People are so ignorant to ignore the fact that Israel is only trying to defend itself against the terrorist cowards Hamas who have taken over the gaza strip, Hamas is the reason there is still hate, stupidity, and ignorance in the middle east and many americans are brainwashed to hate Israel when they should stand behind them. LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!
No matter how one may empathize with the sufferings of countless numbers of Palestinians and they have a good cause to dissent, one must not forget the Muslim world is prone to terrorism, hate, bigotry and anything unislamic . Islam is really a dangerous religion, and I think the main problem in the middle east is religion right now and which is the cause for the hate, senseless stupidity and when one human could enact such horrid calamity.
What about the countless rockets fired into Israeli civilian areas? no concern or criticism there I see and also what about the political ideology called islamism?
@FeignofCordor Palestinian rockets have killed a total of 22 Israelis in the last 11 years. On the other hand, nearly 1000 women and children were killed in Gaza in 2008 alone. That was a very nice Christmas gift from the IDF by the way.
I don`t know the proper figures of deaths and injuries on both sides but I don`t measure this by who killed the most but by who always starts the attacking and intent . That is why I support Israel. If you disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah there would be peace and no killing but if you disarmed the IDF there would be mass slaughter and genocide and it would be done to shouts of " Allah Akbar " and the world knows it
I don`t know the proper figures of deaths and injuries on both sides but I don`t measure this by who killed the most but by who always starts the attacking and intent . That is why I support Israel. If you disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah there would be peace and no killing but if you disarmed the IDF there would be mass slaughter and genocide and it would be done to shouts of " Allah Akbar " and the world knows it
@FeignofCordor Why did Israel break the ceasefire in 2008 and kill nearly 1000 Palestinian civilians in Gaza when according to the IDF Hamas fired 0 rockets into Israel? Hamas was elected into power because Palestinians knew there was NO diplomatic road to peace with Israel. Just like you see now, whenever they try to ask the world for a Palestinian state at the UN, the US slaps them in the face and tells them to sit down. So much for diplomacy. Hezbollah was created AFTER Israel invaded Lebanon
I know of no such time in 2008 when Israel attacked first without provocation. Palestinian Terrorists have always attacked first and they have never sort peace with Israel. I also don`t think the Palestinians have ever asked for statehood before. The UN agreed that Israel is a state back in 1948 but Palestinian authorities and muslims world wide never want peace with Israel. Its Ishmael fighting Isaac
@FeignofCordor Israel invaded Gaza and killed 1300 people and 900 of them were civilians. And that was using state-of-the-art accurate to the tip of a needle technology while the Palestinians killed 13 Israelis, 10 of them were soldiers, using rockets that barely go in a straight line. You tell me who the terrorists are?
Why do you hate Islam which is the only religion in the world other than Christianity that believes in the virgin birth, yet you support the people who call Mary a whore?
@FeignofCordor Israel invaded Gaza and killed 1300 people and 900 of them were civilians. And that was using state-of-the-art accurate to the tip of a needle technology while the Palestinians killed 13 Israelis, 10 of them were soldiers, using rockets that barely go in a straight line. You tell me who the terrorists are?
Why do you hate Islam which is the only religion in the world other than Christianity that believes in the virgin birth, yet you support the people who call Mary a whore?
@FeignofCordor According to B'Tselem, the exact number was 1385 Palestinians, 375 were Palestinian combatants. 13 Israelis, 10 were soldiers. I can't post links here so you have to just look on the B'Tselem website. See what kind of terrorists these Israelis are?
The Bible says "Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus, that spirit is not from God". According to your own Bible, Islam is from God!
I looked up B`Tselem and they`re a human rights group I couldn`t find your figures on there site but I did find this article. "Since the beginning of the al-Aqsa intifada, there has been a sharp increase in the number of attacks perpetrated by Palestinian organizations against Israeli civilians. These attacks have killed hundreds of Israelis and wounded thousands, including many minors, inside Israel and in the Occupied Territories." I take it you`re against this terrorism ?
@FeignofCordor there was no hamas nor hezbollah before israel started occupying the area..so according to your analogy you are suppose to support the palestinian people because obviously this whole thing started when zionists started occupying land by force kicking palestinians out of their homes and killing them ..etc
Show me proof of this Jewish violent kicking of Palestinians out of their homes and killing them back then? I know a different story to the one you know. A story of Arab countries telling the Palestinians to flee and the Arab armies will clear the land of Jews and then they can come back but we all know how that plan went. If the Arabs care so much for the Palestinians why is it they are barred from entering Arab countries and allowed to settle?
@Swordisk How exactly does this change the fact that Israel has been occupying the West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza (by way of the land, sea and air blockade)? How does this change the fact that Israel expropriates Palestinian land to build illegal settlements? How does this change the fact that Israel violates the human rights of Palestinians? How does this change the fact that Israel bombed hospitals, schools and Mosques (in some cases with white phosphorus), killing 700 civilians?
@steute2011 Hows does that change the fact that Israel is surrounded by five hostile nations seeking its destruction, hows does it change the fact that hamas uses its people as human shields, and buildings rocket factories under the same schools, hospitals, and mosques, and expropriates Palestinian national self determination for terrorism? How does it explain that israel occupies those lands for national security, and gives more rights to Palestinians there than any arab state in the region?
@Swordisk I think with regard to your first question, you might be stuck in 1948? If not, please tell me what the five hostile nations seeking Israels destruction are? I know of Hamas in Gaza, which is not a nation and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Egypt and Jordan have had peace with Israel for decades. Please tell me what source you have used to develop the opinion that Hamas used human shields and stored weapons in hospitals, schools and Mosques? Or are you just parroting the Israeli narrative?
@steute2011 and when it comes to human rights violations, China haskilled 3.5 million tibetans since 1955, and 1.5 million only in the 1970s. Or how about the human rights violations that Russia commits within chechnya killing more than 100,000 people with the span of a decade and half, why dont people ever talks about that? Why is it when israel overracts to the situation in Gaza people called it a militartistic, appartheid, genocidal state that should be condemed.
@Swordisk In case you are interested in a few sources that are not affiliated with either side. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, The International Red Cross, Doctors without Borders, B'Tselem. These are organizations that did thorough investigations and or produced reports on the massacre in Gaza. Notice I left out the UNHRC report, better known as the Goldstone report, in an effort to save you from claiming bias.
@steute2011 You wanna talk human rights violations, how about making actual claims, who voted hamas in? The Palestinians right? Who openly outspoke Israels destruction as their election campaigen, Hamas right? So a fraction of the problem goes to the people themselves in Gaza. But lets focus on the bigger picture, israel is not a perfect state, but unlike its five major neighbours it does not have the luxury to take a liberal aproach to its security, therefore it will over react
@Swordisk when it comes to its own security, and its the only nation the will court marshall its own generals and military personel when it does unlaw actions against the palestinians in gaza or the west bank. Israel did many palestinians since 1948, but those were from wars, and PLO raids, the number 50,000 in 63 years. Unlike China who has killed 3.5 million tibetans since 1955, and 1.5 million only in the 1970s when there was peaceful protest in Lhasa and Peking.
@Swordisk You what I accept the second half of your argument, because it's a fair statement. Most people will not even admit that Israel has made some mistakes. However the first half of your comment suggests that people should be collectively punished for their choice of elected representatives. Perhaps you have not considered that 40% of Palestinians did not vote for Hamas and the huge portion of the population that were children and therefore did not vote.?
@steute2011 children should not be blamed for islamic extremism, my point is that while israel overracts to the situation in gaza it is blamed for being a appartheid, militaristic, genodical state that should be condemed. While china, russian, turkey have killed hundreds, hundreds of thousands, and millions (in china's case) of people, I hear nothing at york. And yet israel is blamed more extremely for a smaller crimes, while the bigger crime is completely ignored, explain to me is why is that?
@Swordisk I completely understand where you are coming from and it's very true. Even my own country (US) has committed much more serious offenses against civilians. I think that my problem is that I hold the Jewish people to a higher standard, as I am sure they do themselves. The Jewish people have some of the brightest minds amongst them and have brought the world many wonderful things, but the occupation is not one of them.
@steute2011 Well my friend maybe you should hold all people to equal standards, that way your judgement is not clouded. Remember the thing that Israel wants the most is peace, right the so called "occupation" allows palestinians to leave at peace, and free. I have been to israel multiply times and spoken to the arab population there, and they for most part see arabs leaving under jews as nothing wrong, since they are brothers, like jews that have leaving under arabs for hundreds of years.
@Swordisk I would love to hold all peoples to the same standard, but I think as the democracies we proclaim to be, we must be held to a higher standard. If not, then we are no better than the tyrants we propose to be fighting against. Don't you think? I will tell you, I have often thought of how nice it would be if Hamas could be completely eliminated from the picture and then create one secular democracy? Just wishful thinking!
@steute2011 Hamas only came into the picture in 2006, how about the other 58 years of Israeli occupation and persecution of Palestinian women and children? Israel is an illegal apartheid state, and like South Africa, it too will fall.
@rezabeza Make no mistake, I am an outspoken supporter of the Palestinian plight. However, I do not agree with the tactics of Hamas. I do not believe that the Palestinian people can achieve their goal of an independent state with Hamas in the picture. I realize the brutal oppression being imposed on the Palestinian people and I agree that Israel will fall if it does not end the occupation.
@steute2011 children should not be blamed for islamic extremism, my point is that while israel overracts to the situation in gaza it is blamed for being a appartheid, militaristic, genodical state that should be condemed. While china, russian, turkey have killed hundreds of thousands, and millions (in china's case) of people, I hear nothing at york. And yet israel is blamed more extremely for a smaller crimes, while the bigger crime is completely ignored, explain to me is why is that?
The 1st is that of "A land without a people for a people without a land." This myth was sedulously cultivated by early Zionists to promote the fiction that Palestine was a remote, desolate place ready for the taking. This claim was quickly followed by denial of Palestinian identity, nationhood or legitimate entitlement to the land in which the Palestinian people have lived throughout their recorded history.
The 2nd is the myth of Israeli democracy. Innumerable newspaper stories or television references to the Israeli state are followed by the assertion that it is the only "real" democracy in the Middle East. In fact, Israel is as democratic as the apartheid state of South Africa. Civil liberty, due process and the most basic human rights are by law denied those who do not meet racial, religious criteria.
The 3rd myth is that of "security" as the motor force of Israeli foreign policy. Zionists maintain that their state must be the fourth largest military power in the world because Israel has been forced to defend itself against imminent menace from primitive, hate-consumed Arab masses only recently dropped from the trees.
The 4th myth is that of Zionism as the moral legatee of the victims of the Holocaust. This is at once the most pervasive and insidious of the myths about Zionism. Ideologues for the Zionist movement have wrapped themselves in the collective shroud of the six million Jews who fell victim to Nazi mass murder. The bitter and cruel irony of this false claim is that the Zionist movement itself actively colluded with Nazism from its inception.
