or violent criminals? The prohibition of drugs causes more violence than the drugs themselves.
111thedude111 3 years ago
Please realize that once you prohibit a substance you give up all control over it. Example: It is much easier to obtain heroin than Vicodin. I don't want anyone ruined by drugs bu this drug war has claimed so many lives, created so many drugs, given so much profit to the violent and wicked, imprisoned so many innocent or merely for possession(without intent to distribute), that reform of some kind must be made, as it is clear that the war on drugs cannot work.
111thedude111 3 years ago
maybe if college wasnt so damn expensive they woulda just got regular part time jobs. lol!
gsukrw06 3 years ago
you can fight an addiction not a conviction.. very true
deathlaychur 3 years ago
Taxation and regulation is the key to fighting the drug problem. Addiction is a public health problem, not a criminal one. How is someone a criminal if all they do is overdose on meth, for instance? Who else are they endangering?? There is such a thing as responsible drug use, contrary to the propaganda the cops and teachers feed elementary school students in the useless D.A.R.E program.
Whoo69 3 years ago
do you really trust our government with regulating the drugs you take? ill trust the street dealers and their unknown substances before ill trust the government...
decriminalization is what we need
deadlytab 3 years ago
ok, i dont trust the government or the street dealers. but i do trust a private market where there is fair competition. the govt would regulate the laws, not make the product. it would be just like alcohol except instead of Jack Daniels you'd have Jack-Smokes-Alot. lol! so yeah legalization, regulation, taxation, and decriminalization are all needed. plus taxing would get us outa this huge deficit.
gsukrw06 3 years ago
The term "drug culture" is like saying there's an "alcohol culture" on campus. Sure, a lot of people drink, esp. young people, but that's because they LIKE to! A lot of young people and people in general like to get drunk or high. The term "alcohol culture" or "drug culture" somehow implies that since so many people do it, they're gonna force everyone else to get high or drink, and everyone in class will be stoned or drunk. How about "cigarette culture"? Never hear that term.
Whoo69 3 years ago
What's this "drug culture" bullshit on the headline? There's no such thing as a "drug culture!" Most people do drugs because they want to. That whole peer pressure thing is largely a myth. There aren't dealers standing right outside every school trying to force you to toke up. They're not harassing potential buyers. They're like any other salesman.
So many lies are told about drugs and the drug war in this country. You're expected to believe that even if you do it once, you can die.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Our culture in America is so damn afraid of drugs, it's insane! We have this irrational and paranoid fear of drugs, even responsible drug use. Yes, there are addicts, but there are still quite a few people who don't OD and go to the hospital. There are people who do coke or weed and live productive lives. And what about alcohol or cigarettes? They kill way more people than illegal drugs. Drunk driving kills thousands, while no one has ever died from "high driving."
Whoo69 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Randy Hencken is a FUCKING JACKASS because
1. NO he isn't sorry that people died over drug overdoses
2. He sounds like he is more interested in legalizing drugs
3. Drug addicts don't just turn themselves in
4. Why would you trust a drug addict ?
5. Drug addicts turning themselfs in has nothing to do with Busting DurgDealers
6. So you give a person drugs, and if that person dies you don't want to be held responsible that BS.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
All drugs should be legalized. Not only because the law has no real deterrent effect, but because legalisation means CONTROL. Today we give criminals and terrorists 100% control of this market, which means NO FUCKING CONTROL AT ALL. If you support prohibition, you support terrorists with the third larges market in the world (after weapons and oil). Be proud.
Hicksville 3 years ago 2
All Drugs even meth ,and coke ? and you want to legalize that and give the power to the goverment ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
dude i prefer that the government handles the drugs than the drug dealers....and marijuana dose not cause overdose, only real drugs, like crak and coke, and to the people who are adicted need help, and no prison.....
Jarroty 3 years ago
Read Back I never said any thing about marijuana overdose I am talking about
Meth, coke, crack ect..... HOW CAN THE government Handle that ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
the same way they handle prescribed drugs, it is a little obvious.
Jarroty 3 years ago
Are you joking CRACK KILLS no doctor would prescribe that , and many know of the ATROCITIES that Meth dose to the human body.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
dude oviusly no doctor will prescibe it! don't be an ignorant, do you think a little kid raised in the ghetto who sees drugs everyday, and sees people buy the bad drugs,crak,heroin,meth, what is he going to think,? that drugs are not bad..it is better and safer for everybody that the government to have it.
Jarroty 3 years ago
dude oviusly no doctor will prescibe it! don't be an ignorant, do you think a little kid raised in the ghetto who sees drugs everyday, and sees people buy the bad drugs,crak,heroin,meth, what is he going to think,? that drugs are not bad..it is better and safer for everybody that the government to have it.
