George Coleman & Ahmed Jamal - My foolish heart I

[1deborahsf]

Lindo! Na medida certa para o meu insensato coração rsrsrrs Thanks!

[Barakx8]

I had never heard of George Coleman (just when you think you know everything, too!) and am so happy I listened to the email from "Jazz On The Tube". It is a great site--take a look!

[gatitame2azul]

SWEETNESS

[frawhi65]

Jamal is remarkable. Coleman...Big Sound...Real Greatness!

[BLANCPAIN1775]

music is not tv french late muzzic

En français c'est facile de "balancer" un concert repiqué sur feu la chaine muzzik depuis absorbée par mezzo !!!

[Navroze]

It takes four to show the way and George Coleman to tell what is there. Brilliant Jamal..one and only....

[ILoveToScrub]

Should never have come across this. I think I made a baby today.

[hmol1955]

Well - Ahmed or Armad - he had his payment held back i Switzerland, all of a sudden suspected for terror, by the CIA. All becourse of the name it self - those (or is it theese, pardon my english) protecters of civilization obviously did´nt know abthing else about him. Have´nt anyone told them about Google?

[hmol1955]

Well - Ahmed or Armad - he had his payment held back i Switzerkand, all of a sudden suspected for terror, by the CIA. All becourse of the name it self - those (or is it theese, pardon my english) protecters of civilization obviously did´nt know abthing else about him. Have´nt anyone told them about Google?

[adriankorsner]

Coleman is the master. Highly thought of but under rated. Its a real master class. I wish there were more of this highly original maestro.

[lexo30]

@adriankorsner I agree, wonderful player. Absolutely a classic.

[CAROLYNMARIE18]

OH Yea Baby;;

[clapas1000]

Ahmad Jamal n'est jamais aussi bon qu'en trio..pas toujours a l'aise dans un rôle d'accompagnateur..l'integratio­n de George Coleman n'est pas evidente..heureusement ils se connaissent bien ..et au final c'est pas trop mal.Mais je connais de plus beaux 4Tet !

[sonsoflegends]

@ Whatisthescore, George never got kicked out of Miles's band I don't know why people keep spreading that lie. If you knew Miles or George or any of the cats who were in that band you would know that is a ridculous statement.

[saxmalvas]

grandioso, solo genios pocos pueden expresar la musica de esa forma.

[saxmalvas]

grandioso, solo genios

[dreadtodred]

Check out George and his circular breathing,out of sight!!

[casseroledish]

@mariavasilei Don't dis my Ahmad Jamal! He is sensational. The man brings it.

[casseroledish]

@mariavasilei Don't dis my Ahmad Jamal! He is sensational.

[mariavasilei]

Ahmad Jamal-- the most overrated pianist in jazz history

Playing Anything-- anything , except jazz phrasing...

[rmoraespinto]

I can hear GC playing ballads with Miles on the Stella by Starlight album. And feel moved all the same. What great tenor player he is!

[earthchild100]

no song has made me cry before, until this one

[sivaddivad]

He plays over the rainbow at the end ! ;)

[raydog699]

Ahmad(sic)--spelling doesn't count a hecluva mounttt does it? I akse u

[Stevenelow]

Loving the gershwin quotes by ahmad

[dreadtodred]

big George and Ahmed what a duo

[seerskater]

george coleman looks like he was made for the tenor saxophone

[takezo2001]

ethereal performance

[TheNYeye]

It would be impossible for two artists to jointly paint a masterpiece but great jazz artists do. And they often do it with a smile of mutual appreciation as they create together.

[LUMADY1]

algo de bueno de verdad-!!!!----saludos.....

[Axyfication]

Awesome! What year was this and where?

[honey724]

my uncle is a wonderful player

[hughwrang]

sublime stuff, thx for posting

[Azman1008]

Ahmad Jamal; you are my old time favourite pianist. George Coleman; you are my boppish tenor !!! Superb trio !!!

[Listen4u2b]

It just leaves you wanting more and more and......

[CamelOnDirtBike]

You got to change the name to ahmad!! please! :)

[EricinOzWilliams]

Lovely!

[sustenido4us]

Eterno classico bem improvisado pelo G. Coleman

[AliveAnew]

Love the circular breathing at 4:54!

