I also like the part where you talk about how Atheism is rising all around the world, yet follow it up by claiming theocracy is on the rise and your movement needs grease for its wheels. So.. which one is it? Anyone with their eyes open can see that religion is on the fall, but it has nothing to do with reason. Most people are atheists because of lies like "Religion has started so many wars", "Evolution disproves God" etc. Very few actually have sound arguments. It's blind theism in reverse.
What do you mean religion was never mentioned in the media with those things!? They read Genesis live from space, and took communion on the Moon. Religion also played a part in the Cold War. Your statistics for atheists in America are also woeful. Where is your 'skepticism and reason' in that? And damn it, your theory that somehow America will fall based on their religious beliefs is a load of crap and shows you know nothing about how that country is run.
I went to school in the 70s. No one ever spoke of religion. I haven't a clue if any of my friends were theists. I can't believe how far backwards we have moved. It's a goddamn shame!
@TheAwesomeMaths If you actually READ the BVG instead of blindly following WLC, you'd realize that it does not prove a finite universe and almost explicitly says so. It sets out to explain that EXPANSION cannot occur infinitely when looking into the past. Think 1-2 and try to picture that negative existing. Multiverses and circular inf/deflations are still very possible.
@haloboz You should read the BVG Theorem. I suggest you check out TheisticThinker's channel on Youtube. He has this covered more that I can do within a 500 word limit.
THIS is supposed to be a powerfully persuasive ad for the the Reason Rally??
Folks, an ad for the Rally would include 1. Music 2. Excited people telling us of the various things we might see and take part in. 3. Images of the gathering grounds. 4. MORE
The video is not really a promo for the Reason Rally. This is some guy trying to be poetic and profound. Boring. Well meant, perhaps, but vague and boring. The person really should have studied up on getting persuasive if that was his goal.
@PaleBlueDotCitizen-Yeah the Reason Rally sounds great! And it seems that non-faith is on the rise. And I think you're right; reason has been an important factor in leading folks out of dark ages before.
@TymesRhymes Well there are many local atheist groups arranging buses to get there and room shares once there. I am sharing a room with three others there. It just makes the whole thing more of an experience and fun. This is going to be THE unmissable event of the decade and I strongly recommend that you try and get there. If you really can't then be there in spirit.
@TymesRhymes Support the event, share this video and the others on your facebook pages, mirror them and help spread the word. Then when you watch it on TV you'll feel that you were involved!
@PaleBlueDotCitizen-But Obama supports giving tax money to "faith-based initiatives" and supports us fighting needless wars, both of which Ron Paul opposes. Also, Obama says that his preacher's sermans were a huge influence in his life.
@RickeyRamone Good points. America is doomed :( I just hope it can reach rock bottom quickly such that it can begin the upward climb t recovery. A lot of attitudes will have to change though for that to happen and this Reason Rally is a step towards that.
@TheAwesomeMaths 500 characters isn't even enough to get started. I have a video coming in the next few days which will answer this question as concisely as I can put it.
@TheAwesomeMaths "What if I can present evidence for the existence of God?"
I won't presume what it is that you would posit as "evidence," but I'd mention that any person claiming to have experienced "God," and who would live their life for God, die before renouncing God, etc., there exists a *different* person, with a different god, who is just as convinced.
Without falling within the constraints of empirical testing, how could one differentiate any proposed truth from a faith-based myth?
@PaleBlueDotCitizen- You're being quite illogical. To deny evolution is not to deny its supportive sciences.. In fact, as a medical doctor, Dr Pail utilizes those sciences. Ron Paul is the best candidate to come along in decades. Ideologically, Romney and Obama are far closer to each other than either is to Dr Paul. Although Romney will try to lie and tell you otherwise. What in the Hell could you possibly see in Obama???
@RickeyRamone Well for starters he doesn't belong to the GOP, a party whose stated founding principles happen to be EXACTLY the two things that are the most harmful and divisive to our human species: nationalism and religion.
