A christian calling a mormonism a cult is a hypocrit, religion is for the intellectually debased and no longer relevant to the modern world, if anything stalling social and technological advances which would actually help society.. rather than praying ;)
LOL, Historians trace the earliest Baptist church back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor. HOW IS THIS ANCIENT HISTORICAL CHRISTIANITY!?!?!!? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints practices ancient Christianity that was practice by the earliest Christian Fathers in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD!!! The LDS church has Priests, Bishops, Apostles, and a Profit - in other words the true organization of ancient Christianity!!
jesus was never in the americas or in south america and mexicans/latinos or south american indians never ever spoke hebrew and all that info about jesus visted mississippi and Eden is is Jackson county mosouri is so much fiction and ZERO squat evidence to back their claim up of course mormons reply is --so what just have faith HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHa
The decades that followed Luther's declaration were filled with bloodshed and violence, all in the name of Roman Catholocism vs Christianity.
Here's another, the Spanish Conquistadors were here to spread the gospel - and decimated the population of Central and South America with violence, destruction, and pestilence
remember that your precious Christ was scene as a cultist in his day, and for centuries after BC
From the Book of Mormon, which Mormons call "the truest book on earth":
"[God] had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing... For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him... wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people..." (2 Nephi 5:21)
@iqlusionblogspot Why don't you actually read the book instead of quoting it out of context thus LYING about what it's actually saying??? Those "skin of blackness" people in the BOM actually ended up being the HEROS of the BOM, the RIGHTEOUS of the BOM, while the white people ended up being the wicked. Bigoted Moron!
I read the Book of Mormon in seminary, in two classes at BYU and in two different languages while I was a missionary. I also taught out of the Book of Mormon in numerous Sunday School classes.
So what's troubling you? Do you think the Book of Mormon is perfect?
@iqlusionblogspot Nope, but I think you're not. I don't get "racism" from the BOM at all when I read it, because I read it in context & spiritual understanding. I know racism well. Watched every movie on the subject, read books, etc. I even left the Church myself & was anti-mormon & anti-religion because I ignorantly assumed that simply because the priesthood ban existed that the Church couldn't be true. But, I was ignorant of the ban itself, the Church, scripture, & history as you are.
While defending the LDS Church, you said: "Bigoted Moron!" and "[I've] watched every movie on the subject [i.e., racism]" and "I was ignorant of the ban itself, the Church, scripture, & history as you are."
@iqlusionblogspot How is my credibility harmed? I kept learning.... You don't know how to, loving your ignorance and bigotry instead. A wise person knows how to admit his mistakes and to step outside of his box to understand things he may not understand. What's your malfunction?
You've passed the test! Please, please, please, keep posting in defense of Mormonism with comments just like this. No matter what anyone says, don't hold back on how you really feel.
I've gotta go, but I wish you the best as you keep building up Zion!
As for the “facts” concerning Mormon’s oppression of blacks, you should look up Marvin Perkins who wrote a fantastic book about the subject. I think the prominent point he made was about Mormons being the only organization in the history of the United States to have an execution order placed on them for their faith with the reason being they were going to free the slaves. How dare they! Those racists!
What's wrong with the results? Obama may not have done everything he said he would do, but he got things done. Osama Bin Laden? Dead. War on terror? Over. He is a heck of a lot better than the last retard we had in office.
did they just say "obama is a christian"??? :O Obama is an islamic cult fanatic. He forces his daughters to watch the disney movie Allahdin every morning.
1rst Amendment of the Constitution of the United States:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
@BeingLiberal101 Better learn how to spell. And yes, although I am registered a Democrat- Obama is NOT one of them. Neither is Clinton, or Biden or Boxer or Feinstein. The Same could be said of so called Republicans. Screw them both- Liberal Socialist and Freaking Puppet Moderates.
who cares about religious background anyway. and besides that, our current president doesnt exactly have the most happy and smiley religious background himself..
@DaytonaRoadster Hope you don't vote because you got Ron Paul mixed up with someone else. He is none of those things and he rocks, but troll on misinformed hat-er.
