He doesn't pay tribute to them, as this disgusting and slanderous description states. He acknowledges that they happened, and that however bad they were, the end result, our nation, was worth their happening. Apparently the douchebag that made this description, and those who agree, are indeed made of sugar candy.
This sugar candy commentary makes me sick! Paul Harvey paying tribute to the atomic bomb, as well as genocide! What about the abortion genocide? 40 million+ babies have been aborted in nearly 40 years! We have to stop this kind of "sugar candy" business today!
I dont condone war, but my uncle died in New Guinea, was murdered by the Japanese. My father had a ship shot out from under him in the North Atlantic fighting the same war. Had the war continued he would have gone to the Pacific and may not have returned, in which case I would not be writing this. A LOT of people suffered on both sides. The atomic bomb was terrible but it also saved a lot of lives, those of the people who ended up NOT dying because the war was over.
@Spaceflightlover2010 Agreed! Sadly, there is a dipshit on here who feels sympathy for the people who killed your uncle and all the other G.I.'s. See below, his screen names starts with "Mother". A mother fucker is what he is and should he be hung for treason.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Another stupid statement. The Japs were still waging war in China you stupid fuckhead. They proved that they would fight to the end. READ something about the war you fag.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Are you insane? What will the courts say when your neighbor antagonizes you enough into shooting him dead? That's morally the same thing? Hahahaahahahahah! How did America "antagonize" the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor? By cutting off the oil if they did not leave China, a nation they were raping all through the 30's? How did the Poles antagonize Hitler into invading? Or Russia? Hahahahahahahahahaha.... Sooooooo funny and soooooooo dumb.
@guitarheroplayer94 What would be the reaction of the United States to having its oil cut off? Bet it wouldn't be nonviolent. The Japanese were not the first to rape China, BTW. European countries (and the US) were in there beforehand. But that rape was OK because we were in on it.
Hitler considered the "Polish Corridor" a slap in the face (just like those Us politicians who didn't want to give back the Panama Canal) and wanted to go after them for "national honor".
@MotherSTUCKER868 If we were commiting an international crime like invading with the intent of genocide or complete absorbtion of another nation into our own, and the nation(s) who controlled the oil told us to stop or else, I guess the answer would be "Who knows?" Everyone has the right to trade with us or not. BTW, we have plenty of oil here... Drive into Oklahoma or Texas and have a look at all the capped wells.
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, but it's gotten harder and harder to "drill, baby, drill" especially after incidents like the BP spill last year. US also wants to be able to deny oil to potential rivals, so even if all US petro needs could be supplied domestically, they'd still want to control the Middle East.
@MotherSTUCKER868 We have plenty of oil in the South as well as Alaska. Home defence needs a military and the military (currently) needs oil. The first one who runs out LOSES.
@guitarheroplayer94 I tried this already. BTW, his REAL screen name is "Upperkkut." Do some research on him and you can see what you are dealing with!
@poughkeepsiejohn1 so I ask you as I have asked Upperkkut (because he shot his mouth off about us being so "mean and nasty" using a-bombs on the poor helpless, and innocent Japanese) Are you saying we did something wrong in saving American lives by using atomic weapons? Show me why, especially since the firebombings did much more damage and killing. The "Japs" got what they deserved... a good ass kicking. And they certainly would have used them on us if they had them (a-bombs.)
@upperkkut But we DID save American lives. Your thought pattern is a myth to justify your attempts at making this an atrocity, as I have explained to you "oh-so-many times. American lives were saved because we did not have to storm the mainland beaches. GET IT? Nope... you don't but the VAST majority of historians and veterans do get it. We used the bomb to END the war. Japan and Germany would have used the a-bomb to to MURDER US and conquer us. Big difference.
@STUCKER868 No killing kids isn't an atrocity. As I've explained before much of the problem was with the demand for unconditional surrender and the position of the Emperor. Could it be US authorities purposely made it "impossible" for the "Japs" to surrender so they'd have a pretext for the non-atrocity? Just to see how it works and show everybody they had it?
"We" did not have to storm the mainland beaches at any rate becaue "we" had the upper hand.
@upperkkut Hehehe... we had the upper hand? There were still 10 million Jap soldiers killing Chinese on the mainland. In early 45, Japan launched it's most successful offensive on the mainland. We may have had the military upperhand but we still had to force THEM to stop shooting US.
@RoykeltonO Perhaps if we'd not been bombing their country they wouldn't have had such burning desire to shoot us. Or we could've negotiated for peace. Yeah, I know, that's for pussies.
@RoykeltonO Now I know it's a big word--4 very intimidating syllables, but if you'll look it up (you know how to do that, right?) you'll see that's not what it means.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Could not agree more! I can't believe we even declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor! What a waste of resources! And all the killing of those innocent Japanese! Terrible, just terrible! You see, as a gay man, I am very sensitive to any kind of personal attacks (war or peacetime!)
@UpperKunt It would be more authentic with 2 "k"s. Actually. lots of closeted gay men are very aggressive and macho, to hide it. Again, I think you must want STUCKER868. He's very jingoistic and has an obsession with homosexuality, probably in response to his own suppressed gay desires.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Jingoistic? Are you sure? You must admire STUCKER868 if you decided to "hi-jack" part of his screen name in honor of him! Perhaps you ARE gay and because of your inner effeminate attraction to macho type men, you chose his name for yours? How SWEET!
@UpperKunt STUCKER868 suffers from self-esteem issue, that's why he' s so mindlessly nationalistic. So I thought he'd like a little egogasm by seeing his name appropriated. I don't think he's "macho" in any real sense (though he seems to like to put forward that image--again, part of his basic insecurity) because he's not man enough to actually think for himself.
@MotherSTUCKER868 An "egogasm?" Wow, you seem to be somewhat sexually connected with this fellow. Perhaps you are his jaded lover and out of revenge you feel a need to broadcast your loathing of him? I guess an egogasm could be the end result of a mind fuck? If you good enough and I doubt you are.
@MotherSTUCKER868 A rasist? You mean to I hate Niggers, Spicks, Japs, Wops, Jews, Panheads, Towel heads, Chinks, "Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, Canuks, Crackers, etc.... No! Not at all, why do you ask? Are you? Trying to form a club or something?
@STUCKER868 Are you saying "we" didn't murder and conquer Japan and Germany? 'Splain me the difference, Lucy.
And if my view is so marginalized, why bother with it? In reality, it isn't a fringe interpretation, epecially outside the boundaries of the US.
And since when does the opinion of veterans, who were sold a bill of goods about the bomb saving them, count? They're not professionals or scholars or whatever other titles you always throw around, just people who were led to believe so.
@upperkkut WTF? We were at war dipshit! They started it, we ended it and in the course of all wars, non-combatants get killed. My grandfather was pacific war vet... and he told me many times he thought he would be killed if they landed in Japan proper. The bomb did save many lives... WTF? We supposed to just stop shooting and wait for Japan to surrender? And what happens when Stalin and company come rolling into China etc.... taking all of it? You are a dumbfuck.
Bombs don't save lives; they destroy them. Yes, we coiuld've easily had a little Cold War with Japan--just like the one they were planning with the USSR. Stalin and company were our allies, weren't they?
But thanks for admitting what most reputable historians do: that the atomic bombings of Japan were more about frustrating/intimidating the Soviets than about "saving lives".
@MotherSTUCKER868 But I have to assume you were not there and he lived it. To me, that makes your views pretty weak. It's like learning the martial arts from a book vs. taking classes from a master. So what, you read a few books on history and the subject (which influences your views...) and you drew an opinion from it. Congrats. However, I will take the word of a man who lived the experience as well as those of his fellow soldiers who shared the same feelings.
@guitarheroplayer94 Really shitty reasoning. I wasn't around to live the witch hysteria of the middle ages, so I guess the people who burned all those women have more authority on the subject than I do. Interesting point. I don't know which man you're referring to who "lived the experience" but if he was just someone who followed orders, he probably didn't know much. And as far as living the experience, I'd say the people the bomb was dropped on lived it just a bit more fully, doncha think?
@MotherSTUCKER868 Yes you fucktard, the people who burned all those women have MORE authority on the subject than you do. You were not there to live it and there is no way you or I can completely understand the mind set of the time. It was my grandfather who "lived it" so what qualifies your sorry ass to know more than the people who lived the experiences? Care to to explain that Jehovah? You must be God if you know ALL about these things and everyone else who lived then are idiots.
