"The trinity is the doctrine that there is One God and that He consists of 3 distinct persons but there is not 3 gods there is One" Bro what kind of language are you speaking?
1 + 1 + 1 = 3 lol. Open your eyes christians. I could go on about the jews too but there's not enough room haha.
The problem with a Monad (single, solo, alone) god, is that if this god 'loves', who is the object of His love? A monad god must necessarily create creatures in order to express love. By definition, this god is deficient and incomplete. Additionally, being entirely alone, who would he speak to? Would he even be able to say, 'let there be light'? Have you spent all day alone in your house? With no one around, you don't say much; no reason to. In Trinity, there is love *before* creation.
It boggles the mind why Christians keeps on saying after so long that Jesus died or rather crucified to atone for our sins. There is nowhere in the bible where it says that Jesus volunteered to be crucified to pay for the sins of the world. HE WAS CRUCIFIED BY THE JEWS FOR BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE JEWISH RELIGION meaning he sinned.
@acson005 John 10:18. In addition, Jesus taught several times that he would have to be sacrificed for the sins of the people. The first time he taught this, he had to rebuke Peter for saying, 'not so Lord'. Peter could not accept that the Messiah would have to die; to him, it meant the destruction of everything Israel hoped for. Jesus consistently put the pressure of people away saying, 'my time is not yet'. I could go on, but, space limitations.
Jesus said become as little children to understand God. You think the trinity (3 gods in 1, co-equal,co-eternal &co-knowing) is best reflected as a "father/son",or would a child better understand them as brothers,identical twins, triplets or even kids today understand clones? Whereas Father=older. John4:1-10 Jesus was tempted with evil trials 3 times, but James1:13 says God cant be tempted or tried. So it makes since Jesus himself said he had the same God as his disciples, the Father! John 20:17
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. The Holy Spirit is poured out on the people when we repent and believe in Christ! It is sad how people are trying following keeping the law when they have broke it & hoping to get saved by their deeds. When the Bible says very clearly Salvation is the work of God. Salvation is from God.
Please speak English - does 3 different persons equal 1 person? Jesus never claimed to be god or asked people to worship him, there is not a single unambiguous statement in the whole bible where he claims divinity or asks people to worship him. You Christians will never accept something that is slapping you in the face. How can you ever have faith in a corrupted text which has so many contradictions.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
Jesus says he is I AM. That phrase was first mentioned to Moses at the burning bush.
Also if you read Luke 20:42-44 you will see that Jesus quotes David from the Old testament where he wrote in Psalms 110:1 which states that the LORD talks to the Lord which is Jesus. And in Genesis one, God says let us make man...... Evidence of a plural God is all over the Bible.
@IamaZionistGoy God identifies Himself by saying me or I, because the Godhead functions as one. God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit existing as one. So no matter who speaks, it's still God speaking. Again like I said, it's all over scripture.
@freshtildeathonline If you were working on the sheep farm and I say to you to bring in the sheep. Would you bring one or the lot? Does sheeps exist?
If I say to you catch the fish from the pond would you catch one or wait till you caught all of them? fishes exist?
Exodus 20:2-3, Numbers 23:19, Deuteronomy 4:35, Deuteronomy 4:39, Deuteronomy 32:39, I Samuel 2:2, I Samuel 15:29,I Kings 8:60, II Kings 19:19, Isaiah 40:18, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 42:8. No jman found in the Tanakh.
The mighty Tovia Singer. Possbl. the world's best Anti-Missionary - at his best!
Christian stay with their Idolatry, worshipping a jewish man as godhead, just because the NT and the medieval catholic church tells them so! Hari Kishna - brother Jesus!
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
This is ridiculous - God three in one and one in three? God dies on Cross, meaning God is dead, so what happened to the world when he was dead?
New Testament? So now you editing, emitting and adding to the Holy book with your own hands and call it Divine, Holy? Your lies may work in this world, fear the day when you will stand in front of God alone on the day of Judgement and you will be questioned for misguiding humans with you handwriting
If you actually studu the scriptures you can clearly see thay there is no trinity. Jesus states thay he is weaker than God and he constantly said worship the Father. Jesus never intended for himself to be worshipped but for the Father(God) to be worshipped. Also in the hebrew scriptures it never states anywhere that God is a triad or that the Messiah is God but that God is one. That the Father is God and that Jesus is not God. And the Holy Spirit is Gods Helper not God.
I ADMIRE TOVIA, iSnt Quran says that same Thing. WHAT DOES THE ABRAHAM SAYS AOUT GOD... THAT God is One and Abraham Himself was the Friend of God. Then why he never said anything about Trinity.
@lakzev's quoting of Malachi 3:1, Jeremiah 31:31, Matthew 26:28, and Isaiah 28:11-29 are refuted in Deuteronomy 13:5 & 21:22-23 that Jesus is a false prophet and accursed by God via the Crucifixion. Jesus says in Matthew 7:1-2 "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." AND Jesus teaches that all children are born sinless in Matthew 19:14 to refute the Original Sin. Jesus is a prophet.
@vicachcoup look into Islam. Study the Qur'an not from a anti Islam website. I was an atheist myself so I'm only offering you something better. No insults please I've heard all the negatives on Islam and investigated them myself, in the end the negative propaganda doesn't hold up against the truth. Peace.
@vicachcoup Dr Craig is respect worthy that he fights with atheists.... Tho he is from people of Book so i as a Muslim respect him But Trinity is false their exists only One God and all must glorify him xD
Micah 6 "For the lord has a COMPLAINT against his people, and he will contend with ISRAEL....TESTIFY AGAINST ME......with what shall I come before the Lord and bow myself before the high God, shall I come before him with Burnt offerings, with calves a year Old....shall I GIVE MY FIRST BORN FOR MY TRANSGRESSIO, THE FRUIT OF MY BODY FOR THE SIN OF MY SOUL. HE has shown you O Man what is good, and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love Mercy and to walk Humbly with your God."
Psalm 65: 1-5 “Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Zion: and unto thee shall the VOW be performed. O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come. Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away. Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy HOLY TEMPLE."
Note in Psalm 2 “"Take COUNSEL against the Lord and against his Anointed (Messiah-which means Anointed One).... Yet I have Set MY KING on MY Holy Hill of ZION."
THE WORD “COUNSEL”
IS ACTUALLY REFERING TO “before the Sanhedrin”
Mark 15:53-63 "Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus..... “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” They all condemned him as worthy of death."
Psalm 2 "You shall break them with a ROD OF IRON."
Micah 6 "The Lord's voice cries to the city, WISDOM shall see your Name. HEAR THE ROD who has Appointed it..."
Psalm 110 "The Lord says to MY Lord, "Sit at my Right Hand, till I make your Enemies your footstool. The Lord shall send the ROD OF YOUR STRENGTH OUT OF ZION. Rule in the midst of your enemies."
Isaiah 28: 5-7 "In that day Lord Almighty will be a......Spirit of Justice to HIM WHO SITS IN JUDGEMENT."
Psalm 65:4 "Blessed is the MAN whom thou choosest and causest to approach unto thee that he may dwell in thy courts we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house even of thy Holy TEMPLE."
NOTE: "is the man whom thou choosest" in HEBREW IS "bachar" (baw-khar').
Psalm 65:1 "Praise awaits you, O God, IN ZION; to you our VOWS will be fulfilled."
FROM COMMENT BELOW IN PSALM 24;
I HAVE PROVEN THAT THIS "KING" ON "ZION" IS GOD......WHAT IT SAYS!!!!!
Pslam 2 "Take Counsel against the Lord and against his Annointed (Messiah-which means Annointed One)....Yet I have Set MY King on MY Holy hill of Zion."
For definition of this "KING", turn to Psalm 24
Psalm 24 "And the King of Glory shall come in. Who is this King of Glory? The Lord of Hosts, HE is the King of Glory."
Psalm 53:6 "Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion! When God restores the fortunes of his people, let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!"
@Biblefeast The word one is the same as saying two become one flesh in Genesis 2:24. Yeshua is as real to us as the cloud and fire that Israel followed in the desert, and furthermore, Gen 18:22 makes it clear that Abraham stood and spoke with The Lord, specifically YHWH. If three MEN were there in verse 2, and 2 MEN went on to Sodom in ch 19:1, then obviously God was the other man. Come on fellow Jews, this is not difficult to understand. One Father YHWH, dwelling with us in different ways.
I am a Christian and I question the trinity, the virgin birth, the doctrine of hell, salvation for only those who confess Jesus, everything that started in Rome has to come into question. Follow the Way, not man made traditions. The 2 greatest commandants, Love your God (one God) with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself.