Al Gore just announced he worships the earth, which makes him a witch, which I suppose makes him a "right winger", religiouse fanatic. He will be running as a Republican right along next to Romney and Perry.
@johnnyreality lmao youre an idiot, 1st off atheism isnt a religion u tard, i myself am an individualist & the only reason its growing is because people are waking up after they see what u religious freaks have & are doing to the world............
@jetbtkng Atheism is a religion because it follows beliefs blindly.
Atheists believe "nothing happens" when you die. Being scientific means not taking guesses. No one has ever come back from the dead. Never. To say nothing happens, or to say that you go to heaven is just as valid as saying you end up in a Pink Panther Cartoon, because no one knows. Saying one does not know is the only logical scientific conclusion that any non-religious scientific person can arrive to (i.e. ME).
@johnnyreality your an idiot, Atheism is not a religion, its is the absence of religion. Saying nothing happens after death is not a belief based on faith, like religion says, its based on lack of knowledge, no one knows what happens after death, Atheist just admit and acknowledge that no one know, Christians make shit up about the 'afterlife' based on nothing but what they pulled out of their ass
@johnnyreality no, i got it right, you are still a fucking retard. Agnostics say they dont know if God exists, Atheists say he doesnt, neither say anything about the afterlife...like i said, you're a fucking retard who had to resort to grammar nazism (because we all know how much christians love their buddies the nazis) to try and make a point, and failed miserably at it
@DaytonaRoadster I am not Christian! What a dick, have you read anything I wrote?
Atheists believe "nothing happens" when you die. Being scientific means not taking guesses. No one has ever come back from the dead. Never. To say nothing happens, or to say that you go to heaven is just as valid as saying you end up in a Pink Panther Cartoon, because no one knows. Saying one does not know is the only logical scientific conclusion that any non-religious scientific person can arrive to (i.e. ME).
"A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal god or AFTERLIFE was at an all-time low among the members of the U.S."
@johnnyreality lol anyone with a basic education knows more than wikiepdia, they know to use original sources, not shit made up by and posted by anyone.. Nice try child, its ok, one you get out of middle school, you can learn about real life
@johnnyreality again your an idiot, atheism is not a religion, your anology that its followoing blindly is rediculous, im not following anything because theres nothing to follow unlike a religious freak who believes & follows an imaginary invisible man, & i know theres no god, u know how i know this, i have a brain & unlike religious freaks i use it............
@johnnyreality I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone with a NEGATIVE IQ, but you may be the first. I know EXACTLY what happens when a person dies, they're consumed by the earth and feed the next group of creatures, kinda like what happened to the cows that BK cooked for you, you moron.
I don't believe in fairies, I'm guessing you don't either, BINGO, we share a fucking religion according to your RETARDED ASS. How the fuck is sharing a NON-BELIEF a fucking religion?
@Rushtrdamus what about the conscience? ("I think therefore I am" Descartes). What happens to that?
Quoting Wikipedia for "Atheism".
"A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal god or AFTERLIFE was at an all-time low among the members of the U.S."
Atheists believe there is no afterlife with absolutely no proof whatsoever. They're making shit up.
This will also be Obama's strategy in the general election -- the whole Mormonism is a cult meme. Meanwhile, Obama sat in a church for twenty years that taught its parishioners that the Black Jeebus was lynched by garlic-nosed whiteys at the behest of the Jews.
I've studied the history of Joseph Smith and Mormonism in depth and IMO it is a farce, completely made up by Smith. Having said that, Mormons are good people...lost sheep looking for the right path and practicing good deeds...isn't that what really matters? Religious sects weigh not one jot in the eyes of our creator...it's what is in the heart that matters! Perry is an asp!
@NarlepoaxIII You can thank wikipedia for this! "Mormon leaders beginning with Brigham Young instituted a policy of excluding most people of black African descent (regardless of actual skin color) from Priesthood ordination and from participation in temple ceremonies. These practices continued in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) until September 30, 1978, when the highest bodies of church leadership lifted the ban after stating they had received a revelation." Close.