@guitarheroplayer94 OK, so now we've established we're not going to make any judgements about any historical events because we weren't there. Which includes Japanese atrocities that people like you are always foaming about. Thanks for clearing that up.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Except the mountains of evidence (including the dead bodies and official Japanese military reports that document each crime.) You were certainly not there, however my grandfather and both of his brothers WERE there. One was a Marine, one was a tincan skipper and the other was codebreaking. Where were you? Probably not even a thought in your daddy's penis yet and that's probably because your daddy was what??? 10 years old?
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, maybe those Japanese atrocities were "necessary" in the same way the bomb was. You're taking the position that we can't make judgements about historical events if we weren't there, so that goes for all of them, not just the ones you want to defend.
For first-hand accounts, try Wilfred Burchett and George Weller.
Once again, did your relatives have access to decision-making at the highest levels?
@MotherSTUCKER868 I am basing my judgements on first hand accounts and also on "accepted" history. Remember what Napoleon (I) said about history. However, the accepted history is the historical theory that is accepted by professionals. How do we REALLY KNOW there was George Washington? There are no photographs of him, recorded audio etc... Only eyewitness accounts and a couple paintings... yet we accept he was real, correct? Your view and history of WWII is tainted and not accepted.
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh, but it is and by more people than you might think, especially if your only reference is Uncle Elmo and the guys at the VFW Hall. Your view is just ever so slightly tainted, too.
Who decides what history is "accepted". You'd have made a great Soviet comrade, with your slavish devotion to party reality.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Trained professionals decide what is accepted history... the history that is in our history books. You are smarter than them.... why don't you write the history books and paint the world in big rainbow colors... you know... something "effeminate" to match your view of the world. Make sure you note in your history book how you the author, show sympathy for the enemy of our flag. That's treason asshole and maybe you should be hung for it?
@guitarheroplayer94 The same trained professionals who worked for the Smithsonian and were censored in 1995? To which history books do you refer? The official stuff taught in high school?
Since when is it treason to think for yourself? To quote Patrick Henry at the Virginia House of Burgesses, "If this be treason, make the most of it."
@MotherSTUCKER868 Perhaps not treason in the exact definition of the word but still defending the enemies who drew blood against us first and killed our fighting men. Sad. If you are an Amercian, you are sad.
@guitarheroplayer94 I'm not defending anyone. But you're the one who's always going on about "it's war and people get killed; tough shit". So just have some integrity and apply that attitude to your "fighting men" as well. all I've ever said is be consistent: if it's OK to mass murder Japanese, Iraqis, etc, it's OK to mass murder Americans.
@MotherSTUCKER868 You're an idiot and I should have known better. Voltaire said it best: "When one has the honor of being received into a respectable society of men of letters, the address one delivers must not be against men of letters: that would be an insult to the society and the public. When one is admitted into a respectable group, one must conceal under the veil of modesty that insolent pride one associates with idiots and people devoid of all talent." With that said, I have failed.
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, if you ever are in a respectable society of men of letters, I recommend you don't go into your Michael Savage wannabe routine.
You have indeed failed--over and over and over again. But keep trying.
@MotherSTUCKER868 I refer to the accredited history that is accepted by professionals. In other words, if you do not have credentials, your opinion and views do not matter to such people. Do you really think a PhD will even consider what YOU might think. Hmmm... I have one. And unless you have at least a Masters, no one would seriously consider your opinions.
@guitarheroplayer94 So you're such a patriotic American that you believe in rank and office as the be-all and end-all. funny, because I've read plenty of stuff by PhD's and known quite a few personally, and they express themselves in less crudea nd simplistice ways than you do. What's your degree in, "Doctor"?
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hahaha. YouTube was not designed as an express all forum. There IS a limit to the written word. I can back up my view with facts though, can you? You can dig out some "facts" from some far left conspiracy book(s) but your views languish with the vast minority. Sorry. My Ph.D. is in Philosophy. A Masters? Wha,t were too lazy to go further? What's your field of study (probably music!) I hope your degree is serving you well but I wager you have done nothing with it.
@guitarheroplayer94 Yep, the "vast" minority. I've done plenty with my degree, thanks. For a philosopher, you seem kind of stupid and unsophisticated.
@MotherSTUCKER868 " Yep, the "vast" minority." You stupid fucker, can't you see I am making fun of you? I was being facetious when I said "Vast minority" because like most retarded liberals, you think the the opinion of the minority body is equal with that of the majority. Your personal, effeminate opinions/comments ARE as far left as you can go... You are a left wing extremist who has ZERO military experience yet you try to sound off like you know what you are talking about.
@guitarheroplayer94 It's already been established that you also lack military experience, General Armchair, so the point is moot. I guess you're a big believer in being in the majority, right? And you tailor your own opinions to being so, for to be otherewise would be "effeminate". You seem to enjoy using that word and consider it the ultimate insult. Are you one of those men who dislikes women and considers them inferior? After all, racist, homophobic, sexist--they all kind of go together.
@MotherSTUCKER868 I LACK military experience? Just eight years of my life in the army, leaving the service a Major. If I lack service experience, where does this leave you girlfriend? I was trained by a professional army to fight a war, something you know nothing about. I use the word "effeminate" because it suits how you behave... like a pussy or a girl. Women and gays have NO place on the field of battle. It hurts morale and I have seen it first hand. Nothing against them of course.
@guitarheroplayer94 Wow, so you're a PhD in philosophy and a war veteran. Reminds me of my youth: when I was 6 or 7 or so, I used to be a cowboy in the morning, an astronaut in the afternoon and a fireman after supper. You don't express yourself like a military type, either.
Did you know that when there actuallyt is battle, they stop drumming people out for being gay? They don't really care who their cannon fodder sleeps with.
@generaljackdripper1 That's right Ms. Master's degree. "Only a PhD and a war vet." You think that's impossible? I'm over 50 some of my education completed before and during my service. The rest came later. How do you know what happens when there is actually a battle when you have never served? And you are wrong about all of it because a known gay presence in camp causes morale issues. Maybe we should have the gay men shower with the straight women? Your female, what would you prefer?
@guitarheroplayer94 Not impossible, but you don't sound like either a PhD or anyone with a military career.
Guess you never heard of Alexander the Great, Mr. Military Historian. BTW, isn't a major component of military training getting them to bond and be willing to die for one another (not a country or anything like that...)
@generaljackdripper1 You watch too much TV, Ms. Master's degree (or spend too much time on Wikipedia.) Since you have NO military training, you are not qualified to judge those who do, nor can you judge the research or writing of any historian as such judgement is merely an amateur opinion. Sorry, but you would be laughed out of any lecture hall.
@generaljackdripper1 "I don't "Sound" like either a" (Vulgar or urban writing does not become an intellect such yourself, Missy.) Perhaps it's the "inflection" in my typing that make me sound "un-military" and "un-PhD." How can one judge someone's character or academic level by the typed or written word on a forum such as this? Would you like me to fax you my credentials? Will my college transcript suffice? A photocopy of my honorable discharge or do you need the real deal?
@generaljackdripper1 Oh for God's sake you are buffoon! There is NO evidence that proves he was a fag. Read what Dr. Craig Johnson has to say about it... In fact, his article is on the web somewhere. Google it. Besides that, I don't give a fuck if he was gay. He was not in MY army and I don't have to worry about him checking out my ass when I am hitting the spray. Got that you effeminate, anti war, no service "Ms. Master degree."
Respond to this video... I merely state the fact (which anyone in the military is aware of) that when the shooting starts, they hold onto every warm body they can, that's why some are doing 2 and 3 tours that they didn't plan on doing.
@MotherSTUCKER868 In other words Madam, since you personally know NOTHING of war and the experience of it, your words and opinions are empty, and a meaningless waste of time and space. You spew forth B/S about immorality of war, yet you have not served. I have never been president either and although I can hate Obama, I am not quailfied to stand on a soap box and bitch about how bad of a job he is doing because I have ZERO experience in politics on his level. Kind of like you! Comprendo?
@guitarheroplayer94 Then since you also have no experience of war, so you can STFU, too.
Why do you hate Obama--other than the fact that he's black, of course. He's every inch the warmonger people like you look up to. Maybe it's because he pretends not to be a warmonger. Unlike his predecessor, he doesn't prance around in a military jumpsuit and say "Bring'em on" and shit like that. Very disappoinitng.
@MotherSTUCKER868 So those Iraqi's that were shooting at my battalion were shooting blanks? I have seen dead and dying including a close friend who died in action in Shield. So you STFU girly man. I don't like Obama because he talks and walks in circles. Skin color has nothing to do with it.
