The reason DOS rejected the results was NOT because the computer selected applicants from the first two days. They rejected it because the computer malfunctioned, and the bias selection was thus a consequence of that error. Assuming the malfunctioning of the computer had resulted in the entry of a single individual being selected 100000 times. Would that still be considered random since there was no external influence?
Excellent video. Great Job! Perhaps one more thing you could add is that random does not mean uniform. In fact, a uniform distribution is by definition not random, as you have to make determined decisions in order to have the selectees picked uniformly in time.
@DrEfremov Nope. 22k is the number of people who got the NL1 from the website between May, 1 and May, 6. The _total_ number of winners is unknown and presumed to be normal (around 100K).
Assume there are 750 lottery tickets and 4 winning tickets. The tickets are sold 30 days. All 750 tickets have the same chance to win. “After the drawing”;2 of the winning tickets had been purchased on the 1st day, 1 on the second day and the 4th ticket on the 20th day. Now someone says: “the winning tickets came from the 1st, 2nd&20th days. Tickets purchased the other 27 days had no chance of winning. We must cancel the drawing” This does NOT make any sense at all !!..
Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment.
I'm not even going to comment on that right now Dude, I just feel sad about you. You should do your homework, before stating something that ridiculous.
ridiculous... the law requires SELECTION to be random. It was not... run the process 1 mil times and it will select most people in the first 2 days... It's NOT RANDOM. The fact nobody knew that and nobody could benefit from this glitch does not make the selection process random. input data (applications) were random - yes, but the law required the selection process to be random, not input data. If you fail to understand this, then I deeply regret abt your mental abilities
@andreyvl4 Dear Sir, there is no relation at all between random selection and evenly distributed number. You put people in an urn and you selected 100,000 thousands from the people in the urn. The make random selection on people not on days. By the way I am a computer Engineer in Alexandria University, so I am talking from my strong knowledge and believes.. Evenly distributed numbers are not random by nature as you force them by rules to be selected on a pattern. Dear Sir try to be fair.
@totomomo258 sry... I can not understand you point... what did you try to say....I did not say a word abt "evenly distributed number".... The law requires random selection, they said/admited it was not random... nothing else needed.
@bogac12345 there is nothing to assume... if your drawing method after each lottery leads to the 1st, 2nd&20th days ticket wins... then it's not RANDOM.
@andreyvl4 The program is designed to be played only once sir, so in all cases the selection is random. In any lottery, if you played the algorithm for the first time it will certainly choose some number (5,8,….etc.). Does that means that number 6 has no fair chances, of course not because he does not know that he is number 6 so as number 5. Also the company that is making the lottery does not know what numbers that will be selected this run. SO it is totally random with fair chances …
@andreyvl4 The DOS claims the selection is not random because it selected most of people from the first two days. So they are talking about another topic which is evenly distributed people on days of month. The law stated random selection and did not mention anything about evenly distributed. So the selection is random but not evenly distributed and no one says that it must be evenly distributed
@totomomo258 I can not see the point in further discussion, since you either do not want to understand or do not really understand the difference between random and not random... tha algorithm of the selection is either random or not, despite how many times you run the selection... 1 or 100 000.
Quite strange computer Engineer in Alexandria University does not know such issue.
you said that if the algorithm is played multiple times it will choose people from the first days. So my reply was that the algorithm plays only one time so no one can know that. So the argument here is that if this selection is random or not. The selection is random, why it is random ? Because no one know in advance the selection criteria even the DOS. The computer chose random persons from all the urn (10% are chosen from other days)(not linear)
@andreyvl4 as the computer selects some people from the first day, some from the second, some from the rest, so it is not linear and it works right. saying it is not random because it has chosen many people from first two days is a wrong claim because this means the selection was not evenly distributed on days but it is still random. I wish I am clear this time... There is a very big difference between randomness (this selection is random) and evenly distribution (this selection is not)
@totomomo258 I said abt running the selection multiple times so you could understand my point... It did not work. OK, np. I'll repeat, if the algorithm makes the same (or very close) selection each time it runs, it can not be called RANDOM. The fact that nobody knew how this algorithm works and nobody could benefit from it DOES NOT make this algorithm random. EVEN if it was used only once. It seems we have different understanding of the term "random", so we'll see it on 12/Jul.
@DrEfremov You are really dumb ass and racist, the way statistics work - you put your left leg in the bucket filled with ice cold watter and your right leg in the bucket filled with boiling watter, but in average between those two you feel really good. Thx god this government is not run by statistic "MAJORS" like you. Keona is Hawaiian name, so your comment about home a bit dumb now (my honest suggestion, think before you comment or better stay away from conversation with another human beings).
@DrEfremov Jesus you such a retard, I had 7 applications from my family members and only my was selected. There was no linear selection. Don't even post anymore, sell you computer and buy yourself some brains, will be more beneficial for you.
All the time you only talk about randomness.
But you TOTALLY IGNORE another rule: all attendants must have the SAME chance!
... but due to the partly selection, most of them never had a chance because they were not among the group of which the computer selected the winners!
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artgrigyan 7 months ago
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artgrigyan 7 months ago
The reason DOS rejected the results was NOT because the computer selected applicants from the first two days. They rejected it because the computer malfunctioned, and the bias selection was thus a consequence of that error. Assuming the malfunctioning of the computer had resulted in the entry of a single individual being selected 100000 times. Would that still be considered random since there was no external influence?
richijontube 7 months ago 2
great great work guys
mohamedmena2 7 months ago
Excellent video. Great Job! Perhaps one more thing you could add is that random does not mean uniform. In fact, a uniform distribution is by definition not random, as you have to make determined decisions in order to have the selectees picked uniformly in time.