[neilx49]

ColemanBack in tn the '70s I had a chance to jam with Mr Coleman in Chicago. When I realized who he was, I put my tenor up and went to school that night! What a privilege to be alive wnile musicians like him are still with us. Thank you George and Ahmad!

[honey724]

@neilx49 it truely is a blessing to have george coleman as my uncle him and my grandfather play really good they even got me into playing i can listen to him play for hours

[laurakolb]

Terrific..................!

[Streamline09]

Beautiful. When and where was this recorded?

[mdragon1231]

In Japan

[Streamline09]

@mdragon1231 Thanks, was this in the '90s?

[interjazzional]

please change Ahmed to Ahmad

[Randy1922Ross]

Superb musicians locking into each others' sound space and sensibilities. It doesn't (and perhaps can't) get any better than this.

[Whatisthescore]

coleman got kicked out of miles band for shorter,,shows how high a level of musicianship miles looked for

[jtbsax]

Coleman left on his own, he wasn't kicked out for Shorter. In fact, even though Miles though of Wayne first, Coleman's immediate replacement was Sam Rivers because Wayne was still committed to Art Blakey at the time. Shorter resigned from the Jazz Messengers during Rivers' brief tenure and when he quit after only a few months, that's when Shorter joined Miles.

[Whatisthescore]

@jtbsax I understand all that..you must not have heard the stories of Miles getting angry at George every night because he wasn't playing "out" enough...or just not going in the right direction. That's what meant, I know Rivers was in there for a while first.

[sonsoflegends]

I wish people would stop talking about stuff they don't know anything about. I was at Miles home with my mom where he was begging her to convince my dad to come back to the band which he refused to do. Miles always loved my Dad especially because unlike so many other musicians and people he was never intimidated or afraid to speak his mind to Miles. He left the band for the simple reason he wasn't getting paid and with a wife and two children that was unacceptable to him.

[honey724]

@sonsoflegends hey who is your dad george coleman is my uncle

[saxophile1]

@jtbsax So were you there in the room? I don't claim to be an expert on why certain band members left bands 50 ys ago but then again maybe you were there and know something I don't. Though somehow I doubt it--probably just another Internet "expert." What we do know is that he left the highest profile jazz tenor gig in the world w/o moving up or even laterally to anything nearly as big so that speaks volumes right there on whether it was by choice. I did read that he and Herbie didn't get along.

[jtbsax]

@saxophile1 Shorter, Cannonball, and Coltrane all left Miles too. What happened after they left, whether they were more successful or not, has no correlation to how they left. I forget where I read that Coleman left of his own accord, but I have trouble believing Miles would kick him out for Sam Rivers.

As for Herbie, Coleman recorded Maiden Voyage with him and the rest of Miles' rhythm section after his departure from the quintet so I don't know how accurate that is unless it happened later.

[Blackgeoff1]

@jtbsax the story I read somewhere was roughly that Miles owed him money and George was pissed off not being paid , or something; Miles asked him to come back but he didn't .... I found the story some time back - it's somewhere on youtube. It's too bad really 'cos for my taste the band Miles had with George Coleman was the best

[jtbsax]

@saxophile1 I remember where I read it. "Milestones" by Jack Chambers. It quotes an interview where Coleman says he was frustrated because Miles was ill and frequently only played one set if he played at all and that there was a lot of pressure on him when Miles was a no show. People came expecting to see Miles Davis and it was just him leading a quartet. He also said that there were money issues and he'd get paid late and that he just got tired of it. His words. Take it for what it's worth.

[nadirsharav]

Jamal's smile in 5:07 says it all.

[PJRome07]

YES it does lol

[Streamline09]

Nadirsharav, absolutely it does!

[blueyedboymrdeath]

@nadirsharav Little bit of circular breathing going on there...

[blueyedboymrdeath]

@nadirsharav Little bit of circular breathing going on there... Ahmad smiled at that I think. Too bad his solo is cut off at the end. Wonderful post.

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[adeduction]

Thanks tenorfreak - I too liked Coleman's solo a lot . The way he ended his solo was really creative, unexpected & original - at least for me. I really like to see the great jazz musicians that I listened to a lot when I was a teenager still alive, still playing great - some better than ever & aging like great great wine.

[jazz1bro]

Incredible creativity!

[elfcounsul]

sweet

[SamHartSaxophone]

George Coleman is amazing. Ahmad Jamal is great too. They work very well with each other. great performance

[alexistexias]

wao wonderfullllll

[Rusty867]

Amazing. I love when he sounds like he didn't quite reach his altissimo. But then you realize his greatness. Tonguing is ridiculous.