@guitarheroplayer94 Who said anything about blanks? Methinks if you really had seen death up close you wouldn't be such a cavalier douchebag about it. Again, How is Obama different from any other politician. And we know you're a racist, so skin color has a lot to do with it.
@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you? I don't give a fuck what you think. You probably another lazy civ. who sat back on his/her fat ass while I and the rest of the army was fighting for your freedom. When the world is spinning without you on it "twill be a happy day for the rest of us."
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, you should at least know you weren't fighting for my freedom; that's a lie they tell people to get them to sign on. You were fighting for the oil companies and other components of the US empire.
@generaljackdripper1 What you don't understand is that our "empire" runs on oil. Also, we fought for the freedom of our Allies. Kuwait was raped and pillaged by S.H. I am willing to bet that if terrorists suddenly blew up your favorite mall (that your fat body likes to visit,) you will hide behind the U.S. troops who come to your rescue( like the pussy you are). Maybe then you will appreciate the U.S. Army?
@guitarheroplayer94 Maybe April Glaspie should've told Saddam an invasion of Kuwait would be a problem, instead of saying the US doesn't get involved in inter-Arab conflicts.
@generaljackdripper1 More proof that you're a dumb ass. We had a treaty with Kuwait and as an ally we had an obligation to go in... Saddam knew that and was warned BEFORE he invaded.
@generaljackdripper1 Jesus H. Christ you are a stupid fucker. Don't you read anything? Or do you just watch docu-dramas and sit on your front porch and shoot your B.B. gun at the neighbor's cat? Tariq Aziz warned him... His own people warned him. There are also unreleased private transcripts between S.H. and A.G.... S.H. did not read between the lines and misunderstood the dumb bitch.
@guitarheroplayer94 It takes one to know one, doesn't it? No front porch, no BB gun, neighbors don't have a cat. Can't remember last time I saw a "docu-drama"--whatever that is. But I do read quite a bit.
Unreleased private transcripts, huh? And just how do you have knowlege of them????? Wait, let me guess: you're some real big shot who's seen them, right?
@guitarheroplayer94 FYI, it's not that the people who live historical events are idiots, so much as they don't see the whole picture of what's going on and only act on their limited set of circumstances. I very much doubt your grandfather was part of the high command who made the decisions.
@MotherSTUCKER868 But they lived in part of the picture and understood the mind-set of the era... something that you or I can not understand. It was a different time and I have read my grandfather's papers, talked to him and his brothers when they were alive and it was a different time. We knew little or nothing about the Yamato class battleships untill after the war. How could we know anything as secret as the Japanese nuclear program? The program was young but in progress.
@guitarheroplayer94 So was ours. Your implication is that if the "Japs" had had the bomb and had used it "to end he war and save lives" , that would've been OK, too.
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "japs" started the shooting dumbfuck. What don't understand about that retard? The "japs" started the war of blood because they were too stupid to handle the war of words. The post war study of "jap" military papers prove they were out to expand their little nip empire all over the world and we were in the way. Keep defending the enemies who killed the G.I.'s who founght for the flag so your sorry ass could be born NOT under a Swastika or Rising Sun emblem.
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, someone else always starts it and they always adopt tactics that we never would in a million years. I assume the "enemies who killed the G.I.'s (sic) who fought for the flag(etc)..." were doing so for their "flag"--and how stupid does one have to be to fight for a piece of cloth? I was always told they were fighting for democracy...
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "japs" were not doing it for their flag dipshit. You know nothing about what they were fighting for. The government was evil.... do you think Tojo was fighting for the honor of the Japanese flag?
@guitarheroplayer94 Nope, just like US leaders are really fighting for economic dominance. But the little guys always believe the crap about fighting for country.
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "piece of cloth" is a symbol and represents what they are fighting for. Historians don't "assume" anything unless they have a mass of original source information to back up a theory. In your case, your assumption that the "japs" (sic) fought for their flag is lame. Read "Knights of Bushido: A Short History of Japanese War Crimes." Maybe you will learn something. Seriously, when you were little, and your dad was having sex, did he make you swallow?
@guitarheroplayer94 Ok, so, briefly, what exactly were the Imperial Japanese forces fighting for? Maybe a piece of cloth, maybe a man, but one that represented their homes and families to them. And that's how rulers have suckered people from time immemorial--by conning them into thinking they were fighting for their homes and families. Are your original sources on this subject Japanese? They would best be able to express why in their minds they were doing what they were doing.
@MotherSTUCKER868 The typical Japanese soldier was a mindless robot who obeyed orders and did not question them. Do you understand the Asian mind at all? The average Japanese soldier did not care why he was doing what he was doing and out of respect, he followed orders. (Unlike the IJN, which embodied some unit honor because of Tojo and the ships they sailed). The Japanese soldier would have rather died then be dishonored by surrender. How many European soldiers followed that sentiment?
@guitarheroplayer94 OOOh, a little bit racist, are we? Well, color me surprised.
Sorry, but if you knew anything about Japanese history, you'd know there were plenty of peasant uprisings in the feudal period and not a few labor strikes early in the 20th century. All wars are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hmmm... (pondering how stupid you are) To paraphrase you "All wars....(meaning EVERY WAR) are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother." So the 20 million Russians who were killed by invading Axis forces were "duped"? 25 million dead Chinese "duped"? The Poles were "duped"? The French and British were "duped"? And that's only PART of WW2.The term "duped" reminds me of you. Actually the spelling is all wrong... it should be "DOPED."
@guitarheroplayer94 The depth of your stupidity is imponderable. Try focusing on the aggressor nations in those circumstances, sparky. What were they told? What lies are our troops told when we invade Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
@MotherSTUCKER868 They follow orders and that is how they are trained you dumb fuck. Can you imagine the chaos if combat soldiers started asking those questions? Of course you can't because, 1. You are stupid, 2. You have NO military experience, 3. You are a treasonist pig who defends and makes excuses for our enemies... I could go on but I am weary of writing these truths and I don't want to appear as if I am gay bashing.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Sparky? SPARKY? HAHAHAHAHAHAH! How did I miss that one? What an effeminate expression! Now I question your gender. I suspected fagdom but now I am leaning towards transvestite, shemale, or perhaps a complete transexual? You could be female but your attitude does not quite fit. Maybe you are a bi-sexual lipstick lesbian? My "writing" lacks clarity? Perhaps you should have said "Aggressor nations" rather then "ALL WARS" retard.
@guitarheroplayer94 Wanna see a retard? Look in the nearest mirror. You appear to be obsessed with sexuality and gender. I'm betting you have some unresolved issues and that's why you have this need to lash out.
@MotherSTUCKER868 When I look into my mirror I chant "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the laziest, dumbest, faggiest, treasonist one of all?" Suddenly a monkey appears and I have to assume it's you! How do I know? There is an American flag flying at half staff behind it, and the monkey is wearing lipstick and has a tattoo on her/his arm that says "Down with the U.S." and "Wanna play hide the bannana?"
@guitarheroplayer94 You sound like the kind of guy who becomes a hall monitor because he believes in the importance of order. Or one of those kids the cops send into stores to try to buy beer so they can bust some 7-11 clerk.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Tell me madam, who were the "aggressor nations" in WW2? What lies were the Patriots or Brits told during the WFI? Were the Brits told lies when they invaded Zululand in 1879? Were Hannibal's troops told lies when he marched them over the mountains to attack Rome? Tell me sweet cheeks, what lies were CSA forces told during the ACW? What lies were American forces told in Desert Shield? (I was there, 3rd Armored.) WHERE WERE YOU? Prob. painting your toes.
@guitarheroplayer94 Sure they were told they were doing what they were doing for their country, tribe, religion or whatever. You were there? Then you know you were filled full of BS about Saddam's WMDs and maybe even some crap about 9/11. Educate me, "doctor".
@MotherSTUCKER868 We were told to look for the "WMD" as we advanced. I had been ordered to build special security details to focus on any signs of them. What we did find I am not at liberty to say but I will tell you this: more was going on then the public was told. Either way, S.H. had the means and desire to obtain the WMD and now guess what! He can't.
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, I'll say more was going on than the public was told--we were lied to big time. And you're conveniently not allowed to reveal how right Goergie and Dickie were.