I tell you truly, He who is the Father is the son and they that are Father and son are Holy Spirit and one God. If you have seen the Son you have seen the Father and spirit for they are one and the same. A little child plays this out as they play with bubbles, one thin film becomes many bubbles and if you catch a bubble and blow at it again it creates more bubbles. If this were not so then one film should create one bubble. Have Love Compassion and Forgiveness toward each other!
wtf? every single time someone idiot Christian tries to explain the Trinity, he/she stumbles and makes no sense,,,,,it's like saying the "Triangle/Rectangle doctrine",,,,,,,the Triangle had three corners, but it needed an extra corner in order to become the Rectangle so it became 3 dimensional and there we can see that the 3d Triangle has 4 corners now, and 4 corners can make up a Rectangle in 2 dimensional realm,,,,,,,,,WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BULLSHIT IN THIS WORLD?
Jesus is the name given to know for salvation to those who believe as it's written in the bible. It's the new name promised to his people in the old testament.
There just confused, because the jewish cat doesnt accept the new testament and the pastor doesnt understand scriptures such as John 1:18; Deut 6:4... John 14:28 ... 1 Cor 8:5,6 .... etc... not only that the Nicean creed 325 AD and constatine....
I like this program. Cool. Civilized debates. Specific subjects. I think Judaism won the debate in this one. Trinity got no defence at all. Here the Jewish the Muslim view of God are the same. Only One God
Best way to explain it is you are a FATHER to your kids, a SON to you parents and have a SPIRIT inside your body so guess what you are still just 1 PERSON...DO U GET IT...GOD BLESS YOU ....JESUS SAVES...
Christions believe in a monoistic God.Father, Spirit, Jesus are One.The trinity was never seperated not even in Christ death. Christ always One in Spirit with Father, Holy Spirit was never seperated God must be One to be God in trinty.Therefore Christ died in flesh but in Spirit was always in union. God never died on the cross. Though Jesus is God He gave up the body prepared for Him in death to redeem not God dying.The tri unity had no seperation when the patriarchs related. God is One
I am one of many many CHRISTIANS who does NOT believe in the trinity. Man, the more I hear a sincere trinitarian give the definition of the trinity so seriously, the more satanic it sounds to me.
@Keruaran LOL, you ask that question as if there's no other way to be Christian and as if you don't know of any other way to believe lol. I believe that Jesus was who he said he was, God's SON :). I believe what Jesus taught (which was NOT the trinity). I believe that God is Jesus' dad :) I believe that God is Holy and that God is a Spirit, but that doesn't make the HOLY SPIRIT (God) into a SEPERATE God that is a part of some wacked out triune puzzle.
You make no mention of scripture that asserts the divinity of Christ at all. You say you believe what Jesus taught yet the experience of the Apostles with Jesus in the gospels is trinitarian in nature long before any theologian thought of a term to describe this. Lastly, you are not clear on who and what you believe the Holy Spirit is while at the same time you make the category error of defining the Holy Spirit in the trinity as a separate god. That is not what the trinity is.
I don't know why my question is "LOL" to you, or why you run with so many presumptions. But it seems to me that you are not being very forthcoming about what you yourself actually believe, which was the question I asked after all.
Trinity is silly, is Jesus then his own father? Or is he his own son? That doesnt make sense, and if you say: the father and son are distinct you believe in polytheism
There is one God, he gave his Son & he promises his Holy Spirit to all who believe the gospel. The man Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Yet, he is equal with God by His divine nature because He is the Word of God. By his divine nature he is eternal yet in his humanity he has a beginning. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, who sent his Son, the Christ, to be our Savior. Scripture bears witness to the deity of Christ but the message of the gospel is that he is the Christ the Son of God.
Numbers 23 States that "God is not a man that he should lie." God is making a distinction between his divinity and mans humanity claiming that as divinity he does not act/reason as humans do. The other fact is that in Genes is The Torah, God said "Let us make man in our image", my question is who is "us"? and when man sinned God stated he has become like one of "us" Moses asked God's name Exodus 3:14 God said "I AM" In John 8:48 Jesus says "before Abraham was born I AM!"
The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God—but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential.
i believe oness of God and i am a christian.. Look at it this way i am a father, i am a son, i am a youtuber but what is my name Jared same with God he is one God and his name is Jesus which means Jehovah savior
@mattetho im honestly trying to understand it. Why cant Jesus not be a man, but not be God? There is someting in the middle in that he was a prophet. Is that not an option?
The bible is very clear. All the mess comes by adding the philosophy of Trinity when you say that God is three persons. God is manifested in three ways, yet He is Spirit, and He is one, no three persons. This is what the bible says and there is no confusion on it.
Modalism, shows that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit never all exist at the same time, only one after another. I don't see that. This is as confusing as Trinity to me. I do not follow any theological doctrine out of the bible. I believe in the bible alone.
God is eternal. To say that God' manifestations existed at certain points is awkward. Jesus was under the power of The Holy Spirit. You can see that the bible says that he was full of the Holy Spirit more than once
@WhiteSky14 One is the same as saying two become one flesh in Genesis 2:24. Yeshua is as real to us as the cloud and fire that Israel followed in the desert, and furthermore, Gen 18:22 makes it clear that Abraham stood and spoke with The Lord, specifically YHWH. If three MEN were there in verse 2, and 2 MEN went on to Sodom in ch 19:1, then obviously God was the other man. Come on fellow Jews, this is not difficult to understand. One Father YHWH, dwelling with us in different ways.
JESUS IS THE ONE WE PRAISE! jESUS IS THE ONE WE ADORE! JESUS IS THE REASON WE LIVE AND WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING! Jesus is the King of kings! HE is the Lord of lords! He is the Mighty Counselor,Everlasting Father,the Prince of Peace! HE is the ALMIGHTY! He is the Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the end! HE is the Son of God and the Savior of the world! Jesus is the name above all names! JESUS is the soon coming Judge of all! HE is our God and HE is our salvation! There is nobody like Him
@Acts5171819 So, non-Christians do not, or cannot ever have access to the context of the Bible without becoming offspring of the One of whom none was born to nor was He born from anything? How will a non-Christian ever be able to critically analyze the Bible and choose to become a Christian with this type of monopoly in affect? Sorry, another big time fail. Your argument is no different then the rest. I'm not a child of God and I am not chilling with the ghost, therefore the truth is off limits?
People in the first century—like many today—worshiped “those who are called ‘gods,’ whether in heaven or on earth.” Paul, in fact, said: “There are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’.” However, he also explained: “There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.
People in the first century—like many today—worshiped “those who are called ‘gods,’ whether in heaven or on earth.” Paul, in fact, said: “There are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’.” However, he also explained: “There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.
As Adam was just a human being, was it right that the ALMIGHTY come down and offer himself up. NO of course not, that is ridiculous and not what was lost in eden, this why Jesus is not God.
Jesus had origin, Micah 5:2, Prov 8:22, referred to as the firstborn of CREATION Col 1:15, He was Begotten Jn 1:18.
If ANYONE preaches to us a gospel other than the one taught by the apostles,he is accursed by God-even if that someone is an angel(Galatians 1:6-10)......
How was Abraham saved? Singer claims that according to Christians he could not be saved because he did not know of nor believe in Jesus as God's Son and Savior. That is simply a red Herring. Abraham was saved by grace through *faith* in God's mercy. That is how anyone through all time is saved. That is how Adam was saved. That is how Noah was saved.
As the narrative of God's revelation proceeded it became clear that God's mercy was particularly revealed in the person of God's Messiah.
@campdon Jesus fully fit all the OT descriptions of Messiah. He also completed the OT types of the Passover lamb and the sacrifices of the Torah. That means God's mercy is fully revealed in the Messiah and appropriated by faith - just as Abraham appropriated God's mercy by faith.
Singer is doing what the Pharisees did. They preferred their traditions over God's revelation. They killed the prophets, and they killed Jesus. Singer may not go that far, but he is a son of the Pharisees.
BTW re: Messiah as God. Does not Isaiah 9:6, 7 say that the one who would sit upon David's throne (Messiah) is a child, a son, Mighty God (gibbowr EL)?
Is the trinity a creation of the Catholic Church? Hardly. It is woven throughout the Bible and clear in the NT - hundreds of years before any council of churches.
BTW re: Singer's issue about "God is not a man": Complete the quote please. "God is not a man that he should lie." The point is that God is not like men. He is not in nature like men. (It would be completely foreign to the OT to think otherwise. )
But the NT does not say that God is a man. It says that the "Word became flesh" (John 1:14) The Divine took on the form of man (Phil. 2:7). Did not God in the OT take on the form a man? (Gen. 32:24-30)
I do not believe that the plurality of God is at all in conflict with the unity of God. Nor do I believe the idea of the trinity is absent in the OT. My goodness, is not the Spirit of God clearly seen as active in the OT? Is not the word for God, Elohim, itself plural. And is not the angel of the Lord, so often seen in the OT, an indication that God known in more than one one way or form?
