he is doped up on methadone, that shit get you even more stoned than herion, you can hear his raspy voice and emotional swings. look at the eyes, that meth is strong bet you $20 bucks the church is next door the methadone clinic
he is still a junkie ....only now the state gives him dope every day at the clinic.
dude take a shower, cut your hair, ditch the cheap jewlery
I think people have learned to ignore atheists, especially when they lie about people lying about their testimonies LOL how low is that seriously? God is real, get over it!
@ItsSoMe2011 Except, ya know, feeding starving kids in Africa. And changing Pharaoh's mind without causing mass suffering and killing the first born. And forgiving humans without human sacrifice. And defeating those that have iron chariots. Etc.
I was an atheist, but then I looked at a tree and said, "Oh, wow. God is real." Thanks! This video showed me how stupid I was, and how intelligent I've now become.
@Sigh33n Other than the loaded word "design," I agree with you. Trees are complex and play a vital role. What is your point, that a magic man in the sky is the only way to account for trees?
A brain completely burned out by heroin + self-deceptive enquiry = New faith.
Well, it's sad but surely informative for all those people who never found the answer to the question about what must've happened in the minds of "converts", from wherever they come from or go to.
The requirement for faith is basically an empty and defenseless mind, the kind a child has. We surely can't keep all people from taking heroin, but we can try to save children from early indoctrination.
Absolutely NONE of you have the right to leave such hateful comments here, on a video that is not even yours. I come to these videos to see Jon, to be able to hear him, to be EXCITED for him, and the time of his life that he was so excited for, so in wonder of. You are all decimating this positive memory of him for me and for others that knew him, so I HOPE you all feel like the vial worms that you are for having such disrespect.
Shame on all of you for having this silly debate on here. Shame, shame, shame! You are all missing the giant point here. Did you happen to look at Jon's other video, where he explains how entirely happy he is to have gotten clean? Have any of you stopped your pointless, never-ending vicious circle of a debate to think about the PERSON that's up there, looking at you? The POINT is not HOW he got clean, but that he GOT clean in the first place. Do any of you KNOW him!? I did.
Intelligence is needed to create software code or assemble a computer! FAR MORE intelligence is needed for the assemblance of the first Cell and thereby DNA. A DNA code is far more complex in design than All the Worlds Softwares COMBINED!! Therefore we can deduce Intelligent DESIGN! Homochirality and hydrolysis would prevent life from ever starting! It is chemically and mathematically impossible for a single protein to form!!
Funny he mentioned donuts because when I was 4 I snuck out of the service and into the backroom and snuck a bunch of donuts. My cover was having to go to the bathroom.....try it out some time :)
@AtheosRecords I'm not going to sit here and say that organized religion doesn't have it's problems but anything that helps someone get clean is a beautiful thing. We are all on a journey and this life is what we make of it. Who are you to judge anyone for what they believe?
Embrace me darkened one, strengthen my soul. Spew thy darkness into our world. And through the rotting gates heaven. Shadowy wisps will heal my wounds. Shadowy wisps will wound their prayers. Send me the loving peace of Lucifer. Send me the battered pieces of jesus christ. It is now time, we begin to move forward. Hordes of terror are waiting to strike them. Following a great leader into his war. With hoofs of steel, he'll crush thy body. You will give in to the might of Satan.
Demon's maggots scrape away the body in decay. From the inside until your savior is empty. His failure is cleansed by your hatred. Your god stands below dark emptiness. Lost and forgotten in the cold depths. Glaring up from the bottom arises Satan. The body of christ shall satisfy his hunger. Vomit your pallid beliefs. As you live to suffer in ignorance. Save your false pity for those who care. Purged of the will to live your life. You have nothing but a lifeless prayer.
@AtheosRecords =) They were not starving to death. They were not trusting God. "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds. As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid, So is he who makes a fortune, but unjustly; (Jer 17.9-11) OUR HEART being right on judgement day is his highest concern.
Psalm 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I obey your word.
Lamentations 3:33 For he does not enjoy hurting people or causing them sorrow!
Matthew 16:26 And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?
God chastens us in complete love desiring to change our hearts so we can be broken of our sin nature and come into fellowship with the divine nature of LOVE. Love is patient, kind, merciful, faithful, etc =)
.....but I scattered them with a storm wind among all the nations whom they have not known. Thus the land is desolated behind them, so that no one went back and forth, for they made the pleasant land desolate." (Zech 7.8ff) God hates treachery, violence, cruelty, callused hypocrisy-things that knowingly (not accidentally) destroy people, community, safety, trust, joy, innocence, and beauty. This is not minor 'ritual' infractions nor petty stuff.
..And they made their hearts like flint so that they could not hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets; therefore great wrath came from the Lord of Hosts And it came about that just as He called and they would not listen, so they called (not sincerely) and I would not listen," says the Lord of hosts
Then the word of the Lord came to Zechariah saying, 9 "Thus has the Lord of hosts said, 'Dispense TRUE JUSTICE, and practice KINDNESS and COMPASSION each to his brother; and DO NOT OPPRESS the widow or the orphan, the stranger or the poor; and DO NOT DEVISE EVIL in your hearts against one another.' But they refused to pay attention, and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing...
@AtheosRecords When murmuring and grumbling become dominant within any group, then even the leaders can start to succumb to it resulting in divisions in what should be a unified body. Why? Simply because at the heart of grumbling is selfishness and the quest to get what you desire, which goes against the law of love. This is always compounded by the fact that selfish human desires will never be satisfied. His ultimate goal is to bring us close to Him so we can experience His love which fills us!
@AtheosRecords =) A lie opposes the truth. In our hearts we instinctively know right from wrong. We know there is such a thing as justice. When a murderer sadistically kills an innocent, we cry out for justice. God is a JUST God and when his creation, who has opened themselves up to the curse of anti-goodness go around destroying each other with hate & deception, He is so patient with us! Do you realize he gave Lucifer enough time to repent that He had enough time to decieve 1/3 of the angels?
"Yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; he rises to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!" Isaiah 30:18 "Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindnesd tolerance & patience,not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?" Romans 2:4 "Tear your heart and not your garments.Return to the LORD your God, for he is gracious & compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love, and he RELENTS from sending calamity"Joel2:13
Ezekiel 33:11 says "Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take NO pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?" Now that sounds more like a pleading Father wanting them to turn back to Him so He can make them live for they were going the ways of death and destruction and they gave themselves over to the destroyer, the lawless one, the liar Satan
@AtheosRecords The nature of God is one of such love. He is the KINDEST person I ever met. Like you, I used to see the Prophet books in a negative way. But later on, as I knew God myself more personally, seeing him work in my own heart and life, seeing his great love, I began to see His true heart. "The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward yo, not wishing for ANY to perish but for all to come to repentence!" 2 Peter 3:9
the reason I am a believer is because an evangilist told me to go ask God what He wanted from me. I thought what ever...but a few months later I decided to ask God and well He answered me litterally in an audible voice and told me to repent. Do I care whether you believe me or not, No...Do I care whether you ask Him the same question, yap go ask Him if He is real to reveal Himself to you, I did and He did!
4 this we both labor & suffer reproach because we HOPE IN THE LIVING GOD WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL MEN especially those who believe.
Letter 2 Timothy from Paul
From one former heroin addict who has been liberated and set free from all manner of evil and deep darkness. KUDOS 4 the faith & love of Christ which dwells in His servant/friends on this earth who by His Spirit would not give up on us but became a friend of sinners so that He WHO IS Mighty TO SAVE US would be manifest IN US 4 His Glory!!!