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh, Desert Shield. That was before the first abomination, right? I'd assume you were told you were protecting the world's oil supply from Saddam, who was suddenly a madman after years of being a US friend and client and still doing evil shit. You probably weren't told that the US ambassador to Iraq told his government the US would have no problem with him invading Kuwait. Or that the "worst case scenario" was that he'd leave Kuwait and they'd have not pretext for war.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hahahahha.. sure believe that garbage all you want. SO why did Saddam invade with 2,000.... THAT's TWO THOUSAND tanks... if he had nothing to fear? Let me guess, YOU were there in person to witness the U.S. ambassador to Iraq making that B/S statement right? He WAS a madman idiot! He tried to burn every fucking oilwell as he retreated, seriously damaging the eco-system. He wanted to pour oil right into the Gulf. Only a madman would do that on purpose.
@MotherSTUCKER868 WHY DID S.H. invade Kuwait with 2K tanks if he had the "go ahead?" Still waiting for your comment FUCKTARD. Prob. sitting at home banging your tired ol' pussy. Ya, like you are not pussy enough and avoided serving this great nation. Go ahead and bang it girlfriend. Bang it hard and sweet. Think about all those dead fighting men and women who served so you can sit at home and bang your pussy, and complain, AND defend the animals who killed those heroes.
@guitarheroplayer94 Maybe Saddam thought he was going to be the new Israel and do whatever he wanted, including subdue conquered territories with overwhelming force.
I have no idea what your masturbatory fantasies include, but corpses don't figure in mine!
As you know, who's a hero and who's ad animal vary widely depeding on whom you ask.
@guitarheroplayer94 In all cases, soldiers are told that whatever they're doing is for the glory of their country, sometimes for righteousness, self-defense, etc. If you'd like it piece by piece, the Patriots were told they were fighting for freedom (except for the slaves, of course) and the Brits were told they were fighting for king and country. Brits invading Africa were told they were bringing God and civilization, also for king and country.
@MotherSTUCKER868 "ALL CASES?" There you go again with that word! So you have a problem with soldiers fighting in self-defence? So the Polish soldier was lied too as the panzers and Stukas were pounding Poland? Make your point dum-dum.
@guitarheroplayer94 Who said it was necessarily a lie, although I'm willing to bet that like all organizations, the Polish Resistance and what was left of the Polish military didn't trade exclusively in truth. Nationalism had told that Polish soldier (and the German soldiers in the panzers and Stukas) that they were doing what they were doing for their countries and therefore for thier homes and families. Is that too difficult a concept for you to grasp?
@MotherSTUCKER868 I agree... the Polish were defending THEIR homes... the Germans WERE NOT. The German government invaded and raped Poland and it was not for "home and mommy." Why can't you grasp that? The French and British declared war... was that for "home and mommy too?"
@guitarheroplayer94 Ultimately it's always presented as a fight for home and mom, even (especially) to the aggressors. "We HAVE to intervene or they'll come marching down Main St." "We have to keep our country strong so other countries don't dominate it." Etc.
@guitarheroplayer94 I believe the ancient world was much more blatantly coercive, but wasn't Carthage "defending itself" (and its empire) from Rome? Confederates told they were fighting for southern way of life and states rights. You yourself know the Desert Shield troops were told Saddam was going to get all the oil and take over the world. Or perhaps you were told something different? Please share. I don't paint my toes.
@guitarheroplayer94 There are historical records, especially of public propaganda. What troops are told as part of their indoctrination is available from memoirs and other reports. I guess they are occasionally published in "underground newspapers", but I've never seen one.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Tell me Missy, who would you say was the "aggressor nation" during the war to end all wars? Lies? What lies did Caesar or Alexander tell their men? ALL wars you said, now you back track and try to cover up your blunder (as most women do) by pointing the finger at "aggressor nations". Tell me girly girl, females are allowed in the military and you present yourself as "Ms. Know-It-All" with the mighty Master's (probably an MSN?) Why did you not serve? Insert cock or foot!
@guitarheroplayer94 You're the military historian, right? So you have access to their speeches, don't you? Although that's no indication of what they actually said or what their troops really believed. Surely someone with an advanced degree knows that. As for my not a "serving", like Dick Cheney I had other priorities.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Serving is a personal choice but it is of the highest degree of honor to this country. Hate war or like it, you can't discount the blood that was shed to protect this land.
@generaljackdripper1 I have seen all those videos before. SO WHAT. How many Christmas videos are there of the men killed at Pearl Harbor by the sneaky Japs? NONE. Because the poor fuckers where MURDERED on their ships while they were eating breakfast on December 7th. You are probably like Mother defending those bastards? That's treason in my book fucker. I hope you two to walk into a VFW somewhere and spew your bullshit. Those 85 year old vets would have you for dinner.
@MotherSTUCKER868 The blood on the beaches of Normandy (to name ONE place) was shed to protect OUR power structure? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a maroon!
@MotherSTUCKER868 The U.S. gave incredible amounts of material to other nations before the war as loans that most of were never paid back. You still think war is something unavoidable and in your goofy, twisted thinking patterns, think it's all about money and bravado.
@guitarheroplayer94 OK, what do you think it's about??? I think it very much is avoidable. I was under the impression you thought it wasn't. In fact, "go back deep into the morass" and you'll see that you've posted exactly that. Extra credit for using an SAT word like "morass".
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh,uh, which "war to end all wars" are you mouth-shitting about? One comes along every couple years. Or used to. Now they just tell us we're ina peramenent, undending state of war, even though war hasn't been officially declared since 1941. I guess that makes it easier for them.
@MotherSTUCKER868 Let's get back to the "aggressor nations", sparky pants. Hmmmm... Germany did not declare war on Britain and France.... Britain and France ATTACKED Germany starting on Sept. 3rd 1939!! So who were the aggressor nation(s)? Do you really think those "circumstances" apply here? Hmmmm.... The USA did not declare war on Germany after Pearl Harbor.... Germany declared war on the US on Dec 11th. WHO was the aggressor??? Your logic stinks of ass.
@guitarheroplayer94 If Britain and France attacked Germany trhat would make them aggessor nations, wouldn't it? If Germany decelared war on the US, that makes Germany the aggressor? What exactly don't you understand?
@guitarheroplayer94 "All wars....(meaning EVERY WAR) are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother." ALL WARS????????? Pull "your" foot out of your mouth or your boyfriends cock (which ever happens to be in it at this moment) before you admit you went "a bridge too far." Your thinking is two dimensional at best. You do not know how, or have forgotten how to think outside the box. "ALL WARS" Hahahahaah. What a maroon.
@MotherSTUCKER868 How about WW1? That as sparked by an assasination and treaty obligations not imperialism. Try reading sometime... Or good God, use Wikipedia less often.
@guitarheroplayer94 Wrong again: the assassination and subsequent treaty obligations were merely the catalyst for (among other things) long-simmering nationalist competition over colonies and the natural resources to be derived from them, not to mention growing military bloat to protect imperial interests..
He doesn't pay tribute to them, as this disgusting and slanderous description states. He acknowledges that they happened, and that however bad they were, the end result, our nation, was worth their happening. Apparently the douchebag that made this description, and those who agree, are indeed made of sugar candy.
Aelfgeft 1 month ago
This sugar candy commentary makes me sick! Paul Harvey paying tribute to the atomic bomb, as well as genocide! What about the abortion genocide? 40 million+ babies have been aborted in nearly 40 years! We have to stop this kind of "sugar candy" business today!
pookerville 2 months ago
disturbing
Saucy1888Jacky 11 months ago
I dont condone war, but my uncle died in New Guinea, was murdered by the Japanese. My father had a ship shot out from under him in the North Atlantic fighting the same war. Had the war continued he would have gone to the Pacific and may not have returned, in which case I would not be writing this. A LOT of people suffered on both sides. The atomic bomb was terrible but it also saved a lot of lives, those of the people who ended up NOT dying because the war was over.
Spaceflightlover2010 1 year ago
@Spaceflightlover2010 Agreed! Sadly, there is a dipshit on here who feels sympathy for the people who killed your uncle and all the other G.I.'s. See below, his screen names starts with "Mother". A mother fucker is what he is and should he be hung for treason.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I'm such a total wuss I feel sympathy for anyoen who dies needlessly. Sue me.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@Spaceflightlover2010 They could've started not dying several months earlier had one certain party not insisted on unconditional surrender.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Another stupid statement. The Japs were still waging war in China you stupid fuckhead. They proved that they would fight to the end. READ something about the war you fag.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 But they didn;t fight to the end, did they? Sol you're wrong about that, aren't you?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Are you insane? What will the courts say when your neighbor antagonizes you enough into shooting him dead? That's morally the same thing? Hahahaahahahahah! How did America "antagonize" the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor? By cutting off the oil if they did not leave China, a nation they were raping all through the 30's? How did the Poles antagonize Hitler into invading? Or Russia? Hahahahahahahahahaha.... Sooooooo funny and soooooooo dumb.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 What would be the reaction of the United States to having its oil cut off? Bet it wouldn't be nonviolent. The Japanese were not the first to rape China, BTW. European countries (and the US) were in there beforehand. But that rape was OK because we were in on it.