As handy as Wikipedia is, you must take everything you see on it with a grain of salt. Don't take it from a non-member, take it from me; we have nothing against blacks.
@ubtri You might do well to get informed, rather than believing the rumor mill. Mormonism had nothing against "blacks". Blacks and whites worshiped together in mormonism, several of the mob expulsions in the Churches early days was because of it's Abolitionist beliefs, etc. As the Priesthood ban, mormons aren't sexist because women aren't officially given the Priesthood, nor were mormons racist because those of "African" lineage, including whites weren't given the Priesthood.
@ubtri "Blacks" were not denied the Priesthood, those of African lineage were, including whites. Blacks of the Islands, Central/South America, India, and all other races WERE given the Priesthood. The ban had nothing to do with racism any more than Christ not giving the Gospel to non-Jews prior to his death and it taking Peter getting a revelation to do it, or in Moses's time only the "Levite" Lineage only be given the Priesthood.
@ubtri If racism had anything to do with the ban, it is clear historically it was because of the racism in the world against the African black. Which by the way mostly ended the exact same time the ban ended. Coincidence? Nope. The Priesthood does not operate under compulsion and evil. While the black African was still under the effects of slavery, racism, intolerance etc., that's not a place for God's Holy Order and Authority. The LDS Church ALWAYS taught against racism & intolerance.
@ubtri Further, if you knew history, you would know that JFK pre-1978 wouldn't have thought well of the Church, nor would have the author of the book and movie "Roots", going to Utah and accepting an award from the Church, if the Church was actually "racist" in it's policy. Those who think the Church was/is racist, are ignorant bigots themselves.
@leeuniverse So, because of such facts found on wikipedia regarding mormonism and their oppression of black people all the way up until 1978, you're saying I'm ignorant for those facts? You are dumb. Facts are just that.
@ubtri Mormonism never had a "opposition to black people", that is a damned lie. Unless you are going to sit there like a moron and also say we have an opposition to women, correct yourself buddy. Further, you ever heard the saying of using a little truth or "fact" to tell great lies? You do know evil uses truth to lie don't you? Facts are not simply facts, it's how they are used, and what facts are given and omitted whether you are getting the actual truth or not.
@leeuniverse wow, so aside from you completely denying facts, you are now saying facts are evil? you're one stupid mother fucker. I bet dinosaur fossils were put here by the devil to test us? You're a mormon arent you? and you are obviously extremely blinded by your religion and to facts.
@ubtri What "facts" am I denying jerkwad.....? You haven't indicated any facts, and I haven't denied any facts. So please stop confusing your ignorant bigotry fantasy's of others with me actually denying "facts". I'm a convert to the LDS Church, and I even left it and was anti-mormon and anti-religion primarily because of the Priesthood ban and Polygamy. I'm an "expert" on those subjects, so please spare me that YOU have the facts and I'm a denier of facts.
@leeuniverse BTW how can evil use truth to lie? You would have to believe evil existed.. but If I did that, I wouldn;t be an atheist would I??? Asshole...
@ubtri Sad thing is you can have a candidate who is well educated, charming, a war hero, a family man, handsome, well spoken, loved by foreign dignitaries, and who governed a state to extreme prosperity as a candidate for President and he would still lose to someone less qualified simply because he's an athiest. I hate religion.
Mormonism-Scientology are all CULTS. Stupid, stupid stupid Americans who buy into such things will be proven wrong by Christians.
Jantv81 1 week ago
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11harrij 3 weeks ago
Mitt Romney is boring!
hogsandsooners 1 month ago
A christian calling a mormonism a cult is a hypocrit, religion is for the intellectually debased and no longer relevant to the modern world, if anything stalling social and technological advances which would actually help society.. rather than praying ;)
PdishmonkeyJJ 4 months ago
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LOL, Historians trace the earliest Baptist church back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor. HOW IS THIS ANCIENT HISTORICAL CHRISTIANITY!?!?!!? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints practices ancient Christianity that was practice by the earliest Christian Fathers in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD!!! The LDS church has Priests, Bishops, Apostles, and a Profit - in other words the true organization of ancient Christianity!!