@TheDamasceneSteel I'm actually from Lebanon and before that my family came from from Arab Spain (aka Al-Andalus) before it was taken over by the Christians; before they lived in Spain/Al-Andalus they lived in Israel (you know the place of the Jews, were all the ancient artifacts are and prove that is our land)
@Pooply21 Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750 he made the conquest almost to the EU but failed in the end he did get Spain and like you said Al-Andalus is the place.
The Jews are no longer the victims...Arabs need to stop rocket attacks..You havent a chance against such a powerful army that lives for an eye for an eye..
Wow...asteroids raining down ... but even more hilarious is the threat of thermonuclear bombs on Hezbollah ....but israel didn't cuz they are "good people"
Wrong. israel doesn't go nuclear, it doesn't dare hence the whole world see its true colors, which would be a good thing although a lot of dead people
Right now and as always israel hides under a blanket of security done by the American Mass Media and israel doesn't want to ruin that....not yet anyway.
That the Palestinian population elected a known terrorist group to represent them indicates a strong anti-Semitic stance in Gaza toward the Jewish population of Israel and support of violence against Jews of all regions. The Israeli government’s decision to defend itself and its Jewish population against this Palestinian threat is entirely justified.
@Silverwire100 ... Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.... I hope you were directing your stupid comments towards Americans because the rest of the world knows the difference.
@BamenYaros Maybe the Jews you know, but 1/3 of North American Jews support israel but hate Israel's racist policies, 1/3 don't care either way and 1/3 are supportive of israel through thick and thin. keep telling your stupid lies to American the rest of the World is on to your tricks... I no longer support the two state solution... Israel does not want peace my generation now wants ALL OF PALESTINE.. THERE IS NO MAKING PEACE WITH ZIONISTS, U people only understand force.
@tdot22 I think you are right..but thats what I said u r just misusing the word Zionis...I live in Canada most of the Jewish population is cloistered and its more like 80% supportive of Israel through thick and thin (100% in the Jewish neighborhood) 10% don't care 5% support Israel but not its policies and 5% are ANTI-Zionist
people who use the phrase 'you people' have no legitimacy we dont only understand force but from 70 AD to 1945 the world has been trying to kill us we were David and our oppressors were goliath...since in67 we have been goliath but we think we are David this is the ecesnse of the Israeli Palestinian conflict
my advice to u muslims is to unite..arabs at leastt should unite to balance Israels power and only then can we have real peace..as long as weare delusional and hold all the cards peace is impossible
@BamenYaros don't need to....If a small non-state actor like Hezbollah armed with light arms can hold off the Israeli Military for over a month, no one is scared of Israeli Military anymore all you can do is kill unarmed civilians in Gaza, and fight rock throwing children you can longer fight..... We dont want Jenin we will win Jaffa, we dont want Hebron we will conquer Haifa...enjoy it while you can it took as 100 years to kick the Crusaders out, America wont be around forever to protect u..
@tdot22 Ok then like everyone else who has defeated the Jews you will be destroyed from above...asteroids maybe If you displace us you will b destroyed soon after...no one has EVER messed with the Jews and surived we will destroy you economies and Hashem will rain hell on you--until there int one of u left...dont bielive me..this si whathappened to the Bablyon, Nazis, Romans, Soviets,Byzantines I could go on...
@BamenYaros ... IF you used your thermonuclear device that actually would have been better as oppossed to the millions of cluster bombs you dropped before the ceasefire, there is nothing good about a Zionist, the only good Zionist is a dead Zionist, America is bankrupt, it will only last maybe 30 40 years more as a power once America is bankrupt no one will be there to protect you....You refuse to make peace , we will make you to pieces.
@BamenYaros suck my chechen black haired dick , you zionist asshole. you do all you can to take palestinian land , and still pretend with deep hypocrisy " would could do that we could do that but we do not coz we are humans" well i got news for you jackass, we know who you really are. so dont waste your time on efforts :-@
@BamenYaros Insha Allah i dream about taking part in WW lll between muslims and non-muslims. i would strike my sword first on the neck of zionist. imagine yourself- a coward hiding behind the nuclear bombs going back to 1600 years at a bayonet charge in a battlefield against me an honourable muslim man who is afraid of only Allah , i would drink your blood if God would not curse me for that. I dont hate jews, there are good people among them too, but i hate you and those like you.
@BamenYaros i'm not threatening you, i gave you a hint ))))))) , if we were 1600 back in time. we can handle america, russian and with the china if God Almighty has a will, dont you think so ? yet jews are believed to be religious people,
@abrekize bro i want peace...and I understand tht for tht to happen yull need full control of the the Haram al Sharif and a bunch of other stuff...
but seriously im a bit traumatized by the whole 'i would drink your blood' thing...im hoping yur some sort of strange vampire fanatic and aren't serious.
@BamenYaros ok, what you want me to say ?))))) do not dramatize it )) , you 've got me angry and I have erupted what's inside me. I never drank human blood so far)). We all know the situation in Gaza, and when Zionists simulate themselves as peaceful jews while endlessly killing Palestinians , what else can you axpect from muslims ?
"Israel's illigal occupation of Gaza" - Funny, but Israel does not occupy Gaza! actually, Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians a few years ago! These protestors don't even know what they are protesting about!
@Megadude12345 Israel controls the airspace, borders, waterfront of Gaza...... each lie you tell just buries your credibility... even Americans are getting sick of your lies now... No more 67 borders you people dont want peace.... we are going to take ALL OF PALESTINE BACK!!!
if people are against israel killing palestinians, it isn't because they are against palestinian deaths, only deaths caused by israel, because hamas actually kills more palestinians, and nobody complains about that.
I like how the first word out of every anti-Israel person EVER (especially here)'s mouth is 'this is not anti-semetic, this is not against Jewish people'. Like saying that makes it so, or makes it okay. By supporting movements that wish to wipe the Jewish State off the map by pushing its inhabitants into the sea, and frequently calling for their blood, etc, how can it be anything BUT anti-semitic? Just saying its not doesn't make it so. That;s like saying 'i dont hate jews, I hate Zionists'
@sabradan Which are one and the same. Zionism being the movement for a national homeland for the Jews, in their historical homeland (the most broad and direct definition of zionism). if you are against Zionism, then you are therefore either: a. Against Jewish self-determination, which IS anti-semitic, or b. An uneducated moron who has no right to be speaking on an issue you know nothing about.
After the 7/7 bombing in London we saw something so similar as happen on 9/11 in NY, YES the ICTS security company(MOSSAD) to do with the underground trains in London and YES the same ICTS security company(Mossad) to do with all the Airports on 9/11 in USA. And in London on 7/7 and on 9/11 had also drills and then hidden bombes. Well you know about 200 Mossad guys that had to go. And yes the Israel minister lied to the media since the police never phoned him.
Our great company Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo employees (ZIONIST), however, did not pass the warning on to the authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands of lives."
Yes our GREAT ZIONIST (Mossad) at Odigo knew The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
YES "saving only Jewish lives" , NOT Gentile (or non-Jew)
Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."
israeli bitches!! if only god had given them testicles, they wudn't have taken it in the ass in europe and run like bitches to the hospitable palestinians who welcomed them with arms wide open until the zionist scum started doing the same things they were doing in germany and the rest of europe and started stealing palestinian land!!
@MrValzen i wonder why, with teaching like its ok to steal the goyum's land, its ok to kill the goy indirectly and Mary being a whore.. with all these talmudic teachings and more, is it really a surprise why muslims (and all goyum) have hated jews?? its only a surprise to those assholes who take the word of the pharasies over the word of god, OH wait, thats the jews only!!! so go fuck urself bitch!! u faggots love playing the victim..
Israel is the reason of all dictators in the arabworld. Freedom to palestine and all jews from Europe should with all respect to jews, go back home, Palestine belong to the palestinians, not russians, hungarians etc.
Free Palestine now for fuck sakes what is the hold up? All the rich fucks need to make money off the weapon factories so they send military aid to Israel who completely ass rape the innocent women and children of Palestine, the world has seen enough, chosen people my ass.
Before hitler died he said "i'm going to let some jews live...so you can see how they really are"...i can see what he meant now. Everywhere these guys go they distroy peace in that region. You can't live with these guys. Palestine was nice enough to let the fukers live and they repay them by throwing bombs on their heads and laughing at it...and then they act like they are the "good guys"...go fuk urself assholes. Palestine should have made u jews rot and die in the sea
fucking jews wonder why in every era there is some kind of race that wants to eliminate them. They just go to every country, sits down and claims that its theirs now. we need another hitler <3
anybody on gaza side were there to promote terror & hatred ??? Ummmm hmmm Good one retard! Go watch more Fox News and eat off your mommy and daddies money. Im gonna feed some hungry kids who just had the house stolen! Oops guess what, IDF = TERROR. AND MOHAMMEDs(PBUH) NAME IS IN HEBREW IN THE OLD TESTAMENT!
@Mirza247 & what u 'saw' (relying on sensationalist tv doesn't count) is propaganda, actually live there for a few years before saying that u know something, u will never know otherwise. the palestinians in gaza segregate themselves, u think any other country would allow thousands of people who intentionally kill women & children walk freely? & no they don't just use stones stop playing the fool, they used guns, rockets, suicide bombings etc. & the IDF never intentionally kill children u idiot
its not just a case of "more palestinian deaths" (most from hamas). 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
@oc00011 Excuse me if your media doesn't portray the deaths that occurred weekly in the West Bank and Gaza....I was also a child when I saw the bloodshed that the Israeli Army inflicted on Palestinian children...The pictures of them standing over children with guns raised as they threw stones. I've seen the bulldozers, the bombs the segregation and the Massive wall built onPalestinian land and in the back gardens of homes in the West Bank
@donnely138 the americans were warned to stay out of the waters anywhere near Egypt & Israel. The fighters planes that attacked her mistook her for an enemy ship. Only later did Israel find out the ship was American. if the americans heeded the Israeli warnings & not been spying on israel's actions in the war the ship never would have been put in harms way.. if u can't see how radical islamists (not the peaceful muslims) want world conquest then u need to do more research.
hahah theres a paki at 1:40, doesnt he have a variety store to run lol i dont give a fuck bout the issue a dead muslim is a good muslim far as im concerned
@OneManWolfPak You moron. Many of the people killed are Christians. Its one of the predominate religions in Palestine... you must watch alot of Zionist controlled news media in the US.
@OneManWolfPak Oh, so you're one of those neck-bearded atheist who is more violent and hateful then any religious zealot on Earth! Gotcha. Say 'ello to the other fatties who are mad because their uncle made them do things when they were little.