Hitler considered the "Polish Corridor" a slap in the face (just like those Us politicians who didn't want to give back the Panama Canal) and wanted to go after them for "national honor".
You ARE funny and dumb.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 If we were commiting an international crime like invading with the intent of genocide or complete absorbtion of another nation into our own, and the nation(s) who controlled the oil told us to stop or else, I guess the answer would be "Who knows?" Everyone has the right to trade with us or not. BTW, we have plenty of oil here... Drive into Oklahoma or Texas and have a look at all the capped wells.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, but it's gotten harder and harder to "drill, baby, drill" especially after incidents like the BP spill last year. US also wants to be able to deny oil to potential rivals, so even if all US petro needs could be supplied domestically, they'd still want to control the Middle East.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 We have plenty of oil in the South as well as Alaska. Home defence needs a military and the military (currently) needs oil. The first one who runs out LOSES.
guitarheroplayer94 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 What a dilemma, always needing to beat someone else. Must suck 2 b u.
MotherSTUCKER868 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I tried this already. BTW, his REAL screen name is "Upperkkut." Do some research on him and you can see what you are dealing with!
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt So you must admire him, since you want to be his "Kunt".
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
Actually, Winston Churchill made that comment in Canada to the Canadians and the people of The British Commonwealth. NOT the United States.
For someone of Harvey's stature to take this quote and use it to justify slavery, genocide and the atom bomb, it is absolutely sickening.
poughkeepsiejohn1 1 year ago
@poughkeepsiejohn1 so I ask you as I have asked Upperkkut (because he shot his mouth off about us being so "mean and nasty" using a-bombs on the poor helpless, and innocent Japanese) Are you saying we did something wrong in saving American lives by using atomic weapons? Show me why, especially since the firebombings did much more damage and killing. The "Japs" got what they deserved... a good ass kicking. And they certainly would have used them on us if they had them (a-bombs.)
STUCKER868 1 year ago
@STUCKER868 But we didn't save American lives. That's a myth to justify the atrocity, as I've explained to you oh-so-many times.
Also, if you say "they would've used them", you're putting us at the same moral level as them, and surely you don't mean that, do you?
upperkkut 1 year ago
@upperkkut Oh, and I never used the words "mean and nasty".
upperkkut 1 year ago
@upperkkut But we DID save American lives. Your thought pattern is a myth to justify your attempts at making this an atrocity, as I have explained to you "oh-so-many times. American lives were saved because we did not have to storm the mainland beaches. GET IT? Nope... you don't but the VAST majority of historians and veterans do get it. We used the bomb to END the war. Japan and Germany would have used the a-bomb to to MURDER US and conquer us. Big difference.
STUCKER868 1 year ago
@STUCKER868 No killing kids isn't an atrocity. As I've explained before much of the problem was with the demand for unconditional surrender and the position of the Emperor. Could it be US authorities purposely made it "impossible" for the "Japs" to surrender so they'd have a pretext for the non-atrocity? Just to see how it works and show everybody they had it?
"We" did not have to storm the mainland beaches at any rate becaue "we" had the upper hand.
upperkkut 1 year ago
@upperkkut Hehehe... we had the upper hand? There were still 10 million Jap soldiers killing Chinese on the mainland. In early 45, Japan launched it's most successful offensive on the mainland. We may have had the military upperhand but we still had to force THEM to stop shooting US.
RoykeltonO 1 year ago
@RoykeltonO Perhaps if we'd not been bombing their country they wouldn't have had such burning desire to shoot us. Or we could've negotiated for peace. Yeah, I know, that's for pussies.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 We did "negotiate" for peace.... we told them "Unconditional surrender..." they refused for several years.
RoykeltonO 1 year ago
@RoykeltonO Now I know it's a big word--4 very intimidating syllables, but if you'll look it up (you know how to do that, right?) you'll see that's not what it means.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Could not agree more! I can't believe we even declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor! What a waste of resources! And all the killing of those innocent Japanese! Terrible, just terrible! You see, as a gay man, I am very sensitive to any kind of personal attacks (war or peacetime!)
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt It would be more authentic with 2 "k"s. Actually. lots of closeted gay men are very aggressive and macho, to hide it. Again, I think you must want STUCKER868. He's very jingoistic and has an obsession with homosexuality, probably in response to his own suppressed gay desires.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Jingoistic? Are you sure? You must admire STUCKER868 if you decided to "hi-jack" part of his screen name in honor of him! Perhaps you ARE gay and because of your inner effeminate attraction to macho type men, you chose his name for yours? How SWEET!
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt STUCKER868 suffers from self-esteem issue, that's why he' s so mindlessly nationalistic. So I thought he'd like a little egogasm by seeing his name appropriated. I don't think he's "macho" in any real sense (though he seems to like to put forward that image--again, part of his basic insecurity) because he's not man enough to actually think for himself.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 An "egogasm?" Wow, you seem to be somewhat sexually connected with this fellow. Perhaps you are his jaded lover and out of revenge you feel a need to broadcast your loathing of him? I guess an egogasm could be the end result of a mind fuck? If you good enough and I doubt you are.
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt I've never had the dubious pleasure of meeting him.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Three K's would be even appropriate.
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt Are you a racist?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 A rasist? You mean to I hate Niggers, Spicks, Japs, Wops, Jews, Panheads, Towel heads, Chinks, "Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, Canuks, Crackers, etc.... No! Not at all, why do you ask? Are you? Trying to form a club or something?
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt You don't have to hate anyone. You said "3 Ks": KKK. so I just wondered.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@STUCKER868 Are you saying "we" didn't murder and conquer Japan and Germany? 'Splain me the difference, Lucy.
And if my view is so marginalized, why bother with it? In reality, it isn't a fringe interpretation, epecially outside the boundaries of the US.
And since when does the opinion of veterans, who were sold a bill of goods about the bomb saving them, count? They're not professionals or scholars or whatever other titles you always throw around, just people who were led to believe so.
upperkkut 1 year ago
@upperkkut WTF? We were at war dipshit! They started it, we ended it and in the course of all wars, non-combatants get killed. My grandfather was pacific war vet... and he told me many times he thought he would be killed if they landed in Japan proper. The bomb did save many lives... WTF? We supposed to just stop shooting and wait for Japan to surrender? And what happens when Stalin and company come rolling into China etc.... taking all of it? You are a dumbfuck.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Your granddad thinking something don't make it so.
Bombs don't save lives; they destroy them. Yes, we coiuld've easily had a little Cold War with Japan--just like the one they were planning with the USSR. Stalin and company were our allies, weren't they?
But thanks for admitting what most reputable historians do: that the atomic bombings of Japan were more about frustrating/intimidating the Soviets than about "saving lives".
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 But I have to assume you were not there and he lived it. To me, that makes your views pretty weak. It's like learning the martial arts from a book vs. taking classes from a master. So what, you read a few books on history and the subject (which influences your views...) and you drew an opinion from it. Congrats. However, I will take the word of a man who lived the experience as well as those of his fellow soldiers who shared the same feelings.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Hahahaha!
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Really shitty reasoning. I wasn't around to live the witch hysteria of the middle ages, so I guess the people who burned all those women have more authority on the subject than I do. Interesting point. I don't know which man you're referring to who "lived the experience" but if he was just someone who followed orders, he probably didn't know much. And as far as living the experience, I'd say the people the bomb was dropped on lived it just a bit more fully, doncha think?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Yes you fucktard, the people who burned all those women have MORE authority on the subject than you do. You were not there to live it and there is no way you or I can completely understand the mind set of the time. It was my grandfather who "lived it" so what qualifies your sorry ass to know more than the people who lived the experiences? Care to to explain that Jehovah? You must be God if you know ALL about these things and everyone else who lived then are idiots.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 OK, so now we've established we're not going to make any judgements about any historical events because we weren't there. Which includes Japanese atrocities that people like you are always foaming about. Thanks for clearing that up.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Except the mountains of evidence (including the dead bodies and official Japanese military reports that document each crime.) You were certainly not there, however my grandfather and both of his brothers WERE there. One was a Marine, one was a tincan skipper and the other was codebreaking. Where were you? Probably not even a thought in your daddy's penis yet and that's probably because your daddy was what??? 10 years old?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, maybe those Japanese atrocities were "necessary" in the same way the bomb was. You're taking the position that we can't make judgements about historical events if we weren't there, so that goes for all of them, not just the ones you want to defend.