EscapeNewJersey 4 months ago
@MrMitchy24
And Jesus was a pole vaulter and an olympic runner too! im more of a fan than you so that makes you a liar
inachu 4 months ago
jesus was never in the americas or in south america and mexicans/latinos or south american indians never ever spoke hebrew and all that info about jesus visted mississippi and Eden is is Jackson county mosouri is so much fiction and ZERO squat evidence to back their claim up of course mormons reply is --so what just have faith HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHa
inachu 4 months ago
@MrMitchy24
some examples out of countless
The decades that followed Luther's declaration were filled with bloodshed and violence, all in the name of Roman Catholocism vs Christianity.
Here's another, the Spanish Conquistadors were here to spread the gospel - and decimated the population of Central and South America with violence, destruction, and pestilence
remember that your precious Christ was scene as a cultist in his day, and for centuries after BC
ieodksnw787 4 months ago
From the Book of Mormon, which Mormons call "the truest book on earth":
"[God] had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing... For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him... wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people..." (2 Nephi 5:21)
iqlusionblogspot 4 months ago
@iqlusionblogspot Why don't you actually read the book instead of quoting it out of context thus LYING about what it's actually saying??? Those "skin of blackness" people in the BOM actually ended up being the HEROS of the BOM, the RIGHTEOUS of the BOM, while the white people ended up being the wicked. Bigoted Moron!
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse
I read the Book of Mormon in seminary, in two classes at BYU and in two different languages while I was a missionary. I also taught out of the Book of Mormon in numerous Sunday School classes.
So what's troubling you? Do you think the Book of Mormon is perfect?
iqlusionblogspot 4 months ago
@iqlusionblogspot Nope, but I think you're not. I don't get "racism" from the BOM at all when I read it, because I read it in context & spiritual understanding. I know racism well. Watched every movie on the subject, read books, etc. I even left the Church myself & was anti-mormon & anti-religion because I ignorantly assumed that simply because the priesthood ban existed that the Church couldn't be true. But, I was ignorant of the ban itself, the Church, scripture, & history as you are.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse
While defending the LDS Church, you said: "Bigoted Moron!" and "[I've] watched every movie on the subject [i.e., racism]" and "I was ignorant of the ban itself, the Church, scripture, & history as you are."
There goes your credibility. Good luck to you.
iqlusionblogspot 4 months ago
@iqlusionblogspot How is my credibility harmed? I kept learning.... You don't know how to, loving your ignorance and bigotry instead. A wise person knows how to admit his mistakes and to step outside of his box to understand things he may not understand. What's your malfunction?
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse
You've passed the test! Please, please, please, keep posting in defense of Mormonism with comments just like this. No matter what anyone says, don't hold back on how you really feel.
I've gotta go, but I wish you the best as you keep building up Zion!
iqlusionblogspot 3 months ago
As for the “facts” concerning Mormon’s oppression of blacks, you should look up Marvin Perkins who wrote a fantastic book about the subject. I think the prominent point he made was about Mormons being the only organization in the history of the United States to have an execution order placed on them for their faith with the reason being they were going to free the slaves. How dare they! Those racists!
7676Blahblahblah 4 months ago
@AnAmericanThinker
What's wrong with the results? Obama may not have done everything he said he would do, but he got things done. Osama Bin Laden? Dead. War on terror? Over. He is a heck of a lot better than the last retard we had in office.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
@Traypacn
Mormons don't believe in cannibalism. We don't believe that St. Paul practiced it either.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
Mormons have not caused nearly as much grief throughout the world as Christians.
Fact.
ieodksnw787 4 months ago
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Get religion out of politics ! God this will brainwash most Christians. Ron Paul 2012 !
INOVATION27 4 months ago
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INOVATION27 4 months ago
I love the crazies fighting over who's make-believe guy in the sky is real.
willdrake1 4 months ago
Well, I'm a Jedi Knight.