@dex1391 In the video he talks about the couple asking him where elephants came from, horses (sorry paraphrasing as I haven't watched it in a while) and then he comes to the conclusion (with the help of the couple) that God put them there. Well if we're using that argument, who put god there. You can't just say god did it and then stop. He added a step that doesn't need to be there and that doesn't answer the question. I agree with Granger, this was a hard video to watch. I couldn't watch it all
@dex1391 How is the question arrogant? I can see by your answer that you swallowed the kool-aid. Let me lay it out simply. If you are searching for the ultimate cause for something (which is what this man was asking) and then expect the final answer to just be God, you've answered nothing. God is not an answer, he is yet another cause and effect. So, as there is as of yet, not evidence for a god (will we find one? maybe, but not likely) you take it out of the equation.
@ianlang7 Oh I see... So to defend your belief system you have to attack mine. That's pretty pathetic.
Why isn't God the answer? What you said made exactly no sense. The universe came to be from an intelligent creator... or by some non-intelligent means.
If you believe the 2nd fine... I have no problem with that.... But don't pretend that you have any more evidence for your belief than I do...
@dex1391 Typical. You complain once I start to show a little backbone. Remember, you were the first to say I was arrogant.
There is definitely evidence that we came about intelligently. All you have to do is search. On the other hand there is no evidence that we came about intelligently. If you have any (and please let them be original, I've heard many many incorrect ones) let me hear them. I'm all ears. And I mean that honestly.
And I don't want to hear the, "Things are complicated!" argument.
Of course your argument is arrogant. Where's the evidence that you have the ability to comprehend what God is? What's ignorant is the idea that we even have that capability.
So how isn't it arrogant?
You have no evidence that a non-intelligence created the universe... yet you claim that your belief system is superior. Then you get offended when I call you arrogant.
@dex1391 Again, you are saying we can't comprehend something that has not even shown itself to exist. That would be like saying you have no idea how to comprehend a unicorn with jade eyes, that flies based on the gravitational pull of the moons of Jupiter. It is not arrogant to question someone that has that belief. It is reasonable.
I am not offended, just trying to push back when someone says something incredible.
@dex1391 Well I'm glad you understand my motives better than I do. I leave you in the knowledge that you cannot listen to anything that doesn't fit your preconceived ideas, no matter what they are. Having a spine is not arrogant. I didn't think you were arrogant at first just because you asked the initial question. I thought it was an honest question. I gave an honest answer and you immediately lashed out.
But, it doesn't matter because you'll always be like this. Good bye.
And no where did I specify that I was talking about Christianity. Replace Christianity with Islam, Buddha, Zoroastrianism, Roman gods, and you come to the same problem.
@dex1391 Except that athiesm doesn't tell you anything. It is not a set of beliefs. It's the absence. There is no central icon, no central tenants, no central dogma. Athiesm does not tell you what someone believes. It only tells you what the name implies; Absence of belief in a supreme being or beings.
It's like calling us Aunicornists. It only tells you that we don't believe in unicorns. Not what we believe.
@dex1391 LOL you do realize that buddhists are atheists technically, right? An atheist can believe in the afterlife, that speaks nothing as to if there is a God or not. Atheism is the rejection of a claim that theists make, not the other way around. Nice try though.
@dex1391 well that is an odd group of budhists. it's believed that the Buddha himself believed that many religious ideas/the idea of god is based on fear, but power to your Buddhist friends I guess! Again, though, atheism is literally just the rejection of a God/Gods. You don't have to believe that we came along by "chance", or evolution, or an afterlife. Atheism is routed in naturalism, so I believe having some magical being whos immaterial, timeless, and all knowing is more of a fairy tale.
@dex1391 so you're telling me what I believe? that's priceless! I have absolutely no idea how the universe began, and neither do most people. I'd rather wait for a scientific explanation than pull the God card out of my ass :) Atheists as a group do not claim the world came from nothingness, even the concept of nothingness is hard to grasp. some atheists/people in general believe in the big band, some don't. I don't know enough about the big bang to support it, so I'm fine with uncertainty.
@dex1391 um again, where are you getting this from? you're still telling me what I believe? You should actually read what I write instead of projecting what you ASSUME atheists think. Where did I claim to KNOW it didn't have a creator? I'm an agnostic atheist; I don't know (nor claim to know, but you think otherwise), but I don't believe. Atheism is ONLY the rejection of Gods/deities. It has no bearing on science or the beginning of the world. I don't know if you're dumb or just trolling lmfao.
@dex1391 you told me I "claim to know" it had no creator, which is not what atheism is. You believe in a timeless, immaterial, omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent being that somehow existed before existence and time, which is a paradox in itself. That's a nice cop out, isn't it? Instead of actually doing work and figuring out how we're here, just say "Godditit!" I put more trust into the idea of physics figuring our origins out than God, sue me. Your position is the one making a claim, sorry.
An agnostic atheist believes in no god, but does not claim to know. A theistic gnostic believes there is a god, and claims to know there is a go. You're seriously sad if you're trying to shift the burden of proof onto atheism, it's quite silly. Next time you're sick, sit at home and pray instead of going to a hospital. Please.
@dex1391 I AM NOT CLAIMING ANYTHING YOU IGNORANT FUCK. Momma told me not to feed trolls, but I can't help it. I BELIEVE there is no god, I claim NOTHING. Jesus titty fucking christ.
@dex1391 some atheists believe the universe has always existed as well, just like your god, so there is another option, despite you saying there isn't another one. Nice false dichotomy, though.
If some atheists believe that the universe has always existed... then those atheists are more ignorant than most. We know that the universe isn't eternal.
BTW... there's no such thing as "your" God. I certainly don't own Him.
@dex1391 Yes, because believing there is no God (since that is ALL that atheism is) is such a myth, but your religion is perfectly sane, whichever it is. A naturalistic view of the world is fucking batshit crazy, you got me, but your wine turns into blood, yeah that's legit.
@dex1391 well the earth has been living for millions of years before we could ever record or discover..."God" just realized he hasn't created beings of his own and chose to create "everything" (hence the fact i just explained the earth has been living forever) us out of nowhere, without any recollection.
so how do YOU know a man magically poofed us? Have you actually witnessed this supernatural being? Or are you just following what one man "witnessed"?
@dex1391 What are you talking about? How can you believe that the earth is a few thousands years old, how do you explain that. We did our homework, we figured out how old the earth is via. sambles, instead of making it up in a random book found by some stoner in the past. That's what the bible is, a random story found by stupid people who had to much power. People back then weren't stupid, just missinformed by people with the power, so they could use them for their own good. That's religion.
@dex1391 Really man, really - you blame my grammar, I missed an o at the end because i was typing so quick because i'm smarty smart smart, god damnit man. If you want to base my intelligence on an O go ahead, you do the same in religion, base your shit around what somebody wrote in a fucking book, sigh.
Actually I was insulting your intelligence... or to be truthful your lack thereof. It's not my fault that you're not very bright. I'm guessing public schooling correct?
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I'm also guessing that's why you're an atheist. You're afraid that the world will see you for your incredibly stupid self so you try to cling to what you believe to be a intellectual superior chess piece. Alas, you are wrong. There's nothing tangible about the belief in atheism.