Jarroty 3 years ago
I know, but they have no problem perscribing Speed (Adderal), Cystal meth (Desoxyn), SSRIs (Xanax, Paxil, Prozac), Opiates (Oxycodone, Codeine, Morphine).
PartVIII 3 years ago
The key word is Prescribed are you saying doctors don't know what they are doing ?
because if you are your way off doctors save people. they do not kill them
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
I think what PartVIII is trying to say is that people can get addicted to opiates and other drugs much more easily than cannabis. And you can't overdose marijuana, and it isn't physically addicting. Many people are prescribed oxycotin for chronic pain, and end up turning into a drug addict. If we prescribed those people marijuana instead, it would be much safer.
BrandonWVU2 3 years ago
Controlled Alcohol = No Violence. Alcohol abuse = Violence. Smoking = Cancer. Controlled Smoking = Cancer. Controlled Marijuana = Opens your mind ? (NO it only makes you think your smarter) Marijuana abuse = Retardation. I say you can keep your open minds, and Retardation. If your willing to give up Violence Cancer and so on..
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
Hickville drugs that kill, and DONT HELP WILL NEVER BE LEGALIZED and terrorist only make and sell the killing kind of drugs. So to legalize killer drugs is stupid , because you would only be killing people. And If you don't support prohibition you support killing. And your WRONG the I don't support terrorist, it the people who buy and sell those kind of drugs that support them. So next time get it right.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
"The killing kind of drugs"? You're completely ignorant on this issue, and should probably educate on yourself on it before you embarass yourself further. Heroin is a relatively benign drug given in clean, controlled dosages, as evidenced by the policies put in place across Europe . Drugs become A LOT more dangerous when they are illegal, and it also drives those that get addicted (only a minority of users of ANY drug btw) to commit crimes to support their habit. We all loose. Especially addicts
Hicksville 3 years ago
Heroin is HIGHLY addictive any educate person would know why its is prohibited for medical use in most countries. Apparently it is you that is ignorant because there are a lot of Heroin addicts that have die in EUROPE of all places. A place that is also addicted to opium, and guess what OPIUM is one of the best drug sources of money for Terrorists . Just ask any soldier
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
You do know that this government ships most of the heroin into this country right? Oh so convenient that once the Taliban is gone, opium starts growing once again. All that terrorist nonsense is the biggest lie...oh its controlled by terrorists alright, yeah, but you wont find them hiding in caves in Afghanistan....no they are hiding in plain sight right there in Washington and on Wall Street. The drug war is simply a cash machine for the Prison/Industrial complex.
skrapyard444 3 years ago
so im assuming youre against needle exchange programs to reduce the spread of AIDS and other diseases?? lol
and if u dont mind me asking...what drugs have u done? or do u just like to banter about things in which u have no personal experience? i dont sky dive...so i dont give my opinions on how to do it safely, par examplar. (thats french for "for example")
gsukrw06 3 years ago
Medicine in moderation, can save lives. If you want to believe that the extensive use of cigarettes, methamphetamines, crackis not dangerous, then your wrong. I dont pour gas on my nuts, and then set myself on fire..so I dont give my opinions on how to do it safely.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago 2
...u obviously missed my point and make absolutely no sense. i never said nething about drugs not being dangerous. ur dumb
gsukrw06 3 years ago
Gee what was your point, Lets all experiment because its fun right ? and its not like anyone is going to get addicted, and get long term damage over this stuff right ? How old are you 14 ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
my overall point is that the system in place right now hasnt, isnt, and will never work. ppl are still getting killed and the prison systems are over flowing while our tax dollars pay for it. yet some peopl (ie. you) are too stuck up ur own morally high assholes to see that changing things would cut down on crime, disease, and corruption. but oh no! you want to sit on ur high horse and judge ppl that r different from you n tell them how to live. and guess where it gets us? NO WHERE!
