Funeral of Hiram Cronk, War of 1812 Veteran

[icecreeper4]

This footage is....priceless. You have no idea.

[BEGLEGH]

like towards the end it looks like one of civil war vets steps out of formation and they seem to have a little verbal conflict.

[chris7w7]

this is good stuff I`m an glad to see people like you and uthers that put thes old films up on youtub.

[1TakeVlog]

some incredible stuff here

[allanshawn]

this is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rshrub7]

God bless the u.s.a.!!! We r the toughest sons of a bitches alive!

[bangwallitt]

British won!

[jackma152]

All these people in this film are long gone. They all lived full lives. It like touching the past

[Smileyflutterby67512]

war is hell

[blogmeister]

To Americans visiting Niagara Falls,

Maybe take a few minutes and visit the cemetary on Drummond Hill to pay respects to fellow countrymen from the 1812 war. Any taxi driver would know where ... it is only 2, maybe 3 miles from the Falls themselves. Approximately 30 feet southwest of Laura Secords grave, (can't miss hers ... huge statue of her!), is a long row of unknown American Soldiers from 1812. Perhaps one day they will be repatriated and buried with full honours in Arlington?

[clb393]

this footage is spectacular on so many fronts. it's a form of time travel. simply amazing, thanks!!

[powerslavet69]

I think I saw a lady talking on a cell phone. j/k This incredibly interesting just to see people animated from 105 years ago. The same number of years as old Hiram lived.

[chorne2k]

Nice footage! This funeral procession took place in Manhattan traveling from Grand Central to City Hall. In one of the carriages following the hearse, was NYC mayor George B. McClellan, Jr., son of the Union Civil War general.

[ElCid48]

The older gentlemen with the Union uniforms are GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) veterans of the Civil War.

[phillip549]

wow 105 years old the changes he saw in the country amazing

[mario9906]

@phillip549 when he was born france owned most of the country west of the missisippi. during the war of 1812 there were only a few million americans and the buffalo herds numbered around 60 million. a large part of the counry was stillunexplored in 1812 ,making it a vast and beautful wilderness. george washington died in1799 but most of the founding fathers were still alive. i

[IgnatzKolisch]

@mario9906

While buffalo herds may have numbered in the millions in the early 1800s, that would be in places like Africa, southern Asia and Italy (brought there in the Middle Ages). Not sure what buffalo have to do with North America.

But, your point is well-made: this was a guy from a different era who lived into the time of photography, recorded sound, motion picture, cars, and even powered flight. Breathtaking to really think about people like him.

[exsinor]

@IgnatzKolisch

the buffalo he spoke of is the common American term for the herds of North American Bison which roamed over most middle America for centuries.

[phillip549]

@mario9906 yep when he was born it took months to cross the US there was no communication systems and when he died trains could coss the country in less than 4 day telephone were common its realy amazing

[badandy2x]

eveybody has a hat on in those days lol

[natureperson420]

what did that guy throw @ :54

[lendir1]

All I can say is wow, and thank you very much. Definitely a thumbs up.

[14nitetripper]

This is fascinating!

[TheExeter]

That was so cool!

I can almost hear the marching band play in the precession.

[white89euro]

Great film. Thanks very much for posting this. It's a tribute to all American veterans before and after Mr. Cronk.

[kissed61]

even his name sounds old

[GameCenter2009]

Wow just one year off waterloo no sound tho :,,(.

[GameCenter2009]

3 years I ment.

[allgoonersaregay]

@GameCenter2009 try 90 years you dipstick!

[pgs5719]

Wow, like this footage of history really shows our human frailty and probaby my grandfather in his 40's during that era in 1905...wow and civil war veterans marching in that parade!!! God bless them all.

[elasatlaculos]

They also wore an onion on their belt as was the style of the time, don't you know?

[rascal211]

Wow this is going back in time to 1905. Everyone was wearing a hat, that was the style.

[whelhosses]

probably lots of youngsters in that war.

l forget about all the drummer boys, powder monkeys etc.

Your videos are great.

[whelhosses]

he was twelve years old in the war??

