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  • If things don't change the crap will hit the fan.

  • "Where were you when they decided to take over your country?"

    You: "At home watching American Idol."

  • @oneworldkingdom Not alot we can do... The police are the ones with the guns and the "right" to point them at you unless you do what they say, unless you're a rich bastard, in which case, you probably dont give a fuck about any of this anyway, because you're a rich bastard.

  • and compare to the nasty and devolving USA...... our Glorious Russia! We even have a king there! its so great!

  • Americans still cracking jokes while their government is literally enslaving them.I guess we do not have mental capacity to understand what is really going on here.Police state in full force that is moving towards totalitarian fascism

  • @mmilos11 did you see the new lady gaga video?!?

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  • Ron paul will not be president unfortunatly one is prepicked by the government, mostlikly the next president will be newt gengrich and the will be a sad day

  • So why should I listen to Milton from Office Space? This guy looks very credible with his blinds drawn, and a dog figurine on his desk...

  • The terroist scam is just an excuse to take away our Freedoms.

  • Can anyone say why the FBI and CIA should not be able to communicate about terrorists.?

  • "those who trade liberty for security deserve neither" -Benjamin Franklin

    I bet Franklin is turning in his grave now

  • @FreestylaBoy He's not turning, he's laughing at us for our collective stupidity letting this happen. He was a free mason, he knew that this was a possible outcome for the U.S. The constitution was DESIGNED to allow for authoritarianism if the people were too fat, happy, and dumb to pay attention enough to prevent it. That's why it makes mention of "general welfare" and interstate commerce. That was the backdoor and we let them through.

  • Governors of this country, please put a camera in my bath room, am scared a terrorist will come and kill me.

  • Why so many conspiracy theorists? It's fucking annoying.

  • The Patriot Act Is 342 pages of legislation written in advance of 9/11. The Patriot Act violates 6 of 10 of the Amendments in the Bill of Rights. The majority of Congress voted for the Patriot Act, but did not read it. On 9/11, each twin towers contained approximately 80,000 tons of steel, 60,000 of HVAC, 400,000 cubic yards of concrete,110 floors of furniture,computers, telephones,toilets,plumbing and electrical. The towers fell at free-fall rate. Jet fuel cannot do that! That was DEMOLITION.

  • @esgatch Yeah the whole world knows that just we here in America are overwhelmed by yellow sheeple that fear for their lives and cant even entertain that thought its just too much for the sheeple to come to grips with just another reason our time here is short as the Nukes nowadays are being fit like the stealth bomber with that anti radar skin times short )o,,,

  • Wow these stupid americans live in such safety that they have the time to entertain stupid conspiracy notions. Try living elsewhere for a change. Youll see that what is conjecture in the US is the norm elsewhere.

  • @thebloads If you think this is conspiracy then you're simply denying reality.

  • Teach your kids not to trust cops and to question them at every turn....This is a Police State...

  • This week, accidentally left a gun in a public restroom, and now these fascists tell me i could go to jail for an honest mistake, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO ARREST ME FOR MAKING AN HONEST MISTAKE, RIGHT? This was the first and only time I did this, usually I am a LOT more responsible with my weapon, and I surely will NEVER do this EVER AGAIN! Please repsond SOON! I am VERY SCARED!

  • @libertyphoenix777 You better get a good lawyer, friend.

  • RT is a Russian propaganda channel directly controlled by Putin , channel that all its doing is promote everything possible for damage the USA and its allies in any way possible !!!

    the US people need to know this and take everything RT show in this perspective,

    RT isn't a news channel rather its a Russian propaganda channel against the western world mostly against the US and for promote what ever good for Russia !!!

  • @creatingfl and mainstream US media isn't propaganda driven at all(?) gtfoh

  • Give me your definition of "Police State" and I will introduce you to US legislation and government behavior that appeals to your definition. I'm serious. Try me. This topic is my forte.

  • yahh fuck the fbi, fuck the cops, fuck the cia....they all serve the USSA.

  • paranoid? its paranoid to worry about news craming fear down people's throats? it's paranoid to have vigilante extremists who watch others and spy? it's paranoid to worry about saying bin laden and bomb in certain places then to get handcuffed and arrested? it's paranoid to feel the news talks about nothing but their popular opinions and ignore others?