You can't be pro-peace AND be pro-Israel. If you read the Talmud and the Zohar you find that all other races are animals in the form of man to serve them. Their religion is a religion of hate:
"I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do." -Ariel Sharon
@donnely138 ha! where on earth did u get that quote? from lala land? u r very confused about the whole matter i assure u, do some intensive reading and even better, live in israel for several years to see what its actually like. israel is a SECULAR state, NOT one based on the jewish religion (and by the way your ideas about the talmud and zohar are completely incorrect). to sum it up for you, secular jews follow the jewish people's CULTURE e.g. traditions. LEARN boy, and don't spread hate! PEACE
@oc00011 I read through all your comments and since you area 100% Kool-Aid drinking Zionist makes you a 100% liar. There's no reason to believe any of the lies a Zionist spews. You people are a disease on the planet and you have no genetic claim to the land of the Jews. You are an insult to real Jews. You are the terrorist.
@donnely138 lol i've never tried kool-aid. is it good? always entertaining to speak to bigoted "mentally-challenged" clowns. on a serious note, meet some zionists. get to know them. then make a conclusion on who & what zionists are. Still keeping in mind u haven't met a small fraction of zionists out there so ur conclusion might still be wrong. otherwise ur just another bigot, saying only what u hear & read from propagandists. PEACE
@oc00011 Tell you what. When you psychopaths stop slaughtering children, stealing land, busting economies, controlling news, subverting governments and generally keel over and die I'll consider not hating you. I've met enough of you self righteous Zionist to make me sick to my stomach. I've also seen you animals clamoring for wiping every Arab off the map. You are inherently a dishonest clan of apartheid, war mongers and, to me, that sentences you to have the rest of humanity always hate you.
@donnely138 by definition of 'zionist' we want one sixth of one percent of the middle east, not as propagandist would fear-monger u "from the nile to the euphrates". by definition we zionists aspire self determination as jews, just as every other fucking race/creed has! we zionists succeeded in establishing a state thru legal diplomatic procedures, not violence (althou there was 1 small violent faction, not tru zionists). sorry to break it to u, we won't "keel over & die" as u sed, sucks to be u
@donnely138 & fuck ur rhetoric "slaughtering children". when hav israel EVER intentionally killed palestinian children? NEVER. when hav palestinians intentionally killed jewish children? too many times to count! in operation cast lead for example, the IDF to such great care not to harm civilians that there civilian-terrorist casualty ratio was 1:29 ! that's the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of warfare! don't believe me, research it! stop spitting venomous hate like a little bitch
@oc00011 Ha... bwahahahahah. You actually do believe your own delusion, don't you, you murderer. What a piece of garbage you are. You sound like Himmler with your excuse that what you are doing is 'humanitarian.' Show Jerusalem bombed out. Show me children in Israel strewn about and chopped to pieces from shelling and bombing. You are a coward from a nation of cowards who is stealing; it doesn't matter how 'little' you want, it doesn't belong to you. I'm a former idiot who used to love Israel.
@donnely138 listen to urself lol. in ur mind me saying that i & most other zionists are pro-peace (anti genocide of any kind!), pro-equality etc. those are principles u believe is associated with himmler? hav u ever considered that ur insane? u say "show me", show urself, read boy! live there & see for urself! in the 2 intifadas u had places packed with mothers & their prams (babies) getting blown up in israel. in late 80s early 90s u had children getting snatched from their mothers & stabbed!
@oc00011 You are white. You are not a Semite. You are of European stock. All Zionist who have not Read the Jewish Histories will fail to understand that they are NOT in line to have any land other then ancient Khazaria. And frankly, if you were invading my land, murdering my people, taking my things and destroying my way of life... I'd fight back any way I could. You are the invader.
@donnely138 u must be desperate to hate me being a jew if ur stooping to 'ur a nazi coz u want peace & equality with palestinians' & 'there are prostitutes in an israeli city so they must be evil' lol.. what big city in the world doesn't hav prostitutes? what a joker. look, israel will defend the right of jews to be self-determined in a microscopic piece of land in the world, they will defend minorities like arabs to have equal rights in their country, they will always defend humanitarian action
@oc00011 Microscopic? WTF? You're building a wall around people and SHELLING them! SHOW me the bombed out cities of Israel. Show me the children slaughtered in pools of gore and blood. Proof is required. You are a brainwashed and inferior animal. Zionist are the evil in the world and everyone else knows it. You actually have to pass LAWS to keep people from saying bad things about you.
@donnely138 again, laughably stupid. the only times israel has ever attacked palestinians were when israel's civilians were being targeted & killed. the wall (again, 75% fence you brainwashed nazi) was put up to avoid further buses, schools, cafes, shopping malls all getting attacked with suicide bombings, every fucking day, sometimes 5 in a single day, all over israel. Now the "wall" is there, almost 0 suicide bombings. CAUSE & EFFECT. you've never lived there, u just watch nazi videos, u bigot
@oc00011 What's REALLY hilarious is my last comment getting 'flagged as spam' because it shows Mossad involvement in 9/11. And no, your precious wall is under construction and is going to surround it. And why, pray tell, would I want to live in your shitty little desert camp? You're the one spouting propaganda; the same shit I used to believe to my shame. Zionist are SO HATED people will strap BOMBS to themselves to just kill a FEW of you. All you spout is propaganda.
@donnely138 "Zionist are SO HATED people will strap BOMBS to themselves to just kill a FEW of you"
that's the same as saying terrorists who killed americans in 9/11 or in the UK, or numerous other countries, do this because those civilians are hated. therefore its justifiable coz these civilians 'frustrated' the terrorist into doing that. the reason u don't see pictures of slaughtered israeli children is what's called a 'privacy act' in the civilized world, u wudn't wana c ur loved 1s dead on tv
@oc00011 Look, the 'terrorist' do what any person would do if his home was being ripped from him, his culture was being destroyed, his family members being killed and his way of life being choked out of existence. The Zionist agenda has CREATED the atmosphere in which this terrible consequence is occurring. And the 'terrorist' who attacked the USA are the same terrorist who attacked the USS Liberty. You tried to drag us into your war with Egypt and now you've got us killing the Muslims for you.
@donnely138 no. terrorism existed long before zionism. arabs mass slaughtered 'palestinian' jews way before israel existed. what created terrorism is the core motive of radical islamists - focusing on a verse from their scriptures saying islam will take over the world By Force, killing all non-muslims. they attack israel, usa, uk etc bcoz these countries represent freedom values that they loathe. majority of zionists want peace & equality for all, fact. me included, i wud have no reason to lie.
@oc00011 "focusing on a verse from their scriptures saying islam will take over the world By Force, killing all non-muslims. they attack israel, usa, uk etc bcoz these countries represent freedom values that they loathe. majority of zionists want peace & equality for all, fact. me included, i wud have no reason to lie." Which verse claims this? Zionists want to take Greater Israel back from the Arabs. They will have peace once settlers finish stealing the land of Palestinian children
@Mirza247 there are some muslims who ignore these verses & live peacefully, but to answer ur question: 2:190-193, 2:216-217, 2:244-245, 4:74-77, 4:95-96, 5:51, 5:72-73, 8:12-15, 8:37-39, 9:5 ('verse of the sword'), 9:14, 9:20, 9:29, 9:41, 9:73, 9:123, 22:38-39, 25:52, 47:4, 48:29, 60:4, 61:9-11.. there's also 9 hadiths that say this message of killing all non-muslims who refuse to convert. the few zionists who want 'greater israel' r seen by mainstream zionists as crazy, don't get it twisted
@oc00011 Refer to as many random verses you want but there are only few which bring doubt into a non-muslims mind about how peaceful the Religion of Islam is. I have countered many verses in the past so bringing up some new ones will be no challenge to me. A simpleton such as yourself cannot even begin to understand the verses of the Qur'an unles it is spelt out to you! So just quote some verses alongside your commentary to see how ignorant you really are
@Mirza247 anything a zionist/jew says is wrong yeh? look, jews lived in canaan much before the arabs did & THAT is a fact. still, i believe both shud live side by side there peacefully if only the arabs didn't constantly try commit a genocide of the jews i.e.destruction of israel! if u actually read then u'll see that many palestinians left out of choice, most others were told to temporarily leave by arab nations for the war where they'd 'drive the jews to the sea'. enough with the ignorance!
@oc00011 "Many palestinians left out of choice, most others were told to temporarily leave by arab nations for the war where they'd 'drive the jews to the sea'. enough with the ignorance!" This is an absurd thing to even suggest....the Palestinians would not and have not left because of what the arabs around them have said. No person gets up and leaves just like that, and I told you already about the debt Israel has to pay to asylums which is recognised internationally!
@Mirza247 the palestinians DID leave through arab leaders' recommendations. why? bcoz they thought they were coming back to israel very soon, once the war is over. u don't know what ur talking about, obviously! jews didn't 'steal' their land, they legally bought arab land for generous sums of money. anyway, the vast majority of land of the palestinian mandate was given to the arabs by britain e.g. jordan & much of ancient israel! so no, they could've not fought & negotiated peacefully instead!
@oc00011 Ignorance is saying that the Palestinians had no right to fight the Jews that took their land. Say if a Roman comes to me and says they lived at my house over a thousand years ago and therefore the land belongs to them, I would say F U this is my land which I bought and no historical reason like that will make me leave. This was the case with the Palestinians (Not to mention the Arabs were the first people to arrive in Canaan)...A fact known by all historians!
@Mirza247 the 'arabs' weren't the 1st people to arrive in canaan, it was the semitic peoples (what is today JEWS, arabs, ethiopians, persians etc).. JEWS hav historically been living there since 3000 years ago til now, fact. the jews that came from the holocaust to israel were in greater numbers than britain allowed, & if u experienced what they did u wud understand why! & how dumb r u seriously. they were prepared for war? LOL! they had NO ammunition for that war, completely unprepared!
@Mirza247 I agree, I've read many of these so called versus and can't see how they are trying to take over Europe. I have however read the Talmud in portions that make the Quran look utterly peaceful.
@donnely138 ..if so, why do u not ask what UNITES israel, instead of only asking what divides it? why do u choose to stay ignorant about israel's core values of equality to all its citizens- jews, arabs, indians etc. WHY do u ignore how the israeli mentality is built from this very seed? 7 milliion population, a country the size of Wales, with people from 130 different countries, All types of cultures & creeds mixed together without even a thought of segregation. truly. live there for a few yrs
And WTF is with your 'lizard' thing? I believe in corruption and only someone who had absolutely no leg to stand on with their lame ass arguments would invoke such a ridiculous claim like that. How cowardly. I know what the facts are and you do not. You're obviously young and all you do is recite the official lines to yourself and your friends to reinforce the delusion that Israel is some kind of 'chosen race' and has a right to land because 'everyone else' has it.
@donnely138 & no its nothing about israel being of a 'chosen race' lol its about jews needing self determination like every other people. there's no peace yet bcoz even most 'moderate' palestinians want a state that *replaces* israel for yet another islamic state - as is their doctrine. the Few zionists that talk about wiping out arabs are not true zionists. enslaving the goy? lol! now u really sound like a nazi propagandist. all zionists want & need is that little sliver of land to be free ppl
@oc00011 So you take the rights of others for your own? I'm not buying it. There's no moral or natural law which supports this claim. You can cite whatever you want, it doesn't change what you are.