For the rest of you, you failed big time Biblically and politically you guys are quite maddening. You have been commanded to worship God alone without ascribing partners. The trinity is a partnership involving God and two other beings. Leave the false worship and maintain purity of worship for God alone. Jesus prayed many times in the Bible. Who was he praying to, himself? Of course not. He was praying to and worshipping God. Why don't Christians, who claim to follow Jesus, do the same?
@malachithemessenger ROFL! Listen dude! My grandparents live about 5 minutes from Tel Aviv and my mother was raised in Israel. Oh yeah, and Jesus is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. ROFL! You are freaking funny! Would you mind referencing a verse the Jesus said that? Hebrew or English, it doesn't matter. ROFL!
@proverbs2wisdom ""Satan,get behind me,"I believe were the words Jesus used."
You didn't quote Jesus. There is no chain of transmission between Jesus and any book in the Bible. Actually, it's impossible for you to quote Jesus directly. At best, you have second hand narrations. All those quotes from John's Gospel are not direct. That basically nullifies your belief.
@johnthebookof Paul flip-flopped on the issue of circumcision and his views of the Law because he knew how the Jews had subjugated the people with the Law, hence the abolishment of not only circumcision, but the law as a whole. The people were not willing to accept the same subjugation as was known at the time. Jesus clearly upheld the Law and maintained its tenants and admonished the Jews for subjugating the people.
@johnthebookof One of the clearest proofs that Paul didn't know what he was talking about was his letter to Galatia. Paul states in Galatians 3:21, "If a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would be based on the law." This statement is in direct contrast to Jesus' saying in Matthew 19:17, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments," and God's saying in Proverbs 7:2, "Keep my commands and live."
@johnthebookof In the first chapter of Galatians, Paul accuses the Galatians of being religious turncoats, a similar use of the word translated, "turning...away" or "deserting". Paul used guile to maintain a monopoly on the religious bodies in the area. Admonishing the Galatians to adhere to his and only his Gospel. God forbid anyone recognize a Gospel being taught by, say, a chosen disciple of Jesus. Someone who walked, talked, and prayed with Jesus. Was Paul not aware of the four main Gospels?
I find it very interesting,this sight and others like it.Islam has launched an all-out assault on christianity.And why not?They attack Israel-the natural branch.So,they will attack the body of Christ-the adopted branch.Shalom to all my broters and sisters in the common faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.Fear not,for what you see is a sign of the end.It must be so,but God is not moved.God is still faithful til the end.
@hebrews1234 "I find it very interesting,this sight and others like it.Islam has launched an all-out assault on christianity..."
You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world? Exactly how many Churches have been newly built in Iraq since the beginning of the war and how many containers of Arabic and Persian translations of religious pamphlets have been sent? Jesus would be ashamed of your slimy tactics.
@tadpoleposition lol-You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world?'----No,we refer to the charities and such that are fronts for your Jihadi warriors,as they attempt to spread Islam by the sword.Whose slimy now?
@tadpoleposition lol-You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world?'----No,we refer to the charities and such that are fronts for your Jihadi warriors,as they attempt to spread Islam by the sword.Whose slimy now?
Or maybe we should look at the slimy tactics of guys like Yassir Arafat,Osama Bin Laden and 'whatever that guys name is in Iran.'Nice-you guys can't tell the truth to save your life can youz?
@tadpoleposition The bottom line is this,dude.You are children of Ishmael,which means you are outside of the loop from the start.You are not even children of the covenant.The jealousy of the devil is aroused.
BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST-Be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might(Ephesians 6:10)! Put on the whole armor of God,to stand against the schemes of the devil(Ephesians 6:11)! Satan used God's word against Eve(Genesis 3),so know that he will try to use it against you as well! Press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus(Philippians 3:14)! Great is our reward in heaven,when we obey His word,and are faithful even unto death.
@proverbs2wisdom Warrior said "Obviously,Paul had learned some things between those times,regarding the gospel of Jesus Christ." regarding my claim of Paul's flip-flopping on the issue of circumcision. The dialogue ended with 2timothy211 stating, "The enemy may win some battles,..."
In other words, Warrior had no clear explanation for Paul's flip-flopping and Timothy came in to console Warrior. That is but one of the many things Christians cannot provide clarity.
@proverbs2wisdom "the bible says Satan is the accuser of the brethren,"
Need I remind you that Paul was the one accusing his brethren of Galatia?
"Foolishness is on your lips,"
So, encouraging you to leave the false worship of a partnership and single out God and maintain purity of worship for God alone is foolishness? I guess I am guilty.
You comments don't even add up Biblically, nevermind make sense. Then you go and blind-follow Warrior without him ever sourcing his explanation.
@proverbs2wisdom 1 Cor. 12:16, I did not burden you, but being crafty I took you by guile. Psalms 32:2, Blessed is the man to whom the LORD imputes not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. Islam means submission to the One True God. Jesus was a Muslim by definition. When he prayed, "nevertheless, not my will, but your will be done," he was in full submission to God Almighty. Why can't you see that? Jesus fell on his face and prayed as do Muslims. Muslims follow Jesus in truth.
@proverbs2wisdom "The puzzle is before your eyes,and your are not getting it."
Puzzle? You are steeped in darkness and coming with some wacko machinations about Iran and Russia being in cahoots with one another and tying it to some verse in Isaiah you have no idea what the true interpretation is. Islam is the truth. When Jesus returns, he will be with the Muslims. The Christians and Jews have both rejected the true message of the Prophets. Your obsession with Israel is maddening. Peace!
@proverbs2wisdom "And yet you are an enemy of Israel,whom the bible testifies to that they are God's nation."
Matthew 21:43, "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Umm, you contradicted Jesus. Politically and Biblically you are lost. Are you so obsessed with your machinations that you never once considered I might be telling you the truth? Be objective. I'm giving you the same message Jesus gave his people.
@johnthebookof "The scriptures you qouted are meaningless to your argument.The proof is before your eyes-you just refuse to see it."
The verses I quoted work against your deification of Jesus. You deem them meaningless because of that. You have not provided any proof. The next thing you'll do is claim you're chilling with the Holy Ghost and I am not and you're a child of God and I am not. When all else fails, when even the Bible works against you, you resort to that flimsy argument. Peace!
@proverbs2wisdom John 20:17, "I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." The 6 Day War and Yom Kippur don't help your not so Biblical rant. Jesus clearly worshipped his God and clearly had a God. Deifying Jesus is not Biblical. When it comes to the Bible, the Christian creed fails. When it comes to politics, you stink like a skunk. I've told you clearly to single out God in worship. You choose to follow the footsteps of Satan and worship others along with God. Peace!
@proverbs2wisdom Luke 5:16, But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed. Mark 1:35, Very early in the morning...Jesus...went off to a solitary place, where he prayed. Luke 6:12, One of those days Jesus...spent the night praying to God. Luke 22:41, He...knelt down and prayed. Mark 12:29, The Lord OUR God is one Lord. Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knows no man...neither the Son... Jon 14:28, The Father is greater than I. Luke 18:19, Jesus said, Why callest thou me good?
@johnthebookof "The scriptures you qouted are meaningless to your argument.The proof is before your eyes-you just refuse to see it." I know you hate being Biblically schooled by a Muslim, but I am a former Christian who knows about the secrets that Divinity Schools don't teach the masses.
Also....2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
@2peter11617 Luke 19:27, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me." Should I do what you did and take the verse as is without mentioning the context and then say something like "The wickedness of Christianity exposed"? Get real.
@tadpoleposition Luke 19:27 was a parable-do you get it?A story by Jesus to explain spiritual things.You cannot compare that to the atrocities of Islam.
@2peter11617 My point was, should I go ahead and single out one verse from the Bible and intentionally not mention the context? It's quite devilish. That whole "kill them wherever you find them" argument is quite kindergartenish. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13, "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." Peace!
@2peter11617 Coupling that verse with historical events, i.e., the Spanish Inquisition, or current events, the invasion and mass slaughtering in Iraq or Afghanistan or both, take your pick, and guess what you have? The exact same thing you accuse Muslims of, i.e., attrocities based on the teachings of their "Holy" Book. Grow up!
What is Islam all about?Read their quran for yourself: 2:244 Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.
@johnthebookof "The Divinity and Diety of Jesus Christ is something the apostles taught the early church,because it was what Jesus taught to them."
Prove it. Is it when Jesus said, "Why do you call me good, there's only one that is good that is God" or "None knows the hour...not the SON..." or "The Father is greater than I" or the fact that Jesus was tempted by Satan. That's not a divine being. John 10:30 in context is in Chapter 17 of John. This whole Jesus said, "I am" is all you have.
@Acts5171819 "I read some of the comments between them,and tadpole couldn't even get scripture right."