@Ryakki Ron Paul is a medical doctor so he's had more scientific training than any of the other candidates. There is strong scientific evidence that supports denying anthropogenic warming. You claimed that Dr Paul denies "other science." I don't think that you can come up with an example for us. Obama crams religion down our throats in the form of faith based initiatives. If you could really mistake Obama for an atheist, your powers of perception must be FUBAR!
@RickeyRamone Youi just said.. "You claimed that Dr Paul denies "other science." I don't think that you can come up with an example for us."
He denies evolution which is corroborated by a dozen separate areas of science. Do you have any clue how many areas of science he is denying right there?
He is the best of the cartoon-clown republicans. That does not make him a good presidential candidate. Obama is a far better choice.
@gergsar We're much better off with someone who doesn't believe in evolution but also doesn't want to cram religion down our throats in the form faith based initiatives like Obama does.
Ron Paul is a politician with intellectual integrity and courage!! And he also voted against the Patriot Act, the Iraq war and the Bank bailouts. Now although he is a theist, he also is a constitutionalist so he opposes religion FORCING its values on us. And Dr Paul has also voted against faith-based initiatives which btw, most Democrat politicians favor.. The Reason Rally sounds stellar! I’m gonna go.
@PaleBlueDotCitizen You're correct in stating he is the best of a bad bunch. No other person seeking the presidential office has an intelligent economic, foreign, or domestic policy except for Ron Paul. To resort to an ad hominem based on one issue that his presidency would not even change nor is a requirement for office is absurd. However, following a speculation-forming, inflationary monetary policy under Obama or his twins Romney and Gingrich is and will continue to be devastating.
Not only does he deny evolution, he denies climate change and other science, and of course, because of his religion. He's not rational. He's an apple that's only half rotten in a barrel of apples that's totally rotten.
Obama has a mixed record on policy and promises fulfilled... and I'm not the biggest fan out there... but he's firmly behind modern science, and some of the comments he makes towards religion in speeches and writings... hell, I'd mistake him for an atheist.
@Ryakki Ron Paul supports economic freedom which provides the greatest incentive for scientific advancement.
Saying that Obama or government in general helps science through subsidies and other forms of stimulus is nonsense. You may ask me to expound.
Obama, just like Bush, has increased government control over the economy. We payed for the dot-com stimulus with the housing bubble and financial crisis, imagine the market correction after the stimulus and quantitative easing during Obama.
Privately funded science has not, in ~43 years, gotten to the moon. It has not sent a probe to Mars, an astroid, or any other body in the solar system. It doesn't have one scientific instrument in space that's not focused back on the Earth that I've ever heard of. I've also never heard of a privately funded particle accelerator. Where would our technology, and our civilization be, without government funded science? How much less would we be as a species...
@VyckRo "Nice poster whit the books behind you [PaleBlueDotCitizen]. But if you will actually read some books... ever, you would know that the "dark age" it is just an Atheist myth."
Could you perhaps instantiate the claim above? Considering the centuries for which the church persecuted scholars who dared make claims incompatible with Scripture (you should read Ken Ham's "Statement of Faith" on AnswersinGenesisdotorg, for example), our species was long bereft of unfettered academic freedom.
Great video Gary. I'm excited about RR. Not just to listen to the speakers, but to sit and have conversations with friends that I've met and many news ones that I have yet to meet. There's sure to be many a toast to reason over superstition.
Income tax, WW1, Federal Reserve Act, New Deal, WW2, etc.. Worst presidents based on peace, prosperity, and freedom during this time were Woodrow Wilson, Truman, FDR, Bush jr., JFK, Reagan, Bush sr., and LBJ.
Reagan spent record amounts on welfare and entitlements and submitted unbalanced budgets. He wasn't a conservative; his domestic and military spending were bloated.
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I really would love to go, and this is probably just one more reason why I wish Richard Dawkins could afford to give people plain rides there or the ability to make it, but oh well I can try to get there, but no promises =/
Wonderful video! I SO desperately would like to be there and am going to TRY and find a way! Unfortunately, I'm currently going through some financial struggles. If I'm not there.., PLEASE know that I will be with you all in spirit, as it were!