  • @chrbess9 Leave out the God part and I am with you. Ron Paul could change the world. States rights... Audit the Fed... It all sounds good to me. Sadly, if he did gain momentum I predict that they would rig an election or kill him before he even took office.

  • The Constitution called us all SUBJECTS before the word was erased and replaced with the very dubious word "citizen." This was proven 100 % through microscopic analysis of the ORIGINAL document back in 2008. Ben Franklin was heavily involved in it, and he was a Hell Fire Club elitist who had children's bones pulled from his basement at his old English house by archaeologists back in 2007 !! This guy is right about the pig state, BUT totally brainwashed and STUPID about elitist propaganda.

  • This isn't a democracy - this is corporate fascism. Welcome to wage-slavery...

  • We're even more now like China used to be long ago. People have not caught up to the change in the social situation; It's the lag time that will do them in.

  • she looks hot.. someone sounds jealous

  • Fuck "safety" FREEDOM is everything.

  • @EliteDoomer You give me all your rights and I'll keep you safe. Yeah this sounds like a real bad idea. The Masses are not as ignorant as they were 100 yrs ago.

  • Every generation has to fight for its freedom. EVERY

  • Its interviews like this that make US mainstream media call RT fringe crackpot media.... But RT is so damn legit I want to puke. Especially when I hear that RT is state run media then I hear mainstream US media got large amounts of bailout cash. So whats the difference there? Both are state run. RT doesnt lie about it.

  • RON PAUL 2012 please God

  • @chrbess9 It won't happen, cmon be realistic.

  • @chrbess9

    So you think RP is the exception to the age old formula for tyranny? Dont be so naive my friend. RP is just telling you what you want to hear. The Executive branch hasnt had any real power since 1913 and never will again. RP couldnt change a tire even if he wanted to.

  • @Shockofsanta - WOO HOOO !!! Thank YOU for saying that, as I argue with these Ron Paul worshiping GOONS almost everyday. I take it you are smart enough to know that the electoral college system is what elects the BLOODLINE tyrants, and NOT some stupid little flag waivers with their worthless popular vote. If the system chooses Paul it will just prove 100 % how HANDLED he truly is. Ron Paul and Alex Jones are BOTH elitist wealthy dog shit PIMPING the simple minds of their putrid disciples !

  • @chrbess9 - The ELECTORAL COLLEGE system puts the BLOODLINE tyrants into office, and NOT the people with their worthless popular vote. Ron Paul is an ELITIST BLOODLINE straight from the privileged frat house, I have seen his college yearbook, and what elitist ties this handled BITCH actually has. Go cast a worthless popular vote, and have NO idea that the elites are casting the REAL vote, which is the electoral college vote. BLOODLINE scum like Paul and the rest depend upon your stupidity !!

  • @chrbess9 are you crazy is economic plan would criple us even worse

  • Try dressing like a professional, you look more like a hooker.

  • planorperish(dot)com/?p=2965

  • The people that will be killing Americans (PIGS) Can not work a respectable job.

  • I will tell you learn how to fight back and get out --I have already done this I am serious get out and join those that oppose this filth trash NWO CFR and the other demons...get armed up now those COPS killed that man in Miami and they will continue if you value your freedom and sanity get armed and get out---I have done this and have money and did not need to but see what is happening...time is short..act now ...

  • 911 changed ppls perspective & so did the internet (facebook), cellphones & ipad (google) & other devices allowing anyone to stalk you. any gov agency 2 no where u r anytime of the day. we traded all our liberties just to keep up with the latest fad & gadgets.

  • RT is hilariuos. On their video : 'Stewart follows RT in O'Reilly debate ' the 'reporter' says 'Jon Stewart, America's most trusted newsman' -whch she 'watched last night' LLQQQLL !!!! I now realize that RT is not really propaganda- it just employees only RETARDS

  • she s a hott and sexy geek =P

  • "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." John 16:33

  • @tobigforyou Overcoming the world=enlightenment. : )

  • @Zenstudent105 Not necessarily, to overcome He meant just that, overcome. He means that even though we might suffer in this life, a Christian in the end will be victorious because he will live forever with Christ.

    while as the world will perish.