@donnely138 look at the history on how countries r formed e.g. england. they all hav background in violence, yet only israel is somehow illegitimate? if anything, israel was a country set up with more diplomacy & least violence than most. no taking 'rights of others', trying to negotiate with others to live side by side. its the nazi propaganda that was campaigned in the middle east by amin al husseini & others that motivated the arabs to get rid of all the jews, no negotiations. this is fact!
@oc00011 That is, indeed a fact. Al Husseini did negotiate with Himmler. And for the last 50 years leading up to then Ashkenazi/Khazarian Jews had been infiltrating and causing trouble there. His negotiation was for the removal of all non-indigenous to be forcibly removed. However it was the Zionist Izaak Greenbaum in 1938 who said this: "One Cow in Palestine is worth all the Jews in Poland." And just because your ancient people converted to Judaism doesn't mean you deserve land for it.
@donnely138 no. al husseini wanted ALL the jews to be slaughtered, not just ashkenazi jews (he was directly in close alliance with hitler himself), fact. u name 'gruenbaum' like he represents zionists, come on now really? its always the same with u neo-nazis, picking a few names of zionists as if they represent zionists as a whole e.g. LEHI who, by the way, were banned by the 1st israeli government under anti-terrorism law. do u see urself as a person of reason? r u open-minded to other views?..
@oc00011 Neo Nazis hate black people. They hate Sephardic Jews. They hate anyone not white. I am Native American you bigot. That just goes to show that a Jew shouts 'Nazi' and 'Anti Semite' whenever they can just to stifle debate. I happen to be grossly overinformed about the USS Liberty and the lies of the Israeli Government regarding that action taken against us. They had a flag flying. They radioed for help. The Pilots IDENTIFIED THEM as US. Don't try that shit with me.
@donnely138 i don't care what ur ethnicity is. implying that zionists r nazis is antisemitic, which is why i called u a neo-nazi! what, u don't get fascist bigots from any non-europeans? there was (allegedly) 4 zionists (out of MILLIONS) that tried to MANIPULATE nazis, not pledge allegiance to them, so don't try THAT shit with me! u think u know something? what do YOU think 'zionism' means? what attempts for peace has israel made? what's the human rights conditions there compared to arab states?
@oc00011 Calling me a Neo-Nazi is a blatant attempt to discredit me. Anti-Semitism is the boy-who-cried-wolf a million times over and it just won't work. Neo Nazis follow a religious paradigm called Aryanism and hate everyone but fellow Aryans. Therefore I cannot be a 'Neo Nazi.' However comparing the ACTIONS of Israel to that of the Nazis is not comparing Ideology; it is simply a condemnation of action as perceived by planet Earth to be atrocities and war crimes - even if debatable.
@donnely138 centrist/mainstream zionists believe this while standing for notions of non-violence, tolerance, & security for their people from serious threats (violence when absolutely necessary). these zionists are not 'expansionists', they always believed in negotiation & attempt to resolve tensions through supporting others in every way possible e.g.thousands from gaza & west bank taken for treatment in israeli hospitals (some patients tried suicide bombing the hospital in these opportunities)
@donnely138 its a strange phenomenon we see today where israel are condemned by everybody everywhere, all the time, while sickening genocides & human rights violations in sudan, iran, n.korea, afghanistan, saudi etc. r relatively ignored. & people somehow don't hear about israel's development projects in the west bank, israeli organizations for empowering minorities (inc. arabs) in israel, success stories of democratic processes, standards of living of arabs in israel compared to in arab states
@oc00011 I'll be straight with you. If I can get shown the bombed out areas of Israel in comparison to the Gaza strip I would be much more willing to accept that many Zionist condemn such actions. My problem is that there are many JEWS who protest the state of Israel. And anyone who has a problem with Israel is called an Anti-Semite and the holocaust card is played. The world has unmitigated RESENTMENT towards Israel and it can NOT heal until Israel engages the rest of the world.
@donnely138 oh there was plenty of bombed out areas of israel they just weren't aired on every media network like the frenzy they've had on the palestinian side. i'm glad ur genuinely interested in making ur own mind up from getting balanced views from both sides of the argument, it shows strength of character. believe it or not i actually argued the palestinian case for many years, just from fear of being biased as i'm from israel.. anyway, youtube: 'hamas in headlines', 1st link. continued
@oc00011 I watched the vid. I know about many of those. What you need to understand is that the Zionist HERE in the USA are raging, foaming at the mouth, insane fascist. I hate Hamas. I also know this, and it might shock you, Hamas was created by Mossad (like Al Queda was created by the CIA) : "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)". - according to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
@oc00011 In fact the same way our CIA should take the blame for terrorism so should Mossad. They are both complicit in the creation, funding and radicalization of Islamist groups who started as religious and were militarized by both countries.
@donnely138 ur claim about mossad might/might not be true, i'd need to research it. wudn't surprise me, such organizations all round the world r often corrupt, as is the nature of human beings sadly. regarding usa zionists, what about 'hillel neuer' (youtube him)? i'm sure there's plenty more like him otherwise he wudn't have gotten the position he is in now. u need to understand that zionists everywhere affiliate with contrasting political ideas, '2 jews, 3 opinions' like they say in israel.
@oc00011 Let me put it to you this way: The CIA funded and trained Osama Bin Laden. Every time the US needed a reason to attack something he was the excuse. It was a boogeyman they created and used. The USA, because of the CIA, is a fascist state bent on imperial domination. If the CIA were disbanded and its chiefs incarcerated and power restored to the people we would find their list of corruption, conspiracy and atrocities to long to read. All in the name of America.
@oc00011 To even disagree with the policies of Israel we get attacked. This invites an absolute HATRED for a state which until 1948 didn't even exist! I've had friends who lived over there who tell me atrocities happen. I know for a fact my country is committing HORRIFYING atrocities in Iraq. I don't worship my country and I don't worship a material state. You seem to think its strange that people don't like Israel the world over... maybe there's something to it.
@donnely138 don't 4get that its not only a case of how many casualties. 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
@oc00011 I doubt that YOU are evil. I doubt that you commit atrocities. The plain fact is this: all governments engaged in war commit atrocities. And every atrocity by anyone is hailed as a great victory and the the 'victors' make the news favorable only to them. But look man, taking farmlands that belonged to someone else is against the laws of man, its against moral laws, its against the laws of God.
@donnely138 i don't think israel's some all-righteous sinless state, there hav been mistakes made like every other nation e.g. i criticize israel's current settlement building & its positioning of some of the fence's locations. but i know there's genuinely been striving for negotiations & peace with the arabs since the beginning, plenty of examples for this. yet media is consistently biased to the extreme, everywhere. its always sensationalist angles never honest reporting
They attacked us and they knew full goddamn well what they were doing. Try researching it outside of Israeli propaganda. Mistaken identity my ass. It was a two hour raid, the ship was DIRECTLY jammed. And when it was drifting along Israeli Gunships (helicopters) were incoming and only veered away when the American ship Saratoga got into visual range. It was because you wanted war and were willing to kill and deceive to achieve it.
IN ANY WAR BETWEEN THE CIVILIZED MAN AND THE SAVAGE, SUPPORT THE CIVILIZED MAN! SUPPORT ISRAEL! DEFEAT JIHAD!
Medicint20 1 month ago
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People are so ignorant to ignore the fact that Israel is only trying to defend itself against the terrorist cowards Hamas who have taken over the gaza strip, Hamas is the reason there is still hate, stupidity, and ignorance in the middle east and many americans are brainwashed to hate Israel when they should stand behind them. LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!
ShotzMaster117 1 month ago
No matter how one may empathize with the sufferings of countless numbers of Palestinians and they have a good cause to dissent, one must not forget the Muslim world is prone to terrorism, hate, bigotry and anything unislamic . Islam is really a dangerous religion, and I think the main problem in the middle east is religion right now and which is the cause for the hate, senseless stupidity and when one human could enact such horrid calamity.
2610paul 2 months ago
If the Jews of Israel would just convert to Islam, the problem would vanish overnight.
However, the Kurds are already Muslims... so they are just screwed.
So many horrendous atrocities in the world, yet everyone remains fixated on something as meaningless as Israel-Palestine.
What about the Congo? Between 6 to 9 million people have being massacred in Congo and Rwanda in the past two decades.
Who cares about Israel-Palestine? I have no sympathy for the Palestinian cause, but I do for the people.
mactekos 2 months ago
rezabeza whoever you are your so right.. if only the world would understand
123fooxy 2 months ago
Free Palestine, free Sullivan county, free us all!!!
svennbreng 2 months ago
The Muslim Arabs on that protest were not students but Illegal Muslim asylum seekers.
nothingbutjustice 3 months ago
long life palestine
TheAmine90210 4 months ago
Israel needs to defend itself in the same sense that a robber needs to defend himself after a crime is committed.
rezabeza 4 months ago
for the last approx 40 years..israel has had a choice..security or expansion...they've chosen expansion..the rest is propaganda.
pengo2008 4 months ago
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1) in political point Jews ,always lived in the holy land 3500 years,
read about KINGDOM OF ISRAEL AND KINGDOM OF JUDAH
see old maps ,historical evidence.
2) in religion point ,fact that ,the holy Torah,the NT of Jesus,and also the Quran,all of them wrote that the holy land belong to sons of Israel.
WHERE is Palestine in these books NONE of word.??????
LOOK IN THE QURAN SURA 5:20-26
LOOK ALSO ZABUR 105:9,135:12,136:22
3) the fact is that Arabs stole the land from sons of Israel.
ISEL333 5 months ago
What about the countless rockets fired into Israeli civilian areas? no concern or criticism there I see and also what about the political ideology called islamism?
FeignofCordor 5 months ago
@FeignofCordor Palestinian rockets have killed a total of 22 Israelis in the last 11 years. On the other hand, nearly 1000 women and children were killed in Gaza in 2008 alone. That was a very nice Christmas gift from the IDF by the way.
rezabeza 4 months ago
@rezabeza
I don`t know the proper figures of deaths and injuries on both sides but I don`t measure this by who killed the most but by who always starts the attacking and intent . That is why I support Israel. If you disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah there would be peace and no killing but if you disarmed the IDF there would be mass slaughter and genocide and it would be done to shouts of " Allah Akbar " and the world knows it
FeignofCordor 4 months ago
@rezabeza
I don`t know the proper figures of deaths and injuries on both sides but I don`t measure this by who killed the most but by who always starts the attacking and intent . That is why I support Israel. If you disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah there would be peace and no killing but if you disarmed the IDF there would be mass slaughter and genocide and it would be done to shouts of " Allah Akbar " and the world knows it
FeignofCordor 4 months ago 7
@FeignofCordor Why did Israel break the ceasefire in 2008 and kill nearly 1000 Palestinian civilians in Gaza when according to the IDF Hamas fired 0 rockets into Israel? Hamas was elected into power because Palestinians knew there was NO diplomatic road to peace with Israel. Just like you see now, whenever they try to ask the world for a Palestinian state at the UN, the US slaps them in the face and tells them to sit down. So much for diplomacy. Hezbollah was created AFTER Israel invaded Lebanon
rezabeza 4 months ago
@rezabeza
I know of no such time in 2008 when Israel attacked first without provocation. Palestinian Terrorists have always attacked first and they have never sort peace with Israel. I also don`t think the Palestinians have ever asked for statehood before. The UN agreed that Israel is a state back in 1948 but Palestinian authorities and muslims world wide never want peace with Israel. Its Ishmael fighting Isaac
FeignofCordor 4 months ago
@FeignofCordor Israel invaded Gaza and killed 1300 people and 900 of them were civilians. And that was using state-of-the-art accurate to the tip of a needle technology while the Palestinians killed 13 Israelis, 10 of them were soldiers, using rockets that barely go in a straight line. You tell me who the terrorists are?