@dex1391 You think that I'm an atheist because of the fact that I want to show the world that I'm smart, as if it's a choice I made on the basis that I want to fit in.
I'm the only atheist in my class, so I ain't being forced. I'm an atheist because of what our history taught me. Don't go telling me that religion has helped mankind. It's all a great illusion.
@dex1391 My evidence for my personal atheism is my own belief in God, I don't see any evidence. If you can prove me wrong and show me real signs that a superbeing actually plays a part in our life then I'll listen, but you can't, you can't say that because you THINK that there is doesn't show any clear evidence that this god excists. Not saying being religious is a bad way of living your life, but in my opinion is the easy and weak one.
That's not evidence. That's not even close. There's simply no other answer to the origin of the universe without God.
You have nothing to back up your beliefs. You said you had some evidence... you said that history taught you that there's no God. Now show us this evidence. We really want to see it.
@dex1391 I can't say that there isn't a God, but I assure you the god you believe in do not excist. But I want YOU to tell me what your evidence is that there is a God, something that isn't written in the bible.
God is your imaginary friend. I don't need evidence to back me up on that. It's so terribly weak to live by a book, and the only thing that back up your beliefs is something some wicked guys wrote in a book when they where high, I could've done the god damn same with a kids book.
LOL there's no such thing as "your" God. You said that you had evidence for your beliefs. You said that history had taught you that there's no God. Now ... come up. Lets see this evidence. Stop trying to run from the question.
You said it.. now back it up.
I love atheists like you when you're cornered... you usually resort to bigoted insults and logical fallacies. Can't wait to see you do the same...
@dex1391 You keep NOT to awnser my question, the only reason you believe in your god is in a book, and you base your evidence in this book, I can't give an awnser, I can't grasp the entirety of the universe, but you're trying to battle logic with imagination.
I want an awnser to why a god created this earth, from absolutely nothing.
We can look to space now and see about the same planets as the earth. I know if we ever find life on another planet, it will be darwinian. Meaning no god.
Simply not true. First of all I had a belief in God long before I was a Christian. So your claim that belief comes from a "book" is false. Now answer my question. You claimed that history taught you that atheism is an accurate belief system. Where is your evidence? What in history gave you this info?
LOL Darwinian? You're not one of those idiot atheists that believe that evolution is evidence for atheism are you? If you are don't bother me. I have no use for such stupidity.
@dex1391 If you knew everything about your religion you could call yourself a christian, you don't, you clearly do not understand the fact that everything a christian person do is the deeds of what you were told when you where a kid, your reason to hate atheism is based that we want to know what is true, and religion do not have the awnser to this.
My evidence through history is that most of what you read in the bible is added thousand years after the event happend, it's only there to delude
Sorry but you're wrong. The fact is that I became a Christian later in life. Your claims are debunked.
And your evidence has to do with the bible? First nothing you said there made any sense. And even if it were true... it still wouldn't be evidence for atheism.
@dex1391 There isn't any evidence that Jesus even existed, it's just a folks tale, like so many others, but you're clouded mind does not realise that because you think that it would be wrong to question god, because you're a weak sack of shit to put it correctly that needs the bible to keep away from doing stupid things such as stealing and raping.
You're also extremely selfish in the belief that if you do good deeds here on earth, you save your own skin in the afterlife, terribly weakminded
@dex1391 I believe that the darwinian way of thinking of life is relative in the fact that it can actually explain how we got here, and put all the strings together. Only fools are to believe that it just happend out of nowhere, that god just made dinosaur skeletons to mislead us. Why would he ever have to do that.
If you start talking about the devil, heres a thing to think about. The devil is just a way of expressing the terrible things a deluded person can do, if he or she feels like it.
@dex1391 And you in your ignorence think that atheism is a bad thing because we question a story book. Again, why don't a start talking about the frog that turned into a prince.
Here we go, the prince was sated by the devil and turned into a frog for all eternity, then a young christian virgin came along, she kissed the prince, he turned into a prince again and then he was blessed. See, sounds just like the bible, but because its a kids book, we see the difference right?
@ianlang7 "It's like calling us Aunicornists. It only tells you that we don't believe in unicorns. Not what we believe." LOL unicorns are actually oxes which were misinterpreted sideway images, obviously when you look at the correct angle at oxes the horns are perfectly symmetrical almost as if it were one "horn" LOL so you atheists don't believe oxen exist? and you call us christians crazy
@dex1391 Could a god exist? Maybe. But so could Santa Clause. So could a bat with dentures. Hell, even fragglerocks may be real. But are we really gonna take any of this seriously? No. And why not? Because it's so highly unlikely, and no evidence shows the contrary, that we dismiss them.
Now, if someone comes out and finds a little skull or shows evidence of mining underneath with little axes, then we may have to conclude there could be something. But until that time, we ignore it.
@dex1391 Not really sure how this has anything to do with Dawkins but if it makes you feel better to put us all in a group called, "People who don't believe my stupid crap", then be my guest.
@dex1391 I gave you evidence, you just ignore it. I keep telling you that throughout history the bible has been changed, the bible created religion, it created God, why would I believe someone that is obviously just a scam to make money. Even people in the 16th sentury knew this, they just used gods name to scare people, and keeps doing it. Every church in America tries to make profit out of religion, how could i possibly believe in god the allmighty money scam?
@dex1391 Who are you calling pathetic, you can't say anything else then, BACK IT UP, LOL, and something you've read off other people. You clearly don't have a mind of your own, you react like you think it's your duty for god, so you can travel to heaven, you're a freak, a delude spass who doesn't want to make anything of himself in this life, so he's waiting to die so he can go to this imaginary place he made up for himself, you sir. are pathetic in so many ways.
You made the claim. Perhaps if you couldn't back something up you should think before you post. You also may want to work on your English. It's horrible.
Let's put it on the table you failed. You're just another mindless troll who read one too many Dawkins books. Fact is.... you claimed to have evidence and you don't. You're both a liar and a moron.
@dex1391 HAHA, you make me laugh, you try and make yourself think you're something, you're a mindless godpraying American that think he has it all. Go eat your hotdogs, stuff it in your mouth, you might meet Jesus that way? You call atheist morons, saying we read too many books, but you live by a book because if you didn't have it your life would have no meaning, which it doesn't, cause you're just one of a billion that just have to believe in something so you don't cry at night.
@dex1391 You should stop trying to convince people you're something. You're not. You're a mindless hopeless person. You failed at school, you failed at living, you turn to God.
I'm done with you, if you want to question my English go ahead, i'll question your faith, no problem.
@dex1391 Oh yes, and I didn't need to read any of Richard Dawkins books, I've been a born atheist, you think bad things happen for a reason, why would they? Is it Gods will? Hell no, it's the will of people like you, believing in nonesense because you think, well we can't prove God wrong, because then we'll burn in hell, pussies, cowards, morons, deluded godpraying freakshows.
@dex1391 How can you say that, you're like every god damn American christian, you think because you give money to church that you're suddenly a good guy, or spreading words out about God who will save you WHEN YOU DIE?
You're like every christian in the world, won't shatter their beliefs because they are too scared.
You problably also have something against homesexuallity I guess? Since that's something god created so you can tell people how bad it is? Like every other christian person..
@dex1391 I'll let myself deside if i'm a liar, i've been proven a liar by you, not your God, your god loves me, he sucks me dick clean, beutiful ain't it?
