Aside from the physical atrocities, in my opinion their ability to lie and deceive entire populations is the most indicative of their evil.
The thing about lies is that they perpetuate into future generations, spreading ignorance and disorder. White lies, big lies, outright lies, things they purposely don't disclose are lies as well.
@cromarty55 Long before Stalin and long after, communism was killing people where ever it touched. Even in our current era it still does. Communism is fataly flawed from its conception in every way. No matter how many times or who tries it next, the outcome will always be the same.
For Stalin, "socializing" and "collectivizing" the means of production meant that 10 per cent of the USSR lived off of the backs of the poor, rural "proletariat".
um i hate to be the bearer of bad news but the soviet union wasnt communist theres never been a country.the soviet union was more fascist(do research on what this is before saying anything).Also what about the crimes of capitalism like the ones today in mexico and colombia dont the victims there and other countrys deserve to at least have the masses around the world know what the system(capitalism) that killed them is really like
@cooks1234 The Soviet Union was communism in practice, as opposed to in theory. Unfortunately, we live in practice, not theory, and the theory of communism results in tyranny, as we witnessed everywhere communism was practiced.
Fascist governments do not own the means of production, and so the Soviet Union was not fascist.
Do your own homework, you pretentious, under-educated little snot.
@davidrodgersNJ communism is stateless the soviet union had a central state it had classes.one of fascism core ideas is central state.true we live in practice thats why usa is mixed economy not capitalist.thats why capitalism fails and businesses not just corporations but also gangs,mafia,cartels like in mexico and latin america control nearly everything.seriously i can tell your one of those glenn beck fox news media propaganda brainwashed idiots.learn/understand both sides of history dumbass.
@cooks1234 Actually, communism is supposed to lead to the "withering away of the state" after the "dictatorship of the proletariat." The Soviets had their "dictatorship of the proletariat," but the state didn't whither away, as Marxism predicted. Instead, the state became a devouring monster, as John Locke, David Hume et al would have predicted.
Latin America may be "capitalist," by your definition, but free markets there are a small minority. Read Hernando de Soto.
actually no its not by my definition its capitalist definitions.cause thats where i got it from.privatization(property,people,security,means of production,decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments,etc).freedom(not liberty).profit motive,even the doing things by choice exists there.free markets pretty much exist especially since many states are business controlled.de soto yeah a rich dude who worked with fujimori uh
@davidrodgersNJ let me put it this way if i had to believe between what a rich economist who grew up most his life in europe says and actually being there.which i was.i go with being there.now yeah there are recently few that are closer to what would be called socialism(even though it requires workers control)but i notice they are doing better than more capitalist ones.ex venezuela to guatemala
Because they are already reported in various ways. Meanwhile, for some reason people get angry when speaking about similar crimes made by the "great and mighty" Soviet Union / current Russia...
Ya I know they have committed horrible crimes and killed millions but its just that most people on here denounce those ,etc... And then say the US is such a great country that loves freedom and fights on everyone's behalf all around the world, which of course is bullshit.
"US is such a great country that loves freedom and fights on everyone's behalf"
That's what the Soviet Union blasted too :P... Naja, anyway, you're right. Every country should mind their own businesses first and THEN start to criticize / try to change others...
" know they have committed horrible crimes and killed millions"
Hey did you know that the Great Leap Forward resulted in the deaths of 30-50 million Chinese people? Or the Great Purges by Stalin?
Yes? Oh but of course you don't give a shit do you the only time give a shit about civil liberties is when it concerns US "atrocities" in other countries. But as soon as it comes to countries that routinely flout human rights, you shut your fucking mouth.
The TASS paper informed that 4th of May 1945 the russians had 3.180.000 german prisoners. Maybe the numbers were much higher, but we will never know for sure. Molotov said in the conferanse of Foreign Affairs Ministers in Moscow in 1947 had released 1.003974 german pow between may 1945 and march 1947. He claimed it were only 890532 pows in Russia.
And the people running American politics today are closet communist that think they can bring about a kinder gentler but just as communist society right here in America. Obama, Pelosi, reid,hillary, Edwards, are all closet communists.
You really believe what you are saying? Just amazing :D
Seriously, what was proven? All there was proven, that your implications were ilogical. Being a folower to regime that turns everyones to slaves, yeah sure.
Don't worry comrade, no crimes of communism will be forgotten. And we do not have Rudolf Dieses here... I am sorry, I ment Dzierzynskys, and thanks God for that!
Shame? We are proud of being FREE! We are proud that we are not in Warsaw pact. And believe me, many people were happy when Stalin died. Of course, you don't get it, so many manifestations, so many people in those propaganda movies.