The only thing Warrior had left was to say stuff like "I'm a child of god, you're not" and "I'm chilling with the Holy Spirit, you're not". That proves nothing. I explained to him thoroughly what the context of John 10:30 as EXPLAINED BY THE AUTHOR OF JOHN HIMSELF. He decided to self-interpret some machinations that strayed from the context.
@proverbs2wisdom Antagonism is an attribute of Satan. Good try being Christ-like. Anyone, except you, who looks over our dialogue can easily see Warrior stood on, at best, shaky ground. Your antagonism does prove one thing, you or Warrior can't prove a thing. That whole 100% god 100% man crap, then god is killed by his creation to save man from his sins as if God doesn't possess mercy and forgiveness to simply forgive us without killing himself. It's an absolute joke.
@johnthebookof So, we can conclude that Jesus is less than the greatest, yet part of a partnership that makes him equal with the Greatest? He's less than and equal to the greatest at the same time? You people make Jesus look like a fool, which he's not. He spoke in clear, unequivocal terms, not these mysterious, undecodable terms. God is One. The trinity is a partnership that includes God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. God has no partners. He alone is worthy of worship.
@proverbs2wisdom When's the last time you took a dump? You're full of crap! Warrior contradicted himself many times over and another commenter, Christian, even conceded to that fact. When it comes to the concept of God, Islam's is second to none.
@johnthebookof Luke 5:16, But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed. Mark 1:35, Very early in the morning...Jesus...went off to a solitary place, where he prayed. Luke 6:12, One of those days Jesus...spent the night praying to God. Luke 22:41, He...knelt down and prayed.
@johnthebookof What do you do with those verses that disprove Jesus' alleged divinity? You know, "The Father is greater than I", "No man knows the hour...not the son...", "There is one that is good,that is God", "The Lord our God is One", "He fell on his face and prayed" and so on.
@johnthebookof Please! The Book of John is the latest known Gospel, written some some 60 years after Jesus ascended. Imagine the plethora of stories that circulated regarding Jesus' life. If, in fact, the disciple John was the author, which is impossible to prove, he would've been at best 90 years old or maybe even older. The questions who, how many people, where, and when was it written remains a mystery. Its contents strays from the other three and forges a deification of Jesus along the way.
@2timothy211 Christians ALWAYS lie. They claim something which is NOT true. I have seen so many debated between Muslims and Christians and the Muslims crushed their opponents with their own bible verses lol. I have to give you thumb down cause you are LYING! Stupid Christians always lie to defend their fake religion. :(
@onder1188 Look in a mirror,buddy.Muslims lie,because they are of their father,the devil.He is the father of lies.You cannot help it,because a child will resemble their father.So you resemble him.
@1timothy21 Yea yea, it's always same story that Muslims lies and are not peaceful. How many of that I heard by Christians. They always end up losing the debate and starting cursing at me cause they can't accept they were wrong. Been there done that really. How can Islam from the devil when it is thought to love and obey one true god, when it is said that devil is an open enemy for us. That we should be good toward mankind etc. How can this be from the devil ROFL.
@onder1188 It is not just christians that see you guys are violent,and that your book is violent.Hindu's fight you.Atheists laugh at you.You are at war with all of North America and NATO.You are fighting troops in China.Russia,and all over the globe.You guys can't get along with anybody,can you?
"The trinity is the doctrine that there is One God and that He consists of 3 distinct persons but there is not 3 gods there is One" Bro what kind of language are you speaking?
1 + 1 + 1 = 3 lol. Open your eyes christians. I could go on about the jews too but there's not enough room haha.
DBZGTRB 3 days ago
@DBZGTRB next people will say 3=5. 9=2. 3=2 so on and so on
555season 3 days ago
OT: "And God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness..." (Genesis 1:26)
"The Spirit of God has made me, the breath of the Almighty has given me life." (Job 33:4)
"The LORD said unto my Lord, 'Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.' " (Psalm 110:1)
Shadow392412 6 days ago
The problem with a Monad (single, solo, alone) god, is that if this god 'loves', who is the object of His love? A monad god must necessarily create creatures in order to express love. By definition, this god is deficient and incomplete. Additionally, being entirely alone, who would he speak to? Would he even be able to say, 'let there be light'? Have you spent all day alone in your house? With no one around, you don't say much; no reason to. In Trinity, there is love *before* creation.
quakerman7 1 week ago
It boggles the mind why Christians keeps on saying after so long that Jesus died or rather crucified to atone for our sins. There is nowhere in the bible where it says that Jesus volunteered to be crucified to pay for the sins of the world. HE WAS CRUCIFIED BY THE JEWS FOR BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE JEWISH RELIGION meaning he sinned.
acson005 1 week ago
@acson005 John 10:18. In addition, Jesus taught several times that he would have to be sacrificed for the sins of the people. The first time he taught this, he had to rebuke Peter for saying, 'not so Lord'. Peter could not accept that the Messiah would have to die; to him, it meant the destruction of everything Israel hoped for. Jesus consistently put the pressure of people away saying, 'my time is not yet'. I could go on, but, space limitations.
quakerman7 1 week ago
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Clear evidence from his brethren that he was not God. before Abraham I am, but he was not before his mother...
julio14335 1 week ago
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julio14335 1 week ago
Jesus said become as little children to understand God. You think the trinity (3 gods in 1, co-equal,co-eternal &co-knowing) is best reflected as a "father/son",or would a child better understand them as brothers,identical twins, triplets or even kids today understand clones? Whereas Father=older. John4:1-10 Jesus was tempted with evil trials 3 times, but James1:13 says God cant be tempted or tried. So it makes since Jesus himself said he had the same God as his disciples, the Father! John 20:17
shawso7 2 weeks ago
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MrDjmeves 2 weeks ago
@MrDjmeves Yes you are right - you are biased.
FunnyLittleChap 2 weeks ago
ah! this man is honest !!
sususoos 3 weeks ago
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. The Holy Spirit is poured out on the people when we repent and believe in Christ! It is sad how people are trying following keeping the law when they have broke it & hoping to get saved by their deeds. When the Bible says very clearly Salvation is the work of God. Salvation is from God.
TheElectricpablo 3 weeks ago
Please speak English - does 3 different persons equal 1 person? Jesus never claimed to be god or asked people to worship him, there is not a single unambiguous statement in the whole bible where he claims divinity or asks people to worship him. You Christians will never accept something that is slapping you in the face. How can you ever have faith in a corrupted text which has so many contradictions.
aceadnan 4 weeks ago
@aceadnan Jesus does claim to be God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
Jesus says he is I AM. That phrase was first mentioned to Moses at the burning bush.
Also if you read Luke 20:42-44 you will see that Jesus quotes David from the Old testament where he wrote in Psalms 110:1 which states that the LORD talks to the Lord which is Jesus. And in Genesis one, God says let us make man...... Evidence of a plural God is all over the Bible.
freshtildeathonline 2 weeks ago
@freshtildeathonline ,"God says let us make man...... Evidence of a plural God is all over the Bible."
Hahaha
Read the First commandment. Did the Creator say we or me?
IamaZionistGoy 1 week ago
@IamaZionistGoy God identifies Himself by saying me or I, because the Godhead functions as one. God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit existing as one. So no matter who speaks, it's still God speaking. Again like I said, it's all over scripture.
freshtildeathonline 1 week ago
@freshtildeathonline If you were working on the sheep farm and I say to you to bring in the sheep. Would you bring one or the lot? Does sheeps exist?
If I say to you catch the fish from the pond would you catch one or wait till you caught all of them? fishes exist?
Exodus 20:2-3, Numbers 23:19, Deuteronomy 4:35, Deuteronomy 4:39, Deuteronomy 32:39, I Samuel 2:2, I Samuel 15:29,I Kings 8:60, II Kings 19:19, Isaiah 40:18, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 42:8. No jman found in the Tanakh.
IamaZionistGoy 1 week ago
The mighty Tovia Singer. Possbl. the world's best Anti-Missionary - at his best!
Christian stay with their Idolatry, worshipping a jewish man as godhead, just because the NT and the medieval catholic church tells them so! Hari Kishna - brother Jesus!
trillyondad 1 month ago
John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
JesusisLord685 1 month ago
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JesusisLord685 1 month ago
Why would Jesus pray if he was God?
orixaguy 1 month ago
@lakzev The messenger he's talking about it Eliyahu the prophet and most certainly not Jesus or Muhammad.
FCMaccabiHaifa 2 months ago
Nobody listens to this guy any more, do they.
MrBiblecontradiction 2 months ago
This is ridiculous - God three in one and one in three? God dies on Cross, meaning God is dead, so what happened to the world when he was dead?
