There are 2 things that still annoy me about Veron's time in Old Trafford. We bought a world superstar and asked him to play in a position requiring speed he didn't and would never have. He was made for 4-3-3. Then our supporters started to believe the "flop" tags written by lazy football journalists who needed something to say. He's a temperamental bloke and it really upset him when fans thought he was a flop. Utd supporters should stick up for their players.
@ordoabciao times havn't changed.. just listen to the people on the manutd forum complain about carrick, fletcher, park etc. quality players who are deemed useless by their own supporters.
@mattos000 I don't complain about Fletcher or Park who are superb but I complain about Carrick because he has got superb technical ability, yet seems to have as much confidence as you would expect had he been locked away by Fritzl himself for the past 5 years. Just looks devoid of confidence and character and his play reflects that.
@iloveneytiri but then how is complaining about his lack of confidence going to give carrick confidence? if all he ever reads or hears is that hes shit, i dont think his morale will lift. and his performances improved after he signed that new contract, so why is everyone still on his back?
Quite fun reading all the press coverage from the time nearly a decade on. So many pundits said there was no chance of failure (one guy on the BBC said Veron's style was "made for the Premiership") and United would easily romp to the title now they had the 'new Cantona'.
@kenneth12345J - sorry mate, was 13 at the time and was seriously moved by the fact Man Utd signed an Argentine ! lol i regret it now! but it matched the mood at the time! too young to really understand! wish i cold change it now, but i cant find the original to edit!
i agree he came at the wrong time. fergie replaced jaap stam with laurent blanc which was a bad move. united just couldnt defend. conceded 10 goals in first 6 games + fergie changed the entire team shape + he and scholes were too similar (gerrard/lampard?) scholes was in peak. keane was captain.
He just came to United at a bad time. In Giggs, Scholes, Keane and Becks; we had the best midfield in Europe. There was no room for Seba. In 00/01 we desperately needed a defender. Instead we bought an attacking midfielder. How could SAF drop a peaking Scholes for Veron? Instead he tried to shoehorn Seba into the midfield by playing Scholes out on the left/behind Ruud or put Veron on the right and drop Becks. It didn't work. But when Seba was played in the centre he was nearly always immense.
its not that he was a flop. he came into a team with a prime scholes and keane. was a case of bad timing. our current midfield need a player like him badly now.
Veron was improving and was a huge factor in us winning the league back. Shouldn't have sold him purely on the fact we won fuck all the year after we sold him.
First United fans weren't harsh on Seba. I've not met one United fan who doesn't wish it had have worked out. He should have spent the best years of his career at United
But - he struggled to adapt to the pace in the premiership AND he found it difficult playing with keane because they both need to dominate
Honestly, I was heartbroken when we sold him as he SHOULD have been Uniteds Zidane but we wish him well and remember him fondly
Veron is now in Estudiantes de La Plata, in 3 years he won the championship, the libertadores cup and now he is going to defeat barcelona in dubai, to be the world club champion!
The English media were unfair on Veron, but to say Man Utd fans didn't like him is wrong. He was loved by Utd fans, and we were all sad to see him leave. We could do with a player like Veron right now. He is simply one of the best there is.
Veron is the type of player that has only recently started to be appreciated in this country.
He wasn't a tough tackler like Keane or a 20 goal a season man like Scholes. He basiclly did a similar job as what Carrick does now i.e recive the ball from the defence look up and pass to the attackers.
Accrpss Europe thoes player are invaluable to their teams (Xavi and Pirlo are 2 that come to mind)
It's only in the past 2 or 3 season that thoese type of players have statred to get some praise.
Anyone who says Veron was a flop has never seen a ball. So talking football is out of the equation. U don't waste time telling people about known facts- JUAN VERON is one of the best ever players to have kicked a ball,arguably in the top 20 all time best. Ask Maradona why he had to recall Veron...
Veron was the best argentine player since maradona. Only Messi overpass him. Today I think he is in the 10 best players all round the world with 33 years.
i was gutted the day we sold Veron..the day before in a pre season game he had played one of the best passes i have ever seen. He needed another season but just wasnt compatible with the midfielders we had, especially Keane. He never really got the chance to shine and play his best position..dont understand why sir alex ever spent that sort of money on a player he never really gave a big chance
Veron scored some cracking goals for united, his passing was second to none. He was just to slow for the prem. Overall he did quite good. The 01-02 season was strange season for us, we had to contend with a different shape to the team, attacking wise we were brilliant that season. We couldn't defend though. In 02-03 fergie reverted back to the original shape with solsjaer and van nistelrooy and we won the league. Veron was south American player of the year last year at age 33!!
fucking english hypocrites! buy argentine players for their league and talk how shit and cheat the argentine football team is. give back tevez and mascherano you pussies!
juan sebastian veron was a terrific player for manchester united. It was just that united at the time was not good enough especially roy keane, laurent blanc, and mikael silvestre. The main problem was united could not accomodate scholes and veron in the midfield.