[TomVincentMusic]

circular breathing too! Jazz - great art form. ageless.

[janetvan83]

Does anyone know who the recording techs were on this or what they used? The superb artistry of these jazz greats really comes through.

[sanblem]

Che atmosfera,che eleganza dio benedica i jazzisti!

[jack60r]

Un tenore ed un piano così, un batterista che lavora di spazzole, un basso discreto, una partitura come questa: ecco ciò che serve per portare l'uomo su Giove. Altro che dischi volanti!

[bahbuhbih]

why is he dressed as son goku

[maidoodesu]

福（good luck)　ハッピいい~~~ネ。

[colsnake331]

Is there a Part 2 to this or did I miss it?

Great post.

[Feesharp9er]

ooooooooohhh ART

[sonsoflegends]

That was really great wish they had the whole tune.

[DillydALLYLally]

Bloody Beautiful Song!! xx

[carabocawibo]

He sounds like George Coleman and what helps is that he is in absolute control of the instrument, I think, every note comes out the way he wants it...

[Robertz61]

Mr. Coleman. A music gentleman

[PollyX5]

Ahmad, not Ahmed

[tecacou]

Great !!!! Beautiful!

[sumbaswing]

if you play sax then you know coleman is on eof our greats, thank god he's still around. that tone is unforgetable. i met him once and he was such a gentleman. class all the way. a musicians musician.

[LeatherWriter]

Why compare? Exercises like that just take free expression and put it in boxes. Go compare two roses and you'll waste the same amount of your life in the effort.

[tidalriddle]

doo da looo doo da loo doo da loo doo da loo doo da loo DO da do DO da do YES epic masterly thank you

[mumbleora]

Masterful!!

[uminhiro]

George Coleman is the real unsung hero, players' player and the king of tenor! Listen to his circular breatning and all the technique. This video is great. Thanks.

[chriscorso1]

truth in music says..lovely!

[valentynesuite]

Excellent ...as usual for musicians like those...Jamal is a piano genius anc Coleman have his own way and own sound that shines mostly in the Davis' work

Who's the line up for this trio?

[knightyaccha]

anyone know what coleman's setup in this vid is? mouthpiece in particular

[robmansax]

Looks and sounds to me that he is playing his Selmer Mark VI with his Otto Link STM 7*... one of my favourite tenor sax tone ever, sublime George Coleman, thanks.

[knightyaccha]

that must be a vintage otto link..that is THE sound of a good link...I love it....I have to put a baffle in my V16 T8 vandoren hard rubber piece to get the sweet link sound...

[robmansax]

I've played for some time a V16 T9 Vandoren, very good MPC but it misses something compared to a good STM link, maybe the V16's chamber is to small and its baffle too low or maybe it lack a bit of edge just because isn't metal, who knows?

[magicdudegary]

This is it

[am3155]

I have never understood, even to this day, why big George never got the respect due his enormous sound and virtuosity. Many of his solos while with Miles Davis back in the day, were pure genius.

[paulibaer]

I fully agree. But they wanted to go in another direction (no "standards-stuff").

Eargasm!

[am3155]

Are you suggesting that Big George would have been more widely respected or acclaimed had he adopted a more aggressive, dissonant tone? Lester Young was as lyrical a tenorman as ever there was. Yet he is still considered an icon in most jazz circles even though his sound was the polar opposite of his most prominent contemporary Coleman Hawkins.

[paulibaer]

Nope. I like the way he plays, but quoting the Miles Davis Bio, Tony Williams thought, Coleman was playing too "inside", it's not about tone, i think.

[willy4u4u]

I agree..Joshua solo was amazing.

[bahbuhbih]

george coleman problem was succeding coltrane

[am3155]

Actually,Coltrane was succeeded first by Sonny Stitt then Hank Mobley. Big George didn't join Miles until around 1963...I think.

[Jazzman303]

Your not going to go say that it was just succeeding Coltrane in miles' group. Cuz Trane had so much power over the most in his lifetime that everyone pretty much got less attention.. He was too powerful. Many, many Tenor players struggled because of Trane. WHAT A MAN.

George Coleman.. Is also quite the player.