My religion is "The Force"...a long time ago...
My Vote goes to...SAMUEL L. JACKSON!
hikonejo 4 months ago
@hikonejo Actually Jedi IS a real religion in several countries. Very Ironic.
Rushtrdamus 4 months ago
did they just say "obama is a christian"??? :O Obama is an islamic cult fanatic. He forces his daughters to watch the disney movie Allahdin every morning.
flowerpuff2001 4 months ago
baptists are a cult also
just sayin
aldernagon3 4 months ago
WHERE THE F ARE RON PAUL'S VIEWS CBS!!!!!!
OptimusPrimalify 4 months ago 3
1rst Amendment of the Constitution of the United States:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
wisku88keneda 4 months ago
I am done with the Democrates... Obama is a joke... I am voting for Ron Paul in 2012!!!
BeingLiberal101 4 months ago 4
@BeingLiberal101 Better learn how to spell. And yes, although I am registered a Democrat- Obama is NOT one of them. Neither is Clinton, or Biden or Boxer or Feinstein. The Same could be said of so called Republicans. Screw them both- Liberal Socialist and Freaking Puppet Moderates.
Jantv81 1 week ago
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"and... here. we. go"
DanielH3342 4 months ago
DOWN WITH ISRAEL!!!
TrollMCTrollinMAKKY 4 months ago
who cares about religious background anyway. and besides that, our current president doesnt exactly have the most happy and smiley religious background himself..
bigalhorse1 4 months ago
@XPsychoBurgundyX right on
johnnyreality 4 months ago
As a Mormon. Me and my 4 wives are disappointed with Perry's insignificant retardation.
TrollMCTrollinMAKKY 4 months ago
It doesn't matter the people want Ron Paul for our Prez. Stop playing up all these other puppets and start covering the truth.
BrokenSentence 4 months ago
@BrokenSentence no they dont want a racist xenophobic tin foil hat-er as president, ron paul sucks cocks
DaytonaRoadster 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster Hope you don't vote because you got Ron Paul mixed up with someone else. He is none of those things and he rocks, but troll on misinformed hat-er.
BrokenSentence 4 months ago
Al Gore just announced he worships the earth, which makes him a witch, which I suppose makes him a "right winger", religiouse fanatic. He will be running as a Republican right along next to Romney and Perry.
dlucas90 4 months ago
Well, this keeps the sheep's mind off the real issues.
wvajim 4 months ago
@wvajim right
johnnyreality 4 months ago
all religion is a cult period, what a bunch of brainwashed fools & hypocrites........
jetbtkng 4 months ago
@jetbtkng Atheists are one of the most fundamental religious groups out there today, and they're the fastest growing one.
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@johnnyreality lmao youre an idiot, 1st off atheism isnt a religion u tard, i myself am an individualist & the only reason its growing is because people are waking up after they see what u religious freaks have & are doing to the world............
jetbtkng 4 months ago
@jetbtkng Atheism is a religion because it follows beliefs blindly.
Atheists believe "nothing happens" when you die. Being scientific means not taking guesses. No one has ever come back from the dead. Never. To say nothing happens, or to say that you go to heaven is just as valid as saying you end up in a Pink Panther Cartoon, because no one knows. Saying one does not know is the only logical scientific conclusion that any non-religious scientific person can arrive to (i.e. ME).
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@johnnyreality your an idiot, Atheism is not a religion, its is the absence of religion. Saying nothing happens after death is not a belief based on faith, like religion says, its based on lack of knowledge, no one knows what happens after death, Atheist just admit and acknowledge that no one know, Christians make shit up about the 'afterlife' based on nothing but what they pulled out of their ass
DaytonaRoadster 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster first it's you're, not your (that's pretty annoying).
Second, atheists claim nothing happens after you die, it's AGNOSTICS that admit no one knows.
I think somebody else is the idiot here...
