I actually discovered this myself by accident when I had my 1st fight and I was jumping around like crazy cos my opponent moved like he was on speed+steroids, and I landed up there.
Pretty cheap ass way to win though, since all the arena battles seem to be WAY easier than even random bandit fights (although I only started using the Arena when I got to level 24 HAHAHA), but since the enemies level up with you, then I guess the Arena's ALWAYS been easy as a vietnamese prostitute on pills.
I have a question, i just got this game and everything is fine, graphics are great everything is perfectly fine except one thing. When I go to walk/run he like slow motion runs and goes really slow does ANYBODY know why or what to do? please? Thanks
i remember the first time i did this was against the wood elf sisters, and i was running around and my characters fragile so i was gettin my ass kicked by the sword holding sister, then i jumped up and said "hey ima win this now" but then the archer killed me D:
omg i had a tough time with that one to, what i did was just use the flare spell on them over and over and over. when only one was left i would take him down with a sword. i suggest carrying a lot of potions that restore magika while you do it, or use a bow and arrow
That "bigskydownload" site is a phishing site. It's a scam site to get passwords, credit card info, and anything else they can off your computer. If you went to that link, I strongly suggest you change all your passwords asap, and run full virus and spyware scans on your computer.
there is easier way with high sneak and marksman... just sneak before gate open. and when it open shoot at opponent. You will get critical strike. shoot 2 other times - still criticals (he doesnt see you). Win!
yea you either do that or...you actually learn to play this game and have fun charging ahead ^^ Anyway this is pretty useless when you fight against casters
yeah. im gettting in now in like 2 mins :D (bout to go to wally world)
and its alot easyer to charge at the ppl. thats how i killed em when i played it at my freinds. and it got me all the way to killing the orc vamp dude. :P but i didnt do the quest. i just knew about it
i want ths game so badly for the 360, but it's rated M. it's only rated M cuz on the PC version, some retard found out a way to make all the girls topless.
lol i play this on xbox and do pertty much the same thing but from the floor... i hide on the side of the gate but from the inside, and since my sneak is 95 and marksman is like 78 I kill them in 5 shots max...
i just kill them with the fist ^^.the fist is totally one of best weapons at start. i beat the full arena quest incl. the champ without did his quest. have been so easy. :D just give it a try
Man that look horrible, what the hell graphics card are you running.
There's an easier way to win. go to the market district head ito Rindir's Staffs, and buy the Apothesis staff. then go to arena kills enemy in one hit usually. great weapon for beginners.
ehhh, probably pretty poor. you MIGHT be able to get around 20 or so FPS on BARE minimum, lowest resolution you can handle... correct me if im wrong someone because i dont know much about 9600 series
What I did was I went into sneak mode and hid at the stairs with my bow. The people would run through the gates and I would do about 3 sneak attacks and they would be dead.
i know a better way, if you are born under the sign of the shadow get the spell creater at the arcane university and create a 10 sec or so invisiblity spell, and then get behind an opponent and go into sneak mode, then while in sneak u get sneak bonus so keep attack him or her in sneak until they die thats what i did, really easy, make sure u save first tho, u might need good sneak skill idk, i did it in 20s level cause i waited to long, arena feels empty after you beat it, the gladiator is sad
lol noob. the arena is easy as hell. i beat it like 40 times without mods or cheat anything but fighting no hideing either. i beat like 20 times on a lvl 1 too
yeah but since enemies lvl with you thats not too special, the main quest for example gets alot harder when ur lvl 20 rather than lvl 1 since u now fight xivilai instead of scamps....
wow when i get tis game in like 4 days ( for my b-day ) i wanted to be a marksmen/sneak so just to clear things up if i put this guy on hardest difficulty and have like 2000 arrows i can get like 3-5 rank ups off this 1 guy if im like lvl 1 ?