@azazin1989 - A midfield player who is all-rounded: he can tackle, pass, shoot, provides attacking options and defensive cover. Keane before he has that hip injury, you constantly see him up front during attacks, and back defending. Gerrard is a box-to-box. Scholes was at his prime, but now he lacks the stamina to do so.
Problem was that we had too many static/slow midfielders/players in general during that period. I mean with beckham (whom after his injury was not good cept for his free kicks), Ruud (couldnt do anything besides score goals), Blanc, etc; by adding Veron who lacked the physical strength to create the space necessary for his style to be successful, only spelt disaster for us during that time period.
he wasnt a flop but he didnt quite live up to his reputation and justify his price tag. his two years at man utd were much better than his year at chelsea though.
Verón tiene una pegada, un panorama y un control de pelota increibles, por eso puede seguir jugando en gran nivel aunque físicamente no está de la mejor manera. Ojalá tenga en la selección la revancha que no le dio el amargo de Pekerman cuando Verón estaba en su mejor momento. Acaba de ser elegido el mejor jugador de américa
Everytime I read an article on Juan Sebastian Veron and his time at Old Trafford it's always the same bullshit, he had brief moments of glory but never really lived up to expectations, struggled with adapting to the English style blah blah blah etc etc... But funnily enough, everytime I speak with a United fan or any English person for that matter, they hold Seba in such high regards. The general consensus is that Seba formed part of a near perfect team and simply did his job at Utd.
We hold him in high regard because he comes across as a great guy. No one questioned his ability - but he didn't live up to expectations. If he did he'd have won world playert of the year at United as he had the ability
But United fans recognize class and that is why most fans won't say anything bad about it. Most are just disappointed it didn't work out. If it had, we would not have sold him obviously...
I´m argentine and I estudiantes´s fan. Juan Sebastian Veron is the best player!!! Thanks for your video, and sorry for my poor inglish. heare I say "aguante la bruja" (go veron)
i thought he was good.
MMLs27 1 week ago
what is music?
awaroll 1 month ago
02-03 seasson : Barthez;G.Neville,Ferdinand,Silvestre,O'shea;Keane,Veron;Beckham,Scholes,Giggs;Van Nistelrooy...EPL champions..
kaqio 5 months ago
There are 2 things that still annoy me about Veron's time in Old Trafford. We bought a world superstar and asked him to play in a position requiring speed he didn't and would never have. He was made for 4-3-3. Then our supporters started to believe the "flop" tags written by lazy football journalists who needed something to say. He's a temperamental bloke and it really upset him when fans thought he was a flop. Utd supporters should stick up for their players.
ordoabciao 7 months ago
@ordoabciao times havn't changed.. just listen to the people on the manutd forum complain about carrick, fletcher, park etc. quality players who are deemed useless by their own supporters.
then again most of those supporters are clowns.
mattos000 6 months ago
@mattos000 I don't complain about Fletcher or Park who are superb but I complain about Carrick because he has got superb technical ability, yet seems to have as much confidence as you would expect had he been locked away by Fritzl himself for the past 5 years. Just looks devoid of confidence and character and his play reflects that.
iloveneytiri 4 months ago
@iloveneytiri but then how is complaining about his lack of confidence going to give carrick confidence? if all he ever reads or hears is that hes shit, i dont think his morale will lift. and his performances improved after he signed that new contract, so why is everyone still on his back?
mattos000 4 months ago
Veron would of taken the piss in the 4-3-3 after Keano left and Scholes reverted to a deeper role.
Veron Scholes Carrick with Rooney Ronaldo and Giggs ahead of them interchanging. We could do with him now.
markushollywood 7 months ago
there was never a doubt about his talent. It was just that he failed to produce such performances on consistent enough basis.
putyie89 8 months ago
He's exactly the type of player United need now!