@crazy4carolyn Sell a kidney! Pawn your children! Go gambling in Vegas! Attend a prosperity gospel! OK not the last one (the flock gets fleeced every time there). Do what ever you have to but don't miss this!
It was a good video, right up until the "Is America free anymore rant?". Dude, please, almost passing an anti-piracy bill that went to far is not the end of the world. Even with the USA Patriot Act, our criminal justice system is still more civil libertarian than Europe. And we are very free of any hate speech or blasphemy laws. It's not perfect, but your condescension is not going to encourage any Americans to fight for secularism. We appreciate the concern, but focus on your nation.
@kissfan7 We may be better than a lot of countries, but look at ACTA, HR 1981, and thats just to start. If they want the internet censored they're gonna do it.
@Arivol The UK is also a signatory to ACTA, yet Americans don't feel the need to make videos berating Britons about free speech or demanding that British atheists organize.
I just find it condescending when non-American secularists feel the need to lecture us, and so do the vast majority of non-secular Americans. If this march is to have any effect, that needs to go.
@kissfan7 You make the mistake of assuming I was in some way preferring the UK to the USA. I have no loyalty to any region demarcated by invisible lines painted on the ground. I am an Earth citizen. Nationalism is as evil as religion.
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I apologize if I gave that impression, as that wasn't what I though you were saying at all. But you were going on about how we used to be so great and now we are wasting all of our potential. You kind of sounded like a parent disappointed in his/her kid, and a lot of us do find that condescending.
Take a page out of Hitchens and Dawkins. They criticize religion both in their native land and in the US without talking down to one nation or the other.
@Arivol I don't find that much condescension from him, maybe I'm wrong. He is right though and I don't think people should have to say anything about their religious views to get into office
@kissfan7 I AM focusing on our nation and our British friend is absolutely right. I've been alive long enough to watch our country go down the toilet.
@kissfan7 "It was a good video, right up until the "Is America free anymore rant?". Dude, please...It's not perfect, but your condescension is not going to encourage any Americans to fight for secularism. We appreciate the concern, but focus on your nation."
I'm afraid that we've become insusceptible even to constructive criticism, because the mantra of jingoistic nationalism has carefully cultivated such a sense of offense in its citizens to outside thinking, that it's practically doctrine.
@kissfan7 I don't identify with any nation, I'm an Earth citizen. National borders are invisible lines drawn on the ground for the hurling of bombs and insults over. The direction the USA takes is important to the future of our species and our planet and the general level of nuttiness there is a concern for everyone.
Righto mate! I lived in the U.S. in the 70' & 80's & loved it. Unfortunatly I still live here and wish I didn't. Can't get to D.C. but best of luck to you.
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I know I would never regret it! Its been a dream since I was 15 to see these people at least once in person!! And while I am only 18 years old, I am so glad I know the facts. Sadly I live in Washington (the state) and its quite a far trip and I have no money what so ever :( If you plan this again in 10 years or less I will do whatever it takes to make it!
Dara o'briain, Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr should all be going to this reason rally....Actually on second thoughts, probably best for Frankie not to go :D
I also like the part where you talk about how Atheism is rising all around the world, yet follow it up by claiming theocracy is on the rise and your movement needs grease for its wheels. So.. which one is it? Anyone with their eyes open can see that religion is on the fall, but it has nothing to do with reason. Most people are atheists because of lies like "Religion has started so many wars", "Evolution disproves God" etc. Very few actually have sound arguments. It's blind theism in reverse.
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What do you mean religion was never mentioned in the media with those things!? They read Genesis live from space, and took communion on the Moon. Religion also played a part in the Cold War. Your statistics for atheists in America are also woeful. Where is your 'skepticism and reason' in that? And damn it, your theory that somehow America will fall based on their religious beliefs is a load of crap and shows you know nothing about how that country is run.