yo, i play oblivin and im a masterr at marksman and sneak. but i used cheats XDanyway herre a cheat that can boots up anyskill u want/ player.avdskil blade 5
oh and if u want to increase marksman skill use this guys cheat/tip and increase difficlty and it will take longer for opponent to die. (but make sure to bring ALOT of arrows
i have a better thing for everyone to make the game easier and u can change it whenever u want, some people may know this but:
at the oblivion game menu go to options-gameplay and yuo will see a difficulty glider, pull it to left for decreased difficulty and move to the right to make it harder, do this to get through the arena quickly and then if you want u can change it back to normal or make it harder :)hope it helps
fuck ! first i had this game om my computar then i sold it to a friend then i bauged again on xbox 360 and SOLD IT AGAIN :O i'm so stupied i wan't it again :( :P but now i want it on PC
Can some1 please tell me how to make moves because I see people do spinning moves can u please tell me how ty
arturoibarra1000 2 months ago
Ah, Oblivion AI. Nothing like it
Exitou 3 months ago
yeah its not like i'll try to climb the rock attack it is better :D
ZeroXYZ4 4 months ago
"i have a arrow in my head! oh well! " :D
GeneralRoflmao 7 months ago
I actually discovered this myself by accident when I had my 1st fight and I was jumping around like crazy cos my opponent moved like he was on speed+steroids, and I landed up there.
Pretty cheap ass way to win though, since all the arena battles seem to be WAY easier than even random bandit fights (although I only started using the Arena when I got to level 24 HAHAHA), but since the enemies level up with you, then I guess the Arena's ALWAYS been easy as a vietnamese prostitute on pills.
ncshuriken 8 months ago
hmm
i just start it
wich best thing?
magic? or haler or ...
plz tell me
MrDark1000 10 months ago
I actually did this. Then i hated myself.
kQdd 11 months ago
Pc is the best!
MajorRyan30 11 months ago
stupid noob
axeleelman 1 year ago
I find it funny that the only armor you have to run around in the arena is nothing but a dress and armored panties.
Oy vey.
HatOfOmnipotence 1 year ago
is that different HUD a mod?
breachmania 1 year ago
Just get really, really, really good at archery and you're golden :) cuz then you could kill people on your first shot like my character can! :)
VivaRiaAme 1 year ago
@VivaRiaAme yer mine kills them in one shot aswell =D
Jevans1000 1 year ago
well, if you're going to use the console you might as well just use the kill command instead.
n00bcakey 1 year ago
lolll
HaseoFseiei 1 year ago
Worst thing in oblivion; you have to shoot 12903810293809128309813 arrows to kill an enemy.
AceVenturaQ911 1 year ago
the background music fits to it. haha ff7ac
ChampionPride2009 1 year ago
I love the speed of your game as you do to speed up play and record?
deepcure 1 year ago
I would get Soul Trap, Grand Soul Stone, and an Apotheosis staff, the staff does 99 damage :)
VerrucktHuhn 1 year ago
does this work on ps3?
raiders545 1 year ago
hey what did you use to record the video? thanks if you reply :)
TheDividas1 1 year ago
can I run this game on 512 mb ram,AMD Sepron 2200+ 1.5 ghz processor and GeForce FX 5200(128 mb) video card?????
mrDarko94 1 year ago
What's the name of the track please?
djst1gma 1 year ago
@djst1gma Battle in the Forgotten City.
Hakker3 1 year ago
@Hakker3 Cheers mate!
djst1gma 1 year ago
I have a question, i just got this game and everything is fine, graphics are great everything is perfectly fine except one thing. When I go to walk/run he like slow motion runs and goes really slow does ANYBODY know why or what to do? please? Thanks
Gaara164 1 year ago
@Gaara164 thats called lag or ur carrying to much stuff
TsrisChris 1 year ago
options gameplay diffecolty 0% faster win!!!!
erikbijak 1 year ago
nice but go on options then go on gameplay then on diffeaculty put it on 0% abd youll win faster!!
erikbijak 1 year ago
Cheater!!!
simidomitomodani 1 year ago
i remember the first time i did this was against the wood elf sisters, and i was running around and my characters fragile so i was gettin my ass kicked by the sword holding sister, then i jumped up and said "hey ima win this now" but then the archer killed me D:
imstillmatic179 1 year ago
how do you beat the 3 argonian prisoners im pretty low levle im a lv 4 gladiator and there helth recharges
TheArcticFALLOUT 1 year ago
@TheArcticFALLOUT
omg i had a tough time with that one to, what i did was just use the flare spell on them over and over and over. when only one was left i would take him down with a sword. i suggest carrying a lot of potions that restore magika while you do it, or use a bow and arrow
meezergrl325 1 year ago
That "bigskydownload" site is a phishing site. It's a scam site to get passwords, credit card info, and anything else they can off your computer. If you went to that link, I strongly suggest you change all your passwords asap, and run full virus and spyware scans on your computer.