[IgnatzKolisch]

The War of 1812 lasted more than one year....

He enlisted August 4, 1814 and was discharged a couple of months later.

[ultradumbass]

@whelhosses the idea the war of 1812 was only in 1812 is a myth. in fact it did not even start in 1812. the first battle was tippecanoe on november 7 1811. the treaty of ghent on december 24 1814 ended the war. but an army preparing to attack new orleans did not get the news on time and made a 3 week offence. another myth is the british and canadians were soundly defeated at new orleans. we retreated because we finally got the news during the battle. we had tons of reinforcements coming.

[rtfm767]

@ultradumbass Never read history from the losers point of view especially when its British...We actually handed you ur asses in a bitter defeat ur ranks were crushed attacking fortified positions of regular infantry and common street thugs mixed with Blacks that were itchin to kill a white man American Indians and one of the dirtyest general and president in American history Stonewall Jackson...But i give credit where credit is due we did run at Bladensburg when u guys burned Washington D.C...

[ultradumbass]

@rtfm767 the americans lost. the americans tried annexing canada and lost. check out these battles. michilimackinac island, lundy's lane, chrysler's farm, queenston heights, frenchtown, sack of detroit, siege of boston, beaver's dam, chateauguay, stoney creek, black rock, fort niagara, battle of buffalo, cook's mill and many other battles:) thousands of canadians and natives were within the miltia, only a fraction of british troops were present before the fall of 1814.

[ultradumbass]

@rtfm767 in fact only 2,000 british regulars were around before the fall of 1814 as most were fighting napoleon. in the entire war 54,000 canadian militia and 10,000 natives fought. only 20,000 saw action though since you had to be in the right palce at the right time to see it. but of the 20,000 canadian militia who fought it is estimated probably 4,000 died and 1,000 injured along with 500 natives killed and 1,000 injured. by 1813 only a fraction of the 2,000 british were still alive.

[overopensights]

@ultradumbass There is a common factor when assessing the fighting qualities of people who have shown courage, given up all they knew, took risks and pioneered to foreign lands. This was very evident with the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Divisions that came back over to fight in both wars. Quite unsurpassed all of them.

[ultradumbass]

@rtfm767 54,000 militia plus 10,000 natives is not bad since the entire canadian population at the time was 275,000 colonials and 25,000 natives. and only 50 years earlier canada hardly had 70,000 inhabitants of which about a quarter were natives.

[overopensights]

@rtfm767 Greetings: Sir! I beg to admit, I served my mil career in the 23rd of Foot The Royal Welch Fusiliers. On our 'Colours' (Battle flags) were the battles of 'Bunker's Hill. 'Washington' and 'Yorktown' (a defeat ) The colours were displayed hung at Battalion Headquarters and during July 1976 in Berlin the colours were pinned with safety pins to hide the offending battles, so not to offend Americans allies celebrating the bi centenary of independence.

[rtfm767]

@overopensights I have alot of English friends and i'm goin there next year u guys are our brothers in Iraq and Afghanistan may God watch over "all" of our troops in the sand.... Thats crazy that ur battle streamers had Bunker Hill, Washington and Yorktown crazy shit huh....

[rtfm767]

@ultradumbass Plus that was ur second defeat in a row by us "unruly" Americans...

[ultradumbass]

@rtfm767 most people mistake british people for canadians. in fact the term canada had already existed for centuries. and canadians are not die hard loyal to anyone. even the french who previously had us almost felt like giving up because they considered us too stubborn. most canadians when they fight in wars are not fighting for the british empire but for their homeland.

[rtfm767]

@ultradumbass Very true the invasion of Canada was an epic fail but it was a half hearted invasion...It was almost a side note and it was used as an aggrovating manuver to stick it to the British by sayin yea we'll attack ur last colony jus to do it..The main goal of American forces was to stop a British land invasion of the United States so England couldnt get boots on the ground...

[ultradumbass]

@rtfm767 england never intended to conquer the usa. england was intending to go on the offensive to keep american forces away in case the french ever gained strength again, which they did when napoleon escaped from the island of elba. canadian militia for the most part mainly defended their own homeland. very few canadians crossed over into the usa in the 1814 campaigns, but in the 1812 and 1813 campaigns it was generally canadian militia that were crossing over.