For first-hand accounts, try Wilfred Burchett and George Weller.
Once again, did your relatives have access to decision-making at the highest levels?
Dad would've been 12 in 1945.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 I am basing my judgements on first hand accounts and also on "accepted" history. Remember what Napoleon (I) said about history. However, the accepted history is the historical theory that is accepted by professionals. How do we REALLY KNOW there was George Washington? There are no photographs of him, recorded audio etc... Only eyewitness accounts and a couple paintings... yet we accept he was real, correct? Your view and history of WWII is tainted and not accepted.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh, but it is and by more people than you might think, especially if your only reference is Uncle Elmo and the guys at the VFW Hall. Your view is just ever so slightly tainted, too.
Who decides what history is "accepted". You'd have made a great Soviet comrade, with your slavish devotion to party reality.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Trained professionals decide what is accepted history... the history that is in our history books. You are smarter than them.... why don't you write the history books and paint the world in big rainbow colors... you know... something "effeminate" to match your view of the world. Make sure you note in your history book how you the author, show sympathy for the enemy of our flag. That's treason asshole and maybe you should be hung for it?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 The same trained professionals who worked for the Smithsonian and were censored in 1995? To which history books do you refer? The official stuff taught in high school?
Since when is it treason to think for yourself? To quote Patrick Henry at the Virginia House of Burgesses, "If this be treason, make the most of it."
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Perhaps not treason in the exact definition of the word but still defending the enemies who drew blood against us first and killed our fighting men. Sad. If you are an Amercian, you are sad.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I'm not defending anyone. But you're the one who's always going on about "it's war and people get killed; tough shit". So just have some integrity and apply that attitude to your "fighting men" as well. all I've ever said is be consistent: if it's OK to mass murder Japanese, Iraqis, etc, it's OK to mass murder Americans.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 You're an idiot and I should have known better. Voltaire said it best: "When one has the honor of being received into a respectable society of men of letters, the address one delivers must not be against men of letters: that would be an insult to the society and the public. When one is admitted into a respectable group, one must conceal under the veil of modesty that insolent pride one associates with idiots and people devoid of all talent." With that said, I have failed.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, if you ever are in a respectable society of men of letters, I recommend you don't go into your Michael Savage wannabe routine.
You have indeed failed--over and over and over again. But keep trying.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 I refer to the accredited history that is accepted by professionals. In other words, if you do not have credentials, your opinion and views do not matter to such people. Do you really think a PhD will even consider what YOU might think. Hmmm... I have one. And unless you have at least a Masters, no one would seriously consider your opinions.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Give it up dude. He's just playing a game with you.
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt And winning!
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 So you're such a patriotic American that you believe in rank and office as the be-all and end-all. funny, because I've read plenty of stuff by PhD's and known quite a few personally, and they express themselves in less crudea nd simplistice ways than you do. What's your degree in, "Doctor"?
And I do have a Masters degree.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hahaha. YouTube was not designed as an express all forum. There IS a limit to the written word. I can back up my view with facts though, can you? You can dig out some "facts" from some far left conspiracy book(s) but your views languish with the vast minority. Sorry. My Ph.D. is in Philosophy. A Masters? Wha,t were too lazy to go further? What's your field of study (probably music!) I hope your degree is serving you well but I wager you have done nothing with it.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Yep, the "vast" minority. I've done plenty with my degree, thanks. For a philosopher, you seem kind of stupid and unsophisticated.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 " Yep, the "vast" minority." You stupid fucker, can't you see I am making fun of you? I was being facetious when I said "Vast minority" because like most retarded liberals, you think the the opinion of the minority body is equal with that of the majority. Your personal, effeminate opinions/comments ARE as far left as you can go... You are a left wing extremist who has ZERO military experience yet you try to sound off like you know what you are talking about.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 It's already been established that you also lack military experience, General Armchair, so the point is moot. I guess you're a big believer in being in the majority, right? And you tailor your own opinions to being so, for to be otherewise would be "effeminate". You seem to enjoy using that word and consider it the ultimate insult. Are you one of those men who dislikes women and considers them inferior? After all, racist, homophobic, sexist--they all kind of go together.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 I LACK military experience? Just eight years of my life in the army, leaving the service a Major. If I lack service experience, where does this leave you girlfriend? I was trained by a professional army to fight a war, something you know nothing about. I use the word "effeminate" because it suits how you behave... like a pussy or a girl. Women and gays have NO place on the field of battle. It hurts morale and I have seen it first hand. Nothing against them of course.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Wow, so you're a PhD in philosophy and a war veteran. Reminds me of my youth: when I was 6 or 7 or so, I used to be a cowboy in the morning, an astronaut in the afternoon and a fireman after supper. You don't express yourself like a military type, either.
Did you know that when there actuallyt is battle, they stop drumming people out for being gay? They don't really care who their cannon fodder sleeps with.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 That's right Ms. Master's degree. "Only a PhD and a war vet." You think that's impossible? I'm over 50 some of my education completed before and during my service. The rest came later. How do you know what happens when there is actually a battle when you have never served? And you are wrong about all of it because a known gay presence in camp causes morale issues. Maybe we should have the gay men shower with the straight women? Your female, what would you prefer?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Not impossible, but you don't sound like either a PhD or anyone with a military career.
Guess you never heard of Alexander the Great, Mr. Military Historian. BTW, isn't a major component of military training getting them to bond and be willing to die for one another (not a country or anything like that...)
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 You watch too much TV, Ms. Master's degree (or spend too much time on Wikipedia.) Since you have NO military training, you are not qualified to judge those who do, nor can you judge the research or writing of any historian as such judgement is merely an amateur opinion. Sorry, but you would be laughed out of any lecture hall.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 "I don't "Sound" like either a" (Vulgar or urban writing does not become an intellect such yourself, Missy.) Perhaps it's the "inflection" in my typing that make me sound "un-military" and "un-PhD." How can one judge someone's character or academic level by the typed or written word on a forum such as this? Would you like me to fax you my credentials? Will my college transcript suffice? A photocopy of my honorable discharge or do you need the real deal?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, sure send me all the appropriate stuff..
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 You "sound" like a dipshit! I can hear you clear over here!
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 What about Alexander the Great?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 He was gay. Didn't a mighty military historian like yourself know that?
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Oh for God's sake you are buffoon! There is NO evidence that proves he was a fag. Read what Dr. Craig Johnson has to say about it... In fact, his article is on the web somewhere. Google it. Besides that, I don't give a fuck if he was gay. He was not in MY army and I don't have to worry about him checking out my ass when I am hitting the spray. Got that you effeminate, anti war, no service "Ms. Master degree."
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Good to know there are no "fags" in the military now!
generaljackdripper1 11 months ago
@generaljackdripper1 Fags? They are all fags.... just not out of the closet. Sunny and warm here in S.D. Cali. Soooooooo much better than Boston.
UpperKunt 11 months ago
Respond to this video... I merely state the fact (which anyone in the military is aware of) that when the shooting starts, they hold onto every warm body they can, that's why some are doing 2 and 3 tours that they didn't plan on doing.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 In other words Madam, since you personally know NOTHING of war and the experience of it, your words and opinions are empty, and a meaningless waste of time and space. You spew forth B/S about immorality of war, yet you have not served. I have never been president either and although I can hate Obama, I am not quailfied to stand on a soap box and bitch about how bad of a job he is doing because I have ZERO experience in politics on his level. Kind of like you! Comprendo?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Then since you also have no experience of war, so you can STFU, too.
Why do you hate Obama--other than the fact that he's black, of course. He's every inch the warmonger people like you look up to. Maybe it's because he pretends not to be a warmonger. Unlike his predecessor, he doesn't prance around in a military jumpsuit and say "Bring'em on" and shit like that. Very disappoinitng.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 So those Iraqi's that were shooting at my battalion were shooting blanks? I have seen dead and dying including a close friend who died in action in Shield. So you STFU girly man. I don't like Obama because he talks and walks in circles. Skin color has nothing to do with it.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Who said anything about blanks? Methinks if you really had seen death up close you wouldn't be such a cavalier douchebag about it. Again, How is Obama different from any other politician. And we know you're a racist, so skin color has a lot to do with it.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you? I don't give a fuck what you think. You probably another lazy civ. who sat back on his/her fat ass while I and the rest of the army was fighting for your freedom. When the world is spinning without you on it "twill be a happy day for the rest of us."