If you try to find inner peace, go smoke some weed, you can feel the effects, if you're even cooler, start doing meth and LSD, that'll help you right up! Jesus is waiting for you my deluded son, he will suck you cleeeean.
I think it's fantastic that Jon was able to kick the awful heroin habit, but from an atheist's perspective, this was painful to watch. Man couldn't create beautiful things like mountains and trees, therefore... god had to have done it? I hope he can turn to reason and away from superstition without losing his new positive outlook.
@GodsServant05 Declaring that your specific deity must have created everything rather than searching for the answers to questions you might have about the universe is intellectually lazy, and a cop-out. Enjoy your ignorance, though.
Oh I see... so when someone doubts biblical claims... They're a free thinker... But when someone doubts an atheist claims... they're lazy and ignorant...
You're a hypocrite... If you're going to claim to be a skeptic... you must allow others to be skeptical of your claims...
Anyways, I'm glad that you got off of heroin; but, don't paint Atheist in a negative light because you were easily influenced to use drugs. Please! Don't paint Atheist in that way because instead of telling a personal journey of transformation you end up coming off as a pompous jerk who now wants to spew rhetoric against Atheist and Atheism!!!!!
It seems to me, Patrick, that you were willing and ready to accept anything that could have gotten you off of heroin. I understand that it's an addictive drug but you're the type of personality who was at a weak point in his life and was very "open to suggestion" from anyone who had a message that conflicted with your cherish held non-belief (i.e. Atheism).
Patrick, you said there are no coincidences and that something "divinely inspired" led you into the path of religious believing individuals who got you off of drugs. Nevertheless, couldn't this have been a "coincidence" where you were supposed to convert those religious individuals to Atheism?
he is doped up on methadone, that shit get you even more stoned than herion, you can hear his raspy voice and emotional swings. look at the eyes, that meth is strong bet you $20 bucks the church is next door the methadone clinic
he is still a junkie ....only now the state gives him dope every day at the clinic.
dude take a shower, cut your hair, ditch the cheap jewlery
roslynny 2 weeks ago
" I argued that we stem back from monkeys & gorillas & apes."
You obviously never understood the theory of evolution.
OneParticleCharged 1 month ago 2
I think people have learned to ignore atheists, especially when they lie about people lying about their testimonies LOL how low is that seriously? God is real, get over it!
ItsSoMe2011 1 month ago
I LOVE GOD HE IS GREAT! NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM! AMEN!
ItsSoMe2011 1 month ago
@ItsSoMe2011 Except, ya know, feeding starving kids in Africa. And changing Pharaoh's mind without causing mass suffering and killing the first born. And forgiving humans without human sacrifice. And defeating those that have iron chariots. Etc.
Velox415 6 days ago
Thank you for sharing...may Jesus be your everything
stellarang86 1 month ago
I'll be praying for this man. May the Lord bless you with an addiction free life... He loves you!
letsdanceinthecab 1 month ago
So is this guy still homeless??
Also, Jake Gyllenhaal is that you?? ;)
stevenv27 1 month ago
very cool man
nintendokillsOoO 1 month ago
The danger with giving someone an invisible crutch to walk on is that they may actually look down and see nothing's there.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
I was an atheist, but then I looked at a tree and said, "Oh, wow. God is real." Thanks! This video showed me how stupid I was, and how intelligent I've now become.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer Have you taken into consideration the complex design of a tree? It plays a vital role in producing oxygen for our atmosphere.
Sigh33n 2 months ago
@Sigh33n Other than the loaded word "design," I agree with you. Trees are complex and play a vital role. What is your point, that a magic man in the sky is the only way to account for trees?
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer eh, I prefer Everlasting Father.
Sigh33n 2 months ago
don't do drugs kids
Roland6000abc 2 months ago 5
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Lesson of this video:
A brain completely burned out by heroin + self-deceptive enquiry = New faith.
Well, it's sad but surely informative for all those people who never found the answer to the question about what must've happened in the minds of "converts", from wherever they come from or go to.
The requirement for faith is basically an empty and defenseless mind, the kind a child has. We surely can't keep all people from taking heroin, but we can try to save children from early indoctrination.
sooperfukker 2 months ago
Absolutely NONE of you have the right to leave such hateful comments here, on a video that is not even yours. I come to these videos to see Jon, to be able to hear him, to be EXCITED for him, and the time of his life that he was so excited for, so in wonder of. You are all decimating this positive memory of him for me and for others that knew him, so I HOPE you all feel like the vial worms that you are for having such disrespect.
TheAnnaEldridge 2 months ago
Shame on all of you for having this silly debate on here. Shame, shame, shame! You are all missing the giant point here. Did you happen to look at Jon's other video, where he explains how entirely happy he is to have gotten clean? Have any of you stopped your pointless, never-ending vicious circle of a debate to think about the PERSON that's up there, looking at you? The POINT is not HOW he got clean, but that he GOT clean in the first place. Do any of you KNOW him!? I did.
TheAnnaEldridge 2 months ago
Perhaps the purest testimony I have ever heard!!!
warroirsfury 2 months ago
Great testimony.
TheAngelmj15 4 months ago
Dude, stop trusting your imaginary friend, he was the one who made you do heroin in the first place.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
God Bless Him. Glory to God in Jesus Name!
Arquecy 4 months ago
EUCHARIST EUCHARIST EUCHARIST
ROSARY ROSARY ROSARY
mufc99ok 4 months ago
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Intelligence is needed to create software code or assemble a computer! FAR MORE intelligence is needed for the assemblance of the first Cell and thereby DNA. A DNA code is far more complex in design than All the Worlds Softwares COMBINED!! Therefore we can deduce Intelligent DESIGN! Homochirality and hydrolysis would prevent life from ever starting! It is chemically and mathematically impossible for a single protein to form!!
5tonyvvvv 5 months ago
Pathetic....
trhtpc 5 months ago
Funny he mentioned donuts because when I was 4 I snuck out of the service and into the backroom and snuck a bunch of donuts. My cover was having to go to the bathroom.....try it out some time :)
scottpalmer444 6 months ago
@AtheosRecords There is no smarmy mentality, GOD is the one who got him off of drugs
BUDsUSNavySeals1997 6 months ago
I smell a lie
MrTraumaMan 7 months ago
@AtheosRecords I'm not going to sit here and say that organized religion doesn't have it's problems but anything that helps someone get clean is a beautiful thing. We are all on a journey and this life is what we make of it. Who are you to judge anyone for what they believe?
boonskety 7 months ago
awesome! :D
thank God!
krononomikon 8 months ago 2
TheDarkLordLucifer 8 months ago
TheDarkLordLucifer 9 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer i ate a cake with cherries and i thank god for it because it wqas pretty awesome
roflzi 8 months ago
Theres always more than meets the eye,theres things science dont tell us.The ones who rule keep us confuse and in conflict.
MajesticMist 9 months ago
@AtheosRecords =) They were not starving to death. They were not trusting God. "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds. As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid, So is he who makes a fortune, but unjustly; (Jer 17.9-11) OUR HEART being right on judgement day is his highest concern.
inthelight7771 9 months ago
Psalm 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I obey your word.
Lamentations 3:33 For he does not enjoy hurting people or causing them sorrow!
Matthew 16:26 And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?