[overopensights]

@rtfm767 I cannot see that Britain would have wanted to go through colonisation with America again. it was not an option, we had yet to defeat napoleon, which we did in June 1815. However some years later Prime Minister Gladstone said: 'The sepremacy of America over Great Britain both commercialy and in military terms is as sure as the sun coming up tomorrow; but one thing is most sure: they will always be six hours behind us.'

[rtfm767]

@overopensights LMAO!! We actually declared war on the British Empire... U guys kept impressing our seamen into the Royal Navy in international waters.. The English crown actually wrote a letter of apology and said that impressment of sailors would stop but we sent the declaration of war b4 we got ur letter by the time it reached the U.S. it was too late we already stuck our foot in our mouth... Only if E-mail was invented then lol....

[overopensights]

@rtfm767 Greetings: You may admit that the Royal Navy training that the 'impressed' men had was good for the soul of your new nation. However it was at a time when even 12 and 13 year old English boys were being dragged into the Royal Navy. No man or lad was safe in Britain they were just 'grabbed'. Captains of any English ship just had to get men, they took them where they found them and to find English speaking foreigners were 'Big fish' to these very cruel and ruthless Naval Captains.

[rtfm767]

@overopensights My father actually told me about the impressment of English citizens that u'd be mullerd drunk in a bar and the Navy would knock u out then u'd wake up on a HMS Fuckall... The term "3 square meals a day" came from the Royal Navy bcuz the mess cook would serve u ur food on a square tin tray 3 times a day and all the grog ya want laddys!!

[overopensights]

@rtfm767 Greetings:The three square means a day referred to the Naval biscuit, it weighed nearly half a pound and was made of hard oatmeal, it could break teeth,' Often full of weevils it was issued with the 'grog; and some meat each day. This biscuit lives on in British infantry ration packs called 'hard tack buscuits' now only 4x3 inches. good with jam or cheese. Also when soaked in petrol it will boil half a pint of water. Very good when broken up and boiled with milk or water; porridge.

[overopensights]

@ultradumbass Greetings 68.2% of Canadians that rushed to join in WW1 had been born in England. And a fine display of excellent fighting qualities they gave!

[ultradumbass]

@overopensights 68.2% who joined in 1914 were born in england however over 90% were raised in canada since immigration was still new to canada. it would be like saying americans never fought the revolution because almost all were born europeans at the time or that the english don't really own england as it had been conquered by normans in 1066. by 1918 over 70% of those enlisting were born and raised as canadians. many at the start joined because they had relatives in england they wanted to see.

[overopensights]

@ultradumbass It was not a derogatory comment, a fact, you will know that there was emigration to the Americas long before Clive. However what brought my comments on were the First Canadians to arrive; Princess Patricia's, they went straight into the 2nd Battle of Ypres in April and May of 1915. The British army were only just holding on with battalions down to only thirty men in some cases. The Canadians absolutely saved that situation despite gas and mass German Infantry attacks upon them.

[ultradumbass]

@overopensights princess patricia's were there long before 2nd ypres. also at the time of the outbreak of war a group of 800 canadians were stationed at malta and made it for the battle of the marne. in october 1914 the princess patricia's arrived in england while survivors of marne fought at neuve chapelle. by late november and early december all patricia's were on the front and attached to the few survivors at malta. the only canadians to arrive at the front by 1914.

[ultradumbass]

@overopensights by the time 2nd ypres occurred there was a whole canadian division on the front. reinforcements came in january 1915. interestingly the first wave of canadian soldiers to cross in ww, is the largest single fleet of soldiers ever to cross the atlantic with about 65,000 land forces with 5,000 marines crossing at once. when 2nd ypres occurred about 12,000 infantry supported by 3,000 engineers and hundreds of staff and gunmen fought and half were casualties after four days of battle.

[dfcvda]

@whelhosses its not unheard of, no record of ages were kept

[VM1138]

Very cool video.