New Testament? So now you editing, emitting and adding to the Holy book with your own hands and call it Divine, Holy? Your lies may work in this world, fear the day when you will stand in front of God alone on the day of Judgement and you will be questioned for misguiding humans with you handwriting
befair4all 2 months ago
GOD=ELOHIM............Elohim means ' a plurity in One unit'....."Hear O Isreal the YHWH your GOD (elohim) is ONE
danielefsot 2 months ago
If you actually studu the scriptures you can clearly see thay there is no trinity. Jesus states thay he is weaker than God and he constantly said worship the Father. Jesus never intended for himself to be worshipped but for the Father(God) to be worshipped. Also in the hebrew scriptures it never states anywhere that God is a triad or that the Messiah is God but that God is one. That the Father is God and that Jesus is not God. And the Holy Spirit is Gods Helper not God.
xKnightTemplarx 2 months ago
I ADMIRE TOVIA, iSnt Quran says that same Thing. WHAT DOES THE ABRAHAM SAYS AOUT GOD... THAT God is One and Abraham Himself was the Friend of God. Then why he never said anything about Trinity.
flexpape 2 months ago
ewhhhh everyone know HoLy spirit was Angel Gabriel...
flexpape 2 months ago
the trinty is non-sense
JXTVE 2 months ago
I love Tovia's voice.
ManOnFia 3 months ago
@lakzev's quoting of Malachi 3:1, Jeremiah 31:31, Matthew 26:28, and Isaiah 28:11-29 are refuted in Deuteronomy 13:5 & 21:22-23 that Jesus is a false prophet and accursed by God via the Crucifixion. Jesus says in Matthew 7:1-2 "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." AND Jesus teaches that all children are born sinless in Matthew 19:14 to refute the Original Sin. Jesus is a prophet.
MultiNoNonsense 3 months ago
I used to have respoect for Dr Craig prior to this
How someone can believe in the trnity is beyond me - maybe I should look into atheism lol
vicachcoup 3 months ago
@vicachcoup look into Islam. Study the Qur'an not from a anti Islam website. I was an atheist myself so I'm only offering you something better. No insults please I've heard all the negatives on Islam and investigated them myself, in the end the negative propaganda doesn't hold up against the truth. Peace.
theproudONE92 3 months ago
@theproudONE92 mate i am making a video over islam women and west women. Hope u will find it very interesting.
flexpape 2 months ago
@flexpape cool send it to me when u make it inshallah
theproudONE92 2 months ago
@vicachcoup Dr Craig is respect worthy that he fights with atheists.... Tho he is from people of Book so i as a Muslim respect him But Trinity is false their exists only One God and all must glorify him xD
flexpape 2 months ago
Micah 6 "For the lord has a COMPLAINT against his people, and he will contend with ISRAEL....TESTIFY AGAINST ME......with what shall I come before the Lord and bow myself before the high God, shall I come before him with Burnt offerings, with calves a year Old....shall I GIVE MY FIRST BORN FOR MY TRANSGRESSIO, THE FRUIT OF MY BODY FOR THE SIN OF MY SOUL. HE has shown you O Man what is good, and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love Mercy and to walk Humbly with your God."
lakzev 4 months ago
Psalm 65: 1-5 “Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Zion: and unto thee shall the VOW be performed. O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come. Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away. Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy HOLY TEMPLE."
lakzev 4 months ago
Note in Psalm 2 “"Take COUNSEL against the Lord and against his Anointed (Messiah-which means Anointed One).... Yet I have Set MY KING on MY Holy Hill of ZION."
THE WORD “COUNSEL”
IS ACTUALLY REFERING TO “before the Sanhedrin”
Mark 15:53-63 "Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus..... “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” They all condemned him as worthy of death."
lakzev 4 months ago
ALL VERSES BELOW ARE FROM THE JEWISH TORAH
JEWISH TORAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR OLD TESTAMENT IN CHRISTIAN BIBLE
lakzev 4 months ago
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The ROD Metaphor ???
Psalm 2 "You shall break them with a ROD OF IRON."
Micah 6 "The Lord's voice cries to the city, WISDOM shall see your Name. HEAR THE ROD who has Appointed it..."
Psalm 110 "The Lord says to MY Lord, "Sit at my Right Hand, till I make your Enemies your footstool. The Lord shall send the ROD OF YOUR STRENGTH OUT OF ZION. Rule in the midst of your enemies."
Isaiah 28: 5-7 "In that day Lord Almighty will be a......Spirit of Justice to HIM WHO SITS IN JUDGEMENT."
lakzev 4 months ago
Psalm 65:4 "Blessed is the MAN whom thou choosest and causest to approach unto thee that he may dwell in thy courts we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house even of thy Holy TEMPLE."
NOTE: "is the man whom thou choosest" in HEBREW IS "bachar" (baw-khar').
Psalm 65:1 "Praise awaits you, O God, IN ZION; to you our VOWS will be fulfilled."
FROM COMMENT BELOW IN PSALM 24;
I HAVE PROVEN THAT THIS "KING" ON "ZION" IS GOD......WHAT IT SAYS!!!!!
THIS IS A MESSIANIC PHROPHECY
lakzev 4 months ago
Pslam 2 "Take Counsel against the Lord and against his Annointed (Messiah-which means Annointed One)....Yet I have Set MY King on MY Holy hill of Zion."
For definition of this "KING", turn to Psalm 24
Psalm 24 "And the King of Glory shall come in. Who is this King of Glory? The Lord of Hosts, HE is the King of Glory."
Psalm 53:6 "Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion! When God restores the fortunes of his people, let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!"
lakzev 4 months ago
@Biblefeast The word one is the same as saying two become one flesh in Genesis 2:24. Yeshua is as real to us as the cloud and fire that Israel followed in the desert, and furthermore, Gen 18:22 makes it clear that Abraham stood and spoke with The Lord, specifically YHWH. If three MEN were there in verse 2, and 2 MEN went on to Sodom in ch 19:1, then obviously God was the other man. Come on fellow Jews, this is not difficult to understand. One Father YHWH, dwelling with us in different ways.
biblefeast 4 months ago
No mysteries, God is one and he is spirit like the bible teaches.
And Jesus "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."
Colossians 1:15
ggonjon 4 months ago
I am a Christian and I question the trinity, the virgin birth, the doctrine of hell, salvation for only those who confess Jesus, everything that started in Rome has to come into question. Follow the Way, not man made traditions. The 2 greatest commandants, Love your God (one God) with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself.
oldno74 4 months ago in playlist Rabbi Tovia Singer exposed the false belief of Trinity
I tell you truly, He who is the Father is the son and they that are Father and son are Holy Spirit and one God. If you have seen the Son you have seen the Father and spirit for they are one and the same. A little child plays this out as they play with bubbles, one thin film becomes many bubbles and if you catch a bubble and blow at it again it creates more bubbles. If this were not so then one film should create one bubble. Have Love Compassion and Forgiveness toward each other!
Idotgotit 5 months ago
wtf? every single time someone idiot Christian tries to explain the Trinity, he/she stumbles and makes no sense,,,,,it's like saying the "Triangle/Rectangle doctrine",,,,,,,the Triangle had three corners, but it needed an extra corner in order to become the Rectangle so it became 3 dimensional and there we can see that the 3d Triangle has 4 corners now, and 4 corners can make up a Rectangle in 2 dimensional realm,,,,,,,,,WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BULLSHIT IN THIS WORLD?
retro99ify 5 months ago
"What is his name and what the name of his son, in case you know?" - Prov 30:4
illwillcpt83 5 months ago
@illwillcpt83
Jesus is the name given to know for salvation to those who believe as it's written in the bible. It's the new name promised to his people in the old testament.
ggonjon 4 months ago
There just confused, because the jewish cat doesnt accept the new testament and the pastor doesnt understand scriptures such as John 1:18; Deut 6:4... John 14:28 ... 1 Cor 8:5,6 .... etc... not only that the Nicean creed 325 AD and constatine....
illwillcpt83 5 months ago
I like this program. Cool. Civilized debates. Specific subjects. I think Judaism won the debate in this one. Trinity got no defence at all. Here the Jewish the Muslim view of God are the same. Only One God
TheSaffyone 5 months ago
William Lane Craig can say that with a straight face. He's shameless
1empathy 5 months ago
There is one god. I believe he has many roles or forms, not just three.
ChildofYeshua777 6 months ago
Best way to explain it is you are a FATHER to your kids, a SON to you parents and have a SPIRIT inside your body so guess what you are still just 1 PERSON...DO U GET IT...GOD BLESS YOU ....JESUS SAVES...
bluecrew3 6 months ago
@bluecrew3
FATHER to your kids, a SON to you parents!!!
Who's the parents???
You mean, FATHER to yourself and SON to yourself...
ehhh.. excuse me????????
sfyr 6 months ago
To sum it up. Its like this. Water Steam and Ice. All different forms but the same thing.
