Hello, I made an multitouch table, with 140 Leds. Actually it's doesn't work, with my optitrack V100R2. The camera ins't recognized with CCV. I have downloaded your version of CCV. But it's always fail (W. Vista).
Did you have you ever had a success experiance with the V100R2 ? Thanks
@nokthib We started with some v100 cameras which we use for tracking persons, and did some experiments with those. No problems there. When we needed to buy more for the big screen, we choose the cheaper v120. So it should work.
@nokthib CCV does not support optitrack camera's out of the box. We had to add this functionality to it. The modified version you probably downloaded was for when we were still using the v100 cameras and we also were using optitrack's old camera sdk. Recently optitrack switched to a new sdk and I don't know if the new drivers are still compatible with their old sdk. One thing you could try is to use ccv 1.4 with the optitrack directshow filter.
Couple of questions about some specifics. Do you have any extra details on the screen material? I've been wanting to try to pull this off (on a much smaller scale) with a projector behind the screen and would love to know what kind of material you used.
As well what was the model on those Barco HD projectors you are using? Definitely not in my budget but would love to see specs for getting something similar.
@ripsup The screen material is 3mm dark grey acrylic with a diffuser on the front viewing side. The projectors are NH12 (both screen and projectors are from Barco). But if you only want to have a touchscreen, you probably don't need those projectors. Note that we had this setup for some time now for real-time 3d stereo viewing which is the reason why we have such fancy equipment. Recently we only added touch to it.
@1LLUS Thanks I found a site that has the material. The project I am wanting to do isn't a touchscreen one but what I wanted was a curved screen to project on from behind. BUT after seeing the touchscreen part you are tempting me though. Where it would go though is not someplace that someone would walk up to but not saying I wouldn't try that else where like a conference room. :)
@ripsup Out of curiosity where did you find the material? With multiple projectors, the diffuser has to be really good to prevent seeing the hotspots from the lens through the screen. The dark acrylic is needed to prevent halo's around bright objects due to internal reflections (the dark part quickly dampens those)
@ripsup I don't know. I have come across dark grey acrylic material, which was intended for projection, but it didn't have any diffuse layer on the outside. So with that material they basically used a piece of slightly ruffed up acrylic. It is not the same as we have. We have a dark acrylic substrate with a white coating on one side. That coating makes it diffuse and it works very very good.
Now when it comes to touch, it might not be the best choice as that coating isn't very scratch resistant.
@1LLUS Do you know the name of the material you are using or possibly where I would be best to find it at? In the end I'm looking to do something about 1/3rd the size of yours using 2 projectors. Thanks
@ripsup No, I don't know. We got it from BARCO, the company that also makes the projectors. If you send me your contact details in a PM, I could ask a sales person from BARCO to contact you. (I'm definitely NOT working for them).
@AnonSphere Such a number is kind of useless for a curved screen. That's why we specify the angle. If you were to match it with a flat screen that number will end up being something like 57:9 (assuming you stand in the center). Now that's what you can call a wide screen :-). And yes we make 3D movies to match that.
@helliop Idk if this has been answered yet, but youtube does this thing where when you upload a video that has a lot of black at the end, that the actual video content would be better quality. Its just a little trick
@HiImSylar (look at the 4th comment of this video). What is remarkable though that apparently the black part 20 seconds before the end is more watched than the rest of the black. Even better (all according to the youtube statistics) that part is even watched more than the average movie with more or less the same length. My guess is that with the black part people click near the end to see what might be there, whereas with normal movies the end might get skipped. Its something I just noticed.
@MultitouchWork of course, this is mentioned in the text belonging to the movie at youtube. After finishing the hardware and software we installed some existing multitouch demos.
I noticed that in the paint demo there is only one menu and everyone has to paint with the same color. I imagine this is because the system cannot recognize individual users so it is not possible for everyone to have their own color palette menu. Any plans on making this recognize individual users (perhaps using kinect cameras)? I see a lot of potential for this project once that limitation is solved
@jnajarro03 You are right of course. Any static menu with such a big screen is a bad idea. You don't want to walk to one side of the screen to change a color using a menu and walk back again. Every user should be able to have its own menu. Identifying users is a lot harder (even a kinect can get confused). Perhaps some simple rules like 'a paint brush uses the color from the most nearby menu' are workable. Lots of questions, lots of ideas... time to do research by the students.