  • The world has NOT changed.....Wake Up!

  • You see this crap on arresting people for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial? THIS GUY SPEAKS THE TRUTH.

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  • Why is it that neither this gal, nor Anderson Cooper can pronounce the word "important" It has two 't's' , they both sound like they have the same speech impediment. And since when did 'to' become 'tuh' . They both need speech therapy.

    Where are the grammar cops in this police state?

  • @SaneBoomer Their pronunciation is a matter of accent. The grammar is unchanged.

  • Demand the Fair Tax Initiative. It makes the most sense for everyone, and yet our government wants nothing to do with it.

  • 911 and the war on terror is one of the biggest hoaxs in history. ever since its been there excuse to do what they want. I must say it worked very well for them.

  • The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) has been showing that we have the ability to generate energy, food, housing, health and education for everyone in the world, while, at the same time, we are able to ELIMINATE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS along with corruption, poverty, abuse of power, unemployment, social stratification, and other factors that hinder the life and sustainability of the planet and its inhabitants.To know more about it, watch: "Zeitgeist Addendum" - It is on youtube

    :)

    FS

  • @FactualSolutions Zeitgiest: Moving Forward is newer than Addendum

  • @xRA1D32x - Thanks for the info - i use to tell people to watch Z2 first rather than z3.

    :)

    FS

  • Hey look is that the same sleeping giant from WWII?.....IT IS.... poke it with a stick....Guys I think its dead

  • The paranoia of the US government is like the paranoia of Stalin: continuously looking over your shoulder if people are after you. Give it up US your time has come.

  • btw why do americans have to turn to russiatoday to hear about important issues like the patriot act? or the lack of prosecution of people responsible for banking fraud that crippled the economy?

  • @DickOPlenty Maybe Russians are more patriotic than Americans.

  • @DickOPlenty Maybe because the American government and the same bankers who crippled the economy don't control RT like they do with American media. We're more communistic than people know.

  • im surprised he did get taken away during the interview

  • 14 in denial

  • I love Lauren

  • what is this nonsense about communism? its a fascist police state not communism. communism is about protecting everyone against nutjobs like delusional religious nuts and mafia etc. if communists had a police state it was to protect people from the nutjobs within the country and groups within the country financed by the cia to create chaos and instability.

    what we have in america is a fascist police state. it's AGAINST the people on behalf of the banks and billionaires.

  • the police state is here. they implemented it slowly so people wouldn't notice.

  • God, I fear for my life in this country. Perhaps they'll understand when the Police come for a majority of people and there is blood shed in our streets. They'll start the war, American people will finish it. v_v Idiot pigs and politicians.

  • @wikifacts and why was it so important for the western ''media'' to hysterically blame Putin non stop ?

  • @wikifacts it's plausible, but why england gave refuge to some of them then ?

  • @wikifacts to point finger at Putin ? no ? false flag op it's called :- / the same reason MI6 killed litvinenko in the most british manner...

  • @wikifacts to point finger at Putin ? no ? false flag op it's called :- /

  • @wikifacts what's behind that deadly cucambers attack in Germany and Holland ? is it somehow connected to the capture of the journalist killer on MI6 payroll in Chechnia today ? thanks Heaven for the Belgium !...

  • @wikifacts CIA or State Dept. payroll/insurance ? ~_~'

  • @wikifacts although retired NGOs subvers... hmm, operatives have lesser problems with their insurances than regular americians, no ?

  • @wikifacts u have lesser problems with police now than in 1980 cuz u are an old fart. statistically old farts tend to have more problems with doctors & medical insurance mafia in america than with the cops. dahh...

  • she's SooHoTT =P

    SexyGeek =P

  • First they came for the communists,

    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,

    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,

    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me

    and there was no one left to speak out for me

    (martin Niemoller) Get ready its comming for those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

  • wikifacts... You think because there are not many terrorists it's because of the measures in place? Really? Lol... So where are all the reports of terrorists in america before the so called terror attacks? Also if their were loads of terrorists before, how many have been arrested and prosecuted? Because of the anti terrorist measures? Come on lets see the facts, show us the figures!