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I went to school in the 70s. No one ever spoke of religion. I haven't a clue if any of my friends were theists. I can't believe how far backwards we have moved. It's a goddamn shame!
cry4turtles1 3 days ago
@TheAwesomeMaths If you actually READ the BVG instead of blindly following WLC, you'd realize that it does not prove a finite universe and almost explicitly says so. It sets out to explain that EXPANSION cannot occur infinitely when looking into the past. Think 1-2 and try to picture that negative existing. Multiverses and circular inf/deflations are still very possible.
haloboz 1 week ago
@haloboz You should read the BVG Theorem. I suggest you check out TheisticThinker's channel on Youtube. He has this covered more that I can do within a 500 word limit.
TheAwesomeMaths 1 week ago
And the 70s also had the best music :)
mukilkrishnan 1 week ago
You're sexy.
EwBriii 2 weeks ago
I love your video too- yours is much more intelligent than mine lol :) can't wait to see you there!
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@alwayshuntress Mine is serious and boring compared to yours!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 2 weeks ago 2
@alwayshuntress FUCK YOU MAN! you have 15x the views as i do
drums4woodstock 1 week ago
@drums4woodstock That's no way to speak to a lady.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 5 days ago
THIS is supposed to be a powerfully persuasive ad for the the Reason Rally??
Folks, an ad for the Rally would include 1. Music 2. Excited people telling us of the various things we might see and take part in. 3. Images of the gathering grounds. 4. MORE
The video is not really a promo for the Reason Rally. This is some guy trying to be poetic and profound. Boring. Well meant, perhaps, but vague and boring. The person really should have studied up on getting persuasive if that was his goal.
lancethrustworthy 2 weeks ago
I hate you man, you have way more views than me
bkhex 3 weeks ago
@bkhex Sorry about that! :(
Everyone go and watch bkhex's video!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen-Yeah the Reason Rally sounds great! And it seems that non-faith is on the rise. And I think you're right; reason has been an important factor in leading folks out of dark ages before.
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
I wish I could go but the travel for me plus hotel is too expensive. So many inspiring people are attending, I can't wait to hear about the results!
TymesRhymes 3 weeks ago
@TymesRhymes Well there are many local atheist groups arranging buses to get there and room shares once there. I am sharing a room with three others there. It just makes the whole thing more of an experience and fun. This is going to be THE unmissable event of the decade and I strongly recommend that you try and get there. If you really can't then be there in spirit.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@TymesRhymes Support the event, share this video and the others on your facebook pages, mirror them and help spread the word. Then when you watch it on TV you'll feel that you were involved!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen Will look into it. Thanks for the reply.
TymesRhymes 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen-But Obama supports giving tax money to "faith-based initiatives" and supports us fighting needless wars, both of which Ron Paul opposes. Also, Obama says that his preacher's sermans were a huge influence in his life.
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
@RickeyRamone Good points. America is doomed :( I just hope it can reach rock bottom quickly such that it can begin the upward climb t recovery. A lot of attitudes will have to change though for that to happen and this Reason Rally is a step towards that.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen Why do you think religion is a bad thing?
TheAwesomeMaths 3 weeks ago
@TheAwesomeMaths 500 characters isn't even enough to get started. I have a video coming in the next few days which will answer this question as concisely as I can put it.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen What if I can present evidence for the existence of God?
TheAwesomeMaths 3 weeks ago
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@TheAwesomeMaths "What if I can present evidence for the existence of God?"
I won't presume what it is that you would posit as "evidence," but I'd mention that any person claiming to have experienced "God," and who would live their life for God, die before renouncing God, etc., there exists a *different* person, with a different god, who is just as convinced.
Without falling within the constraints of empirical testing, how could one differentiate any proposed truth from a faith-based myth?
themediocrenontheist 3 weeks ago
@TheAwesomeMaths If this evidence can stand up through the scientific method, making it through peer review, please share it with everyone.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
haloboz 3 weeks ago
@haloboz No, any claim requires just evidence.
The BVG Theorem proves the Universe had a beginning.
TheAwesomeMaths 1 week ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen- You're being quite illogical. To deny evolution is not to deny its supportive sciences.. In fact, as a medical doctor, Dr Pail utilizes those sciences. Ron Paul is the best candidate to come along in decades. Ideologically, Romney and Obama are far closer to each other than either is to Dr Paul. Although Romney will try to lie and tell you otherwise. What in the Hell could you possibly see in Obama???