Zaranyzerak 1 year ago
dude i went to the website today and i couldent find it...... rly want to download on the pc
scoot25956 1 year ago
there is easier way with high sneak and marksman... just sneak before gate open. and when it open shoot at opponent. You will get critical strike. shoot 2 other times - still criticals (he doesnt see you). Win!
bolastube 2 years ago
I think I'm getting Oblivion: Game Of The Year Edition, pretty cheap in Sweden right now. ;D
Fisaren 2 years ago
wow your archer skills sucks big time mate
xthotx 2 years ago
well now your'e not gonna get your light or heavy armour up so ha >:D
KlTTYFAT 2 years ago
yea you either do that or...you actually learn to play this game and have fun charging ahead ^^ Anyway this is pretty useless when you fight against casters
Mincho1994 2 years ago 12
doge the magic..... block the magic.......i dont think u can block magic..........well just roll thatll help
theruinedshadow4 2 years ago
AMEN!
DragonGamer360 1 year ago
@Mincho1994 well there is not many casters/archers in the arena mostly meleers
eskon12345 1 year ago
i think im gonna get this game... im experienced in the graphics since im a big fan of fallout 3 >:{
Fisaren 2 years ago
yeah. im gettting in now in like 2 mins :D (bout to go to wally world)
and its alot easyer to charge at the ppl. thats how i killed em when i played it at my freinds. and it got me all the way to killing the orc vamp dude. :P but i didnt do the quest. i just knew about it
TYX1123 2 years ago
i do the same in every arena battle, when i dont get killed of course
viceplayer 2 years ago
dued that cool
shinkoyou 2 years ago
i know how to do it even easier on pc! just type in kill in the commands
minyguy 2 years ago
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it kinda looks like fable
SketchySkotchy 2 years ago
nothing like fable
TheUfc67 2 years ago
yep its way better
nickrulez809765 2 years ago
how did you roll on the floor like that ?
Pjordan87 2 years ago
its a mod, but it only works for pc, not xbox or ps3.
Brist94 2 years ago
get your acrobatics up high enough and you can roll.
ThingxHulk 2 years ago
what happens if you run out of arrows?
BrianBTV 2 years ago
the shop visiting happens =D
i dupe arrows =D
Xx0gh0st0xX 2 years ago
then you use other arrows :D
or you start using magic.
and if that doesn't help, you can still throw your armor at there head ;)
highfire666 2 years ago
omfg..thats music is aawsome compared to the xbox and ps3
aawsome69 2 years ago
fuck you audio preview
Airsoftfeak345 2 years ago
i got an elder scrolls 4 oblivion game at gamestop that said T on the box.
foof898 2 years ago
That's because Oblivion was orignally rated T before someone made the nude patch for PC
jeffro282 2 years ago
console--->tgm
swiftknife5005 2 years ago
that takes very long time cause ur rangerskills are weak... unless ur enemy got damn much hp
leatherface4444 2 years ago
i want ths game so badly for the 360, but it's rated M. it's only rated M cuz on the PC version, some retard found out a way to make all the girls topless.
MarinersSuckEggs 2 years ago
holy fuck are you fucking retarded cunt! you must be like 10 years old if you cant play m, cause anyone in teens is allowed to buy M.
The game is rated M because of violence you dipshit.
SERIOUSLY 10 YEAR OLDS STAY OFF FUCKING YOUTUBE
sheehzles 2 years ago
if any one remebers cuz i'm still a newb were can i get a good bow at low lvl/ beggingin? some one answer me back with help :D
mrp12 2 years ago
what lvl are you? and what bow do you have?
mrp12 2 years ago
Elven Bow
sturm198 2 years ago
i win whif out doing that
dustinluvshadow 2 years ago
I don't recognize the music. How do you cgange it?
Or is it a diffrent version?
Please tell.... I wanna know xD
Zeadar 2 years ago
haha I'll have to keep this in mind.
