Special - Qantas QF32 - A380 Uncontained Engine Failure (4 of 4)

[MrBryan86]

WTH!! 80million for an engine, and 150million for the plane!!! Isn't that too much??!!

[transdrole]

Suing RR was not appropriate. Chiding them for a lack of public disclosure probably was. Also, this uncontained failure does not negate the effectiveness of 'blade-off' tests because this was not a blade-off failure. Complete turbine wheel separation cannot be contained.

[nezy76]

A credit to airbus and the people who build the a380. The aircraft landed under immense conditions

[Annon1100]

It's very easy to criticise people after an event, but surely they should have evacuated the aircraft using the door(s) furthest away from the fuel leeks as soon as it had stopped. This would obviously have taken a lot more than 90 seconds, but what they did by leaving everyone on the aircraft for an extra hour put them in unnecessary danger. The fuel could have ignited at any time during this period. Such an evacuation would have taken 10 minutes. Suppose it had exploded after 15 minutes!!

[SheffieldSteel1000]

Many thanks '4c52' for uploading this documentary.

It's scary how many things can go wrong with an aircraft engine and how a fault with such a tiny piece of it can potentially bring down a passenger aircraft! I guess we must take comfort though from the fact that so many thousands of A380 flights have been made worldwide without any engine dramas, and from the fact that flying is still by far the safest mode of transport.

[Kyleinasailing]

Good docu. But end comment by second in command not correct. RR engines are bloody good - and he well knows it. The captain of this aircraft was excellent, I would fly with him anywhere. C'mon Aussies don't be so f...... socailistic and show some balls. OK, so the engine blew up, what's the big deal? Get a new one and stick it on - now at special price. Now, get 500 people squash them in, close the door. I'm happy, you're happy. What's the problem brother?

[airplanes66]

@Kyleinasailing if i ran a airline with engines that cost several million pounds each you would expect that it wouldnt explode and indanger passengers lives. also after the incident rolls royce basicly left the explaining to qantas and much of the media blame would end up at qantas despite them having nothing to do with the engine or its maintence. then i could understand them being annoyed.

saftey when carring 500 people is paramount and rolls royce have safe inpection problems

[Kyleinasailing]

@airplanes66 Let's be absolutely clear about this. RR have very high standards - anyone in the industry can vouch for it. Of course it has nothing to do with Qantas and the crew of this aircraft did a really professional job. RR have compensated more than 100 million dollars US to Qantas. They have paid the price for a defective oil pipe no longer than 5 cm. Mistakes are always going to be made regardless of stringent safeguards. RR have learnt a lesson that they will not want to repeat again.

[addplusminus35]

First, sitting on a leaking aircraft with hot brakes simply because an outboard engine is running is criminal. The passengers are lucky to be alive no thanks to a gross mishandling of the evacuation.

Second, Rolls Royce silence speaks volumes. I guarantee that have a paper trail which would almost criminalize their lack of action. They played the money game and the passengers almost paid the price.

[airplanes66]

@addplusminus35 what else can you do? evacuating 500 people further towards the possible fire (the fuel was on the outside) could put them in more danger and having firemen near a running engine is simply asking for fatalities where there were none before.

[danny3902]

@elvispilot What kind of games do they play?

[H3BLTM]

that a ep3 i see at 5.09 :D

[Rob187ok]

My mate used to work for RR and he nicked all the best bits of pipe to stick on his motorcycle and left them the scrap rejected bits of pipe to build all their engines with. So I blame Dave for all engine problems. Mind you he got the sack before the A380 was even thought of,,,,, derrrr. Silly me.

[raffytube13]

Great History, Great Pilots and Flight Crew!

[mclovo]

Yesss I like GE 90 + 777 :)

[TheGenrobs84]

"For the future of this industry, you need an openness or people will just get killed. That's as simple as that. And if they don't want to do it, well then you're in the wrong business."

-Well said. I think every person working in the aviation industry regardless if they're a pilot, ground crew, or a secretary needs that statement posted in every room and on every plane they work in.