Why do you hate Islam which is the only religion in the world other than Christianity that believes in the virgin birth, yet you support the people who call Mary a whore?
rezabeza 4 months ago
@FeignofCordor Israel invaded Gaza and killed 1300 people and 900 of them were civilians. And that was using state-of-the-art accurate to the tip of a needle technology while the Palestinians killed 13 Israelis, 10 of them were soldiers, using rockets that barely go in a straight line. You tell me who the terrorists are?
Why do you hate Islam which is the only religion in the world other than Christianity that believes in the virgin birth, yet you support the people who call Mary a whore?
rezabeza 4 months ago
@rezabeza
Show me the link that provides evidence of this death count you speak of.
Islam is a false religion that has lead its people away from salvation that is why I hate it. Why do you hate Jews?
FeignofCordor 4 months ago
@FeignofCordor According to B'Tselem, the exact number was 1385 Palestinians, 375 were Palestinian combatants. 13 Israelis, 10 were soldiers. I can't post links here so you have to just look on the B'Tselem website. See what kind of terrorists these Israelis are?
The Bible says "Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus, that spirit is not from God". According to your own Bible, Islam is from God!
rezabeza 4 months ago
@rezabeza
I looked up B`Tselem and they`re a human rights group I couldn`t find your figures on there site but I did find this article. "Since the beginning of the al-Aqsa intifada, there has been a sharp increase in the number of attacks perpetrated by Palestinian organizations against Israeli civilians. These attacks have killed hundreds of Israelis and wounded thousands, including many minors, inside Israel and in the Occupied Territories." I take it you`re against this terrorism ?
FeignofCordor 4 months ago
@FeignofCordor
B Tselem is directly financed by Islamo-Jihadists
nothingbutjustice 3 months ago
@FeignofCordor there was no hamas nor hezbollah before israel started occupying the area..so according to your analogy you are suppose to support the palestinian people because obviously this whole thing started when zionists started occupying land by force kicking palestinians out of their homes and killing them ..etc
dozgare 1 month ago
@dozgare
Show me proof of this Jewish violent kicking of Palestinians out of their homes and killing them back then? I know a different story to the one you know. A story of Arab countries telling the Palestinians to flee and the Arab armies will clear the land of Jews and then they can come back but we all know how that plan went. If the Arabs care so much for the Palestinians why is it they are barred from entering Arab countries and allowed to settle?
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@dozgare
No. But the Arabs were attacking the Jews in Palestine before 1948
360dupont 1 month ago
Funny thing is that when I opened the quran I saw the word ISRAEL written plain in sight in the quran, the floor is yours...
Swordisk 5 months ago
@Swordisk How exactly does this change the fact that Israel has been occupying the West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza (by way of the land, sea and air blockade)? How does this change the fact that Israel expropriates Palestinian land to build illegal settlements? How does this change the fact that Israel violates the human rights of Palestinians? How does this change the fact that Israel bombed hospitals, schools and Mosques (in some cases with white phosphorus), killing 700 civilians?
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 Hows does that change the fact that Israel is surrounded by five hostile nations seeking its destruction, hows does it change the fact that hamas uses its people as human shields, and buildings rocket factories under the same schools, hospitals, and mosques, and expropriates Palestinian national self determination for terrorism? How does it explain that israel occupies those lands for national security, and gives more rights to Palestinians there than any arab state in the region?
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk I think with regard to your first question, you might be stuck in 1948? If not, please tell me what the five hostile nations seeking Israels destruction are? I know of Hamas in Gaza, which is not a nation and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Egypt and Jordan have had peace with Israel for decades. Please tell me what source you have used to develop the opinion that Hamas used human shields and stored weapons in hospitals, schools and Mosques? Or are you just parroting the Israeli narrative?
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 and when it comes to human rights violations, China haskilled 3.5 million tibetans since 1955, and 1.5 million only in the 1970s. Or how about the human rights violations that Russia commits within chechnya killing more than 100,000 people with the span of a decade and half, why dont people ever talks about that? Why is it when israel overracts to the situation in Gaza people called it a militartistic, appartheid, genocidal state that should be condemed.
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk In case you are interested in a few sources that are not affiliated with either side. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, The International Red Cross, Doctors without Borders, B'Tselem. These are organizations that did thorough investigations and or produced reports on the massacre in Gaza. Notice I left out the UNHRC report, better known as the Goldstone report, in an effort to save you from claiming bias.
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 You wanna talk human rights violations, how about making actual claims, who voted hamas in? The Palestinians right? Who openly outspoke Israels destruction as their election campaigen, Hamas right? So a fraction of the problem goes to the people themselves in Gaza. But lets focus on the bigger picture, israel is not a perfect state, but unlike its five major neighbours it does not have the luxury to take a liberal aproach to its security, therefore it will over react
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk when it comes to its own security, and its the only nation the will court marshall its own generals and military personel when it does unlaw actions against the palestinians in gaza or the west bank. Israel did many palestinians since 1948, but those were from wars, and PLO raids, the number 50,000 in 63 years. Unlike China who has killed 3.5 million tibetans since 1955, and 1.5 million only in the 1970s when there was peaceful protest in Lhasa and Peking.
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk You what I accept the second half of your argument, because it's a fair statement. Most people will not even admit that Israel has made some mistakes. However the first half of your comment suggests that people should be collectively punished for their choice of elected representatives. Perhaps you have not considered that 40% of Palestinians did not vote for Hamas and the huge portion of the population that were children and therefore did not vote.?
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 children should not be blamed for islamic extremism, my point is that while israel overracts to the situation in gaza it is blamed for being a appartheid, militaristic, genodical state that should be condemed. While china, russian, turkey have killed hundreds, hundreds of thousands, and millions (in china's case) of people, I hear nothing at york. And yet israel is blamed more extremely for a smaller crimes, while the bigger crime is completely ignored, explain to me is why is that?
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk I completely understand where you are coming from and it's very true. Even my own country (US) has committed much more serious offenses against civilians. I think that my problem is that I hold the Jewish people to a higher standard, as I am sure they do themselves. The Jewish people have some of the brightest minds amongst them and have brought the world many wonderful things, but the occupation is not one of them.
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 Well my friend maybe you should hold all people to equal standards, that way your judgement is not clouded. Remember the thing that Israel wants the most is peace, right the so called "occupation" allows palestinians to leave at peace, and free. I have been to israel multiply times and spoken to the arab population there, and they for most part see arabs leaving under jews as nothing wrong, since they are brothers, like jews that have leaving under arabs for hundreds of years.
Swordisk 4 months ago
@Swordisk I would love to hold all peoples to the same standard, but I think as the democracies we proclaim to be, we must be held to a higher standard. If not, then we are no better than the tyrants we propose to be fighting against. Don't you think? I will tell you, I have often thought of how nice it would be if Hamas could be completely eliminated from the picture and then create one secular democracy? Just wishful thinking!
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 Hamas only came into the picture in 2006, how about the other 58 years of Israeli occupation and persecution of Palestinian women and children? Israel is an illegal apartheid state, and like South Africa, it too will fall.
rezabeza 4 months ago
@rezabeza Make no mistake, I am an outspoken supporter of the Palestinian plight. However, I do not agree with the tactics of Hamas. I do not believe that the Palestinian people can achieve their goal of an independent state with Hamas in the picture. I realize the brutal oppression being imposed on the Palestinian people and I agree that Israel will fall if it does not end the occupation.
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 children should not be blamed for islamic extremism, my point is that while israel overracts to the situation in gaza it is blamed for being a appartheid, militaristic, genodical state that should be condemed. While china, russian, turkey have killed hundreds of thousands, and millions (in china's case) of people, I hear nothing at york. And yet israel is blamed more extremely for a smaller crimes, while the bigger crime is completely ignored, explain to me is why is that?
Swordisk 4 months ago
FUCK ISRAEL!!!
humayoon000 5 months ago
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Four overriding myths have shaped the consciousness of most people in our society about Zionism.
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
The 1st is that of "A land without a people for a people without a land." This myth was sedulously cultivated by early Zionists to promote the fiction that Palestine was a remote, desolate place ready for the taking. This claim was quickly followed by denial of Palestinian identity, nationhood or legitimate entitlement to the land in which the Palestinian people have lived throughout their recorded history.
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
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The 2nd is the myth of Israeli democracy. Innumerable newspaper stories or television references to the Israeli state are followed by the assertion that it is the only "real" democracy in the Middle East. In fact, Israel is as democratic as the apartheid state of South Africa. Civil liberty, due process and the most basic human rights are by law denied those who do not meet racial, religious criteria.
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
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The 3rd myth is that of "security" as the motor force of Israeli foreign policy. Zionists maintain that their state must be the fourth largest military power in the world because Israel has been forced to defend itself against imminent menace from primitive, hate-consumed Arab masses only recently dropped from the trees.
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
The 4th myth is that of Zionism as the moral legatee of the victims of the Holocaust. This is at once the most pervasive and insidious of the myths about Zionism. Ideologues for the Zionist movement have wrapped themselves in the collective shroud of the six million Jews who fell victim to Nazi mass murder. The bitter and cruel irony of this false claim is that the Zionist movement itself actively colluded with Nazism from its inception.
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
if you want Palestine so much go back to Israel :P
Pooply21 5 months ago
@Pooply21 How about you go back to germany, jew?
TheDamasceneSteel 5 months ago
@TheDamasceneSteel I'm actually from Lebanon and before that my family came from from Arab Spain (aka Al-Andalus) before it was taken over by the Christians; before they lived in Spain/Al-Andalus they lived in Israel (you know the place of the Jews, were all the ancient artifacts are and prove that is our land)
Pooply21 5 months ago
@Pooply21 Nice try with that but Spain wasnt Arab to begun with.
Gamer1Wolf 5 months ago
@Gamer1Wolf Al-Andalus
Pooply21 5 months ago
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@Pooply21 Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750 he made the conquest almost to the EU but failed in the end he did get Spain and like you said Al-Andalus is the place.