R0SS4N4 7 months ago
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distinctpain 7 months ago
@R0SS4N4 Thanks for the input - will consider it for the next one.
TheDvlottery 7 months ago 2
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qewa2000 7 months ago
@DrEfremov Nope. 22k is the number of people who got the NL1 from the website between May, 1 and May, 6. The _total_ number of winners is unknown and presumed to be normal (around 100K).
hashish2007 7 months ago
Assume there are 750 lottery tickets and 4 winning tickets. The tickets are sold 30 days. All 750 tickets have the same chance to win. “After the drawing”;2 of the winning tickets had been purchased on the 1st day, 1 on the second day and the 4th ticket on the 20th day. Now someone says: “the winning tickets came from the 1st, 2nd&20th days. Tickets purchased the other 27 days had no chance of winning. We must cancel the drawing” This does NOT make any sense at all !!..
bogac12345 7 months ago
@DrEfremov
Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment.
I'm not even going to comment on that right now Dude, I just feel sad about you. You should do your homework, before stating something that ridiculous.
Keona2605 7 months ago
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Keona2605 7 months ago
ridiculous... the law requires SELECTION to be random. It was not... run the process 1 mil times and it will select most people in the first 2 days... It's NOT RANDOM. The fact nobody knew that and nobody could benefit from this glitch does not make the selection process random. input data (applications) were random - yes, but the law required the selection process to be random, not input data. If you fail to understand this, then I deeply regret abt your mental abilities
andreyvl4 7 months ago
@andreyvl4 Dear Sir, there is no relation at all between random selection and evenly distributed number. You put people in an urn and you selected 100,000 thousands from the people in the urn. The make random selection on people not on days. By the way I am a computer Engineer in Alexandria University, so I am talking from my strong knowledge and believes.. Evenly distributed numbers are not random by nature as you force them by rules to be selected on a pattern. Dear Sir try to be fair.
totomomo258 7 months ago
@totomomo258 sry... I can not understand you point... what did you try to say....I did not say a word abt "evenly distributed number".... The law requires random selection, they said/admited it was not random... nothing else needed.
@bogac12345 there is nothing to assume... if your drawing method after each lottery leads to the 1st, 2nd&20th days ticket wins... then it's not RANDOM.
andreyvl4 7 months ago
@andreyvl4 The program is designed to be played only once sir, so in all cases the selection is random. In any lottery, if you played the algorithm for the first time it will certainly choose some number (5,8,….etc.). Does that means that number 6 has no fair chances, of course not because he does not know that he is number 6 so as number 5. Also the company that is making the lottery does not know what numbers that will be selected this run. SO it is totally random with fair chances …
totomomo258 7 months ago
@andreyvl4 The DOS claims the selection is not random because it selected most of people from the first two days. So they are talking about another topic which is evenly distributed people on days of month. The law stated random selection and did not mention anything about evenly distributed. So the selection is random but not evenly distributed and no one says that it must be evenly distributed
totomomo258 7 months ago
@totomomo258 I can not see the point in further discussion, since you either do not want to understand or do not really understand the difference between random and not random... tha algorithm of the selection is either random or not, despite how many times you run the selection... 1 or 100 000.
Quite strange computer Engineer in Alexandria University does not know such issue.
andreyvl4 7 months ago
@andreyvl4 Dear Sir,
you said that if the algorithm is played multiple times it will choose people from the first days. So my reply was that the algorithm plays only one time so no one can know that. So the argument here is that if this selection is random or not. The selection is random, why it is random ? Because no one know in advance the selection criteria even the DOS. The computer chose random persons from all the urn (10% are chosen from other days)(not linear)
totomomo258 7 months ago
@andreyvl4 as the computer selects some people from the first day, some from the second, some from the rest, so it is not linear and it works right. saying it is not random because it has chosen many people from first two days is a wrong claim because this means the selection was not evenly distributed on days but it is still random. I wish I am clear this time... There is a very big difference between randomness (this selection is random) and evenly distribution (this selection is not)
totomomo258 7 months ago
@totomomo258 I said abt running the selection multiple times so you could understand my point... It did not work. OK, np. I'll repeat, if the algorithm makes the same (or very close) selection each time it runs, it can not be called RANDOM. The fact that nobody knew how this algorithm works and nobody could benefit from it DOES NOT make this algorithm random. EVEN if it was used only once. It seems we have different understanding of the term "random", so we'll see it on 12/Jul.
andreyvl4 7 months ago
@DrEfremov Not really everyone, because in that case we'd have at least 500 000 winners per day, but the total number was correct (~100 K).
hashish2007 7 months ago
@DrEfremov You are really dumb ass and racist, the way statistics work - you put your left leg in the bucket filled with ice cold watter and your right leg in the bucket filled with boiling watter, but in average between those two you feel really good. Thx god this government is not run by statistic "MAJORS" like you. Keona is Hawaiian name, so your comment about home a bit dumb now (my honest suggestion, think before you comment or better stay away from conversation with another human beings).
Keona2605 7 months ago
@DrEfremov Jesus you such a retard, I had 7 applications from my family members and only my was selected. There was no linear selection. Don't even post anymore, sell you computer and buy yourself some brains, will be more beneficial for you.
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