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 The army doens't fight for my freedom, or yours. They fight for the Empire and those who control it.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 interesting name. do i know you mishter lusk?
Saucy1888Jacky 1 year ago
@Saucy1888Jacky Cute, but that's not where the name is from. Give up?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@Saucy1888Jacky Hint: I said your merit badge would be in AMERICAN culture. JTR was British.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@Saucy1888Jacky Hint: I said your merit badge would be in AMERICAN culture, not British.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@Saucy1888Jacky you do, but you still don't get the reference, do you?
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Well, you should at least know you weren't fighting for my freedom; that's a lie they tell people to get them to sign on. You were fighting for the oil companies and other components of the US empire.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 What you don't understand is that our "empire" runs on oil. Also, we fought for the freedom of our Allies. Kuwait was raped and pillaged by S.H. I am willing to bet that if terrorists suddenly blew up your favorite mall (that your fat body likes to visit,) you will hide behind the U.S. troops who come to your rescue( like the pussy you are). Maybe then you will appreciate the U.S. Army?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Maybe April Glaspie should've told Saddam an invasion of Kuwait would be a problem, instead of saying the US doesn't get involved in inter-Arab conflicts.
I never visit a mall if I can help it.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 More proof that you're a dumb ass. We had a treaty with Kuwait and as an ally we had an obligation to go in... Saddam knew that and was warned BEFORE he invaded.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Really? OK, perhaps you'd be good enough to tell me where I can find a record of this pre-invasion warning.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Jesus H. Christ you are a stupid fucker. Don't you read anything? Or do you just watch docu-dramas and sit on your front porch and shoot your B.B. gun at the neighbor's cat? Tariq Aziz warned him... His own people warned him. There are also unreleased private transcripts between S.H. and A.G.... S.H. did not read between the lines and misunderstood the dumb bitch.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 It takes one to know one, doesn't it? No front porch, no BB gun, neighbors don't have a cat. Can't remember last time I saw a "docu-drama"--whatever that is. But I do read quite a bit.
Unreleased private transcripts, huh? And just how do you have knowlege of them????? Wait, let me guess: you're some real big shot who's seen them, right?
generaljackdripper1 11 months ago
@generaljackdripper1 You spew b/s and when I call you on it you skip on to something else. Typical pussy. What a fag... Got that "Sparky"?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 HEHEHEH Good one! Why Sparky?
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@UpperKunt "SParky" because he reminds me of someone who never outgrew being a Boy Scout. Golly Gee Whiz.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Both of you are idiots.
guitarheroplayer94 11 months ago
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@guitarheroplayer94 I do believe the pot is calling the kettle black.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Hey Fuckhead. "Merry Christmas" ;)
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Same to you.!
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 FYI, it's not that the people who live historical events are idiots, so much as they don't see the whole picture of what's going on and only act on their limited set of circumstances. I very much doubt your grandfather was part of the high command who made the decisions.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 But they lived in part of the picture and understood the mind-set of the era... something that you or I can not understand. It was a different time and I have read my grandfather's papers, talked to him and his brothers when they were alive and it was a different time. We knew little or nothing about the Yamato class battleships untill after the war. How could we know anything as secret as the Japanese nuclear program? The program was young but in progress.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 So was ours. Your implication is that if the "Japs" had had the bomb and had used it "to end he war and save lives" , that would've been OK, too.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "japs" started the shooting dumbfuck. What don't understand about that retard? The "japs" started the war of blood because they were too stupid to handle the war of words. The post war study of "jap" military papers prove they were out to expand their little nip empire all over the world and we were in the way. Keep defending the enemies who killed the G.I.'s who founght for the flag so your sorry ass could be born NOT under a Swastika or Rising Sun emblem.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, someone else always starts it and they always adopt tactics that we never would in a million years. I assume the "enemies who killed the G.I.'s (sic) who fought for the flag(etc)..." were doing so for their "flag"--and how stupid does one have to be to fight for a piece of cloth? I was always told they were fighting for democracy...
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "japs" were not doing it for their flag dipshit. You know nothing about what they were fighting for. The government was evil.... do you think Tojo was fighting for the honor of the Japanese flag?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Nope, just like US leaders are really fighting for economic dominance. But the little guys always believe the crap about fighting for country.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The "piece of cloth" is a symbol and represents what they are fighting for. Historians don't "assume" anything unless they have a mass of original source information to back up a theory. In your case, your assumption that the "japs" (sic) fought for their flag is lame. Read "Knights of Bushido: A Short History of Japanese War Crimes." Maybe you will learn something. Seriously, when you were little, and your dad was having sex, did he make you swallow?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Hahahahahahah! Toooooooo funny.
UpperKunt 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Ok, so, briefly, what exactly were the Imperial Japanese forces fighting for? Maybe a piece of cloth, maybe a man, but one that represented their homes and families to them. And that's how rulers have suckered people from time immemorial--by conning them into thinking they were fighting for their homes and families. Are your original sources on this subject Japanese? They would best be able to express why in their minds they were doing what they were doing.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The typical Japanese soldier was a mindless robot who obeyed orders and did not question them. Do you understand the Asian mind at all? The average Japanese soldier did not care why he was doing what he was doing and out of respect, he followed orders. (Unlike the IJN, which embodied some unit honor because of Tojo and the ships they sailed). The Japanese soldier would have rather died then be dishonored by surrender. How many European soldiers followed that sentiment?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 OOOh, a little bit racist, are we? Well, color me surprised.
Sorry, but if you knew anything about Japanese history, you'd know there were plenty of peasant uprisings in the feudal period and not a few labor strikes early in the 20th century. All wars are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hmmm... (pondering how stupid you are) To paraphrase you "All wars....(meaning EVERY WAR) are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother." So the 20 million Russians who were killed by invading Axis forces were "duped"? 25 million dead Chinese "duped"? The Poles were "duped"? The French and British were "duped"? And that's only PART of WW2.The term "duped" reminds me of you. Actually the spelling is all wrong... it should be "DOPED."
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 The depth of your stupidity is imponderable. Try focusing on the aggressor nations in those circumstances, sparky. What were they told? What lies are our troops told when we invade Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 They follow orders and that is how they are trained you dumb fuck. Can you imagine the chaos if combat soldiers started asking those questions? Of course you can't because, 1. You are stupid, 2. You have NO military experience, 3. You are a treasonist pig who defends and makes excuses for our enemies... I could go on but I am weary of writing these truths and I don't want to appear as if I am gay bashing.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Sparky? SPARKY? HAHAHAHAHAHAH! How did I miss that one? What an effeminate expression! Now I question your gender. I suspected fagdom but now I am leaning towards transvestite, shemale, or perhaps a complete transexual? You could be female but your attitude does not quite fit. Maybe you are a bi-sexual lipstick lesbian? My "writing" lacks clarity? Perhaps you should have said "Aggressor nations" rather then "ALL WARS" retard.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Wanna see a retard? Look in the nearest mirror. You appear to be obsessed with sexuality and gender. I'm betting you have some unresolved issues and that's why you have this need to lash out.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 When I look into my mirror I chant "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the laziest, dumbest, faggiest, treasonist one of all?" Suddenly a monkey appears and I have to assume it's you! How do I know? There is an American flag flying at half staff behind it, and the monkey is wearing lipstick and has a tattoo on her/his arm that says "Down with the U.S." and "Wanna play hide the bannana?"
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 You sound like the kind of guy who becomes a hall monitor because he believes in the importance of order. Or one of those kids the cops send into stores to try to buy beer so they can bust some 7-11 clerk.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Tell me madam, who were the "aggressor nations" in WW2? What lies were the Patriots or Brits told during the WFI? Were the Brits told lies when they invaded Zululand in 1879? Were Hannibal's troops told lies when he marched them over the mountains to attack Rome? Tell me sweet cheeks, what lies were CSA forces told during the ACW? What lies were American forces told in Desert Shield? (I was there, 3rd Armored.) WHERE WERE YOU? Prob. painting your toes.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Sure they were told they were doing what they were doing for their country, tribe, religion or whatever. You were there? Then you know you were filled full of BS about Saddam's WMDs and maybe even some crap about 9/11. Educate me, "doctor".