gsukrw06 3 years ago
The system doesnt work because little children cant control themselves , and off the bat parents dont enforce anything, Teachers and security guards, would rather rape and beat them, than help them; in the worse geography of the world throughout history, the constant abuse of good people has more often than not made them evil. People turn to drugs when they have problems in life, hoping for relief, but they only find more despair.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
thats a very naive statement. not all ppl using drugs find themselves looking for relief. im completely happy with my life and i use drugs. im in college, have a stable relationship, and a loving family. ive been disciplined all my life by my parents(i ALWAYS say mam and sir). im an avid horseback rider and compete in show jumping. and i made all A's last semester. idk why u assume everyone who does drugs is miserable because i and many ppl i know certainly are not...so there goes your theory
gsukrw06 3 years ago
not all ppl using drugs find themselves looking for relief. sure not the ones that die from it, or the ones that currently suffer from prolonged use. And If your talking about Marijuana dont waste your time, I discarded that issue a long time ago. If your and friends are real immune to the effects crack and methamphetamines, then I would really love to see the scientific study on that.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
thats seems to be the method of most people when they dont want to face the facts....discard the issue! oh yeah, thats really helping! (sarcasm)
gsukrw06 3 years ago
If problems become potential solutions then why keep them as problems; what is wrong with not worrying about them, and discarding them ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
so ur agreeing that legalizing marijuana is a potential solution? because thats what this entire argument has been about and now ur just agreeing with me anyway. lol! do u kno where u really stand on anything at all??
gsukrw06 2 years ago
NO its not what the whole argument was about , and if you read back and see what I was posting then youll know. Like I told you I discarded only that issue a long time ago, and that was pending that research would show that there was no serious side effects.
Jfscloud723 2 years ago
well thats all i was arguing for...because thats what the damn video we are posting on is about!! so wtf are you talking about then?!
gsukrw06 2 years ago
No The SDSU Drug Bust was about more Then marijuana they found other illegal drugs, and even stolen prescription drugs. There is more information out there. You can even see some of the other stuff in the video.
Jfscloud723 2 years ago
If Cops would stop taking bribes, if security guards would stop getting stoned with little kids, and if people with just stop poping out kids (that they arent going to take care of ) then we wouldnt have such a big drug problem. And giving people false hope is not the solution.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
sounds like ur waiting for pigs to fly my friend...youre right, if ppl would be moral then things would be great. but ppl arent going to get more moral. cops arent gonna stop taking bribes because they dont get paid shit. and ppl arent gonna stop having kids. like ive stated, u cant legislate morals. ur still to busy judging ppl to look for a rational solution. stop being bitter and start thinking how to really help the situation. instead of just pointing out the problem, try to fix it
gsukrw06 3 years ago
Whats with the double talk ? So the solution is people need to start doing the right thing the law needs to be enforce, But because some people are too Corrupt it is some how not the solution ? And WTF is wrong with judging anything ? You yourself are judging me.
u cant legislate morals dont have to its why we already have the laws in the first place.
And your statement that people dont get moral is arbitrary, because enforcing laws is how people learn to become moral.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
im not double talking...thats what the law is trying to do, legislate morals. which makes no sense. ppl dont learn from laws, if they did we'd never have 2nd time offenders. and yes, because ppl r so corrupt it is NOT the solution. thats my point. ADDICTION is a medical issue not a law enforcement issue. there r no laws restricting the spread of disease, if u wana live unhealthy thats ur decision. lock up a dealer, someone else will take his place. its like trying to stop rain from falling.
gsukrw06 3 years ago
People are not born knowing how to be moral or immoral, so morals are legislated to them; because if we never legislated anything before then no one would find anything wrong with killing, Stealing, rape, or murder. Morals are learned and become synonymous with the laws, of humanity in each and every nation. Laws must be enforced no matter how many people (drug dealers) want to break them.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
actually ppl ARE born with an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. its called a conscience. basic psychology explains this. a normal person's brain patterns change when faced with words like killing, stealing, rape, or murder because they know (without man made law) that those things are wrong....where have you been for the past hundred years because that is common knowledge!
gsukrw06 2 years ago
They learn what the emotions means from other humans, and react according. This intrinsic sense of right and wrong can, and is developed differently, some people get a rush out of doing what is generally considered to be wrong. And lets not forget the Psychopaths who wouldnt be considered to have ever been born with a conscience at all.
Jfscloud723 2 years ago
are u foreign? cuz i never fully understand what ur sentences mean...."They learn what the emotions means from other humans, and react according. "....what???
gsukrw06 2 years ago
LOL ok monkey see monkey do is basically what I was saying there. Any doctor will tell you babies arent born knowing right from wrong, they learn by trail and error; and through out life it is still a learning process.