  • The patriot act criminalies all Americans!, as it was intended.

  • @wikifacts The anti-vampire programs are working too...not many of them around.

  • Welcome to the United Fascist States of Corporate America

  • @mordred612 don't you mean the Vatican inspired United Nations

  • @mordred612 USA has been completely taken over by BIG BANKS and CROOKED JEWS just like HITLER feared would happen and reason he KILLED then all dumped thier asses into giant SEPTIC tank good.FUckin JEWS took over MEDIA,BANKS, now showing what kind of TRASH SADSISTIC filth they are WIENER fuckin PERVERT thats all of them.why do youthink MUslims made out to be terroristsall MADE UP to drive US military to kill them off.Get guns and learn explosive now and get out for they will hunt everyone down!

  • @mordred612 I heard the 'Divided States of Embarrassment' once, thought that was funny.

  • @jackdtroughton or what was once the land of opportunity has become the land of opportunists.

  • Obama is a sly motherfucker

  • Whoever is for Obama is for losing all your freedoms you have now. He is behind all that is happening now, Bush is gone and things are getting worse.

    Vote out Obama and this will stop.

  • This lady says that these changes are accepted by Americans. She's lying. These changes that are infringing upon our freedoms are NOT accepted and the only thing way they can do this to us is by threat of force.

  • I am Agree with you on that. No question About it. You Got that one.I admit it like a Man. But. I want you to know that is also hard to keep up with 3 languages ...I wonder how many languages can you speak and write ? LMAO.

    To me you are the worse....some of the people here know you as the Crazy pepperoni gay. They can't even stand you. No ones like you here. And . That. Is so fucked up and is a fact . Poor of you. Good bye Low Class Pepperoni Mother fucker.hahaha

  • Is this interview by someone's fantasy librarian?

  • @zck7 hothothothothothohtohtohtoht

  • wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 'classified Patriot Act'??!!

  • bottom line...Obama is the prophesied antichrist from the book of Revelation...the worst is yet to come...these are the last days...see my vids on these things...before it's too late

  • @daryllawsonCA

    Screw you and your prophesies... YOU ARE THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST! YOU AND THE REST OF THE FOX-BOTS AND TEA-BAGGING DIPSHITS! THOSE WHO "CLAIM" TO OWN JESUS YET ACT IN OPPOSITION TO HIS TEACHINGS. GFY you cartoon flake. it's always YOU assholes who wind up sniffing tweak with your male prostitutes and knock up your own daughters. Obama seems to be trying to clean up the f-ing mess your last messiahs (cheney/bush) perpetrated with their trust-fund greed and tyranny - fuck you!

  • @daryllawsonCA dumb

  • the world has changed.. wake the fuck up

  • @ExtraordinaryKnight You're talking to sheep.

    The only thing they're waking up for is to stampede into their local walmart for the Ipad 2.

  • @ExtraordinaryKnight Oh please... the world changes all the time! Just open up a history book.

  • does john not know that the U.S. and israel are the terrorists??

  • @cdimmm other than the idiocy of the Bush era, how bad is America really? Vietnam was a result of cold war pressures so dont count that one either

  • Police state indeed: watch?v=2Dy2YSRFPb0&feature=fe­edf

  • "sneak peek"?! billy, get your guns.

  • The police state will only get worst as time goes on.

  • This entire segment is pure Bulls#!t. this same type of paranoia took hold in the U.S. in 1950-54', during that time period they also violated civil liberties. back then they were looking for the "evil" Communist Spies instead of Jihadist. that movement was called "McCarthyism", it was named after the Dumb Ass Republican Senator that claimed that there were communist spies behind every corner, but provided no proof of his claims.

    You people should really research your stories. Amateurs!

  • The police are out of control, we are a police state now, watch out citizens. Maybe an Egypt in Americais needed

  • Obama= NWO puppet : Obama promised to repeal the patriot act,instead he has expanded it for another 4 years.Obama promised to end the illegal wars ,which are still raging on today after more than 10 years.Obama promised to close Guantanamo Bay ,its still open for business and torture.Can anyone here tell me one ,,just one thing Obama has accomplished since being elceted?Beside taking away your civil liberties one at a time.