@20eric07 I don't know. After we made the hardware, we wanted to have some quick demo. As mentioned in the text belonging to the movie on youtube, we used MT4J. The plasma effect is one of their demos.
@mezvan@sanadTech@nickds7@SirJayem We are very good at making black movies. We hired some very good actors for the last part and we are considering making a full length, 1.5 hour version of it. The color part was just a mistake ;-)
Ff vraagje aan de ontwerpers van dit supercoole scherm....WAAROM WINDOWS!!! ER ZIJN VEEL MEER MOGELIJKHEDEN MET OSX OF IN IEDERGEVAL IETS LINUX-BASED!
@sherrifster because it also does linux ;-) However when we use windows, only one pc is driving the screen with only one graphics card. That's a lot easier on the standard demos.
We use linux to drive the system in 3D active stereo mode, with one pc and one graphics card per projector. Gives a lot more graphics power. In that mode there is one master pc connected to the six slaves. The master pc receives the touch events.
replying to your own comment is like talking to yourself in public
Whitb626 1 month ago
@Whitb626 yeah bruh
Whitb626 1 month ago
0:37 wtf? the guy is crazy kkkk
nairondavid 1 month ago
Quem é brasileiro da joinha!
nairondavid 1 month ago
Imagine the wonders if this touch screen could run with an android or ios platform..
mikolover1000 1 month ago
Unusual comments for this video once more.
chrlsnewsom5 2 months ago
hadouken!
sdvox56 2 months ago
colorful, sparkling touch screen... COOL technology!
happinesson 2 months ago
w0w
nelrish24 3 months ago
cool touchscreens. . they should have created a longer demo for this stuff. .
cyclestring 3 months ago
@cyclestring did you see the other one about science on a sphere??
1LLUS 3 months ago
angry birds
rulton166 3 months ago
But will it blend?! :D
klappinsounds 4 months ago
@klappinsounds Is your blender big enough? but yes it does blend the output from 6 HD projectors together into one big image.
1LLUS 4 months ago
If they put their head, and arms on it at 0:42 then would it look like a Timelord regenerating?
Iluvu098 4 months ago
Awesome! Great job!
CroatianScience 6 months ago
Hello, I made an multitouch table, with 140 Leds. Actually it's doesn't work, with my optitrack V100R2. The camera ins't recognized with CCV. I have downloaded your version of CCV. But it's always fail (W. Vista).
Did you have you ever had a success experiance with the V100R2 ? Thanks
nokthib 8 months ago
@nokthib We started with some v100 cameras which we use for tracking persons, and did some experiments with those. No problems there. When we needed to buy more for the big screen, we choose the cheaper v120. So it should work.
1LLUS 8 months ago
@1LLUS Thanks for your answer. Did you use a special driver ? program ? for use those V100 with TUIO ? Thanks !
nokthib 8 months ago
because my V100R2 isn't recognized by CCV1.3 and 1.4. The V120 Works directly ? Thanks
nokthib 8 months ago
@nokthib CCV does not support optitrack camera's out of the box. We had to add this functionality to it. The modified version you probably downloaded was for when we were still using the v100 cameras and we also were using optitrack's old camera sdk. Recently optitrack switched to a new sdk and I don't know if the new drivers are still compatible with their old sdk. One thing you could try is to use ccv 1.4 with the optitrack directshow filter.
PjotrSve 8 months ago
dibs
ForkInAnOutletTV 8 months ago
@ForkInAnOutletTV sorry, you can't dibs this screen ;-)
1LLUS 8 months ago
Ga voor Philips werken ofzo :P
Zoza15 8 months ago
HADOUKEN!
megamaa 9 months ago
so you guys wrote all the programs and setup all these high tech devices... but couldnt cut the video short? lol jk no offense
yaunotyao 10 months ago
I want to enact an epic Kamehameha battle with a worthy enemy using this...
victoxic 10 months ago
Spectacular, congratulations for the great video
Touchscreen10 team
touchscreenTABLETPC 10 months ago
Couple of questions about some specifics. Do you have any extra details on the screen material? I've been wanting to try to pull this off (on a much smaller scale) with a projector behind the screen and would love to know what kind of material you used.