Jfscloud723 2 years ago
I'd say, a kid just knowing what death is, would automatically know killing others is wrong. Granted, they may have to learn through trial and error. As such, this shows their is preprogrammed moral system of a sort. Or, in general for most people. Some people by a genetic or environmental factor may not be able to relate or sympathize.
caseypena420 2 years ago
I think it was a failed attempt to sound like a smarty pants. Always proof read before you post. :p
st4ticblu3 2 years ago
And there are laws restricting the spread of disease, if you get aids then you have to report it, if you knowingly infect any one with a virus then you are responsible.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
And this thing about our tax dollars has more to do with the federal reserve, the war,and the Bush Profiteering than anything else.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
yeah, the federal reserve is joke. the war is a lie. and bush is a rich man because of it! we all know, we just dont do anything about it... man, we're a bunch of suckers huh?
gsukrw06 3 years ago
Bingo people are to fucking lazy to do shit, and the ones that do get killed. JFK,
Martin Luther King, and many others I didnt mention.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
People will continue to buy drugs even though they are illegal. When taken that FACT into account, we the people and our politicians are indirectly supporting terrorists by giving them this extremely lucrative market. If you're completely naive and think we actually can do ANYTHING to stop this through law enforcement and propaganda, I can see why you think you're not supporting terrorists. But the reality is that prohibition against consensual crimes like this have little to NO effect.
Hicksville 3 years ago
You're brainwashed. Drug money does NOT go to terrorists in this country! If anything, the amount that does go to terrorists is a very SMALL portion. What do the terrorists in Afghanistan grow? OPIUM! There are a lot more drugs than just that. I'm pretty sure the inner-city dealers are doing it to enrich themselves, not give to al Qaeda.
The US has some of the most insane drug policies in the world. We have the most insane ones for a democracy, that's for sure. Prohibition never works.
Whoo69 3 years ago
WRONG!!!!
Opium-It contains up to 10% morphine, an opiate alkaloid, which is most frequently processed chemically to produce heroin for the illegal drug trade.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago
Every kind of drug kills moron! Take thirteen aspirin and you're dead. prohibition kills HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS more than the actual illegal drugs. Prescription drugs kill more than all illegal drugs combined. Making ANYTHING illegal when there is demand for it will simply create a profitable black market run by violent criminals.
111thedude111 3 years ago
LOL "Take thirteen aspirin and you're dead." Wow LOL ya and if you eat too fast you can choke and die, whats your point that people too retarded like you to know how shit should work ? "Prescription drugs kill more than all illegal drugs combined." Wow So some people are stupid whats new ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago 2
I guess we should illegalize the rape, sex slavery of women and little kids because there is demand for it, and if we dont violent criminals will simply create a profitable black market. No wait they already do that.
Jfscloud723 3 years ago 2
r u serious? rape and sex slavery are FORCED upon a person, unlike drugs,the ppl dont have a choice in the matter. and im sure if prostitution were legalized u'd see a drop in both. just like the demand for sex,the demand for drugs will always be there so fighting it is ridiculous. u cant legislate people's morals...if a motorcyclist doesnt want to wear a helmet then he shouldnt have to. yeah i'd say he's stupid, but its his right to be that way. my opinion shouldnt affect how he lives.
gsukrw06 3 years ago
See my comments below on how gov't control and regulation of dangerous drugs like heroin is beneficial. No terrorist sells the poppy, cartel imports/refines it, no gang distributes it, the addicts never OD cause it is safely manufactured. No criminals profit from the trade because there is no longer a black market. Oh, and as for the herb=retard studies have shown that cannabinoids spur brain cell growth.
111thedude111 3 years ago
So I guess all those US soldiers were burning fields of the stuff just for the hell of it, and terrorist were bombing the shit out of them; not because they were losing money the fields just happen to be in the way ?"studies have shown that cannabinoids spur brain cell growth." source ? "Of course drugs are dangerous, and we should educate people to their danger" They know and they dont give a fuck some the fuckers what to die, you really think their are all uneducated ?
Jfscloud723 3 years ago 2
(University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon 2005 Xia Zhang) Prohibition creates artificial scarcity, interdiction creating inflated prices that turn a plant into something literally worth more than its weight in gold. Eradication punishes impoverished farmers who could be growing food for their country, while drug traffickers & warlords bribe local officials. With the failure of DARE, education seems unreliable; but if people will do drugs knowing the danger, why jail them for it? Victimless crime.
111thedude111 3 years ago
Not to mention our allies don't appreciate our efforts. Google :"US drug war endangers diggers" to see how our drug policies hurt our anti-Taliban efforts and cause tension with our allies. The more Poppies eradicated the more profit from cultivating them.
111thedude111 3 years ago
Legalize.
chirakkattu1 3 years ago 2
They are my heroes who arrested for weeds.
GO PIGS! Good job SDPD, DEA wasted their
tax dollar for good!
vikingscool 3 years ago
I seriously doubt that all 75 would have graduated had they not have been arrested...
osyrus99 3 years ago
The US imprisons more than any other nation on earth or in history.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago 3