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  • im telling you we gotta stop this.. years from now we wont have any choice , these fucking pigs are guna think they have every right to stop us because were hispanic or black or of some ethnicity if we turn around and put bullets in there ass what tha fuck are they guna do, remember there are more of us than them fuck the gov't dnt trust them lets take back whats ours and its tru we cnt just comment we gotta do something or kiss your freedom goodbye , god bless america but not these bastards

  • Transformation below the middle class' minds.lol Like the change to kill off Melaninted majority, cause Supposedly we affect the English and paid off overseers interests, so now the world takes notice as a new US. I guess the media lies, all murderes, imprisonment and no international status on Non celeb Afro-ameican & Natives lives over 440 years. They pay off half the populations 2 kill and silence the black masses. We R Moor than what your jewish media puppet masters want u 2 believe..

  • Crap, the big government probably know what your sexuality is by checking with your Google/Youtube history.

    They probably can arrest me for watching lesbian porn at home.

  • Sorry guys!! But everybody with a good brain; an intelligent brain, knows that 911 was an inside job; done by Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rice; to start the wars in the middle east. And the International Bankers/Illuminati kingpins ordered it. And next; they will demand that everybody take their zombie making and mind controlling, Mark of the Beast chip. Revelation 13 & 14 talks about this. And if you take it; you will forever be cursed by God, 24/7. Hells flames and fury awaits them!! 

  • @moses737

    You're joking right? 

  • @ronmorris88 Yeah? Vote for me and I will put something in the water.

  • This institute he works for is a Christo-fascist organization. It hates everyone and everything that people who support real individual freedom. They are not interested in a republic and certainly not in a democracy. Their real target it to make the USA over into a theocracy - think Iran with crosses and bibles instead of mosques and Korans. Same thing.

  • Its not about a country, religion, race or political party anymore.. When are we going to stop watching, debating and commenting? Almost enough see it now! When are we going to take our world back from the cancer that has meticulously and methodically enslaved the human race? Are we lambs or lions? I pray we have the courage & wisdom to be both!!

  • The FBI was doing exactly the sorts of things the Patriot Act has legalised throughout the 30s, 40s, 50s & 60s except then it was to fight gangsters and Communists. During the 60s many of the abuses were made public through the press and other outlets. I would recommend "The FBI Nobody Knows" by F J Cook to anyone interested. Many of the abuses were curbed; these have now been reinstated and institutionalised into law by the Pat. Act.

  • @colourmegone Very interesting and true. Would RICO be part of that. They used RICO on all kinds of people outside of traditional organized Crime.

  • Hell yeah we have terrorists running around USA. The SWAT teams and the illegal brown skinned gangsters...rounded out by the ziobolshevik politicians that steal trillions, Bernanke printing trillions and wrecking value of our dollars. My pension has been destroyed by terrorists alright.

  • You can't legislate securiy by sticking guns in people's faces, aka taxes and laws enforced by federal thugs like the TSA, IRS, CIA etc...

    THe best thing you can do to change the system is to watch it fail, nothing is stoppig this collapse in dollarand liberty

    Prepare for a time of insolvency, the US dollar is fucked!

    Let this be the most important warning for fiat currency and bloated governments, how many Rome's must we see. FIAT Always dies 45 year average in fact, & we're at 40

  • This is just a lie. Oh btw,public dancing is dangerous and you should be all arrested.Everyone should spend a week in jail to be a good patriot! Man,I've had sex in public so many times I should be allowed to live anywhere but Guantanamo. :)

  • Maybe the terrorists that flew the planes into the twin towers had calculated by destroying those two U.S. symbols would destroy the U.S. as a free state.

    Remember G.W. Bush telling "Al Quaida will not change our lives" But it seems Al Quaida has, be it with the assistense of the U.S. government by patriot act.