As well what was the model on those Barco HD projectors you are using? Definitely not in my budget but would love to see specs for getting something similar.
Awesome project and thanks for sharing.
ripsup 10 months ago
@ripsup The screen material is 3mm dark grey acrylic with a diffuser on the front viewing side. The projectors are NH12 (both screen and projectors are from Barco). But if you only want to have a touchscreen, you probably don't need those projectors. Note that we had this setup for some time now for real-time 3d stereo viewing which is the reason why we have such fancy equipment. Recently we only added touch to it.
1LLUS 10 months ago
@1LLUS Thanks I found a site that has the material. The project I am wanting to do isn't a touchscreen one but what I wanted was a curved screen to project on from behind. BUT after seeing the touchscreen part you are tempting me though. Where it would go though is not someplace that someone would walk up to but not saying I wouldn't try that else where like a conference room. :)
ripsup 10 months ago
@ripsup Out of curiosity where did you find the material? With multiple projectors, the diffuser has to be really good to prevent seeing the hotspots from the lens through the screen. The dark acrylic is needed to prevent halo's around bright objects due to internal reflections (the dark part quickly dampens those)
1LLUS 10 months ago
@1LLUS This was website I found.
The Evonik ACRYLITE 7D513 - Dark Grey is what I figured you were using? Am I right in this thought or did I find the wrong thing?
Thanks
ripsup 10 months ago
@ripsup I don't know. I have come across dark grey acrylic material, which was intended for projection, but it didn't have any diffuse layer on the outside. So with that material they basically used a piece of slightly ruffed up acrylic. It is not the same as we have. We have a dark acrylic substrate with a white coating on one side. That coating makes it diffuse and it works very very good.
Now when it comes to touch, it might not be the best choice as that coating isn't very scratch resistant.
1LLUS 10 months ago
@1LLUS Do you know the name of the material you are using or possibly where I would be best to find it at? In the end I'm looking to do something about 1/3rd the size of yours using 2 projectors. Thanks
ripsup 10 months ago
@ripsup No, I don't know. We got it from BARCO, the company that also makes the projectors. If you send me your contact details in a PM, I could ask a sales person from BARCO to contact you. (I'm definitely NOT working for them).
1LLUS 10 months ago
@1LLUS Hum wouldn't take the URL. do a search for "peauproductions" and "diffusers" and it should come up.
ripsup 10 months ago
0:44
KAAAAAAAAA MEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA MEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
turbatu1 11 months ago
Leuk speelgoed =P
diamyo42 11 months ago
iphone 5
littlesegall 11 months ago
Gods at play...
rogerthat155 11 months ago
OnO Invite me over, please?
iHavezMyBirdo 11 months ago
The iPad 3
stoneswordT 11 months ago
@stoneswordT lol
FranEdiciones 11 months ago
KAMEHAMEHA! anyone?
hellN0 11 months ago
.... 3D this shit... i wonder how many graphic cards does it take...
SierraHawkProduction 11 months ago
@SierraHawkProduction It takes just one graphics card (High-end nvidia)
1LLUS 11 months ago
@SierraHawkProduction
theres no "graphic" cards in the world... learn to spell...
pufixas 11 months ago
@pufixas good job being a douche
SierraHawkProduction 11 months ago
I want to see Plasma Pong on this.
andrewc513 11 months ago 2
Sure, we can create the largest touch screen in the world. Cutting the end off video's will be our next project.
markdg83 1 year ago 13
psh, I already have five of these on father's yacht.
hiblinist916 1 year ago
looks like firebending O.O
mewbra123 1 year ago
i am amaze,,, nice job,
chino19931000 1 year ago
like Magic!!
spongle23 1 year ago
what's name of the song Hadouken - ?????