Dorkis07 2 years ago
how the fuck do u roll????????????
staffordshirebull909 3 years ago
its an ability you get in either acrobatics or athletics at i think journeyman level.i dont have it yet though so i might be wrong =(
LewisShooterMcKay 3 years ago 2
Arcobatics
The1isback 2 years ago
your right acrobats (lewisshootermckay
piekiler 2 years ago
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oh u noob he is so easy i can kill him in 1 hit
pizza56789 3 years ago
yea well not all ppl like you play this game with GOD mode and easy difficulty
Skibbaaa 2 years ago
actually i killed him on the difficult hard u noob
pizza56789 2 years ago
actually your opinion means ,,SO'' much to me...ass
Skibbaaa 2 years ago 2
console commands suck i fight without em
ddogate 3 years ago
i know a easier way to win
go to the options menu and then gameplay en pull the difficult to left haha but this is a nice trick
boytje1000 3 years ago
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you mean playn on easiest setting , noob
CriQYodaAVGNandIG 3 years ago
How can you change the music of the game?
The trick is aweseome, thanks for showing it ;)
Alecktrick 3 years ago 2
wow nice i didn't know that you can go up there i always die on that part now i know so next time i play, i will do that! lolzz
nelnel24 3 years ago
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what a asshole,u play like bitch,fight honored
jakonicki93 3 years ago
haha this is a game nerdzor
ghostrider101101 3 years ago
who,me?,..or him..???
jakonicki93 3 years ago
dude, i so didnt know u could do that. and here i am drinking all of my pots and using my scrolls.
jedigamer619 3 years ago
If you have pc, just type ~, then select you target and type kill. Its easy xD
Juniorwhopper13 3 years ago
where's the fuckin blood
kevNUM1twin 3 years ago
is it hard to shoot arrows on the ps3 controller, im used to PC ????
bjwebber88 3 years ago
Not really, just hold R1 to charge the arrow then let go.
restorecop99 3 years ago
lol i play this on xbox and do pertty much the same thing but from the floor... i hide on the side of the gate but from the inside, and since my sneak is 95 and marksman is like 78 I kill them in 5 shots max...
thebestofme01 3 years ago
i just kill them with swords much faster
1WildStyle 3 years ago
i just kill them with the fist ^^.the fist is totally one of best weapons at start. i beat the full arena quest incl. the champ without did his quest. have been so easy. :D just give it a try
CruiserDeluXe 3 years ago
how do you roll? do you need like max athletics or something?
bonsai303 3 years ago
No you don't.
Mounti17 3 years ago
u have to be one a level which i dont know right now on your atlethic
CruiserDeluXe 3 years ago
on an xbox:
equip and block with shield [hold LT]
press y.
i dont know about skill levels
rangove1 3 years ago
Man that look horrible, what the hell graphics card are you running.
There's an easier way to win. go to the market district head ito Rindir's Staffs, and buy the Apothesis staff. then go to arena kills enemy in one hit usually. great weapon for beginners.
RRooooooNNNN 3 years ago
....so...wat happens when you run out of ammo?
taitai907 3 years ago
use a melee weapono or bare hands.
jamesjiao 3 years ago
but u have to jump from your vantage point.
taitai907 3 years ago
yep.. of course.. you always have the option of casting spells.
jamesjiao 3 years ago
touche'....
taitai907 3 years ago
i really hate that commentator
nonorelation 3 years ago
lol great strategy
NQTY 3 years ago
another easy way to kill in the arena is to open the console with ` and type 'kill' on your oponent :-)
SupaStealth 3 years ago
At what kind of performance would i be able to play this game at on MINIMUM settings?
My system is as follows:
Intel Celeron 2.7GHz Processor
512MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9600 Series graphics card.
Thanks:)
12pgr7a 3 years ago
ehhh, probably pretty poor. you MIGHT be able to get around 20 or so FPS on BARE minimum, lowest resolution you can handle... correct me if im wrong someone because i dont know much about 9600 series
bob10001234 3 years ago
were do you get those gloves from?
MickeyP91 3 years ago
Could someone please reply?????
How would i be able to play this game on my pc, minimum specs are as follows:
Processor: Intel Celeron 2.6GHz
RAM: 512MB
Graphic Card: ATI Radeon 9600
Yeah, so if someone can just tell me at what sort of performance i would be able to run this game at.