[vfthb098]

Hopefully the Trent 1000 is better and safer.

[elvispilot]

having worked for rolls royce i know the games that they play

[XxajayzxX]

GE90+777 :)

[Bulgdoom]

LMAO "We're gonna give him the Rolls Royce Treatment, No thanks"

[jbob787]

Boeing + General Electric = Safety

[elparcero1220]

@jbob787 there are plenty of Airbus planes that uses GE engines or EA (Engine Alliance)... heck Lufthansa's A380 are GE powered, and there hasn't been a single incident, same with Air France's A380...

[LafreniereJ]

Rolls Royce = SMART. Shut Up, and fix it Fast.

And personally... the A380 is too big, too many people, and too new. I don't trust it yet.

[esp550]

2 words; Engine Alliance

[Sooksawaspakdee961]

And now another emergency landing in 2011 with an Quantas A380 due to engine problem. Rolls Royce + A380 NO THANKS.

[GalaxyMaster99]

Airbus is still better 

[turnfootsherlock]

go ge

[ZephonTLucifer]

haha cracked pipe 

[steelersfanhawaii]

Seems to me like the disc disintegrated because of no oil/lubricant in the bearings, a similar failure mode as if you drive your car with no oil in the engine. You get meal-on-metal and it seizes up

[John94098]

@steelersfanhawaii That's what they were saying.

[ImmortalSynn]

Um, since when does LAX have "short" runways???

[4c52]

@ImmortalSynn They aren't exactly short, they're just shorter than needed for an A380 to do a derated takeoff on long flights (like the regular one's to Sydney). LAX runways are between 3 and 3.6 km while the A380 requires 4 km for a derated takeoff on such flights.

[ImmortalSynn]

@4c52

1) LAX's primary runway is only 300m shorter than SYD's.

2) Airbus' calculations show that at ISA+15C, on LAX's 12,091ft Rwy7L/25R at elevation 119ft; QF's trent could go out with well over 600ton MTOW with room to spare. Since they're not certified at anywhere near that weight, doing a derated takeoff would be no problem. 

You can pull that info straight off of Airbus(dot)com's A380 field performance charts, pg122 of 421.

So curious, where are you getting the above nonsense from?

[afgrocks123]

@4c52 haha, since when is derated flights so needed,, can't they just go full power everytime? XD and throw some passengers away so less runway needed hehe

[SOCKEMBOPPERZ1]

@4c52 i dont think it matters too much but sydneys biggest is 3.9 kilometers and lax's biggest is 3.6 but the rest of sydneys are 2.4 and 2.5 while lax's are 3.3 km, 3.1 km, and 2.7 km so we can still brag :)

[jasonh21]

@ImmortalSynn The A380s are only allowed on runway 24L for takeoff, which is shorter than 25R, due to minimise disruption of other traffic if it had to taxi to 25R

[dmanxlrz82]

this is crazy i had no idea the engine failure on this flight was that catostrophic i remember reading about it but had no idea it caused all those sensers to go out or the puncture in the wing , thank god the outcome wasnt worse

[raulox71]

Rolls Royce = Cowards.

[John94098]

@raulox71, yeah... i hate Rolls Royce.

[raulox71]

@John94098 Absolutely, they should take responsibility.

[jonnybee48]

@raulox71; It's easy to have a cheap snipe at RR from the comfort of your armchair, matey, but I'd suggest you engage your brain befor making such comments. FYI, the oil feed that caused the problem was subject to a redesign, very late in the development programme that was instigated by the FAA of the USA. The original item was a plain, straight tube and didn't need any machining other than a swage at both ends to retain an O ring to seal it. If you must blame, then blame the Yanks.

[hearts76100]

@jonnybee48

Completely agree.....too many internet heroes with no real knowledge of facts!

[cybermarsactual]

A true insult in programing.

[Rocktopus]

Blimey, those Aussies moan alot - it landed didn't it? relax!