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
@RickeyRamone Well for starters he doesn't belong to the GOP, a party whose stated founding principles happen to be EXACTLY the two things that are the most harmful and divisive to our human species: nationalism and religion.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@Ryakki Ron Paul is a medical doctor so he's had more scientific training than any of the other candidates. There is strong scientific evidence that supports denying anthropogenic warming. You claimed that Dr Paul denies "other science." I don't think that you can come up with an example for us. Obama crams religion down our throats in the form of faith based initiatives. If you could really mistake Obama for an atheist, your powers of perception must be FUBAR!
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
@RickeyRamone Youi just said.. "You claimed that Dr Paul denies "other science." I don't think that you can come up with an example for us."
He denies evolution which is corroborated by a dozen separate areas of science. Do you have any clue how many areas of science he is denying right there?
He is the best of the cartoon-clown republicans. That does not make him a good presidential candidate. Obama is a far better choice.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@gergsar We're much better off with someone who doesn't believe in evolution but also doesn't want to cram religion down our throats in the form faith based initiatives like Obama does.
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
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fakeiddrums 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul is a politician with intellectual integrity and courage!! And he also voted against the Patriot Act, the Iraq war and the Bank bailouts. Now although he is a theist, he also is a constitutionalist so he opposes religion FORCING its values on us. And Dr Paul has also voted against faith-based initiatives which btw, most Democrat politicians favor.. The Reason Rally sounds stellar! I’m gonna go.
RickeyRamone 3 weeks ago
@RickeyRamone Paul does not even believe in evolution...
gergsar 3 weeks ago
The 1960's to the 1970's were also Americas best economic eras.
Antimidation 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul 2012!
wallstreetatheist 3 weeks ago
@wallstreetatheist Hmmm, really? the best of a bad bunch. He doesn't "believe" in evolution. He's a moron.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago 6
@PaleBlueDotCitizen You're correct in stating he is the best of a bad bunch. No other person seeking the presidential office has an intelligent economic, foreign, or domestic policy except for Ron Paul. To resort to an ad hominem based on one issue that his presidency would not even change nor is a requirement for office is absurd. However, following a speculation-forming, inflationary monetary policy under Obama or his twins Romney and Gingrich is and will continue to be devastating.
wallstreetatheist 2 weeks ago
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Not only does he deny evolution, he denies climate change and other science, and of course, because of his religion. He's not rational. He's an apple that's only half rotten in a barrel of apples that's totally rotten.
Obama has a mixed record on policy and promises fulfilled... and I'm not the biggest fan out there... but he's firmly behind modern science, and some of the comments he makes towards religion in speeches and writings... hell, I'd mistake him for an atheist.
Ryakki 3 weeks ago 3
@Ryakki Ron Paul supports economic freedom which provides the greatest incentive for scientific advancement.
Saying that Obama or government in general helps science through subsidies and other forms of stimulus is nonsense. You may ask me to expound.
Obama, just like Bush, has increased government control over the economy. We payed for the dot-com stimulus with the housing bubble and financial crisis, imagine the market correction after the stimulus and quantitative easing during Obama.
wallstreetatheist 2 weeks ago
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Privately funded science has not, in ~43 years, gotten to the moon. It has not sent a probe to Mars, an astroid, or any other body in the solar system. It doesn't have one scientific instrument in space that's not focused back on the Earth that I've ever heard of. I've also never heard of a privately funded particle accelerator. Where would our technology, and our civilization be, without government funded science? How much less would we be as a species...
Ryakki 2 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen
Nice poster whit the books behind you.
But if you will actually read some books... ever, you would know that the "dark age" it is just an Atheist myth.
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@VyckRo "Nice poster whit the books behind you [PaleBlueDotCitizen]. But if you will actually read some books... ever, you would know that the "dark age" it is just an Atheist myth."