Gamer1Wolf 4 months ago
FUCK HAMAS FUCK HEZBOLLAH!!!!!!!!
THESE TERRORISM ORGANIZATIONS!!!!!
IDF JUST WANT PROTECT THE ISRAELI PEOPLE FROM THE ISLAMIC TERRORISM!!
THAT'S ALL!!!!!
FUCK MUSLIMS!! ISLAM = TERRORISM!!!
ISLAM? = Ahmadinijad, Osama? Bin Laden, Assad, Mugenieh, Idi Amin, Quaddaffi, Arafat, Ayatollah Komeini, Saddam Hussein
they're terrorists!!!
ahibol 6 months ago
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ahibol 6 months ago
Its Apartheid as described by Nelson Mandela..
The Jews are no longer the victims...Arabs need to stop rocket attacks..You havent a chance against such a powerful army that lives for an eye for an eye..
ImagesByDavid 8 months ago
Wow...asteroids raining down ... but even more hilarious is the threat of thermonuclear bombs on Hezbollah ....but israel didn't cuz they are "good people"
Wrong. israel doesn't go nuclear, it doesn't dare hence the whole world see its true colors, which would be a good thing although a lot of dead people
Right now and as always israel hides under a blanket of security done by the American Mass Media and israel doesn't want to ruin that....not yet anyway.
VenusCapricorn 8 months ago
condemn hamas ur not islamaphobic...condemn israel ur an anti semite
mmc786 8 months ago
That the Palestinian population elected a known terrorist group to represent them indicates a strong anti-Semitic stance in Gaza toward the Jewish population of Israel and support of violence against Jews of all regions. The Israeli government’s decision to defend itself and its Jewish population against this Palestinian threat is entirely justified.
Silverwire100 10 months ago
@Silverwire100 ... Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.... I hope you were directing your stupid comments towards Americans because the rest of the world knows the difference.
tdot22 10 months ago
@tdot22 90-95% of Jews are Zionists to varying degrees
BamenYaros 9 months ago
@BamenYaros Maybe the Jews you know, but 1/3 of North American Jews support israel but hate Israel's racist policies, 1/3 don't care either way and 1/3 are supportive of israel through thick and thin. keep telling your stupid lies to American the rest of the World is on to your tricks... I no longer support the two state solution... Israel does not want peace my generation now wants ALL OF PALESTINE.. THERE IS NO MAKING PEACE WITH ZIONISTS, U people only understand force.
tdot22 9 months ago
@tdot22 I think you are right..but thats what I said u r just misusing the word Zionis...I live in Canada most of the Jewish population is cloistered and its more like 80% supportive of Israel through thick and thin (100% in the Jewish neighborhood) 10% don't care 5% support Israel but not its policies and 5% are ANTI-Zionist
BamenYaros 9 months ago
people who use the phrase 'you people' have no legitimacy we dont only understand force but from 70 AD to 1945 the world has been trying to kill us we were David and our oppressors were goliath...since in67 we have been goliath but we think we are David this is the ecesnse of the Israeli Palestinian conflict
BamenYaros 9 months ago
my advice to u muslims is to unite..arabs at leastt should unite to balance Israels power and only then can we have real peace..as long as weare delusional and hold all the cards peace is impossible
BamenYaros 9 months ago
@BamenYaros don't need to....If a small non-state actor like Hezbollah armed with light arms can hold off the Israeli Military for over a month, no one is scared of Israeli Military anymore all you can do is kill unarmed civilians in Gaza, and fight rock throwing children you can longer fight..... We dont want Jenin we will win Jaffa, we dont want Hebron we will conquer Haifa...enjoy it while you can it took as 100 years to kick the Crusaders out, America wont be around forever to protect u..
tdot22 9 months ago
@tdot22 Ok then like everyone else who has defeated the Jews you will be destroyed from above...asteroids maybe If you displace us you will b destroyed soon after...no one has EVER messed with the Jews and surived we will destroy you economies and Hashem will rain hell on you--until there int one of u left...dont bielive me..this si whathappened to the Bablyon, Nazis, Romans, Soviets,Byzantines I could go on...
BamenYaros 9 months ago
@tdot22 if we used our thermonuclear bombs on Hezbollah they b gone...immediately butwe didnt because we like to think of ourselves as good people
BamenYaros 9 months ago
@BamenYaros ... IF you used your thermonuclear device that actually would have been better as oppossed to the millions of cluster bombs you dropped before the ceasefire, there is nothing good about a Zionist, the only good Zionist is a dead Zionist, America is bankrupt, it will only last maybe 30 40 years more as a power once America is bankrupt no one will be there to protect you....You refuse to make peace , we will make you to pieces.
tdot22 9 months ago
@BamenYaros suck my chechen black haired dick , you zionist asshole. you do all you can to take palestinian land , and still pretend with deep hypocrisy " would could do that we could do that but we do not coz we are humans" well i got news for you jackass, we know who you really are. so dont waste your time on efforts :-@
abrekize 8 months ago
@BamenYaros Insha Allah i dream about taking part in WW lll between muslims and non-muslims. i would strike my sword first on the neck of zionist. imagine yourself- a coward hiding behind the nuclear bombs going back to 1600 years at a bayonet charge in a battlefield against me an honourable muslim man who is afraid of only Allah , i would drink your blood if God would not curse me for that. I dont hate jews, there are good people among them too, but i hate you and those like you.
abrekize 8 months ago
@abrekize see if u just try to fight us Jews u may win
but muslims vs non muslims...
against china india russian America....hahahhah there wont b a single muslim left.
thretaning to drink my blood...savage much?
BamenYaros 8 months ago
@BamenYaros i'm not threatening you, i gave you a hint ))))))) , if we were 1600 back in time. we can handle america, russian and with the china if God Almighty has a will, dont you think so ? yet jews are believed to be religious people,
abrekize 8 months ago
@abrekize bro i want peace...and I understand tht for tht to happen yull need full control of the the Haram al Sharif and a bunch of other stuff...
but seriously im a bit traumatized by the whole 'i would drink your blood' thing...im hoping yur some sort of strange vampire fanatic and aren't serious.
BamenYaros 8 months ago
@BamenYaros ok, what you want me to say ?))))) do not dramatize it )) , you 've got me angry and I have erupted what's inside me. I never drank human blood so far)). We all know the situation in Gaza, and when Zionists simulate themselves as peaceful jews while endlessly killing Palestinians , what else can you axpect from muslims ?
abrekize 8 months ago
@abrekize the Gazasiege was stupid and im glad its ovr. I want peace and most ppl do too. I feel bad for everyone who's been killed.
Nd if u intend to start drinking blood...stay away...my neck is not very tasty :)
BamenYaros 8 months ago
"Israel's illigal occupation of Gaza" - Funny, but Israel does not occupy Gaza! actually, Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians a few years ago! These protestors don't even know what they are protesting about!
lmao!!!
Megadude12345 10 months ago
@Megadude12345 Israel controls the airspace, borders, waterfront of Gaza...... each lie you tell just buries your credibility... even Americans are getting sick of your lies now... No more 67 borders you people dont want peace.... we are going to take ALL OF PALESTINE BACK!!!
tdot22 10 months ago
if people are against israel killing palestinians, it isn't because they are against palestinian deaths, only deaths caused by israel, because hamas actually kills more palestinians, and nobody complains about that.
BoringAaron 11 months ago
I like how the first word out of every anti-Israel person EVER (especially here)'s mouth is 'this is not anti-semetic, this is not against Jewish people'. Like saying that makes it so, or makes it okay. By supporting movements that wish to wipe the Jewish State off the map by pushing its inhabitants into the sea, and frequently calling for their blood, etc, how can it be anything BUT anti-semitic? Just saying its not doesn't make it so. That;s like saying 'i dont hate jews, I hate Zionists'
sabradan 11 months ago
@sabradan Which are one and the same. Zionism being the movement for a national homeland for the Jews, in their historical homeland (the most broad and direct definition of zionism). if you are against Zionism, then you are therefore either: a. Against Jewish self-determination, which IS anti-semitic, or b. An uneducated moron who has no right to be speaking on an issue you know nothing about.
sabradan 11 months ago
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After the 7/7 bombing in London we saw something so similar as happen on 9/11 in NY, YES the ICTS security company(MOSSAD) to do with the underground trains in London and YES the same ICTS security company(Mossad) to do with all the Airports on 9/11 in USA. And in London on 7/7 and on 9/11 had also drills and then hidden bombes. Well you know about 200 Mossad guys that had to go. And yes the Israel minister lied to the media since the police never phoned him.
BigWhoreHouseIsrael 11 months ago
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Our great company Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo employees (ZIONIST), however, did not pass the warning on to the authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands of lives."
Yes our GREAT ZIONIST (Mossad) at Odigo knew The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
YES "saving only Jewish lives" , NOT Gentile (or non-Jew)
BigWhoreHouseIsrael 11 months ago
We Fuck*ng Israelis made "millions of dollars."
Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."
BigWhoreHouseIsrael 11 months ago
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Yes Our Great Racist Zionist Israelis
or Mossad with van of explosive on 9/11?
Reports from New York are saying three people have been arrested with a van of explosives.
The van was stopped along the New Jersey turn-pike near the George Washington Bridge.
It was not clear why police stopped the van but when they did they found it was laden down with tonnes of explosives."
Breaking News. ie or breakingnews/2001/09/12/story23429.asp
YES MOSSAD "with tonnes of explosives."
BigWhoreHouseIsrael 11 months ago
israeli bitches!! if only god had given them testicles, they wudn't have taken it in the ass in europe and run like bitches to the hospitable palestinians who welcomed them with arms wide open until the zionist scum started doing the same things they were doing in germany and the rest of europe and started stealing palestinian land!!
wailonkok 1 year ago
@wailonkok
Tbh Muslims have hated Jews long before WW2
MrValzen 11 months ago
@MrValzen i wonder why, with teaching like its ok to steal the goyum's land, its ok to kill the goy indirectly and Mary being a whore.. with all these talmudic teachings and more, is it really a surprise why muslims (and all goyum) have hated jews?? its only a surprise to those assholes who take the word of the pharasies over the word of god, OH wait, thats the jews only!!! so go fuck urself bitch!! u faggots love playing the victim..
wailonkok 10 months ago
Israel is the reason of all dictators in the arabworld. Freedom to palestine and all jews from Europe should with all respect to jews, go back home, Palestine belong to the palestinians, not russians, hungarians etc.
amrjosef 1 year ago
stop defending terrorists
ahushartmuta 1 year ago
"Students came here to promote terror...." Oua ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!
UighurKnight 1 year ago
Free Palestine now for fuck sakes what is the hold up? All the rich fucks need to make money off the weapon factories so they send military aid to Israel who completely ass rape the innocent women and children of Palestine, the world has seen enough, chosen people my ass.
exposingscams 1 year ago
don't forget Jordans illegal occupation of Palestine
Let us all support Eygpts efforts to maintain the wall around Gaza so the Zionists won't steal the land
howie1962 1 year ago
GO PALESTINE. With love, Kenyon College!!!