MrRyandunny 10 months ago 3
this good video
707thetiger 11 months ago
Quite fun reading all the press coverage from the time nearly a decade on. So many pundits said there was no chance of failure (one guy on the BBC said Veron's style was "made for the Premiership") and United would easily romp to the title now they had the 'new Cantona'.
kisbie 1 year ago
fail on the music
kenneth12345J 1 year ago 16
@kenneth12345J - sorry mate, was 13 at the time and was seriously moved by the fact Man Utd signed an Argentine ! lol i regret it now! but it matched the mood at the time! too young to really understand! wish i cold change it now, but i cant find the original to edit!
addynas 1 year ago 3
que jugador!!!! un fenomenoo!!!
palalo102008 1 year ago
i agree he came at the wrong time. fergie replaced jaap stam with laurent blanc which was a bad move. united just couldnt defend. conceded 10 goals in first 6 games + fergie changed the entire team shape + he and scholes were too similar (gerrard/lampard?) scholes was in peak. keane was captain.
madfootypurist 1 year ago
He just came to United at a bad time. In Giggs, Scholes, Keane and Becks; we had the best midfield in Europe. There was no room for Seba. In 00/01 we desperately needed a defender. Instead we bought an attacking midfielder. How could SAF drop a peaking Scholes for Veron? Instead he tried to shoehorn Seba into the midfield by playing Scholes out on the left/behind Ruud or put Veron on the right and drop Becks. It didn't work. But when Seba was played in the centre he was nearly always immense.
Rajplayer 1 year ago 3
He's still a brilliant player, too bad he couldn't cut it at United
hejh0pp 1 year ago
Veron was one of the best passers that manchester united ever had.Too bad they sold him too fast to chelsea.
frenchguy09 1 year ago
its not that he was a flop. he came into a team with a prime scholes and keane. was a case of bad timing. our current midfield need a player like him badly now.
lnfantasy11 2 years ago 3
HAHAHAHAHA. Cute.
granofuru 2 years ago
In his prime, Veron was one of the greatest ever passers of the ball. True he had a few bad games but he was brilliant on his day.
Smiffyalltheway 2 years ago 6
Veron was improving and was a huge factor in us winning the league back. Shouldn't have sold him purely on the fact we won fuck all the year after we sold him.
Gurjitsd07 2 years ago 4
veron es el maximo idolo de Estudiantes de La Plata!!!!!!!
9pincha 2 years ago 5
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y el maximo vende patria d la Argentina!!!!!!
carlitoxjejee 2 years ago
por qué no decís lo mismo de Tevez???
klichemon 2 years ago
heart0420
Your wrong about a few things.
First United fans weren't harsh on Seba. I've not met one United fan who doesn't wish it had have worked out. He should have spent the best years of his career at United
But - he struggled to adapt to the pace in the premiership AND he found it difficult playing with keane because they both need to dominate
Honestly, I was heartbroken when we sold him as he SHOULD have been Uniteds Zidane but we wish him well and remember him fondly
Jakker27 2 years ago 2
Veron is now in Estudiantes de La Plata, in 3 years he won the championship, the libertadores cup and now he is going to defeat barcelona in dubai, to be the world club champion!
sirviejo 2 years ago 3
The English media were unfair on Veron, but to say Man Utd fans didn't like him is wrong. He was loved by Utd fans, and we were all sad to see him leave. We could do with a player like Veron right now. He is simply one of the best there is.
anthonydoh 2 years ago 4
Veron is the type of player that has only recently started to be appreciated in this country.
He wasn't a tough tackler like Keane or a 20 goal a season man like Scholes. He basiclly did a similar job as what Carrick does now i.e recive the ball from the defence look up and pass to the attackers.
Accrpss Europe thoes player are invaluable to their teams (Xavi and Pirlo are 2 that come to mind)
It's only in the past 2 or 3 season that thoese type of players have statred to get some praise.
huweybaby 2 years ago
only proberly a flop in premier league but no way in champions league when you have more time to play!
abdul8malik 2 years ago
Anyone who says Veron was a flop has never seen a ball. So talking football is out of the equation. U don't waste time telling people about known facts- JUAN VERON is one of the best ever players to have kicked a ball,arguably in the top 20 all time best. Ask Maradona why he had to recall Veron...
spliffveron 2 years ago 4
I agree 100%...
Veron was the best argentine player since maradona. Only Messi overpass him. Today I think he is in the 10 best players all round the world with 33 years.
palermo1984 2 years ago 3
exactly
Risaddum 2 years ago
aguante argentina
paloma03rnt 2 years ago
i was gutted the day we sold Veron..the day before in a pre season game he had played one of the best passes i have ever seen. He needed another season but just wasnt compatible with the midfielders we had, especially Keane. He never really got the chance to shine and play his best position..dont understand why sir alex ever spent that sort of money on a player he never really gave a big chance
badgerwolf 2 years ago 3
berbatov waste
davidublin 2 years ago
yup
he was a big player at spurs as he was the the best player there
but at manutd he isnt a big player. he cant play with manutd
TucoZizou 2 years ago
why so? he has best stats of all united players? are you guys idiots or just city fans?