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  • Think tanks/tax exempt foundations have been systematically revising history books/curriculum in all levels of education in such a way as to diminish the role that the people en masse & more importantly, civic knowledge & duty, have played in achieving the gains that are now ascribed to dead politicians. Compare any dusty old school book to contemporary editions if still in doubt. We are being herded into civically uninvolved capitalist collectivism. Research Norman Dodds or Reece Committee info

  • Another indicator of the US is a police state... just a few days ago a federal court ordered TSA to do security at a Santa Fe high school prom.

    And let's not forget the Amish who were invaded by a swat team, guns drawn for selling raw milk.

  • LOOK OUT the College educated CRIMINAL

  • @IgorVasilevskii- Fuck americans?

  • @MrSolrac2005 , yes FUCK AMERICANS! I am American and it makes me sick that so many are so fuckin ignorant and arrogant. It isn';t my imagination either. From when I went to school and the USA was rated in the TOP 10 educationally. Today we are at the bottom ranked #42. So fuck yes, FUCK AMericans!

  • @mondocrat How can you say fuck americans when you yourself claim your an american. Aren't you saying fuck yourself as well.

  • @MrSolrac2005 loooooooooooooolllllll !

  • @envanje ?

  • you can't dance at the jefferson memorial- when i was in Highschool me and my girlfriend skipped pennies on the reflection pool..i guess we were pseudo tangos.

  • i forgot wikifacts... MrVit, Igor, And wikifacts all three are spam trolls. Please help the comments section by marking everything they say as "spam", to make room for real people with real comments. thanks

  • Don't forget to mark as SPAM everything MrVit and Igor say - they just spread brainless trash comments, spam boards with irrelevant junk, and invite more spam from people responding to their trash talk.

    the SPAM function was created with people like them in mind.

  • "Al Qaeda" is a CIA operation. Nothing else anyone says to be accounted for when the simple fact that "Al Qaeda" being a CIA operation is unaccounted for. Duh!

    9/11 was an inside job. Everyone with functioning brain cells knows that. It's absurd the philosophize over the broader issues without first understanding the two simplest facts. The CIA operates "Al Qaeda" and 9/11 was an inside job. DUH!

  • I personally do not think that Americans have seen anything as of yet! You will see in due time as to how out of control it will eventually get. It actually would have already happened by now if it were not for statism/welfare/etc.

  • @slhines7 I agree. If you keep everyones bellies full through foodstamps you don't see the bread lines and the people rioting in the streets. As long as they can pay for welfare thing should hold together. That is unless China does something like revalue the Yuan.

  • @dpla5762 Glad that you too agree and are aware of what is going on. Who knows and we shall see as to what transpires in due time. Things are currently being supressed and manipulated. Anything could possibly happened like the revaluation of the Yuan or even a possibly dollar collapse, then hyperinflation. Who knows.

  • ASSR American Social Socialist Republic......

  • @avionicswirenut americans are too lazy. They are already prisoners from circumcision, but their abhorrent stolen wealth is making them not only prisoners in their body but prisoners of delusions as well.

  • Thumbs up to end circumcision in the world !!!

  • Maybe it's time for some of us to gobble down a powered form of the 'red' pill with an ice cold cup of water.

  • The US is the Huge Terrorist Threat!!

  • Ok its prolly not half, 46%... something

  • Goddamn right its null and void along w/ half the us's laws

  • Isn't the Patriot Act technically null and void because it's unconstitutional?

  • @carm3d Taxes are unconstitutional and that never stopped the government from taking taxes. Fifth amendment: ''No person ... shall be compelled in a criminal case to be a witness against himself". How can you file a tax return and not have it used against you?

  • @ace1122tw It doesn't stop them from the attempts... But they only succeed when the public allows this power to become real. My point is, these things are fought in court, with some degree of success. So with these same efforts wouldn't the patriot act also not hold up under such legal scrutiny?

  • @ace1122tw Taxes are constitutional, see Article I, section 2 and section 8. The unlawful application that is commonly referred to as IRS HUMBUG in which an illegal kickback in the name of tax is coerced upon the dupes is what you should say is unconstitutional. There is no law in all of Title 26 that makes it mandatory for anyone to file any income tax return. The law requires a RETURN OF INCOME from those people to whom it applies. Even they don't have to be a witness against themselves.

  • @carm3d they use it every day to spy on you and arrest people with no charge. not so null and void