12pgr7a 3 years ago
NO!
siulmr1 3 years ago
you need 1G ram at least. Your video card is decent enough to play on minimum graphics settings.
jamesjiao 3 years ago
lol i was just doing that on 360 XD so easy
thirtzel 3 years ago
Hi, How would i be able to play this game on my pc, minimum specs are as follows:
Processor: Intel Celeron 2.6GHz
RAM: 512MB
Graphic Card: ATI Radeon 9600
Yeah, so if someone can just tell me at what sort of performance i would be able to run this game at.
Thanks:)
12pgr7a 3 years ago
uhhhh....well...decently...
taitai907 3 years ago
i got a khajit and used that eye that scares people and i just slash away! easy way to get in dark brotherhood too
chrisfdot 3 years ago
What I did was I went into sneak mode and hid at the stairs with my bow. The people would run through the gates and I would do about 3 sneak attacks and they would be dead.
SavageT1337 3 years ago
yeah, silver bows are good. i once stealth killed the guard at the inn of ill omen
he had one
nice vid
B3rtoms 3 years ago
i take my bows from the big castle guards :D silver bow i think im gonna test this tactic right now..
AntonnnnSwedenRocks 3 years ago
I love going in the arena sword and shield. The motion blurr when you block a blow is unreal, and it makes it so realistic.
JimboJoy 3 years ago
were do you get good bows from??
pinkvans1 3 years ago
The higher the level u ar the better equipment u get
Sh4dowmere 3 years ago
i know a better way, if you are born under the sign of the shadow get the spell creater at the arcane university and create a 10 sec or so invisiblity spell, and then get behind an opponent and go into sneak mode, then while in sneak u get sneak bonus so keep attack him or her in sneak until they die thats what i did, really easy, make sure u save first tho, u might need good sneak skill idk, i did it in 20s level cause i waited to long, arena feels empty after you beat it, the gladiator is sad
sandman312 3 years ago
i think he got just a bit tired after beeing shot 5 million times
Ibanez6292 3 years ago
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watch my video of my cheat on Oblivion its UNREAL
pancakelovers 3 years ago
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please dont spam.
lordash12 3 years ago
shoot to the leg and they wont be able to walk for some time
pullo123 3 years ago
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Noob!!!
PatejlSK 3 years ago
ok, ok, is it just the camera, or does elder scrolls seem to be the game with the worst lighting ever...
vanin2008 3 years ago
wat r u talkin about?
Shadowjak101 3 years ago
what im talking about is that every elderscrolls game i watch has shit lighting... i was considering buying it but now im not so sure...
vanin2008 3 years ago
what im talking about is that every elderscrolls game i watch has shit lighting... i was considering buying it but now im not so sure...
vanin2008 3 years ago
its the comp settings i bet they have shadows orf or somthin
zaks6 3 years ago
yep shithouse compared to assassains cred
nead69er 3 years ago
ok guys i have played oblivion and the lighting isn't shit it is realistic so stop hatin coz you are to pov to buy it.
Besides the only dark places are in caves but your meant to use a torch or a flame to help you see. So stop hating you low life scum bags.
EESSnipes 3 years ago
dude assasins creed was 10 hours long and has no replay value, oblivion you could have fun with for years
AdamJaffer 3 years ago 4
lol good choice in music, FFVII is a great movie
DurzaMajiks 3 years ago
lol u need a better marksman skill first but good stuff
kidman73 3 years ago
The is another way.. u can jump throw the wall on the right side of u where the door is when he starts talking
1ogeybear 3 years ago
Now i am a champion of arena and everyone knows me"!!! That's great!!! I love this game!!!
DBfHL 3 years ago
can u do on xbox? i wish i could'v just beat arena beat grand champion without doing his gay quest fought him 4 real was pretty hard i was lvl 8....
ufan4life 3 years ago
what level r u
Wmhbk 4 years ago
I wish that would work with guards but they just pull out there bow. =(
shadow7820 4 years ago
dick head aroows gainst armour u may aswell use diffeculty at 0!
jaksta96 4 years ago
that GAMECAM are you using??? pls tell me:)
taba1992 4 years ago
lolz pin-cushion
daburninator 4 years ago
lol noob. the arena is easy as hell. i beat it like 40 times without mods or cheat anything but fighting no hideing either. i beat like 20 times on a lvl 1 too
Oblivionman19 4 years ago
yeah but since enemies lvl with you thats not too special, the main quest for example gets alot harder when ur lvl 20 rather than lvl 1 since u now fight xivilai instead of scamps....