Hamadm6311611 1 year ago
Before hitler died he said "i'm going to let some jews live...so you can see how they really are"...i can see what he meant now. Everywhere these guys go they distroy peace in that region. You can't live with these guys. Palestine was nice enough to let the fukers live and they repay them by throwing bombs on their heads and laughing at it...and then they act like they are the "good guys"...go fuk urself assholes. Palestine should have made u jews rot and die in the sea
Nabil753951 1 year ago
fucking jews wonder why in every era there is some kind of race that wants to eliminate them. They just go to every country, sits down and claims that its theirs now. we need another hitler <3
Nabil753951 1 year ago
go israel in your big whole it's nearly your end so gon on to the hell
TheGees78 1 year ago
love Israel
tzipi22 1 year ago
Because thier all sand niggers in the end.
omega4chimp 1 year ago
Go Israel!!!!!
TheOpenDoor1990 1 year ago 6
anybody on gaza side were there to promote terror & hatred ??? Ummmm hmmm Good one retard! Go watch more Fox News and eat off your mommy and daddies money. Im gonna feed some hungry kids who just had the house stolen! Oops guess what, IDF = TERROR. AND MOHAMMEDs(PBUH) NAME IS IN HEBREW IN THE OLD TESTAMENT!
dekonbreakz 1 year ago
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@Mirza247 & what u 'saw' (relying on sensationalist tv doesn't count) is propaganda, actually live there for a few years before saying that u know something, u will never know otherwise. the palestinians in gaza segregate themselves, u think any other country would allow thousands of people who intentionally kill women & children walk freely? & no they don't just use stones stop playing the fool, they used guns, rockets, suicide bombings etc. & the IDF never intentionally kill children u idiot
oc00011 1 year ago
its not just a case of "more palestinian deaths" (most from hamas). 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Excuse me if your media doesn't portray the deaths that occurred weekly in the West Bank and Gaza....I was also a child when I saw the bloodshed that the Israeli Army inflicted on Palestinian children...The pictures of them standing over children with guns raised as they threw stones. I've seen the bulldozers, the bombs the segregation and the Massive wall built onPalestinian land and in the back gardens of homes in the West Bank
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oc00011 1 year ago
Let's not forget that Israel BOMBED the USS Liberty and it was NOT a case of mistaken identity.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 the americans were warned to stay out of the waters anywhere near Egypt & Israel. The fighters planes that attacked her mistook her for an enemy ship. Only later did Israel find out the ship was American. if the americans heeded the Israeli warnings & not been spying on israel's actions in the war the ship never would have been put in harms way.. if u can't see how radical islamists (not the peaceful muslims) want world conquest then u need to do more research.
oc00011 1 year ago
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watch?v=3aKj6uJ5Mt4
I know what Israel is.
donnely138 1 year ago
hahah theres a paki at 1:40, doesnt he have a variety store to run lol i dont give a fuck bout the issue a dead muslim is a good muslim far as im concerned
OneManWolfPak 1 year ago
@OneManWolfPak You moron. Many of the people killed are Christians. Its one of the predominate religions in Palestine... you must watch alot of Zionist controlled news media in the US.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 ...good kill all the christians too, anyone who wispers to an invisible person needs to be shot
OneManWolfPak 1 year ago
@OneManWolfPak Oh, so you're one of those neck-bearded atheist who is more violent and hateful then any religious zealot on Earth! Gotcha. Say 'ello to the other fatties who are mad because their uncle made them do things when they were little.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 ...how did you know my uncle taught me to ride a bike!?
OneManWolfPak 1 year ago
The world had enough of the Arab terror in campuses!
Amanda75H 1 year ago
You can't be pro-peace AND be pro-Israel. If you read the Talmud and the Zohar you find that all other races are animals in the form of man to serve them. Their religion is a religion of hate:
"I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do." -Ariel Sharon
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 ha! where on earth did u get that quote? from lala land? u r very confused about the whole matter i assure u, do some intensive reading and even better, live in israel for several years to see what its actually like. israel is a SECULAR state, NOT one based on the jewish religion (and by the way your ideas about the talmud and zohar are completely incorrect). to sum it up for you, secular jews follow the jewish people's CULTURE e.g. traditions. LEARN boy, and don't spread hate! PEACE
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I read through all your comments and since you area 100% Kool-Aid drinking Zionist makes you a 100% liar. There's no reason to believe any of the lies a Zionist spews. You people are a disease on the planet and you have no genetic claim to the land of the Jews. You are an insult to real Jews. You are the terrorist.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 lol i've never tried kool-aid. is it good? always entertaining to speak to bigoted "mentally-challenged" clowns. on a serious note, meet some zionists. get to know them. then make a conclusion on who & what zionists are. Still keeping in mind u haven't met a small fraction of zionists out there so ur conclusion might still be wrong. otherwise ur just another bigot, saying only what u hear & read from propagandists. PEACE
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Tell you what. When you psychopaths stop slaughtering children, stealing land, busting economies, controlling news, subverting governments and generally keel over and die I'll consider not hating you. I've met enough of you self righteous Zionist to make me sick to my stomach. I've also seen you animals clamoring for wiping every Arab off the map. You are inherently a dishonest clan of apartheid, war mongers and, to me, that sentences you to have the rest of humanity always hate you.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 by definition of 'zionist' we want one sixth of one percent of the middle east, not as propagandist would fear-monger u "from the nile to the euphrates". by definition we zionists aspire self determination as jews, just as every other fucking race/creed has! we zionists succeeded in establishing a state thru legal diplomatic procedures, not violence (althou there was 1 small violent faction, not tru zionists). sorry to break it to u, we won't "keel over & die" as u sed, sucks to be u
oc00011 1 year ago
@donnely138 & fuck ur rhetoric "slaughtering children". when hav israel EVER intentionally killed palestinian children? NEVER. when hav palestinians intentionally killed jewish children? too many times to count! in operation cast lead for example, the IDF to such great care not to harm civilians that there civilian-terrorist casualty ratio was 1:29 ! that's the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of warfare! don't believe me, research it! stop spitting venomous hate like a little bitch
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Ha... bwahahahahah. You actually do believe your own delusion, don't you, you murderer. What a piece of garbage you are. You sound like Himmler with your excuse that what you are doing is 'humanitarian.' Show Jerusalem bombed out. Show me children in Israel strewn about and chopped to pieces from shelling and bombing. You are a coward from a nation of cowards who is stealing; it doesn't matter how 'little' you want, it doesn't belong to you. I'm a former idiot who used to love Israel.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 listen to urself lol. in ur mind me saying that i & most other zionists are pro-peace (anti genocide of any kind!), pro-equality etc. those are principles u believe is associated with himmler? hav u ever considered that ur insane? u say "show me", show urself, read boy! live there & see for urself! in the 2 intifadas u had places packed with mothers & their prams (babies) getting blown up in israel. in late 80s early 90s u had children getting snatched from their mothers & stabbed!
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 You are white. You are not a Semite. You are of European stock. All Zionist who have not Read the Jewish Histories will fail to understand that they are NOT in line to have any land other then ancient Khazaria. And frankly, if you were invading my land, murdering my people, taking my things and destroying my way of life... I'd fight back any way I could. You are the invader.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 u must be desperate to hate me being a jew if ur stooping to 'ur a nazi coz u want peace & equality with palestinians' & 'there are prostitutes in an israeli city so they must be evil' lol.. what big city in the world doesn't hav prostitutes? what a joker. look, israel will defend the right of jews to be self-determined in a microscopic piece of land in the world, they will defend minorities like arabs to have equal rights in their country, they will always defend humanitarian action
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Microscopic? WTF? You're building a wall around people and SHELLING them! SHOW me the bombed out cities of Israel. Show me the children slaughtered in pools of gore and blood. Proof is required. You are a brainwashed and inferior animal. Zionist are the evil in the world and everyone else knows it. You actually have to pass LAWS to keep people from saying bad things about you.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 again, laughably stupid. the only times israel has ever attacked palestinians were when israel's civilians were being targeted & killed. the wall (again, 75% fence you brainwashed nazi) was put up to avoid further buses, schools, cafes, shopping malls all getting attacked with suicide bombings, every fucking day, sometimes 5 in a single day, all over israel. Now the "wall" is there, almost 0 suicide bombings. CAUSE & EFFECT. you've never lived there, u just watch nazi videos, u bigot
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 What's REALLY hilarious is my last comment getting 'flagged as spam' because it shows Mossad involvement in 9/11. And no, your precious wall is under construction and is going to surround it. And why, pray tell, would I want to live in your shitty little desert camp? You're the one spouting propaganda; the same shit I used to believe to my shame. Zionist are SO HATED people will strap BOMBS to themselves to just kill a FEW of you. All you spout is propaganda.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 "Zionist are SO HATED people will strap BOMBS to themselves to just kill a FEW of you"
that's the same as saying terrorists who killed americans in 9/11 or in the UK, or numerous other countries, do this because those civilians are hated. therefore its justifiable coz these civilians 'frustrated' the terrorist into doing that. the reason u don't see pictures of slaughtered israeli children is what's called a 'privacy act' in the civilized world, u wudn't wana c ur loved 1s dead on tv
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Look, the 'terrorist' do what any person would do if his home was being ripped from him, his culture was being destroyed, his family members being killed and his way of life being choked out of existence. The Zionist agenda has CREATED the atmosphere in which this terrible consequence is occurring. And the 'terrorist' who attacked the USA are the same terrorist who attacked the USS Liberty. You tried to drag us into your war with Egypt and now you've got us killing the Muslims for you.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 no. terrorism existed long before zionism. arabs mass slaughtered 'palestinian' jews way before israel existed. what created terrorism is the core motive of radical islamists - focusing on a verse from their scriptures saying islam will take over the world By Force, killing all non-muslims. they attack israel, usa, uk etc bcoz these countries represent freedom values that they loathe. majority of zionists want peace & equality for all, fact. me included, i wud have no reason to lie.
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 "focusing on a verse from their scriptures saying islam will take over the world By Force, killing all non-muslims. they attack israel, usa, uk etc bcoz these countries represent freedom values that they loathe. majority of zionists want peace & equality for all, fact. me included, i wud have no reason to lie." Which verse claims this? Zionists want to take Greater Israel back from the Arabs. They will have peace once settlers finish stealing the land of Palestinian children
Mirza247 1 year ago
@Mirza247 there are some muslims who ignore these verses & live peacefully, but to answer ur question: 2:190-193, 2:216-217, 2:244-245, 4:74-77, 4:95-96, 5:51, 5:72-73, 8:12-15, 8:37-39, 9:5 ('verse of the sword'), 9:14, 9:20, 9:29, 9:41, 9:73, 9:123, 22:38-39, 25:52, 47:4, 48:29, 60:4, 61:9-11.. there's also 9 hadiths that say this message of killing all non-muslims who refuse to convert. the few zionists who want 'greater israel' r seen by mainstream zionists as crazy, don't get it twisted
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Refer to as many random verses you want but there are only few which bring doubt into a non-muslims mind about how peaceful the Religion of Islam is. I have countered many verses in the past so bringing up some new ones will be no challenge to me. A simpleton such as yourself cannot even begin to understand the verses of the Qur'an unles it is spelt out to you! So just quote some verses alongside your commentary to see how ignorant you really are
Mirza247 1 year ago
@Mirza247 anything a zionist/jew says is wrong yeh? look, jews lived in canaan much before the arabs did & THAT is a fact. still, i believe both shud live side by side there peacefully if only the arabs didn't constantly try commit a genocide of the jews i.e.destruction of israel! if u actually read then u'll see that many palestinians left out of choice, most others were told to temporarily leave by arab nations for the war where they'd 'drive the jews to the sea'. enough with the ignorance!