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@johnnyreality no, i got it right, you are still a fucking retard. Agnostics say they dont know if God exists, Atheists say he doesnt, neither say anything about the afterlife...like i said, you're a fucking retard who had to resort to grammar nazism (because we all know how much christians love their buddies the nazis) to try and make a point, and failed miserably at it
DaytonaRoadster 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster I am not Christian! What a dick, have you read anything I wrote?
Atheists believe "nothing happens" when you die. Being scientific means not taking guesses. No one has ever come back from the dead. Never. To say nothing happens, or to say that you go to heaven is just as valid as saying you end up in a Pink Panther Cartoon, because no one knows. Saying one does not know is the only logical scientific conclusion that any non-religious scientific person can arrive to (i.e. ME).
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster Quoting Wikipedia for "Atheism".
"A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal god or AFTERLIFE was at an all-time low among the members of the U.S."
I have now proved you're the idiot.
The end.
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@johnnyreality because if its on wikipeida, its 100% true...lol thanks for proving even more what a dumbass you are
DaytonaRoadster 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster ok there. I guess you know more than Wikipedia.
Suuuuuuuuuure...
PWNED.
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@johnnyreality lol anyone with a basic education knows more than wikiepdia, they know to use original sources, not shit made up by and posted by anyone.. Nice try child, its ok, one you get out of middle school, you can learn about real life
DaytonaRoadster 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster it's hard to spell Wikipedia, huh?
johnnyreality 4 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster
wow... don't mean to interject, but you're ignorant.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
@johnnyreality again your an idiot, atheism is not a religion, your anology that its followoing blindly is rediculous, im not following anything because theres nothing to follow unlike a religious freak who believes & follows an imaginary invisible man, & i know theres no god, u know how i know this, i have a brain & unlike religious freaks i use it............
jetbtkng 4 months ago
@jetbtkng
And I know there is a god. It's really hard to try to unconvince someone who has seen and spoken to him.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
@NarlepoaxIII well your the 1st then, lmao.......
jetbtkng 4 months ago
@johnnyreality I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone with a NEGATIVE IQ, but you may be the first. I know EXACTLY what happens when a person dies, they're consumed by the earth and feed the next group of creatures, kinda like what happened to the cows that BK cooked for you, you moron.
I don't believe in fairies, I'm guessing you don't either, BINGO, we share a fucking religion according to your RETARDED ASS. How the fuck is sharing a NON-BELIEF a fucking religion?
WTF????
Rushtrdamus 4 months ago
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@Rushtrdamus what about the conscience? ("I think therefore I am" Descartes). What happens to that?
Quoting Wikipedia for "Atheism".
"A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal god or AFTERLIFE was at an all-time low among the members of the U.S."
Atheists believe there is no afterlife with absolutely no proof whatsoever. They're making shit up.
I have now proved you're the idiot.
PWNED. The end.
johnnyreality 4 months ago
This will also be Obama's strategy in the general election -- the whole Mormonism is a cult meme. Meanwhile, Obama sat in a church for twenty years that taught its parishioners that the Black Jeebus was lynched by garlic-nosed whiteys at the behest of the Jews.
Sorry4DoublePosting 4 months ago
I've studied the history of Joseph Smith and Mormonism in depth and IMO it is a farce, completely made up by Smith. Having said that, Mormons are good people...lost sheep looking for the right path and practicing good deeds...isn't that what really matters? Religious sects weigh not one jot in the eyes of our creator...it's what is in the heart that matters! Perry is an asp!
SpinCage 4 months ago
Can these anchors any get more metrosexual? Where have all the REAL men gone?
1family4me 4 months ago
@achzdck Mormonism is fucked up... 3 levels of heaven, no hell, anyone can be a god except black people.. just as fucked up as all religions!
ubtri 4 months ago
@ubtri
What? Who told you about the black people thing? I don't think you should believe anything they say.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
@NarlepoaxIII You can thank wikipedia for this! "Mormon leaders beginning with Brigham Young instituted a policy of excluding most people of black African descent (regardless of actual skin color) from Priesthood ordination and from participation in temple ceremonies. These practices continued in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) until September 30, 1978, when the highest bodies of church leadership lifted the ban after stating they had received a revelation." Close.
ubtri 4 months ago
@ubtri
As handy as Wikipedia is, you must take everything you see on it with a grain of salt. Don't take it from a non-member, take it from me; we have nothing against blacks.