God chastens us in complete love desiring to change our hearts so we can be broken of our sin nature and come into fellowship with the divine nature of LOVE. Love is patient, kind, merciful, faithful, etc =)
inthelight7771 9 months ago
.....but I scattered them with a storm wind among all the nations whom they have not known. Thus the land is desolated behind them, so that no one went back and forth, for they made the pleasant land desolate." (Zech 7.8ff) God hates treachery, violence, cruelty, callused hypocrisy-things that knowingly (not accidentally) destroy people, community, safety, trust, joy, innocence, and beauty. This is not minor 'ritual' infractions nor petty stuff.
inthelight7771 9 months ago
..And they made their hearts like flint so that they could not hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets; therefore great wrath came from the Lord of Hosts And it came about that just as He called and they would not listen, so they called (not sincerely) and I would not listen," says the Lord of hosts
inthelight7771 9 months ago
Then the word of the Lord came to Zechariah saying, 9 "Thus has the Lord of hosts said, 'Dispense TRUE JUSTICE, and practice KINDNESS and COMPASSION each to his brother; and DO NOT OPPRESS the widow or the orphan, the stranger or the poor; and DO NOT DEVISE EVIL in your hearts against one another.' But they refused to pay attention, and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing...
inthelight7771 9 months ago
@AtheosRecords When murmuring and grumbling become dominant within any group, then even the leaders can start to succumb to it resulting in divisions in what should be a unified body. Why? Simply because at the heart of grumbling is selfishness and the quest to get what you desire, which goes against the law of love. This is always compounded by the fact that selfish human desires will never be satisfied. His ultimate goal is to bring us close to Him so we can experience His love which fills us!
inthelight7771 9 months ago
@AtheosRecords =) A lie opposes the truth. In our hearts we instinctively know right from wrong. We know there is such a thing as justice. When a murderer sadistically kills an innocent, we cry out for justice. God is a JUST God and when his creation, who has opened themselves up to the curse of anti-goodness go around destroying each other with hate & deception, He is so patient with us! Do you realize he gave Lucifer enough time to repent that He had enough time to decieve 1/3 of the angels?
inthelight7771 9 months ago
"Yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; he rises to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!" Isaiah 30:18 "Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindnesd tolerance & patience,not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?" Romans 2:4 "Tear your heart and not your garments.Return to the LORD your God, for he is gracious & compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love, and he RELENTS from sending calamity"Joel2:13
inthelight7771 9 months ago
Ezekiel 33:11 says "Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take NO pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?" Now that sounds more like a pleading Father wanting them to turn back to Him so He can make them live for they were going the ways of death and destruction and they gave themselves over to the destroyer, the lawless one, the liar Satan
inthelight7771 9 months ago
@AtheosRecords The nature of God is one of such love. He is the KINDEST person I ever met. Like you, I used to see the Prophet books in a negative way. But later on, as I knew God myself more personally, seeing him work in my own heart and life, seeing his great love, I began to see His true heart. "The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward yo, not wishing for ANY to perish but for all to come to repentence!" 2 Peter 3:9
inthelight7771 9 months ago
So religion is an even more powerful addiction than heroin.....interesting.
undeadpresident 9 months ago
Thank you for your wonderful testimony. Jesus is Lord.
songwriter4artists 10 months ago
thank you for this..sincerely
pradyce 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
How sad is it that baby killing bigots like you exist.
Sad...
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
Bigoted troll.
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
Hypocrite troll.. Don't try your BS with me. You're a worthless bigot.
report that...
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
Name calling... really from the bigot that called me a "faggot"? Don't try that with me.
You know what you are.
Go to hell... I can't stand bigots like you.
Your strawman bs won't work with me.
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
You're a baby killing bigot retard..
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
You're a retard... so you'd rather kill a kid than allow them to live? Guess what idiot... there are pervs that molest their own kids to!
This is a weak argument... and it's the basic fear argument... it fails.
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
I'd much rather an adoption center be built than an abortion clinic...
dex1391 10 months ago
@AtheosRecords
Not wanting churches to be built is a bigoted belief. Who are you to tell anyone what to build or not to build?
dex1391 10 months ago
the reason I am a believer is because an evangilist told me to go ask God what He wanted from me. I thought what ever...but a few months later I decided to ask God and well He answered me litterally in an audible voice and told me to repent. Do I care whether you believe me or not, No...Do I care whether you ask Him the same question, yap go ask Him if He is real to reveal Himself to you, I did and He did!
lucy9359 10 months ago
@Mrgyn
That's what they make dictionaries for...
a·the·ism /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
dex1391 11 months ago
4 this we both labor & suffer reproach because we HOPE IN THE LIVING GOD WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL MEN especially those who believe.
Letter 2 Timothy from Paul
From one former heroin addict who has been liberated and set free from all manner of evil and deep darkness. KUDOS 4 the faith & love of Christ which dwells in His servant/friends on this earth who by His Spirit would not give up on us but became a friend of sinners so that He WHO IS Mighty TO SAVE US would be manifest IN US 4 His Glory!!!
stasearoshell 1 year ago
go on. bro!
sthcrox 1 year ago
I enjoyed you're story, keep pushing forth brother
soldatheero 1 year ago
Well, who put God there?
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Who put God... where?
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 In the video he talks about the couple asking him where elephants came from, horses (sorry paraphrasing as I haven't watched it in a while) and then he comes to the conclusion (with the help of the couple) that God put them there. Well if we're using that argument, who put god there. You can't just say god did it and then stop. He added a step that doesn't need to be there and that doesn't answer the question. I agree with Granger, this was a hard video to watch. I couldn't watch it all
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7 Why can't you say that God did it?
Do you truly understand what God is? Do you have the ability to understand what God is?
Obviously God won't have an origin. At least not one that we could comprehend.
The question alone is arrogant.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 How is the question arrogant? I can see by your answer that you swallowed the kool-aid. Let me lay it out simply. If you are searching for the ultimate cause for something (which is what this man was asking) and then expect the final answer to just be God, you've answered nothing. God is not an answer, he is yet another cause and effect. So, as there is as of yet, not evidence for a god (will we find one? maybe, but not likely) you take it out of the equation.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7 Oh I see... So to defend your belief system you have to attack mine. That's pretty pathetic.
Why isn't God the answer? What you said made exactly no sense. The universe came to be from an intelligent creator... or by some non-intelligent means.
If you believe the 2nd fine... I have no problem with that.... But don't pretend that you have any more evidence for your belief than I do...
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 Typical. You complain once I start to show a little backbone. Remember, you were the first to say I was arrogant.
There is definitely evidence that we came about intelligently. All you have to do is search. On the other hand there is no evidence that we came about intelligently. If you have any (and please let them be original, I've heard many many incorrect ones) let me hear them. I'm all ears. And I mean that honestly.
And I don't want to hear the, "Things are complicated!" argument.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
You are arrogant... and ignorant. You simply believe that if you don't comprehend it... It must not be true.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 And why can't we comprehend it? And you call my question arrogant? It's the stupid God of the Gaps argument.
"How does this work?"
"God did it!"
"Well, how did he do it?"
"Shut up don't answer that. He's magical........He works in mysterious ways."
Ignorant.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Of course your argument is arrogant. Where's the evidence that you have the ability to comprehend what God is? What's ignorant is the idea that we even have that capability.
So how isn't it arrogant?
You have no evidence that a non-intelligence created the universe... yet you claim that your belief system is superior. Then you get offended when I call you arrogant.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 Again, you are saying we can't comprehend something that has not even shown itself to exist. That would be like saying you have no idea how to comprehend a unicorn with jade eyes, that flies based on the gravitational pull of the moons of Jupiter. It is not arrogant to question someone that has that belief. It is reasonable.