RelationshipWitJesus 6 months ago
Christions believe in a monoistic God.Father, Spirit, Jesus are One.The trinity was never seperated not even in Christ death. Christ always One in Spirit with Father, Holy Spirit was never seperated God must be One to be God in trinty.Therefore Christ died in flesh but in Spirit was always in union. God never died on the cross. Though Jesus is God He gave up the body prepared for Him in death to redeem not God dying.The tri unity had no seperation when the patriarchs related. God is One
polopowers1 6 months ago
this makes no sense to me
MoZaIc89 7 months ago
I am one of many many CHRISTIANS who does NOT believe in the trinity. Man, the more I hear a sincere trinitarian give the definition of the trinity so seriously, the more satanic it sounds to me.
1Shawndra 7 months ago
@1Shawndra How do you interpret scripture (more particularly the New Testament) WITHOUT the doctrine of the Trinity? Just Curious.
double91trouble 7 months ago
@double91trouble I simply believe what the Bible teaches. I believe what Jesus taught and said about himself and his Father :). Very simple really :)
1Shawndra 5 months ago
@1Shawndra
So... What do you believe then?
Keruaran 5 months ago
@Keruaran LOL, you ask that question as if there's no other way to be Christian and as if you don't know of any other way to believe lol. I believe that Jesus was who he said he was, God's SON :). I believe what Jesus taught (which was NOT the trinity). I believe that God is Jesus' dad :) I believe that God is Holy and that God is a Spirit, but that doesn't make the HOLY SPIRIT (God) into a SEPERATE God that is a part of some wacked out triune puzzle.
1Shawndra 5 months ago
@1Shawndra
You make no mention of scripture that asserts the divinity of Christ at all. You say you believe what Jesus taught yet the experience of the Apostles with Jesus in the gospels is trinitarian in nature long before any theologian thought of a term to describe this. Lastly, you are not clear on who and what you believe the Holy Spirit is while at the same time you make the category error of defining the Holy Spirit in the trinity as a separate god. That is not what the trinity is.
Keruaran 5 months ago
@1Shawndra
I don't know why my question is "LOL" to you, or why you run with so many presumptions. But it seems to me that you are not being very forthcoming about what you yourself actually believe, which was the question I asked after all.
Keruaran 5 months ago
Like arguing how many angels can dance on a pinhead
mutbutyt 7 months ago
This guy's wicked Jewish!
jaguar662 7 months ago
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boulbahaiem 7 months ago
Trinity is silly, is Jesus then his own father? Or is he his own son? That doesnt make sense, and if you say: the father and son are distinct you believe in polytheism
kadafi150 7 months ago 2
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"is Jesus then his own father? Or is he his own son? That doesnt make sense"
No and no. Of course it doesn't make sense. But what you criticize here is a modalistic idea of a unitarian God, not the Trinity.
"if you say: the father and son are distinct you believe in polytheism"
If you say they are distinct beings you do, but that is tri-theism and not the Trinity.
In summary you criticised a modalistic and unitarian God, then a triad, but didn't actually address the Trinity.
Keruaran 5 months ago
@Keruaran trinity=tri-theism
kadafi150 3 months ago
@kadafi150
The Trinity is not, nor has it ever been tri-theism.
Keruaran 3 months ago
There is one God, he gave his Son & he promises his Holy Spirit to all who believe the gospel. The man Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Yet, he is equal with God by His divine nature because He is the Word of God. By his divine nature he is eternal yet in his humanity he has a beginning. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, who sent his Son, the Christ, to be our Savior. Scripture bears witness to the deity of Christ but the message of the gospel is that he is the Christ the Son of God.
Heb101922 7 months ago
The Rabbi totally devestated and destroyed these two Christian schmucks!
Wonderful Rabbi!
saulboyjt 7 months ago 2
QUIRKY JEWISH GUY LAUGHING AT THE ABSURDITY THAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN JESUS. NOTICE LEE & LANE DID NOT LAUGH AT HIS JUDIASM HOWEVER.
severnkenpo 8 months ago
Numbers 23 States that "God is not a man that he should lie." God is making a distinction between his divinity and mans humanity claiming that as divinity he does not act/reason as humans do. The other fact is that in Genes is The Torah, God said "Let us make man in our image", my question is who is "us"? and when man sinned God stated he has become like one of "us" Moses asked God's name Exodus 3:14 God said "I AM" In John 8:48 Jesus says "before Abraham was born I AM!"
hoops056 8 months ago
The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God—but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential.
momothelemur 8 months ago
i believe oness of God and i am a christian.. Look at it this way i am a father, i am a son, i am a youtuber but what is my name Jared same with God he is one God and his name is Jesus which means Jehovah savior
rjared 8 months ago
@mattetho im honestly trying to understand it. Why cant Jesus not be a man, but not be God? There is someting in the middle in that he was a prophet. Is that not an option?
adahbache 8 months ago
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A simple explanation to what the Trinity is!!!
The Father - the creator, the one who "decide" and give "orders".
Son - in addition to savior the person doing the Father's decision. An administrator,
Spirit - the performing, the very power and energy...
tzetzakiz 8 months ago
its funny as a Muslim - everything the rabbi said was spot on. It is so sad that the monothiestic faiths cannot get on.
Like Christians comon... how confusing is the trinity? im getting confused listening to his explanation... lol
adahbache 8 months ago
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טז חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם.
فمه هو الأكثر الحلو؛ نعم، تماما انه هو محمد. هذا هو بلدي الحبيب، وهذا هو صديقي يا بنات أورشليم '.
[16] His words are the most loved: yea, he is most definantly Muhammad [מַחֲמַדִּים]
. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. soung of soungs
hallalmart 9 months ago
rabbi tovia singer hates christians and he especially hates Jesus and blames him for the death of jews in the past.
glower125 9 months ago
TRINITY CONFUSING
wow how can one live with such
ABRARALIBUTT 9 months ago
Singer's book is AWSOME! I want to have him sign it so badly.
KingOystar 9 months ago
damn i dont mean to be out of point here...but where's the rabbi's neck? lol
silverchair28 9 months ago
What is the point of this? Each person believes that his book is right. End of discussion.
waseatenbyagrue 9 months ago
rabbi has the most annoying voice ever.
derZyklusII 9 months ago
The bible is very clear. All the mess comes by adding the philosophy of Trinity when you say that God is three persons. God is manifested in three ways, yet He is Spirit, and He is one, no three persons. This is what the bible says and there is no confusion on it.
ggonjon 9 months ago
@ggonjon
That is modalism and not what the Bible teaches.
Keruaran 5 months ago
@Keruaran
Modalism, shows that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit never all exist at the same time, only one after another. I don't see that. This is as confusing as Trinity to me. I do not follow any theological doctrine out of the bible. I believe in the bible alone.
God is eternal. To say that God' manifestations existed at certain points is awkward. Jesus was under the power of The Holy Spirit. You can see that the bible says that he was full of the Holy Spirit more than once
ggonjon 5 months ago
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The Christian got OWNED.
WhiteSky14 9 months ago 14
@WhiteSky14
Uhmm... how?
Keruaran 5 months ago
@WhiteSky14 Shema Yisrael YHVH elohienu, YHVH echad!!!!! Say no to paganism!!!!
ChildofYeshua777 5 months ago
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@WhiteSky14 One is the same as saying two become one flesh in Genesis 2:24. Yeshua is as real to us as the cloud and fire that Israel followed in the desert, and furthermore, Gen 18:22 makes it clear that Abraham stood and spoke with The Lord, specifically YHWH. If three MEN were there in verse 2, and 2 MEN went on to Sodom in ch 19:1, then obviously God was the other man. Come on fellow Jews, this is not difficult to understand. One Father YHWH, dwelling with us in different ways.
biblefeast 4 months ago
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JESUS IS THE ONE WE PRAISE! jESUS IS THE ONE WE ADORE! JESUS IS THE REASON WE LIVE AND WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING! Jesus is the King of kings! HE is the Lord of lords! He is the Mighty Counselor,Everlasting Father,the Prince of Peace! HE is the ALMIGHTY! He is the Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the end! HE is the Son of God and the Savior of the world! Jesus is the name above all names! JESUS is the soon coming Judge of all! HE is our God and HE is our salvation! There is nobody like Him
psalm964 10 months ago
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@Acts5171819 So, non-Christians do not, or cannot ever have access to the context of the Bible without becoming offspring of the One of whom none was born to nor was He born from anything? How will a non-Christian ever be able to critically analyze the Bible and choose to become a Christian with this type of monopoly in affect? Sorry, another big time fail. Your argument is no different then the rest. I'm not a child of God and I am not chilling with the ghost, therefore the truth is off limits?
tadpoleposition 10 months ago 6
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People in the first century—like many today—worshiped “those who are called ‘gods,’ whether in heaven or on earth.” Paul, in fact, said: “There are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’.” However, he also explained: “There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.
Lad24LFC 10 months ago
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People in the first century—like many today—worshiped “those who are called ‘gods,’ whether in heaven or on earth.” Paul, in fact, said: “There are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’.” However, he also explained: “There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.