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 "Many palestinians left out of choice, most others were told to temporarily leave by arab nations for the war where they'd 'drive the jews to the sea'. enough with the ignorance!" This is an absurd thing to even suggest....the Palestinians would not and have not left because of what the arabs around them have said. No person gets up and leaves just like that, and I told you already about the debt Israel has to pay to asylums which is recognised internationally!
Mirza247 1 year ago
@Mirza247 the palestinians DID leave through arab leaders' recommendations. why? bcoz they thought they were coming back to israel very soon, once the war is over. u don't know what ur talking about, obviously! jews didn't 'steal' their land, they legally bought arab land for generous sums of money. anyway, the vast majority of land of the palestinian mandate was given to the arabs by britain e.g. jordan & much of ancient israel! so no, they could've not fought & negotiated peacefully instead!
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Ignorance is saying that the Palestinians had no right to fight the Jews that took their land. Say if a Roman comes to me and says they lived at my house over a thousand years ago and therefore the land belongs to them, I would say F U this is my land which I bought and no historical reason like that will make me leave. This was the case with the Palestinians (Not to mention the Arabs were the first people to arrive in Canaan)...A fact known by all historians!
Mirza247 1 year ago
@Mirza247 the 'arabs' weren't the 1st people to arrive in canaan, it was the semitic peoples (what is today JEWS, arabs, ethiopians, persians etc).. JEWS hav historically been living there since 3000 years ago til now, fact. the jews that came from the holocaust to israel were in greater numbers than britain allowed, & if u experienced what they did u wud understand why! & how dumb r u seriously. they were prepared for war? LOL! they had NO ammunition for that war, completely unprepared!
oc00011 1 year ago
@Mirza247 I agree, I've read many of these so called versus and can't see how they are trying to take over Europe. I have however read the Talmud in portions that make the Quran look utterly peaceful.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 ..if so, why do u not ask what UNITES israel, instead of only asking what divides it? why do u choose to stay ignorant about israel's core values of equality to all its citizens- jews, arabs, indians etc. WHY do u ignore how the israeli mentality is built from this very seed? 7 milliion population, a country the size of Wales, with people from 130 different countries, All types of cultures & creeds mixed together without even a thought of segregation. truly. live there for a few yrs
oc00011 1 year ago
And WTF is with your 'lizard' thing? I believe in corruption and only someone who had absolutely no leg to stand on with their lame ass arguments would invoke such a ridiculous claim like that. How cowardly. I know what the facts are and you do not. You're obviously young and all you do is recite the official lines to yourself and your friends to reinforce the delusion that Israel is some kind of 'chosen race' and has a right to land because 'everyone else' has it.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 & no its nothing about israel being of a 'chosen race' lol its about jews needing self determination like every other people. there's no peace yet bcoz even most 'moderate' palestinians want a state that *replaces* israel for yet another islamic state - as is their doctrine. the Few zionists that talk about wiping out arabs are not true zionists. enslaving the goy? lol! now u really sound like a nazi propagandist. all zionists want & need is that little sliver of land to be free ppl
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 So you take the rights of others for your own? I'm not buying it. There's no moral or natural law which supports this claim. You can cite whatever you want, it doesn't change what you are.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 look at the history on how countries r formed e.g. england. they all hav background in violence, yet only israel is somehow illegitimate? if anything, israel was a country set up with more diplomacy & least violence than most. no taking 'rights of others', trying to negotiate with others to live side by side. its the nazi propaganda that was campaigned in the middle east by amin al husseini & others that motivated the arabs to get rid of all the jews, no negotiations. this is fact!
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 That is, indeed a fact. Al Husseini did negotiate with Himmler. And for the last 50 years leading up to then Ashkenazi/Khazarian Jews had been infiltrating and causing trouble there. His negotiation was for the removal of all non-indigenous to be forcibly removed. However it was the Zionist Izaak Greenbaum in 1938 who said this: "One Cow in Palestine is worth all the Jews in Poland." And just because your ancient people converted to Judaism doesn't mean you deserve land for it.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 no. al husseini wanted ALL the jews to be slaughtered, not just ashkenazi jews (he was directly in close alliance with hitler himself), fact. u name 'gruenbaum' like he represents zionists, come on now really? its always the same with u neo-nazis, picking a few names of zionists as if they represent zionists as a whole e.g. LEHI who, by the way, were banned by the 1st israeli government under anti-terrorism law. do u see urself as a person of reason? r u open-minded to other views?..
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Neo Nazis hate black people. They hate Sephardic Jews. They hate anyone not white. I am Native American you bigot. That just goes to show that a Jew shouts 'Nazi' and 'Anti Semite' whenever they can just to stifle debate. I happen to be grossly overinformed about the USS Liberty and the lies of the Israeli Government regarding that action taken against us. They had a flag flying. They radioed for help. The Pilots IDENTIFIED THEM as US. Don't try that shit with me.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 i don't care what ur ethnicity is. implying that zionists r nazis is antisemitic, which is why i called u a neo-nazi! what, u don't get fascist bigots from any non-europeans? there was (allegedly) 4 zionists (out of MILLIONS) that tried to MANIPULATE nazis, not pledge allegiance to them, so don't try THAT shit with me! u think u know something? what do YOU think 'zionism' means? what attempts for peace has israel made? what's the human rights conditions there compared to arab states?
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Calling me a Neo-Nazi is a blatant attempt to discredit me. Anti-Semitism is the boy-who-cried-wolf a million times over and it just won't work. Neo Nazis follow a religious paradigm called Aryanism and hate everyone but fellow Aryans. Therefore I cannot be a 'Neo Nazi.' However comparing the ACTIONS of Israel to that of the Nazis is not comparing Ideology; it is simply a condemnation of action as perceived by planet Earth to be atrocities and war crimes - even if debatable.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 centrist/mainstream zionists believe this while standing for notions of non-violence, tolerance, & security for their people from serious threats (violence when absolutely necessary). these zionists are not 'expansionists', they always believed in negotiation & attempt to resolve tensions through supporting others in every way possible e.g.thousands from gaza & west bank taken for treatment in israeli hospitals (some patients tried suicide bombing the hospital in these opportunities)
oc00011 1 year ago
@donnely138 its a strange phenomenon we see today where israel are condemned by everybody everywhere, all the time, while sickening genocides & human rights violations in sudan, iran, n.korea, afghanistan, saudi etc. r relatively ignored. & people somehow don't hear about israel's development projects in the west bank, israeli organizations for empowering minorities (inc. arabs) in israel, success stories of democratic processes, standards of living of arabs in israel compared to in arab states
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I'll be straight with you. If I can get shown the bombed out areas of Israel in comparison to the Gaza strip I would be much more willing to accept that many Zionist condemn such actions. My problem is that there are many JEWS who protest the state of Israel. And anyone who has a problem with Israel is called an Anti-Semite and the holocaust card is played. The world has unmitigated RESENTMENT towards Israel and it can NOT heal until Israel engages the rest of the world.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 oh there was plenty of bombed out areas of israel they just weren't aired on every media network like the frenzy they've had on the palestinian side. i'm glad ur genuinely interested in making ur own mind up from getting balanced views from both sides of the argument, it shows strength of character. believe it or not i actually argued the palestinian case for many years, just from fear of being biased as i'm from israel.. anyway, youtube: 'hamas in headlines', 1st link. continued
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I watched the vid. I know about many of those. What you need to understand is that the Zionist HERE in the USA are raging, foaming at the mouth, insane fascist. I hate Hamas. I also know this, and it might shock you, Hamas was created by Mossad (like Al Queda was created by the CIA) : "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)". - according to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
donnely138 1 year ago
@oc00011 In fact the same way our CIA should take the blame for terrorism so should Mossad. They are both complicit in the creation, funding and radicalization of Islamist groups who started as religious and were militarized by both countries.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 ur claim about mossad might/might not be true, i'd need to research it. wudn't surprise me, such organizations all round the world r often corrupt, as is the nature of human beings sadly. regarding usa zionists, what about 'hillel neuer' (youtube him)? i'm sure there's plenty more like him otherwise he wudn't have gotten the position he is in now. u need to understand that zionists everywhere affiliate with contrasting political ideas, '2 jews, 3 opinions' like they say in israel.
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Let me put it to you this way: The CIA funded and trained Osama Bin Laden. Every time the US needed a reason to attack something he was the excuse. It was a boogeyman they created and used. The USA, because of the CIA, is a fascist state bent on imperial domination. If the CIA were disbanded and its chiefs incarcerated and power restored to the people we would find their list of corruption, conspiracy and atrocities to long to read. All in the name of America.
donnely138 1 year ago
@oc00011 To even disagree with the policies of Israel we get attacked. This invites an absolute HATRED for a state which until 1948 didn't even exist! I've had friends who lived over there who tell me atrocities happen. I know for a fact my country is committing HORRIFYING atrocities in Iraq. I don't worship my country and I don't worship a material state. You seem to think its strange that people don't like Israel the world over... maybe there's something to it.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 don't 4get that its not only a case of how many casualties. 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I doubt that YOU are evil. I doubt that you commit atrocities. The plain fact is this: all governments engaged in war commit atrocities. And every atrocity by anyone is hailed as a great victory and the the 'victors' make the news favorable only to them. But look man, taking farmlands that belonged to someone else is against the laws of man, its against moral laws, its against the laws of God.
donnely138 1 year ago
@donnely138 i don't think israel's some all-righteous sinless state, there hav been mistakes made like every other nation e.g. i criticize israel's current settlement building & its positioning of some of the fence's locations. but i know there's genuinely been striving for negotiations & peace with the arabs since the beginning, plenty of examples for this. yet media is consistently biased to the extreme, everywhere. its always sensationalist angles never honest reporting
oc00011 1 year ago
They attacked us and they knew full goddamn well what they were doing. Try researching it outside of Israeli propaganda. Mistaken identity my ass. It was a two hour raid, the ship was DIRECTLY jammed. And when it was drifting along Israeli Gunships (helicopters) were incoming and only veered away when the American ship Saratoga got into visual range. It was because you wanted war and were willing to kill and deceive to achieve it.
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