Enegyxo 2 years ago
Veron scored some cracking goals for united, his passing was second to none. He was just to slow for the prem. Overall he did quite good. The 01-02 season was strange season for us, we had to contend with a different shape to the team, attacking wise we were brilliant that season. We couldn't defend though. In 02-03 fergie reverted back to the original shape with solsjaer and van nistelrooy and we won the league. Veron was south American player of the year last year at age 33!!
Kallytom 2 years ago 17
There was never any doubting his quality, just never delivered consistently
JoeBortz19 2 years ago
Veron= United legend
C45Auto 2 years ago 7
fucking english hypocrites! buy argentine players for their league and talk how shit and cheat the argentine football team is. give back tevez and mascherano you pussies!
PrettyPiZZAface 2 years ago
solo una cosa mas te pido bruja, despues de darnos tanto...solo una mas, hasta el 2010...no te vayas.
Please Bruja, dont leave, 2010 is here!
morel18 2 years ago 2
juan sebastian veron was a terrific player for manchester united. It was just that united at the time was not good enough especially roy keane, laurent blanc, and mikael silvestre. The main problem was united could not accomodate scholes and veron in the midfield.
Hattasaki56 2 years ago 2
Hattasaki56
Keane was one of the best box to box midfielders of his generation. He could have got more goals but none the less he was absolute quality.
Jakker27 2 years ago
what box to box means?
azazin1989 2 years ago
it means a player who will run from one side of the pitch to the other. not the best way to explain, but you get the idea
acemanger1 2 years ago
@azazin1989 - A midfield player who is all-rounded: he can tackle, pass, shoot, provides attacking options and defensive cover. Keane before he has that hip injury, you constantly see him up front during attacks, and back defending. Gerrard is a box-to-box. Scholes was at his prime, but now he lacks the stamina to do so.
bryanleeyf87 1 year ago
Problem was that we had too many static/slow midfielders/players in general during that period. I mean with beckham (whom after his injury was not good cept for his free kicks), Ruud (couldnt do anything besides score goals), Blanc, etc; by adding Veron who lacked the physical strength to create the space necessary for his style to be successful, only spelt disaster for us during that time period.
engared 2 years ago
I always loved that little bit of skill at 1:52
insangpa87 2 years ago
he wasnt a flop but he didnt quite live up to his reputation and justify his price tag. his two years at man utd were much better than his year at chelsea though.
kizoekid 3 years ago 2
Verón tiene una pegada, un panorama y un control de pelota increibles, por eso puede seguir jugando en gran nivel aunque físicamente no está de la mejor manera. Ojalá tenga en la selección la revancha que no le dio el amargo de Pekerman cuando Verón estaba en su mejor momento. Acaba de ser elegido el mejor jugador de américa
esteesvalido 3 years ago 4
HE PLAYS FOR ESTUDIANTES DE LA PLATA in Argentina he was and still is a fucking great player
pjaymacg 3 years ago 2
Everytime I read an article on Juan Sebastian Veron and his time at Old Trafford it's always the same bullshit, he had brief moments of glory but never really lived up to expectations, struggled with adapting to the English style blah blah blah etc etc... But funnily enough, everytime I speak with a United fan or any English person for that matter, they hold Seba in such high regards. The general consensus is that Seba formed part of a near perfect team and simply did his job at Utd.
yakamon123 3 years ago
exactly. in fact his second season in manutd was a good one. injuries was a big problem though.
the best midfield in his generation.
lookluk 3 years ago
yakamon123
We hold him in high regard because he comes across as a great guy. No one questioned his ability - but he didn't live up to expectations. If he did he'd have won world playert of the year at United as he had the ability
But United fans recognize class and that is why most fans won't say anything bad about it. Most are just disappointed it didn't work out. If it had, we would not have sold him obviously...
Jakker27 2 years ago 2
damn fuckin true brotha ;)
azazin1989 2 years ago
he still plays for agentina last time i checked,
blunty1 3 years ago
he made so many assist at world cup 98 until ortega out of his mind.
Megadeth72 3 years ago
yes veron was argentinas best in 1998, every attack was created by him. i still can't believe they lost to holland.
PrettyPiZZAface 2 years ago 7
@PrettyPiZZAface holland were a lot better then and they did finish 4th but veron is still good
ramtin97 1 year ago
We had joy,
We had fun,
Juan Sebastian Veron,
And the joy will never end ,
'Cos Juan will skin them once again!
pontyboy10 3 years ago 3
I´m argentine and I estudiantes´s fan. Juan Sebastian Veron is the best player!!! Thanks for your video, and sorry for my poor inglish. heare I say "aguante la bruja" (go veron)
zucaritem 3 years ago 4
like this video:)
aleckzz 3 years ago
NIce
SaQoProductions 3 years ago