Wallalaahh 4 years ago 2
so is the rolling thing a mod? or can you do it when you get max acrobatics/athletics?
crater9 4 years ago
when u get 50 acrobatics u can do the roll
Oblivionman19 4 years ago
Jouneyman of acrobatics...(50)
daburninator 4 years ago
lol thats not easy wins
platapouce 4 years ago
is that for the pc or 360?i must know bc i only have oblivion gotye for my 360 but i can get it for my pc if its better on it.
pimpwill3 4 years ago
wow when i get tis game in like 4 days ( for my b-day ) i wanted to be a marksmen/sneak so just to clear things up if i put this guy on hardest difficulty and have like 2000 arrows i can get like 3-5 rank ups off this 1 guy if im like lvl 1 ?
nerdered 4 years ago
yo, i play oblivin and im a masterr at marksman and sneak. but i used cheats XDanyway herre a cheat that can boots up anyskill u want/ player.avdskil blade 5
platapouce 4 years ago
If only I knew this before I became Grand Champion
WarFang76 4 years ago
oh and if u want to increase marksman skill use this guys cheat/tip and increase difficlty and it will take longer for opponent to die. (but make sure to bring ALOT of arrows
Reply if u want, or not
bye
LittleBlondeWonder 4 years ago
i have a better thing for everyone to make the game easier and u can change it whenever u want, some people may know this but:
at the oblivion game menu go to options-gameplay and yuo will see a difficulty glider, pull it to left for decreased difficulty and move to the right to make it harder, do this to get through the arena quickly and then if you want u can change it back to normal or make it harder :)hope it helps
Laterz
LittleBlondeWonder 4 years ago
I think you would've been dead if you weren't up there.
Kissmybumper234 4 years ago
Yes when U R using a bow U R dead in meele no matter the level and others
WarFang76 4 years ago
Yeah, if you stand in one spot like a complete dumb ass.
Ravickcaro 4 years ago
Yes,true
WarFang76 4 years ago
not always i just run around backwards and killem off since all my stats are up to 100 (the hard way)
zombe0 3 years ago
How did you jump there ? That's not the computer version right ?
kerimbensel 4 years ago
y would u want to do that it just takes the fun out of it
seVIDHUNTER 4 years ago
I used to do this until I learned that summoning a skeleton and then hanging back in sneak mode at the entrance killed them so much faster.
Sunrie 4 years ago
what song is that?
XXPaintballaXX 4 years ago
your a fuck tard,not all ppl can do that most ppl uses swords...and your a noob :p
James666146 4 years ago
great vid!
FenixHobo 4 years ago
dude when u have 100 sneak just hide at the enterance and u will kill them in like 5 shots!!!! thats way faster!!!!!!!!!!!!
PaINtBalLIiNG 4 years ago
Thats the worst vid i have ever seen. And because? cause it takes so long to beat your opponent. othervise it was ok.
sutnorb 4 years ago
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u re a stupid asshole
darkcava222 4 years ago
that won't help you when you are going up against that dark elve that uses destruction spells in range, their alot powerfuller than arrows too.
darksytzes 4 years ago
i just do it with a paralyze spell and my fists
yordi193 4 years ago 4
thast why i hate being a marksman
Dostanio 4 years ago
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i know a way to cheat yourself to 255 in all skills as blade and all that
pajfarfar 4 years ago
how do you use bow i just get discv...
ygqa3p2w 4 years ago
LOL... i never thought of doing that, i just wanted to mutilate !!!!
xzadurate 4 years ago 3
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Wow, you suck so bad you have to hide up there? I beat the whole areana without dying once, and I'm pure melee.
acescope 4 years ago
dude your guys weak compared to the guy in my video, and i found a higher spot in the arena to jump to
pingpongman6543 4 years ago
fuck ! first i had this game om my computar then i sold it to a friend then i bauged again on xbox 360 and SOLD IT AGAIN :O i'm so stupied i wan't it again :( :P but now i want it on PC
jippikaiey 4 years ago