TheNightheaven 1 year ago
Thumbs up if OMG Facts brought you here.
sirmel11 1 year ago
music?
LoudDogproductions 1 year ago
@LoudDogproductions Did you care reading through the text of the youtube movie ???
1LLUS 1 year ago 5
THAT IS SO EPIC
Palliehallie 1 year ago
Do a Kamehameha!
MasterRyuuma 1 year ago 8
am i the only one who sees this being part of people's homes in about a decade or two?
burningjelly4lyfe 1 year ago 3
Kill Deadthwing in 4900x1700pixels fck yeah
KiskhamTech 1 year ago
name of the song please
jehovany88 1 year ago
@jehovany88 The music is mentioned in the text belonging to the youtube movie
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS sorry
jehovany88 1 year ago
i cant imagine playing HALO or gran turismo on that shit!!! fucking awsome
kuikoman 1 year ago
Lol plasma pong.
PCSoftware 1 year ago
like a MORTAL KOMBAT FIGHT!
cetgraf 1 year ago
cool ;) terrific resolution, really nice for GIS!
UWA or uniw (universal wall)
jactoinc 1 year ago
graffiti-street-tagging-simulator.exe
sancsengo 1 year ago
great minds!!! although you should look for a better name
estalactico 1 year ago
@estalactico any suggestions?? sofar we have iWall (but that's being used elsewhere) and Touch Theater.
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS let me think about it, if I come up with something I´ll leave you a comment
estalactico 1 year ago
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estalactico 1 year ago
The technology is the future!
JonasEpic 1 year ago
only 4900x1700 pixels? Is that a mistake? Because that sounds pretty low, my cheap 24" LCD is 1920x1200, I'd expect a wall to be at least 10x that.
lifehackertips 1 year ago
Is there an app like that for the iphone, that when touched produces that light effect???
Luka92SRB 1 year ago
I love how all these huge multi-touch screens are just used to move pretty colours around.
arlojeremy 1 year ago 3
OMG-facts anyone?
dragongamer123 1 year ago
as if you wouldent get two people screaming "KA ME HA ME HAA" or "GALET GUN" on this thing
comadieguy666 1 year ago
That´s a huge screen :D, shared@blog.rvlt.tv
aerosolos 1 year ago
PORN!
koolaid5684 1 year ago 2
OMG FACTS!!
assholien 1 year ago
the next iPad
SuperGizmo64 1 year ago
OMG-FACTS SENT ME
BLACKOUT5529 1 year ago
at 0:37 the guy on the left tripped
normanlucasjr 1 year ago 2
(Insert comment about how OMG Facts brought you here)
Guitaraman55 1 year ago
Cool
musiqman0709 1 year ago
Clean the thing now :D
keyofdoornarutorscat 1 year ago
Damnit, no 16:9 resolution :-(
AnonSphere 1 year ago
@AnonSphere Such a number is kind of useless for a curved screen. That's why we specify the angle. If you were to match it with a flat screen that number will end up being something like 57:9 (assuming you stand in the center). Now that's what you can call a wide screen :-). And yes we make 3D movies to match that.
1LLUS 1 year ago 4
@1LLUS
I know, buddy - you would need a ladder for 16:9
AnonSphere 1 year ago
@1LLUS I know this is kind of off topic but I would really appreciate it if you told me where you got the music from? PS: Great job with the tec :-D
morty4815162342 1 year ago
@morty4815162342 the webpage is in the text belonging to the youtube movie
1LLUS 1 year ago
iWall
MalulThatsMe 1 year ago
Came... came... came.... came,came ráááaaaaa
kkkk
neygoias 1 year ago
Dá hadouken Ryu!!!
kkkkkkkkkkkk
neygoias 1 year ago
OMG facts
Bunnokazooie 1 year ago
Dear Santa.....
SneakerInTheSnow 1 year ago 18
thumbs up if you want one of these
budulududu1 1 year ago
Holy Shit this is fucking awesome!!!