I am not offended, just trying to push back when someone says something incredible.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
No you're offended... and arrogant.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 Well I'm glad you understand my motives better than I do. I leave you in the knowledge that you cannot listen to anything that doesn't fit your preconceived ideas, no matter what they are. Having a spine is not arrogant. I didn't think you were arrogant at first just because you asked the initial question. I thought it was an honest question. I gave an honest answer and you immediately lashed out.
But, it doesn't matter because you'll always be like this. Good bye.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Attacking Christianity is a bigoted offense...
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 No it's not. Try again.
And no where did I specify that I was talking about Christianity. Replace Christianity with Islam, Buddha, Zoroastrianism, Roman gods, and you come to the same problem.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Replace it with atheism. same problem...
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 Except that athiesm doesn't tell you anything. It is not a set of beliefs. It's the absence. There is no central icon, no central tenants, no central dogma. Athiesm does not tell you what someone believes. It only tells you what the name implies; Absence of belief in a supreme being or beings.
It's like calling us Aunicornists. It only tells you that we don't believe in unicorns. Not what we believe.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Atheism has many beliefs...
I deny each of them...
The belief that God doesn't exist.
the belief that there is no afterlife.
The belief that we came along by chance
The belief that a non-intelligence created the universe.
That sounds like a fairy tale to me.
dex1391 1 year ago 14
@dex1391 Yessss...
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@dex1391 Yess...
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@dex1391 LOL you do realize that buddhists are atheists technically, right? An atheist can believe in the afterlife, that speaks nothing as to if there is a God or not. Atheism is the rejection of a claim that theists make, not the other way around. Nice try though.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
Actually... that's simply not true. I know a couple of Buddhists that do indeed believe in God.
I reject the claims of atheism...
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 well that is an odd group of budhists. it's believed that the Buddha himself believed that many religious ideas/the idea of god is based on fear, but power to your Buddhist friends I guess! Again, though, atheism is literally just the rejection of a God/Gods. You don't have to believe that we came along by "chance", or evolution, or an afterlife. Atheism is routed in naturalism, so I believe having some magical being whos immaterial, timeless, and all knowing is more of a fairy tale.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
Actually you do. If there's no designer... it's chance. There's simply no other option.
How is atheism NOT magic? You believe that the universe simply poofed from nothingness... which is obviously impossible.... but you still believe it.
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 so you're telling me what I believe? that's priceless! I have absolutely no idea how the universe began, and neither do most people. I'd rather wait for a scientific explanation than pull the God card out of my ass :) Atheists as a group do not claim the world came from nothingness, even the concept of nothingness is hard to grasp. some atheists/people in general believe in the big band, some don't. I don't know enough about the big bang to support it, so I'm fine with uncertainty.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
Of course you don't know but you sure claim to know that it didn't have a creator...
Where did it come from without a creator?
Atheism is the claim that everything came from nothing. An unscientific claim.
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 um again, where are you getting this from? you're still telling me what I believe? You should actually read what I write instead of projecting what you ASSUME atheists think. Where did I claim to KNOW it didn't have a creator? I'm an agnostic atheist; I don't know (nor claim to know, but you think otherwise), but I don't believe. Atheism is ONLY the rejection of Gods/deities. It has no bearing on science or the beginning of the world. I don't know if you're dumb or just trolling lmfao.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
I'm not projecting. You claim to be an atheist... unless you lied... that's what it is. That's what it means.
You believe that the universe didn't have a creator.
That means it came from nothing. There is no other option.
You try to dodge this because you know it makes your belief system look foolish... (because it is)
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 you told me I "claim to know" it had no creator, which is not what atheism is. You believe in a timeless, immaterial, omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent being that somehow existed before existence and time, which is a paradox in itself. That's a nice cop out, isn't it? Instead of actually doing work and figuring out how we're here, just say "Godditit!" I put more trust into the idea of physics figuring our origins out than God, sue me. Your position is the one making a claim, sorry.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
That's EXACTLY what atheism is.
Sorry but the idea that everything came from nothing is foolishness and magic.
I stopped believing in magic long ago. Atheism is a farce.
Your claims are illogical, unscientific, and impossible....
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 holy shit you are seriously going to make me do this I can't believe this lmfao.
ATHEISM/THEISM: CONCERNING BELIEF AGNOSTICISM/GNOSTICICM: CONCERNING KNOWLEDGE.
An agnostic atheist believes in no god, but does not claim to know. A theistic gnostic believes there is a god, and claims to know there is a go. You're seriously sad if you're trying to shift the burden of proof onto atheism, it's quite silly. Next time you're sick, sit at home and pray instead of going to a hospital. Please.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
LOL why shouldn't I go to a hospital?
I'm not the one that claims that there is no God.
I have a reason to live...
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 I AM NOT CLAIMING ANYTHING YOU IGNORANT FUCK. Momma told me not to feed trolls, but I can't help it. I BELIEVE there is no god, I claim NOTHING. Jesus titty fucking christ.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
I see then by belief in God is also not a claim? Is that what you're saying?
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 some atheists believe the universe has always existed as well, just like your god, so there is another option, despite you saying there isn't another one. Nice false dichotomy, though.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
If some atheists believe that the universe has always existed... then those atheists are more ignorant than most. We know that the universe isn't eternal.
BTW... there's no such thing as "your" God. I certainly don't own Him.
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 your referring to the God that you believe in, be it Jesus Christo, Allah, whatever myth you prefer.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@idreamtofflight
I prefer any myth other than the atheism myth..
Again.... there is no "your" God.
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 Yes, because believing there is no God (since that is ALL that atheism is) is such a myth, but your religion is perfectly sane, whichever it is. A naturalistic view of the world is fucking batshit crazy, you got me, but your wine turns into blood, yeah that's legit.
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
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a·the·ism
[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
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1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
of course it's a myth. You have proof?
You have proof that the universe poofed from nothing?
dex1391 9 months ago
@dex1391 big bang*** not big band haha
idreamtofflight 9 months ago
@dex1391 well then. God must be a myth then too?
We were created by an all knowing super-non-human being
The world was created in 7 days
Only a select number of people who do "good" can enter his kingdom.
He lives in the sky.
Sounds like a lot of hooplah to me.
M0j0S0D0pe420 6 months ago
@M0j0S0D0pe420
Of course if you can disprove it.
He lives in the sky? that's just stupid.
And if that sounds like hooplah ... what does ... out of nothing everything magically poofed from.
sound like?
dex1391 6 months ago
@dex1391 well the earth has been living for millions of years before we could ever record or discover..."God" just realized he hasn't created beings of his own and chose to create "everything" (hence the fact i just explained the earth has been living forever) us out of nowhere, without any recollection.
so how do YOU know a man magically poofed us? Have you actually witnessed this supernatural being? Or are you just following what one man "witnessed"?
M0j0S0D0pe420 6 months ago
@M0j0S0D0pe420
Um what? The Earth has been living forever?
How do you know that everything magically poofed from nothingness? Were you there?
dex1391 6 months ago
@dex1391 sadly i wasn't. but i read alot of archaeological accounts of fossils, and foundations, movements of land mass, receding waters, so on
i don't read a book of values that everyone mistakens to be the door to living under a God.