Lad24LFC 10 months ago
As Adam was just a human being, was it right that the ALMIGHTY come down and offer himself up. NO of course not, that is ridiculous and not what was lost in eden, this why Jesus is not God.
Jesus had origin, Micah 5:2, Prov 8:22, referred to as the firstborn of CREATION Col 1:15, He was Begotten Jn 1:18.
Jesus has less knowledge than God, Matt 24:36.
Jesus does not do his OWN will, but Gods, Luke 22:42, John 5:30.
Jesus teaching does not originate from himself but from God John 7:16
Lad24LFC 10 months ago
@Lad24LFC Trinitarians are only beliving in the Trinity based on the Athanasian Creed.
thelazarusdimension 9 months ago
esus is subordinate to God and Hands over Kingdom to him, 1Cor 15:24-28
Jesus sits at the right hand of God, Hebrews 10:12
Jesus receives Revelation FROM God (Knowledge he didn't have before) Rev 1:1
God is the head of Christ 1 Cor 11:3
Jesus was exalted by God, Php 2:9.
Jesus had a God John 20:17
Jesus said "The Father is Greater than i am " John 14:28
So, there you see, Jesus is NOT God. I ask kindly that interested persons check the quotes. The Trinity is simply not a bible teaching.
Lad24LFC 10 months ago
I will worship You for who You are-Jesus!
psalm964 10 months ago
If ANYONE preaches to us a gospel other than the one taught by the apostles,he is accursed by God-even if that someone is an angel(Galatians 1:6-10)......
galatians5161718 10 months ago
Psalm 1 The way of the righteous and the wicked
Listen to wisdom,saints of God! Listen to God's word!
psalm964 10 months ago
How was Abraham saved? Singer claims that according to Christians he could not be saved because he did not know of nor believe in Jesus as God's Son and Savior. That is simply a red Herring. Abraham was saved by grace through *faith* in God's mercy. That is how anyone through all time is saved. That is how Adam was saved. That is how Noah was saved.
As the narrative of God's revelation proceeded it became clear that God's mercy was particularly revealed in the person of God's Messiah.
campdon 10 months ago
@campdon Jesus fully fit all the OT descriptions of Messiah. He also completed the OT types of the Passover lamb and the sacrifices of the Torah. That means God's mercy is fully revealed in the Messiah and appropriated by faith - just as Abraham appropriated God's mercy by faith.
Singer is doing what the Pharisees did. They preferred their traditions over God's revelation. They killed the prophets, and they killed Jesus. Singer may not go that far, but he is a son of the Pharisees.
campdon 10 months ago
BTW re: Messiah as God. Does not Isaiah 9:6, 7 say that the one who would sit upon David's throne (Messiah) is a child, a son, Mighty God (gibbowr EL)?
Is the trinity a creation of the Catholic Church? Hardly. It is woven throughout the Bible and clear in the NT - hundreds of years before any council of churches.
campdon 10 months ago
BTW re: Singer's issue about "God is not a man": Complete the quote please. "God is not a man that he should lie." The point is that God is not like men. He is not in nature like men. (It would be completely foreign to the OT to think otherwise. )
But the NT does not say that God is a man. It says that the "Word became flesh" (John 1:14) The Divine took on the form of man (Phil. 2:7). Did not God in the OT take on the form a man? (Gen. 32:24-30)
campdon 10 months ago
trinity is a lie made up hellenized half roman/half jewish paul, it cannot be found in OT nor did Jesus ever utter such word in his mouth.
Walhamdulilah101 10 months ago
I do not believe that the plurality of God is at all in conflict with the unity of God. Nor do I believe the idea of the trinity is absent in the OT. My goodness, is not the Spirit of God clearly seen as active in the OT? Is not the word for God, Elohim, itself plural. And is not the angel of the Lord, so often seen in the OT, an indication that God known in more than one one way or form?
campdon 10 months ago
"Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips." (Exodus 23:13)
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
For the rest of you, you failed big time Biblically and politically you guys are quite maddening. You have been commanded to worship God alone without ascribing partners. The trinity is a partnership involving God and two other beings. Leave the false worship and maintain purity of worship for God alone. Jesus prayed many times in the Bible. Who was he praying to, himself? Of course not. He was praying to and worshipping God. Why don't Christians, who claim to follow Jesus, do the same?
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@malachithemessenger ROFL! Listen dude! My grandparents live about 5 minutes from Tel Aviv and my mother was raised in Israel. Oh yeah, and Jesus is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. ROFL! You are freaking funny! Would you mind referencing a verse the Jesus said that? Hebrew or English, it doesn't matter. ROFL!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom ""Satan,get behind me,"I believe were the words Jesus used."
You didn't quote Jesus. There is no chain of transmission between Jesus and any book in the Bible. Actually, it's impossible for you to quote Jesus directly. At best, you have second hand narrations. All those quotes from John's Gospel are not direct. That basically nullifies your belief.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof Paul flip-flopped on the issue of circumcision and his views of the Law because he knew how the Jews had subjugated the people with the Law, hence the abolishment of not only circumcision, but the law as a whole. The people were not willing to accept the same subjugation as was known at the time. Jesus clearly upheld the Law and maintained its tenants and admonished the Jews for subjugating the people.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof One of the clearest proofs that Paul didn't know what he was talking about was his letter to Galatia. Paul states in Galatians 3:21, "If a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would be based on the law." This statement is in direct contrast to Jesus' saying in Matthew 19:17, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments," and God's saying in Proverbs 7:2, "Keep my commands and live."
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof In the first chapter of Galatians, Paul accuses the Galatians of being religious turncoats, a similar use of the word translated, "turning...away" or "deserting". Paul used guile to maintain a monopoly on the religious bodies in the area. Admonishing the Galatians to adhere to his and only his Gospel. God forbid anyone recognize a Gospel being taught by, say, a chosen disciple of Jesus. Someone who walked, talked, and prayed with Jesus. Was Paul not aware of the four main Gospels?
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
I find it very interesting,this sight and others like it.Islam has launched an all-out assault on christianity.And why not?They attack Israel-the natural branch.So,they will attack the body of Christ-the adopted branch.Shalom to all my broters and sisters in the common faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.Fear not,for what you see is a sign of the end.It must be so,but God is not moved.God is still faithful til the end.
hebrews1234 10 months ago
@hebrews1234 "I find it very interesting,this sight and others like it.Islam has launched an all-out assault on christianity..."
You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world? Exactly how many Churches have been newly built in Iraq since the beginning of the war and how many containers of Arabic and Persian translations of religious pamphlets have been sent? Jesus would be ashamed of your slimy tactics.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
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@tadpoleposition lol-You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world?'----No,we refer to the charities and such that are fronts for your Jihadi warriors,as they attempt to spread Islam by the sword.Whose slimy now?
genesisevent2 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition lol-You're not referring to the food banks and health clinics that serve as fronts for Missionary work in desolate regions in the Muslim world?'----No,we refer to the charities and such that are fronts for your Jihadi warriors,as they attempt to spread Islam by the sword.Whose slimy now?
Or maybe we should look at the slimy tactics of guys like Yassir Arafat,Osama Bin Laden and 'whatever that guys name is in Iran.'Nice-you guys can't tell the truth to save your life can youz?
genesisevent2 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition The bottom line is this,dude.You are children of Ishmael,which means you are outside of the loop from the start.You are not even children of the covenant.The jealousy of the devil is aroused.
genesisevent2 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition Don't be jealous just because you are an outsider to the promises of God......
genesisevent2 10 months ago
BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST-Be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might(Ephesians 6:10)! Put on the whole armor of God,to stand against the schemes of the devil(Ephesians 6:11)! Satan used God's word against Eve(Genesis 3),so know that he will try to use it against you as well! Press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus(Philippians 3:14)! Great is our reward in heaven,when we obey His word,and are faithful even unto death.
2corinthians10456 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom Warrior said "Obviously,Paul had learned some things between those times,regarding the gospel of Jesus Christ." regarding my claim of Paul's flip-flopping on the issue of circumcision. The dialogue ended with 2timothy211 stating, "The enemy may win some battles,..."
In other words, Warrior had no clear explanation for Paul's flip-flopping and Timothy came in to console Warrior. That is but one of the many things Christians cannot provide clarity.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom "the bible says Satan is the accuser of the brethren,"
Need I remind you that Paul was the one accusing his brethren of Galatia?
"Foolishness is on your lips,"
So, encouraging you to leave the false worship of a partnership and single out God and maintain purity of worship for God alone is foolishness? I guess I am guilty.
You comments don't even add up Biblically, nevermind make sense. Then you go and blind-follow Warrior without him ever sourcing his explanation.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
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@proverbs2wisdom "the bible says Satan is the accuser of the brethren,and does so before God day and night."