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 We were told to look for the "WMD" as we advanced. I had been ordered to build special security details to focus on any signs of them. What we did find I am not at liberty to say but I will tell you this: more was going on then the public was told. Either way, S.H. had the means and desire to obtain the WMD and now guess what! He can't.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Yeah, I'll say more was going on than the public was told--we were lied to big time. And you're conveniently not allowed to reveal how right Goergie and Dickie were.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you? Another know it all? Another female, shemale, fag, drug user who never served and sits back and complains?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I "serve" all the time; i just don't kill anybody and try not to help those who do.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 The only one you serve is yourself.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh, Desert Shield. That was before the first abomination, right? I'd assume you were told you were protecting the world's oil supply from Saddam, who was suddenly a madman after years of being a US friend and client and still doing evil shit. You probably weren't told that the US ambassador to Iraq told his government the US would have no problem with him invading Kuwait. Or that the "worst case scenario" was that he'd leave Kuwait and they'd have not pretext for war.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Hahahahha.. sure believe that garbage all you want. SO why did Saddam invade with 2,000.... THAT's TWO THOUSAND tanks... if he had nothing to fear? Let me guess, YOU were there in person to witness the U.S. ambassador to Iraq making that B/S statement right? He WAS a madman idiot! He tried to burn every fucking oilwell as he retreated, seriously damaging the eco-system. He wanted to pour oil right into the Gulf. Only a madman would do that on purpose.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 It's a matter of record.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I'm your worst nightmare!!!!
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
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guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 WHY DID S.H. invade Kuwait with 2K tanks if he had the "go ahead?" Still waiting for your comment FUCKTARD. Prob. sitting at home banging your tired ol' pussy. Ya, like you are not pussy enough and avoided serving this great nation. Go ahead and bang it girlfriend. Bang it hard and sweet. Think about all those dead fighting men and women who served so you can sit at home and bang your pussy, and complain, AND defend the animals who killed those heroes.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Maybe Saddam thought he was going to be the new Israel and do whatever he wanted, including subdue conquered territories with overwhelming force.
I have no idea what your masturbatory fantasies include, but corpses don't figure in mine!
As you know, who's a hero and who's ad animal vary widely depeding on whom you ask.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 In all cases, soldiers are told that whatever they're doing is for the glory of their country, sometimes for righteousness, self-defense, etc. If you'd like it piece by piece, the Patriots were told they were fighting for freedom (except for the slaves, of course) and the Brits were told they were fighting for king and country. Brits invading Africa were told they were bringing God and civilization, also for king and country.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 "ALL CASES?" There you go again with that word! So you have a problem with soldiers fighting in self-defence? So the Polish soldier was lied too as the panzers and Stukas were pounding Poland? Make your point dum-dum.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Who said it was necessarily a lie, although I'm willing to bet that like all organizations, the Polish Resistance and what was left of the Polish military didn't trade exclusively in truth. Nationalism had told that Polish soldier (and the German soldiers in the panzers and Stukas) that they were doing what they were doing for their countries and therefore for thier homes and families. Is that too difficult a concept for you to grasp?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 I agree... the Polish were defending THEIR homes... the Germans WERE NOT. The German government invaded and raped Poland and it was not for "home and mommy." Why can't you grasp that? The French and British declared war... was that for "home and mommy too?"
guitarheroplayer94 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Ultimately it's always presented as a fight for home and mom, even (especially) to the aggressors. "We HAVE to intervene or they'll come marching down Main St." "We have to keep our country strong so other countries don't dominate it." Etc.
MotherSTUCKER868 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I believe the ancient world was much more blatantly coercive, but wasn't Carthage "defending itself" (and its empire) from Rome? Confederates told they were fighting for southern way of life and states rights. You yourself know the Desert Shield troops were told Saddam was going to get all the oil and take over the world. Or perhaps you were told something different? Please share. I don't paint my toes.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Sources? Please list them. How do you know what the troops were told? What underdground newspaper do you get your info from?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 There are historical records, especially of public propaganda. What troops are told as part of their indoctrination is available from memoirs and other reports. I guess they are occasionally published in "underground newspapers", but I've never seen one.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Tell me Missy, who would you say was the "aggressor nation" during the war to end all wars? Lies? What lies did Caesar or Alexander tell their men? ALL wars you said, now you back track and try to cover up your blunder (as most women do) by pointing the finger at "aggressor nations". Tell me girly girl, females are allowed in the military and you present yourself as "Ms. Know-It-All" with the mighty Master's (probably an MSN?) Why did you not serve? Insert cock or foot!
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 You're the military historian, right? So you have access to their speeches, don't you? Although that's no indication of what they actually said or what their troops really believed. Surely someone with an advanced degree knows that. As for my not a "serving", like Dick Cheney I had other priorities.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Serving is a personal choice but it is of the highest degree of honor to this country. Hate war or like it, you can't discount the blood that was shed to protect this land.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Not the land; the power structure that controls it.
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
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@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you? Another lazy piece of shit who pretends to know something and complains about her government?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 I have seen all those videos before. SO WHAT. How many Christmas videos are there of the men killed at Pearl Harbor by the sneaky Japs? NONE. Because the poor fuckers where MURDERED on their ships while they were eating breakfast on December 7th. You are probably like Mother defending those bastards? That's treason in my book fucker. I hope you two to walk into a VFW somewhere and spew your bullshit. Those 85 year old vets would have you for dinner.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 85-year-old cannibals? Now who's demonizing our brave heroes?
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 The land was always here and doesn't need protection. the blood in question was shed to protect the economic power structure.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The blood on the beaches of Normandy (to name ONE place) was shed to protect OUR power structure? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a maroon!
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Of course it was. You don't think the US was involved in WWII just because it's so nice and kind and generous, do you?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 The U.S. gave incredible amounts of material to other nations before the war as loans that most of were never paid back. You still think war is something unavoidable and in your goofy, twisted thinking patterns, think it's all about money and bravado.
guitarheroplayer94 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 OK, what do you think it's about??? I think it very much is avoidable. I was under the impression you thought it wasn't. In fact, "go back deep into the morass" and you'll see that you've posted exactly that. Extra credit for using an SAT word like "morass".
MotherSTUCKER868 11 months ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Oh,uh, which "war to end all wars" are you mouth-shitting about? One comes along every couple years. Or used to. Now they just tell us we're ina peramenent, undending state of war, even though war hasn't been officially declared since 1941. I guess that makes it easier for them.
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Uh.... Kidding right? WW1 was considered "The war to end all wars."
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 And see what a good job it did?
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@generaljackdripper1 Who the fuck are you? Mother's boyfriend?
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 I don't believe I've ever made the acquaintance of your mother. Why do you ask? Is she looking for some action?
generaljackdripper1 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 Let's get back to the "aggressor nations", sparky pants. Hmmmm... Germany did not declare war on Britain and France.... Britain and France ATTACKED Germany starting on Sept. 3rd 1939!! So who were the aggressor nation(s)? Do you really think those "circumstances" apply here? Hmmmm.... The USA did not declare war on Germany after Pearl Harbor.... Germany declared war on the US on Dec 11th. WHO was the aggressor??? Your logic stinks of ass.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 If Britain and France attacked Germany trhat would make them aggessor nations, wouldn't it? If Germany decelared war on the US, that makes Germany the aggressor? What exactly don't you understand?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 "All wars....(meaning EVERY WAR) are fought by people duped into thinking they're fighting for home and mother." ALL WARS????????? Pull "your" foot out of your mouth or your boyfriends cock (which ever happens to be in it at this moment) before you admit you went "a bridge too far." Your thinking is two dimensional at best. You do not know how, or have forgotten how to think outside the box. "ALL WARS" Hahahahaah. What a maroon.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Why don't you name some wars that were not fought for reasons that eventually lead back to home and mommy?
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 How about WW1? That as sparked by an assasination and treaty obligations not imperialism. Try reading sometime... Or good God, use Wikipedia less often.
guitarheroplayer94 1 year ago
@guitarheroplayer94 Wrong again: the assassination and subsequent treaty obligations were merely the catalyst for (among other things) long-simmering nationalist competition over colonies and the natural resources to be derived from them, not to mention growing military bloat to protect imperial interests..
MotherSTUCKER868 1 year ago
@MotherSTUCKER868 More Bull. Where did you dig that crap up? The last thing Germany wanted was war... as well as the French.
guitarheroplayer94 11 months ago