M0j0S0D0pe420 6 months ago
@M0j0S0D0pe420
That doesn't answer the question. How can you claim that the Earth has been here forever?
That's a foolish belief.
dex1391 6 months ago
@dex1391 How can you not claim? Science has proved the Universe expanding and creating planets long before "God" was even thought of.
M0j0S0D0pe420 6 months ago
@M0j0S0D0pe420
LOL ok... not one of your comments have made any sense... You're a troll..
dex1391 6 months ago
@dex1391 no you just can't answer because blind faith can't even rule out science.
You're a dumbass
M0j0S0D0pe420 6 months ago
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dex1391 6 months ago
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@M0j0S0D0pe420
LOL troll troll troll
Please tell me that English isn't your first language.
That has to be the problem here.
Go back and read your posts... they don't make any sense.
Where are you from?
"How can you not claim? Science has proved the Universe expanding and creating planets long before "God" was even thought of."
That's completely nonsensical What exactly is your question?
dex1391 6 months ago
@dex1391 What are you talking about? How can you believe that the earth is a few thousands years old, how do you explain that. We did our homework, we figured out how old the earth is via. sambles, instead of making it up in a random book found by some stoner in the past. That's what the bible is, a random story found by stupid people who had to much power. People back then weren't stupid, just missinformed by people with the power, so they could use them for their own good. That's religion.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL what are you talking about? I didn't say anything about the Earth being a few thousand years old.
Btw... it's TOO much power. You don't really have a grasp of the English language do you?
Funny that you want to mock the intelligence of others when you're not very bright yourself.
You have no idea what religion is.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 Really man, really - you blame my grammar, I missed an o at the end because i was typing so quick because i'm smarty smart smart, god damnit man. If you want to base my intelligence on an O go ahead, you do the same in religion, base your shit around what somebody wrote in a fucking book, sigh.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Actually I was insulting your intelligence... or to be truthful your lack thereof. It's not my fault that you're not very bright. I'm guessing public schooling correct?
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I'm also guessing that's why you're an atheist. You're afraid that the world will see you for your incredibly stupid self so you try to cling to what you believe to be a intellectual superior chess piece. Alas, you are wrong. There's nothing tangible about the belief in atheism.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 You think that I'm an atheist because of the fact that I want to show the world that I'm smart, as if it's a choice I made on the basis that I want to fit in.
I'm the only atheist in my class, so I ain't being forced. I'm an atheist because of what our history taught me. Don't go telling me that religion has helped mankind. It's all a great illusion.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
So you have some evidence for your atheism? Wow I'm in awe. I can't wait to see this. Please enlighten us. Show us the error of our ways. LOL.
If you can't... then obviously your atheism isn't a sign of intelligence. It's a sign of being weak minded and gullible.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 My evidence for my personal atheism is my own belief in God, I don't see any evidence. If you can prove me wrong and show me real signs that a superbeing actually plays a part in our life then I'll listen, but you can't, you can't say that because you THINK that there is doesn't show any clear evidence that this god excists. Not saying being religious is a bad way of living your life, but in my opinion is the easy and weak one.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
That's not evidence. That's not even close. There's simply no other answer to the origin of the universe without God.
You have nothing to back up your beliefs. You said you had some evidence... you said that history taught you that there's no God. Now show us this evidence. We really want to see it.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 I can't say that there isn't a God, but I assure you the god you believe in do not excist. But I want YOU to tell me what your evidence is that there is a God, something that isn't written in the bible.
God is your imaginary friend. I don't need evidence to back me up on that. It's so terribly weak to live by a book, and the only thing that back up your beliefs is something some wicked guys wrote in a book when they where high, I could've done the god damn same with a kids book.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL there's no such thing as "your" God. You said that you had evidence for your beliefs. You said that history had taught you that there's no God. Now ... come up. Lets see this evidence. Stop trying to run from the question.
You said it.. now back it up.
I love atheists like you when you're cornered... you usually resort to bigoted insults and logical fallacies. Can't wait to see you do the same...
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 You keep NOT to awnser my question, the only reason you believe in your god is in a book, and you base your evidence in this book, I can't give an awnser, I can't grasp the entirety of the universe, but you're trying to battle logic with imagination.
I want an awnser to why a god created this earth, from absolutely nothing.
We can look to space now and see about the same planets as the earth. I know if we ever find life on another planet, it will be darwinian. Meaning no god.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Simply not true. First of all I had a belief in God long before I was a Christian. So your claim that belief comes from a "book" is false. Now answer my question. You claimed that history taught you that atheism is an accurate belief system. Where is your evidence? What in history gave you this info?
LOL Darwinian? You're not one of those idiot atheists that believe that evolution is evidence for atheism are you? If you are don't bother me. I have no use for such stupidity.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 If you knew everything about your religion you could call yourself a christian, you don't, you clearly do not understand the fact that everything a christian person do is the deeds of what you were told when you where a kid, your reason to hate atheism is based that we want to know what is true, and religion do not have the awnser to this.
My evidence through history is that most of what you read in the bible is added thousand years after the event happend, it's only there to delude
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Sorry but you're wrong. The fact is that I became a Christian later in life. Your claims are debunked.
And your evidence has to do with the bible? First nothing you said there made any sense. And even if it were true... it still wouldn't be evidence for atheism.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 There isn't any evidence that Jesus even existed, it's just a folks tale, like so many others, but you're clouded mind does not realise that because you think that it would be wrong to question god, because you're a weak sack of shit to put it correctly that needs the bible to keep away from doing stupid things such as stealing and raping.
You're also extremely selfish in the belief that if you do good deeds here on earth, you save your own skin in the afterlife, terribly weakminded
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL Nice red herring. Yes... there is evidence for Jesus. I love hearing that stuff it cracks me up.
I'm still waiting for your evidence for atheism you claimed to have.
Do good deeds here on earth to save your own skin? What LOL you have no idea what a Christian is do you?
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 I believe that the darwinian way of thinking of life is relative in the fact that it can actually explain how we got here, and put all the strings together. Only fools are to believe that it just happend out of nowhere, that god just made dinosaur skeletons to mislead us. Why would he ever have to do that.
If you start talking about the devil, heres a thing to think about. The devil is just a way of expressing the terrible things a deluded person can do, if he or she feels like it.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Again with the Darwinian stupidity. That's another red herring. Sorry but evolution is irrelevant. it is in no way evidence for atheism. LOL
Dinosaur skeletons? What are you talking about? hahaha
I have a feeling English isn't your first language is it?
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 And you in your ignorence think that atheism is a bad thing because we question a story book. Again, why don't a start talking about the frog that turned into a prince.
Here we go, the prince was sated by the devil and turned into a frog for all eternity, then a young christian virgin came along, she kissed the prince, he turned into a prince again and then he was blessed. See, sounds just like the bible, but because its a kids book, we see the difference right?
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Atheism doesn't question a book... lol it's the belief that there's no God.
So again... you claimed to have some evidence. You said that history taught you that atheism is correct.
Are you going to show that evidence or not?
dex1391 4 months ago
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@ianlang7 "It's like calling us Aunicornists. It only tells you that we don't believe in unicorns. Not what we believe." LOL unicorns are actually oxes which were misinterpreted sideway images, obviously when you look at the correct angle at oxes the horns are perfectly symmetrical almost as if it were one "horn" LOL so you atheists don't believe oxen exist? and you call us christians crazy
StarRonKid 1 year ago
@dex1391 Could a god exist? Maybe. But so could Santa Clause. So could a bat with dentures. Hell, even fragglerocks may be real. But are we really gonna take any of this seriously? No. And why not? Because it's so highly unlikely, and no evidence shows the contrary, that we dismiss them.