Umm, wasn't Paul the one accusing the Galatians of doing wrong in those verses?
"...nothing BUT foolishness has come from your mouth ever since this conversation has begun."
Yeah, the jigsaw puzzle reply wasn't at all foolish.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom 1 Cor. 12:16, I did not burden you, but being crafty I took you by guile. Psalms 32:2, Blessed is the man to whom the LORD imputes not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. Islam means submission to the One True God. Jesus was a Muslim by definition. When he prayed, "nevertheless, not my will, but your will be done," he was in full submission to God Almighty. Why can't you see that? Jesus fell on his face and prayed as do Muslims. Muslims follow Jesus in truth.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom "The puzzle is before your eyes,and your are not getting it."
Puzzle? You are steeped in darkness and coming with some wacko machinations about Iran and Russia being in cahoots with one another and tying it to some verse in Isaiah you have no idea what the true interpretation is. Islam is the truth. When Jesus returns, he will be with the Muslims. The Christians and Jews have both rejected the true message of the Prophets. Your obsession with Israel is maddening. Peace!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom "And yet you are an enemy of Israel,whom the bible testifies to that they are God's nation."
Matthew 21:43, "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Umm, you contradicted Jesus. Politically and Biblically you are lost. Are you so obsessed with your machinations that you never once considered I might be telling you the truth? Be objective. I'm giving you the same message Jesus gave his people.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof "The scriptures you qouted are meaningless to your argument.The proof is before your eyes-you just refuse to see it."
The verses I quoted work against your deification of Jesus. You deem them meaningless because of that. You have not provided any proof. The next thing you'll do is claim you're chilling with the Holy Ghost and I am not and you're a child of God and I am not. When all else fails, when even the Bible works against you, you resort to that flimsy argument. Peace!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom John 20:17, "I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." The 6 Day War and Yom Kippur don't help your not so Biblical rant. Jesus clearly worshipped his God and clearly had a God. Deifying Jesus is not Biblical. When it comes to the Bible, the Christian creed fails. When it comes to politics, you stink like a skunk. I've told you clearly to single out God in worship. You choose to follow the footsteps of Satan and worship others along with God. Peace!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom Luke 5:16, But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed. Mark 1:35, Very early in the morning...Jesus...went off to a solitary place, where he prayed. Luke 6:12, One of those days Jesus...spent the night praying to God. Luke 22:41, He...knelt down and prayed. Mark 12:29, The Lord OUR God is one Lord. Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knows no man...neither the Son... Jon 14:28, The Father is greater than I. Luke 18:19, Jesus said, Why callest thou me good?
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom Jesus worshipped his God, Muslims worship the God of Jesus, and Christians worship Jesus. Who looks like they're following Satan?
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
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@johnthebookof "The scriptures you qouted are meaningless to your argument.The proof is before your eyes-you just refuse to see it." I know you hate being Biblically schooled by a Muslim, but I am a former Christian who knows about the secrets that Divinity Schools don't teach the masses.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
There is only one truth-the gospel of Jesus Christ! Romans 1:16,17
romans4cross 10 months ago
The wickedness of Islam exposed----
2peter11617 10 months ago
Also....2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
2peter11617 10 months ago
@2peter11617 Luke 19:27, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me." Should I do what you did and take the verse as is without mentioning the context and then say something like "The wickedness of Christianity exposed"? Get real.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition Luke 19:27 was a parable-do you get it?A story by Jesus to explain spiritual things.You cannot compare that to the atrocities of Islam.
2peter11617 10 months ago
@2peter11617 My point was, should I go ahead and single out one verse from the Bible and intentionally not mention the context? It's quite devilish. That whole "kill them wherever you find them" argument is quite kindergartenish. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13, "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." Peace!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@2peter11617 Coupling that verse with historical events, i.e., the Spanish Inquisition, or current events, the invasion and mass slaughtering in Iraq or Afghanistan or both, take your pick, and guess what you have? The exact same thing you accuse Muslims of, i.e., attrocities based on the teachings of their "Holy" Book. Grow up!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
What is Islam all about?Read their quran for yourself: 2:244 Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.
2peter11617 10 months ago
@johnthebookof "The Divinity and Diety of Jesus Christ is something the apostles taught the early church,because it was what Jesus taught to them."
Prove it. Is it when Jesus said, "Why do you call me good, there's only one that is good that is God" or "None knows the hour...not the SON..." or "The Father is greater than I" or the fact that Jesus was tempted by Satan. That's not a divine being. John 10:30 in context is in Chapter 17 of John. This whole Jesus said, "I am" is all you have.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@Acts5171819 "I read some of the comments between them,and tadpole couldn't even get scripture right."
The only thing Warrior had left was to say stuff like "I'm a child of god, you're not" and "I'm chilling with the Holy Spirit, you're not". That proves nothing. I explained to him thoroughly what the context of John 10:30 as EXPLAINED BY THE AUTHOR OF JOHN HIMSELF. He decided to self-interpret some machinations that strayed from the context.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom Antagonism is an attribute of Satan. Good try being Christ-like. Anyone, except you, who looks over our dialogue can easily see Warrior stood on, at best, shaky ground. Your antagonism does prove one thing, you or Warrior can't prove a thing. That whole 100% god 100% man crap, then god is killed by his creation to save man from his sins as if God doesn't possess mercy and forgiveness to simply forgive us without killing himself. It's an absolute joke.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof So, we can conclude that Jesus is less than the greatest, yet part of a partnership that makes him equal with the Greatest? He's less than and equal to the greatest at the same time? You people make Jesus look like a fool, which he's not. He spoke in clear, unequivocal terms, not these mysterious, undecodable terms. God is One. The trinity is a partnership that includes God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. God has no partners. He alone is worthy of worship.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@proverbs2wisdom When's the last time you took a dump? You're full of crap! Warrior contradicted himself many times over and another commenter, Christian, even conceded to that fact. When it comes to the concept of God, Islam's is second to none.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof Luke 5:16, But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed. Mark 1:35, Very early in the morning...Jesus...went off to a solitary place, where he prayed. Luke 6:12, One of those days Jesus...spent the night praying to God. Luke 22:41, He...knelt down and prayed.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof What do you do with those verses that disprove Jesus' alleged divinity? You know, "The Father is greater than I", "No man knows the hour...not the son...", "There is one that is good,that is God", "The Lord our God is One", "He fell on his face and prayed" and so on.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@johnthebookof Please! The Book of John is the latest known Gospel, written some some 60 years after Jesus ascended. Imagine the plethora of stories that circulated regarding Jesus' life. If, in fact, the disciple John was the author, which is impossible to prove, he would've been at best 90 years old or maybe even older. The questions who, how many people, where, and when was it written remains a mystery. Its contents strays from the other three and forges a deification of Jesus along the way.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
When will the world see that we need Jesus?
psalm964 10 months ago
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"I and my father are one and the same".worship in truth.
gibsongold1970 10 months ago
Muslim would both crash Jew+Christian at same time.
onder1188 11 months ago
@onder1188 Really?They have tried before and failed.So,whats the problem?Maybe your god is sleeping?
2timothy211 11 months ago
@2timothy211 Christians ALWAYS lie. They claim something which is NOT true. I have seen so many debated between Muslims and Christians and the Muslims crushed their opponents with their own bible verses lol. I have to give you thumb down cause you are LYING! Stupid Christians always lie to defend their fake religion. :(
onder1188 11 months ago
@onder1188 Look in a mirror,buddy.Muslims lie,because they are of their father,the devil.He is the father of lies.You cannot help it,because a child will resemble their father.So you resemble him.
1timothy21 10 months ago
@1timothy21 Yea yea, it's always same story that Muslims lies and are not peaceful. How many of that I heard by Christians. They always end up losing the debate and starting cursing at me cause they can't accept they were wrong. Been there done that really. How can Islam from the devil when it is thought to love and obey one true god, when it is said that devil is an open enemy for us. That we should be good toward mankind etc. How can this be from the devil ROFL.
onder1188 10 months ago
@onder1188 lol-Islam is peaceful?all evidence to the contrary.
1timothy21 10 months ago
@onder1188 It is not just christians that see you guys are violent,and that your book is violent.Hindu's fight you.Atheists laugh at you.You are at war with all of North America and NATO.You are fighting troops in China.Russia,and all over the globe.You guys can't get along with anybody,can you?
1timothy21 10 months ago
@onder1188 If you served the true God,you would not have this problem,for God is love.
1timothy21 10 months ago
@onder1188 Good for you.I have seen Muslims crushed by christians.Find any believer who knows their stuff,and you are done for.
1timothy21 10 months ago
@1timothy21 All the major war was always done by Christians. 1st and 2nd world war, the crusaders etc. Now they attack Islam. You are shit. bye :)
onder1188 10 months ago