Could you perhaps instantiate the claim above? Considering the centuries for which the church persecuted scholars who dared make claims incompatible with Scripture (you should read Ken Ham's "Statement of Faith" on AnswersinGenesisdotorg, for example), our species was long bereft of unfettered academic freedom.
themediocrenontheist 3 weeks ago
Great video Gary. I'm excited about RR. Not just to listen to the speakers, but to sit and have conversations with friends that I've met and many news ones that I have yet to meet. There's sure to be many a toast to reason over superstition.
imanhammad 3 weeks ago
@imanhammad Thanks Iman, it's going to be so much fun. We'll have a blast!!!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
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NO! NO!! NO!!!
It is a LIE, see my video "Reason Rally Contest (my Response)" that will not be the largest secular gathering in history
VyckRo 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
NO! NO!! NO!!!
It is a LIE, see my video "Reason Rally Contest (my Response)" that will not be the largest secular gathering in history
VyckRo 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The Reagan Era fucked us up.
AtheistinFundyLand 3 weeks ago 2
@AtheistinFundyLand yeah, something is trickling down lol.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@AtheistinFundyLand We've been fucking ourselves up since 1913.
Income tax, WW1, Federal Reserve Act, New Deal, WW2, etc.. Worst presidents based on peace, prosperity, and freedom during this time were Woodrow Wilson, Truman, FDR, Bush jr., JFK, Reagan, Bush sr., and LBJ.
Reagan spent record amounts on welfare and entitlements and submitted unbalanced budgets. He wasn't a conservative; his domestic and military spending were bloated.
wallstreetatheist 2 weeks ago
I'd so love to go. :)
AtheistinFundyLand 3 weeks ago
@AtheistinFundyLand Why can't you? Can't you rob a bank or mug some old ladies? (Just kidding!)
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Wonderful video! I am jealous of your book collection... also noticed the Johnnie Walker Black :)
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@jesusfetusfajitafish Haha thanks! It's been there ever since I did the Hitchen's tribute video.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I really would love to go, and this is probably just one more reason why I wish Richard Dawkins could afford to give people plain rides there or the ability to make it, but oh well I can try to get there, but no promises =/
foofiter9097 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen What catched my eye was "DNS and BIND", O'Reilly..
Darn, I'm a nerd ^^
M0rdH0rst 3 weeks ago
Wonderful video! I SO desperately would like to be there and am going to TRY and find a way! Unfortunately, I'm currently going through some financial struggles. If I'm not there.., PLEASE know that I will be with you all in spirit, as it were!
crazy4carolyn 3 weeks ago
@crazy4carolyn Sell a kidney! Pawn your children! Go gambling in Vegas! Attend a prosperity gospel! OK not the last one (the flock gets fleeced every time there). Do what ever you have to but don't miss this!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Good Job!! Congrats! :)
CalRealEstateGoddess 3 weeks ago
@CalRealEstateGoddess Thanks!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
It was a good video, right up until the "Is America free anymore rant?". Dude, please, almost passing an anti-piracy bill that went to far is not the end of the world. Even with the USA Patriot Act, our criminal justice system is still more civil libertarian than Europe. And we are very free of any hate speech or blasphemy laws. It's not perfect, but your condescension is not going to encourage any Americans to fight for secularism. We appreciate the concern, but focus on your nation.
kissfan7 3 weeks ago
@kissfan7 We may be better than a lot of countries, but look at ACTA, HR 1981, and thats just to start. If they want the internet censored they're gonna do it.
Arivol 3 weeks ago
@Arivol The UK is also a signatory to ACTA, yet Americans don't feel the need to make videos berating Britons about free speech or demanding that British atheists organize.
I just find it condescending when non-American secularists feel the need to lecture us, and so do the vast majority of non-secular Americans. If this march is to have any effect, that needs to go.
kissfan7 3 weeks ago
@kissfan7 You make the mistake of assuming I was in some way preferring the UK to the USA. I have no loyalty to any region demarcated by invisible lines painted on the ground. I am an Earth citizen. Nationalism is as evil as religion.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I apologize if I gave that impression, as that wasn't what I though you were saying at all. But you were going on about how we used to be so great and now we are wasting all of our potential. You kind of sounded like a parent disappointed in his/her kid, and a lot of us do find that condescending.