Now, if someone comes out and finds a little skull or shows evidence of mining underneath with little axes, then we may have to conclude there could be something. But until that time, we ignore it.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
LOL you're just an ignorant fool. You only spew Dawkins BS. If I wanted to hear this... I'd just open up one of his bigoted books.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 Not really sure how this has anything to do with Dawkins but if it makes you feel better to put us all in a group called, "People who don't believe my stupid crap", then be my guest.
ianlang7 1 year ago
@ianlang7
Actually it's your stupid crap that I don't believe.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 I gave you evidence, you just ignore it. I keep telling you that throughout history the bible has been changed, the bible created religion, it created God, why would I believe someone that is obviously just a scam to make money. Even people in the 16th sentury knew this, they just used gods name to scare people, and keeps doing it. Every church in America tries to make profit out of religion, how could i possibly believe in god the allmighty money scam?
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL no you didn't give me any evidence. Even if the bible has changed.... that's still not evidence for atheism. Sorry you failed.
Again... I wasn't an atheist before I was a Christian.
So I'll ask again. Where's your evidence? You made the claim. Now back it up.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 I keep telling you, again, you decide to decline that fact that your religion is made up by people just as yourself.
You have to stop trying to be such a godfag, you're just following blind beliefs because you can't live your life without it, cry baby.
You don't have any evidence yourself it seems, you just think to believe that everything just started from.. something.
You keep rejecting what I'm trying to explain. Go suck Ted Haggard. So I don't have to listen to you.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL I called it. You had to resort to bigotry. Do I know you guys or do I know you guys. LOL typical atheist.
Sorry but you failed. You made the claim and failed to back it up.
You're the one following blindly. You're a sheep. I've proved that.
You made the claim... you failed. You're pathetic.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 Who are you calling pathetic, you can't say anything else then, BACK IT UP, LOL, and something you've read off other people. You clearly don't have a mind of your own, you react like you think it's your duty for god, so you can travel to heaven, you're a freak, a delude spass who doesn't want to make anything of himself in this life, so he's waiting to die so he can go to this imaginary place he made up for himself, you sir. are pathetic in so many ways.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
You made the claim. Perhaps if you couldn't back something up you should think before you post. You also may want to work on your English. It's horrible.
Let's put it on the table you failed. You're just another mindless troll who read one too many Dawkins books. Fact is.... you claimed to have evidence and you don't. You're both a liar and a moron.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 HAHA, you make me laugh, you try and make yourself think you're something, you're a mindless godpraying American that think he has it all. Go eat your hotdogs, stuff it in your mouth, you might meet Jesus that way? You call atheist morons, saying we read too many books, but you live by a book because if you didn't have it your life would have no meaning, which it doesn't, cause you're just one of a billion that just have to believe in something so you don't cry at night.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Eat your hotdogs. Haha I love it. I do call atheists morons. And more specifically you. You are a moron.
You made a claim and you were proven a liar.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 You should stop trying to convince people you're something. You're not. You're a mindless hopeless person. You failed at school, you failed at living, you turn to God.
I'm done with you, if you want to question my English go ahead, i'll question your faith, no problem.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL yes... I failed wait... I'm not the one that made a claim and couldn't back it up. That would be you.
So you failed. And you've been proven a liar.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 Oh yes, and I didn't need to read any of Richard Dawkins books, I've been a born atheist, you think bad things happen for a reason, why would they? Is it Gods will? Hell no, it's the will of people like you, believing in nonesense because you think, well we can't prove God wrong, because then we'll burn in hell, pussies, cowards, morons, deluded godpraying freakshows.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
Right. You're just another Dawkins bot. You read what he's selling and you bought into it. How many millions do you think he's made off you people?
I knew you'd become a bigot. I knew it was only a matter of time. lol You are all the same.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 How can you say that, you're like every god damn American christian, you think because you give money to church that you're suddenly a good guy, or spreading words out about God who will save you WHEN YOU DIE?
You're like every christian in the world, won't shatter their beliefs because they are too scared.
You problably also have something against homesexuallity I guess? Since that's something god created so you can tell people how bad it is? Like every other christian person..
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
LOL so I guess I should give my money to the church of Dawkins like you do right? hahaha
If you want to "shatter my beliefs" Do it. You're the one that claimed to have some evidence. But of course we've learned that to be a lie.
Homosexuality. LOL now you're throwing in red herrings. I love it.
I called it. I called it. I know you atheists. You're all the same.
dex1391 4 months ago
@dex1391 I'll let myself deside if i'm a liar, i've been proven a liar by you, not your God, your god loves me, he sucks me dick clean, beutiful ain't it?
If you try to find inner peace, go smoke some weed, you can feel the effects, if you're even cooler, start doing meth and LSD, that'll help you right up! Jesus is waiting for you my deluded son, he will suck you cleeeean.
Cosyforfun 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun
NO you don't get to decide. I've proven that you are a liar. You made a claim. I asked you to back it up. You couldn't. That's proof.
You're a liar and a bigot. You're just a typical atheist... lol
dex1391 4 months ago
@Cosyforfun you are an asshole. Stop calling yourself an Atheist, because your not. Your an Asshole. and dex1391, he is NOT a typical atheist.
BadGroundBand 2 months ago
@Cosyforfun lol you need help dude...BADD
southerneducation420 2 months ago
I think it's fantastic that Jon was able to kick the awful heroin habit, but from an atheist's perspective, this was painful to watch. Man couldn't create beautiful things like mountains and trees, therefore... god had to have done it? I hope he can turn to reason and away from superstition without losing his new positive outlook.
ChrisGranger 1 year ago
@ChrisGranger Sorry, but it takes way more faith to believe this entire world was created by chance. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
GodsServant05 1 year ago
@GodsServant05 Declaring that your specific deity must have created everything rather than searching for the answers to questions you might have about the universe is intellectually lazy, and a cop-out. Enjoy your ignorance, though.
ChrisGranger 1 year ago
@ChrisGranger
Oh I see... so when someone doubts biblical claims... They're a free thinker... But when someone doubts an atheist claims... they're lazy and ignorant...
You're a hypocrite... If you're going to claim to be a skeptic... you must allow others to be skeptical of your claims...
dex1391 1 year ago
@GodsServant05
Beautifully said...
dex1391 1 year ago
Anyways, I'm glad that you got off of heroin; but, don't paint Atheist in a negative light because you were easily influenced to use drugs. Please! Don't paint Atheist in that way because instead of telling a personal journey of transformation you end up coming off as a pompous jerk who now wants to spew rhetoric against Atheist and Atheism!!!!!
apollomiami83 1 year ago
It seems to me, Patrick, that you were willing and ready to accept anything that could have gotten you off of heroin. I understand that it's an addictive drug but you're the type of personality who was at a weak point in his life and was very "open to suggestion" from anyone who had a message that conflicted with your cherish held non-belief (i.e. Atheism).
apollomiami83 1 year ago
Patrick, you said there are no coincidences and that something "divinely inspired" led you into the path of religious believing individuals who got you off of drugs. Nevertheless, couldn't this have been a "coincidence" where you were supposed to convert those religious individuals to Atheism?
apollomiami83 1 year ago