KiIlerman 1 year ago
Expelliarmus!
bistander 1 year ago
Very cool. But's lets see some real world applications.
RandomTorok 1 year ago
Why is this video twice as long as it needs to be?
helliop 1 year ago 38
@helliop to end exactly at 2:22
1LLUS 1 year ago 42
@1LLUS is that a tribute to someone/something?
hereaminow 1 year ago
@1LLUS but it already ends at exactly 1:00 (the good part at least).
blackadder0sporetive 1 year ago
@1LLUS conspiracy?!
Kolosos007 1 year ago
@Kolosos007 could be ;-)
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS why exactly at 2:22?
Mortald126 11 months ago
@helliop Idk if this has been answered yet, but youtube does this thing where when you upload a video that has a lot of black at the end, that the actual video content would be better quality. Its just a little trick
That or they did it on accident...
HiImSylar 1 year ago
@HiImSylar No, I didn't know that. Why would youtube think a movie would be better with a lot of black at the end. Doesn't make sense to me.
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS I dont think it was really intentional, but rather something that their compression software just happened to do
HiImSylar 1 year ago
@HiImSylar (look at the 4th comment of this video). What is remarkable though that apparently the black part 20 seconds before the end is more watched than the rest of the black. Even better (all according to the youtube statistics) that part is even watched more than the average movie with more or less the same length. My guess is that with the black part people click near the end to see what might be there, whereas with normal movies the end might get skipped. Its something I just noticed.
1LLUS 1 year ago
BEST PART 1:24 - 2:22
ppo0po0 1 year ago 2
FUCKING AMAZING!
Joaovtrc 1 year ago
The particle demo is actually MSAFluid by Memo Akten which was then integrated into MT4j.
MultitouchWork 1 year ago
@MultitouchWork of course, this is mentioned in the text belonging to the movie at youtube. After finishing the hardware and software we installed some existing multitouch demos.
1LLUS 1 year ago
Great Work people. I would love to have this and use it with my PC....
theblackgold123 1 year ago
This is Damn good. I would love to have this baby. Awsome
theblackgold123 1 year ago
"Using multitouch Vista" ... WTF ?
drums34 1 year ago
The best part begins at 1:22
//Posted from ShuffleTube
Zevasa 1 year ago 2
@Zevasa very odd, they can build a giant fahrenheit 411 touchscreen but cannot edit the end of the video out
screamingservers 1 year ago
Awesome project.
I noticed that in the paint demo there is only one menu and everyone has to paint with the same color. I imagine this is because the system cannot recognize individual users so it is not possible for everyone to have their own color palette menu. Any plans on making this recognize individual users (perhaps using kinect cameras)? I see a lot of potential for this project once that limitation is solved
jnajarro03 1 year ago
@jnajarro03 You are right of course. Any static menu with such a big screen is a bad idea. You don't want to walk to one side of the screen to change a color using a menu and walk back again. Every user should be able to have its own menu. Identifying users is a lot harder (even a kinect can get confused). Perhaps some simple rules like 'a paint brush uses the color from the most nearby menu' are workable. Lots of questions, lots of ideas... time to do research by the students.
1LLUS 1 year ago
thumbs up for plasma pong!
ReverseDestruction 1 year ago
Скільки там задіяно, 8 чи 6 HD проекторів? Уявляю собі Шум позаду екрану)
stripedM 1 year ago
@stripedM 6 full HD projectors. The good thing is that most of the noise in BEHIND the screen!
1LLUS 1 year ago
This is purely incredible :)
lankatr 1 year ago
Even this was better than M Knight Shamalayn's crap version of Airbender!
tedsowards 1 year ago
Not impressed. I have one twice as big in my WC.
T0Ytuuube 1 year ago
круто! хочу себе такой :)
Tverskoy1982 1 year ago
AVADA KEDAVRA
republicausp 1 year ago
Was the guy who made Plasma Pong involved in any of this? Those particles and plasma effects are awfully similar...
20eric07 1 year ago
@20eric07 I don't know. After we made the hardware, we wanted to have some quick demo. As mentioned in the text belonging to the movie on youtube, we used MT4J. The plasma effect is one of their demos.