[rovingeye5]

sure, a problem if you look at playing music like it's a competition, vis-a-vis-this person is better than that one- it's not really true- everyone exists as their own person and in George Coleman's case, has his own unique style, therefore suceeding Coltrane was not a problem do those who realize this

[sonsoflegends]

Actually the way George got into Miles was on the suggestion of Coltrane as George was one his favorite cats.

[dodiese09]

GREAT !!!!

[jwh88]

This is what you want in a jazz standard, eloquent, straightforward, yet free/

[jazzmunky]

Wow, what a sound!

[dreadtodred]

beautiful

[robertojimenez204]

Wow...! Thats some playin! Love it!

[M0RENA007]

love this song....awesome..!!!

[grijazz]

Beautiful!!

[roadrocket7]

Tell you how good George Coleman is: Miles Davis picked him after Hank Mobley and John Coltrane had left. Listen to Miles In Europe.

God, what TONE! 5 stars!!!!

[YUKTE]

VERY VERY GREAT!

[ankhaton]

Great, . . .

At last some real swinging as I do myself on Youtube

[sailorguyli]

Love it,,and dig that shit eating grin on Jamal  when he hits a cool riff

[billevans03]

good lord

[bteiv676]

Black American Classical Music...can't get enough of that funky stuff

[mynameismudd33]

what makes u think that jazz is just african american's music?

[dreadtodred]

what the poster wants to say is jazz was invented by black american muscians,through the advent of negro spirituals,gospel and blues and its considered america,s classical music because it was birthed here,unlike classical music which was brought over from europe.

[namaste1107]

Music belongs to and comes from all of us!

[PhilAroundhits]

I think the term classical doesn't fit, cause classical musicians don't improvise. I live in France and in little schools we have no jazz depts. Most teachers play classic. As they don't improvise, don't compose (check it) and form readers. Classical music, even if I love it, is dictatorial. Every student should have the right to be creative. Jazz brought us freedom with a high level in harmony. Ahmad or Mr Coleman are giants. But every jazz player is an artist. Afro-american, now world music.

[Robertz61]

Questo video è una vera perla.

Grazie.

[Robertz61]

Un video che è una vera perla.

Complimenti.

[hitmanisback]

g c im blown away every time i hear him ,great player reminds me of henderson in tone

[Saxobari]

Thanks for posting this video!

Man what a band! I can see Ahmed treuly enjoying George C. playing!Watch Ahmed smiling!!

What a tenor guy he is!

Thanks again for such a great video of these amazing musicians!

All the best

Mario from Canada

[PianistaItaliano]

Fantastici! Great Post!

[ChristianW53]

Fantastic; I am hearing it again and again since two hours. Ahmed is great too, who are the other members of the band ?

[lairdlord]

Mr. George Coleman, one of the greatest tenor players ever. He ranks in the pantheon of most gifted of musicians in my humble opinion. Tip... hear him with "Abbey Lincoln" on "Another Valley" the Jewel in the Crown.

[dreadtodred]

man what a piano player ahmed is

[dreadtodred]

george coleman a world class tenor man left miles and did his own thing,still in words a great sax player.he didnt gain the nororiety because he prematurely left miles group when it was hip to be in it.

[Rsanaa]

SUPER COOL!!!

[watchagonnadu]

Wow, wow, wow! What incredible musicianship. What intuitive interplay. Thank goodness the director of this fine piece of video had the common sense to let the music speak for itself. No need for up-the-nose close ups or attention deficit camera work.

[fjdmusicman]

wow, I watched and listened, and I remain humble and in awe to the talent of George Coleman and Ahmed Jamal. I totally agree that George is under rated, when he came on the scene he was touted as the next John Coltrane by critics, he has proved himself more than worthy to all. This performance is stunning, I have been watching it for 3 weeks, just amazing.. Thank you Mr. Coleman !!!!! downzbeats gives this 4 stars !!

[bernie5123]

listening to Ahmads voicings...what a great piano player!!

[Rivrlivr]

I tend to agree with vova47.....George's playing is sublime!!

[vova47]

George must be the most underrated saxophonist working today! He and Hank Mobley are the only tenor players that played and recorded with Miles and did not become stars.They are too musical for critics! George´s playing with Miles for me is WAY better than Wayne Shorter!And he still kicks butt with Jamal!

[MilesTrane21]

Mobley and Coleman were both underrated, but don't say anything against Wayne.

[Lot2learn]

Thanks for a great post!