NarlepoaxIII 4 months ago
@NarlepoaxIII Apparently your institution DID have a problem with blacks all the way up to 1978
ubtri 4 months ago
@ubtri You might do well to get informed, rather than believing the rumor mill. Mormonism had nothing against "blacks". Blacks and whites worshiped together in mormonism, several of the mob expulsions in the Churches early days was because of it's Abolitionist beliefs, etc. As the Priesthood ban, mormons aren't sexist because women aren't officially given the Priesthood, nor were mormons racist because those of "African" lineage, including whites weren't given the Priesthood.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@ubtri "Blacks" were not denied the Priesthood, those of African lineage were, including whites. Blacks of the Islands, Central/South America, India, and all other races WERE given the Priesthood. The ban had nothing to do with racism any more than Christ not giving the Gospel to non-Jews prior to his death and it taking Peter getting a revelation to do it, or in Moses's time only the "Levite" Lineage only be given the Priesthood.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@ubtri If racism had anything to do with the ban, it is clear historically it was because of the racism in the world against the African black. Which by the way mostly ended the exact same time the ban ended. Coincidence? Nope. The Priesthood does not operate under compulsion and evil. While the black African was still under the effects of slavery, racism, intolerance etc., that's not a place for God's Holy Order and Authority. The LDS Church ALWAYS taught against racism & intolerance.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@ubtri Further, if you knew history, you would know that JFK pre-1978 wouldn't have thought well of the Church, nor would have the author of the book and movie "Roots", going to Utah and accepting an award from the Church, if the Church was actually "racist" in it's policy. Those who think the Church was/is racist, are ignorant bigots themselves.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse So, because of such facts found on wikipedia regarding mormonism and their oppression of black people all the way up until 1978, you're saying I'm ignorant for those facts? You are dumb. Facts are just that.
ubtri 4 months ago
@ubtri Mormonism never had a "opposition to black people", that is a damned lie. Unless you are going to sit there like a moron and also say we have an opposition to women, correct yourself buddy. Further, you ever heard the saying of using a little truth or "fact" to tell great lies? You do know evil uses truth to lie don't you? Facts are not simply facts, it's how they are used, and what facts are given and omitted whether you are getting the actual truth or not.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse wow, so aside from you completely denying facts, you are now saying facts are evil? you're one stupid mother fucker. I bet dinosaur fossils were put here by the devil to test us? You're a mormon arent you? and you are obviously extremely blinded by your religion and to facts.
ubtri 4 months ago
@ubtri What "facts" am I denying jerkwad.....? You haven't indicated any facts, and I haven't denied any facts. So please stop confusing your ignorant bigotry fantasy's of others with me actually denying "facts". I'm a convert to the LDS Church, and I even left it and was anti-mormon and anti-religion primarily because of the Priesthood ban and Polygamy. I'm an "expert" on those subjects, so please spare me that YOU have the facts and I'm a denier of facts.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
@leeuniverse To quickly answer your first question, you are denying the fact that mormonism have been racist up until 1978. "jerkwad."
ubtri 4 months ago
@leeuniverse BTW how can evil use truth to lie? You would have to believe evil existed.. but If I did that, I wouldn;t be an atheist would I??? Asshole...
ubtri 4 months ago
@leeuniverse clearly you're a mormon and butthurt about the facts!!!
ubtri 4 months ago
We Want an Atheist Candidate Because Anything Esle IS Illogical. Let's get a candidate who isn't a caveman for a change!
ubtri 4 months ago 7
@ubtri Sad thing is you can have a candidate who is well educated, charming, a war hero, a family man, handsome, well spoken, loved by foreign dignitaries, and who governed a state to extreme prosperity as a candidate for President and he would still lose to someone less qualified simply because he's an athiest. I hate religion.
maximino27 4 months ago