Take a page out of Hitchens and Dawkins. They criticize religion both in their native land and in the US without talking down to one nation or the other.
kissfan7 3 weeks ago
@Arivol I don't find that much condescension from him, maybe I'm wrong. He is right though and I don't think people should have to say anything about their religious views to get into office
Arivol 3 weeks ago
@kissfan7 I AM focusing on our nation and our British friend is absolutely right. I've been alive long enough to watch our country go down the toilet.
AtheistinFundyLand 3 weeks ago
@kissfan7 "It was a good video, right up until the "Is America free anymore rant?". Dude, please...It's not perfect, but your condescension is not going to encourage any Americans to fight for secularism. We appreciate the concern, but focus on your nation."
I'm afraid that we've become insusceptible even to constructive criticism, because the mantra of jingoistic nationalism has carefully cultivated such a sense of offense in its citizens to outside thinking, that it's practically doctrine.
themediocrenontheist 3 weeks ago
@kissfan7 I don't identify with any nation, I'm an Earth citizen. National borders are invisible lines drawn on the ground for the hurling of bombs and insults over. The direction the USA takes is important to the future of our species and our planet and the general level of nuttiness there is a concern for everyone.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 2 weeks ago 4
@PaleBlueDotCitizen /co-sign
alwayshuntress 2 weeks ago
OMG im so hyped for this, its going to be AWESOME!!!!!!
Icefan30 3 weeks ago
@Icefan30 It is. IT IS!!!!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
canader... nice accent
Superchickenman159 3 weeks ago
@Superchickenman159 Thanks! I don't think I have an accent actually, it's all you lot who sound funny!! ;)
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Awesome G....hope to see you there, :)
heikkala2797 3 weeks ago
Righto mate! I lived in the U.S. in the 70' & 80's & loved it. Unfortunatly I still live here and wish I didn't. Can't get to D.C. but best of luck to you.
TheBradbuzan 3 weeks ago
i wish i could be there ,:(
kevrs2 3 weeks ago
@kevrs2 No, don't miss it! I want to see the crowds spilling out all over the city. I want this to be on TV all over the world!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
If only I could actually get there! :(
foofiter9097 3 weeks ago
@foofiter9097 Hitch hike!!! You'll never regret getting yourself there if it's at all humanly possible!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@PaleBlueDotCitizen I know I would never regret it! Its been a dream since I was 15 to see these people at least once in person!! And while I am only 18 years old, I am so glad I know the facts. Sadly I live in Washington (the state) and its quite a far trip and I have no money what so ever :( If you plan this again in 10 years or less I will do whatever it takes to make it!
foofiter9097 3 weeks ago
@foofiter9097 Who knows when it'll happen again? I'm traveling from BC by the way.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
@foofiter9097 I live in Washington State, where are you???
heikkala2797 3 weeks ago
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foofiter9097 3 weeks ago
@heikkala2797 Camas Washington.
foofiter9097 3 weeks ago
black label whisky and several Hitchens books. love it.
NerollGermany 3 weeks ago
@NerollGermany I met Hitch back in October. He'd have loved to have been at the Reason Rally. He lived in DC.
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
this is gonna be awesome
greenrage247 3 weeks ago
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Dara o'briain, Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr should all be going to this reason rally....Actually on second thoughts, probably best for Frankie not to go :D
AidanVaroloWhite7 3 weeks ago
Yaye. March 24th is now marked on my calendar for a drive to DC if I can.
shelynn46 3 weeks ago
@shelynn46 Good job! See you there if you can find me in the crowd!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Fantastic!
emilyhasbooks 3 weeks ago
@emilyhasbooks Thanks Emily. Your video is too! (And so are you)
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Excellent video. Best of luck.
novaphoenix70 3 weeks ago
@novaphoenix70 Thanks very much! See you there?
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
Don't forget to give it the Thumbs Up that it deserves!
suzilah 3 weeks ago
@suzilah Thanks sweet Suzi!!!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago
WELL said! You're 100%!
julzabro 3 weeks ago
@julzabro 100% correct! ;)
julzabro 3 weeks ago
@julzabro Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
PaleBlueDotCitizen 3 weeks ago