1LLUS 1 year ago
@20eric07 you can find this demo at msavisuals dt com/msafluid
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS Ah! It says on the page it was inspired by Plasma Pong. Good times!
20eric07 1 year ago
really cool
zherdeva 1 year ago
So... Christmas will be here again, in some time. I was wondering if you'd like to give me one?
citizenzombie 1 year ago
Want O.O
NausiMouse 1 year ago
i wonder how much will cost screen protectors for these!!
magas263 1 year ago
@magas263 Good question. We hope around 50 cents (by finding a cheap supplier for white cotton gloves).
1LLUS 1 year ago 2
Could you please tell me where the music is from? I think i know it from somewhere but just don't know where from.
paddotk 1 year ago
@paddotk the music is mentioned in the text attached to the movie at youtube
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS oh srry i apparently read the description too fast. Thanks for the reply :)
paddotk 1 year ago
0:45 anyone else immediately think of two wizards duelling?
Also, this would be EPIC in Stereo!
shwhjw 1 year ago 3
@shwhjw It DOES stereo but only in Linux mode (our usual way of driving the system)
1LLUS 1 year ago
@shwhjw woooa me!!! I have thought of Harry Potter :)
80marieta 1 year ago
Вот это понимаю, дипломная работа!
78ds 1 year ago
#00m37s FAIL
MrJudoranz 1 year ago
@mezvan @sanadTech @nickds7@SirJayem We are very good at making black movies. We hired some very good actors for the last part and we are considering making a full length, 1.5 hour version of it. The color part was just a mistake ;-)
1LLUS 1 year ago 5
My favorite part is also 1:28 to 2:22
nickds7 1 year ago
I liked to part where the two guys threw magic around like it was nothing.
CrappyBlueLuigi 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The last minute (1:22 to 2:22) is amazing !!!
mezvan 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The last minute (1:22 to 2:22) is amazing !!!
mezvan 1 year ago
The las minute (1:22 to 2:22) is amazing !!!
mezvan 1 year ago
"first we had the itouch, then the ipad, now the inevitable iwall."
considering that vista was used, this is probably my lame attempt at irony.
Vinco 1 year ago
Wanna one of this in my living room LOL
shoranhimura 1 year ago
My favorite part of this video is from 1:23 to 2:22, really awesome part, i like the black screen alot!
SanadTech 1 year ago 2
I'm not surprised we're getting such amazing psychedelic creations, and it's only the verrrry beginning.
JediMindTraveler 1 year ago
0:44 HADOUKEN
radscorponok 1 year ago 42
@radscorponok give me a hint, to better understand your comment
1LLUS 1 year ago
@1LLUS hadouken is an energy attack from a video game (street fighter or something) :p
paddotk 1 year ago
Das ist mal ein Display - Riesiger Multitouch #nafb #displays #touch
soehlschlaeger 1 year ago
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sherrifster 1 year ago
Ff vraagje aan de ontwerpers van dit supercoole scherm....WAAROM WINDOWS!!! ER ZIJN VEEL MEER MOGELIJKHEDEN MET OSX OF IN IEDERGEVAL IETS LINUX-BASED!
sherrifster 1 year ago
@sherrifster because it also does linux ;-) However when we use windows, only one pc is driving the screen with only one graphics card. That's a lot easier on the standard demos.
We use linux to drive the system in 3D active stereo mode, with one pc and one graphics card per projector. Gives a lot more graphics power. In that mode there is one master pc connected to the six slaves. The master pc receives the touch events.
1LLUS 1 year ago
Beetje groot doen.
richardburns1560 1 year ago
0:34 is the best part.
dutchleader 1 year ago
wow, ...
Can you buy it?
CoolstartGO 1 year ago
@CoolstartGO Yes, check armadavision for similar screens
ArmadaVision 1 year ago
Around 0:58 you can see that the screen is transparent
Rvanlaak 1 year ago
Wow, connect a Kinect controller to it and you got yourself a real world CSI Las Vegas screen :-)
philos31 1 year ago 2