And I am happy that a communist like you says "SHAME ON YOU!". Really. I would be as much happy as if TrueFascist said to me "SHAME ON YOU!". Really.
You can have your "manager" Stalin, as is written in your history books. Stay in your country, make communism there
You really answered all my points with those replies... I couldn't have done better. One just needs to read my points and then to read your replies.
You have just proved all what I was saying!! Amazing!
I haven't seen this since I encountered a uninformed student on Youtube, who in attacking communism actually answered all his own questions and became a communist himself... He was intelligent, but uninformed...
Unfortunatelly, they weren't sent to Warsaw, instead, they were sent to Market Garden.
Equality? Yeah, equality achieved by extermination of intelligence. Thank you very much. I would rather be a capitalist pig, earning good money for my hard work. I when I have enough, I will start teaching kids Electronic in school for free. And I need no totalitarian regime to tell me what to do.
Right now, we are fighting for peace, and that no communists or fascist get the power to rule.
Buahaha, yeah, indiscrimate Armia Krajowa. When Soviets robbed villagers from food and Army Krajowa responded, we were so Nazi to you. You are forgetting, that you two were invaders, so don't be surprised we fought you. Even after we were supposed to be "friends", you had your crimes. Such as not allowing allies to land their planes on your airfields during the Warsaw Uprising. And we didn't need British paratroopers, we had our own units that were trained for the Uprising.
The problem is we are not rewriting history, we remember it as it was.
The problem is, what you are saying is completelly illogical. Suddenly, you are saying that you wanted to fight the Nazis. Then what about the extermination of locals, they were Nazis too?
Really, I don't feel bad comparing communism to fasicm. Even so, fasicm didn't kill as many people as communism.
I base my facts on books wroten by historians or people that lived those days. Or politicians.
The United States has massacred the people of the Philippines, exploited the peoples of Latin America through the Monroe Doctrine, suppressed any and all leftist governments as if their version of democracy and capitalism was the only one that mattered. They have nuked over 100,000 people into sweet oblivion, invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Grenada and Vietnam, Nicaragua and Guatemala in 1954, Chile in 1973 and Iran, trained radical Islamists against the Soviets, acquired Guam and Puerto Rico...
@Frogstomp121 The USSR subjected the whole people of Eastern Europe to ruthless authoritarianism reminscent of medival slavery that resulted in the economic catastrophe from which that region has yet to recover. Communism has murdered over 100 million people, is responsible for the murderous regimes and sorry states of Castro and Kim Jong Il and led to the assassination of any hopes of democracy, capitalism and right-wing rights-respecting governments in Latin America and Asia.
When did I shut my mouth? I was just pointing out what idiots like you say and the what the idiot who made the video says. People constantly point to what the Communists did and say it was bad (and yes it was) and say that since they killed more well we should focus on them... And then talk like hypocrites about the US.
People constantly point to what the USA did and say it was bad (and yes it was) and say that since they killed more well we should focus on them... And then talk like hypocrites about Communism.
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
@xdeliriumx1 "well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries."
Oh God will you please fuck off with the whole anti-liberal diatribe if we had people like you running the United Kingdom in the 1980s, our economy would have went to shit (unemployment would have been in the high 30s) were it not for Margaret Thatcher.
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
@Rocketeer1001 And on top of it ur a xenophobic racists piece of shit, well crawl back into your fucking hole and give us a break you ignorant idiot.
'Crusade against Islam', hey man all organized religion should be boycotted as far as im concerned, none is better than another, its all the same to me.
But I dont bother, I just ignore it, maybe you should try that.
@xdeliriumx1 How am i a xenophobe you emo piece of shit when I'm not even white? No I'm more diverse than you will ever be as I've probably been to more places in the world than your family has ever set foot on in their entire lifetimes.
Funny how you constantly repost your messages, I think it's time for your ADD medications.
@Rocketeer1001 lol im not emo and apprently your not very smart either. You think only white people can be xenophobic or racist? lmao haha yea right, just read your page shit man. As soon as you call for a 'crusade', 'war' against Islam or any religion what am I supposed to think?
Go back to your fucking hut man and stay there or else you grow up and accept people, damn.
@xdeliriumx1 "You think only white people can be xenophobic or racist? " Obviously i don't; in fact, your God Mahmoud I'manutjob is the epitomy of xenophbia and racism. When I brought up the point about whites, what I'm saying is by virtue of being a minority, I've probably got more experience of diversity than you will have in your lifetime.
Now please fuck off and go slit your wrists whilst listening to Metallica or something. Politics isn't your thing.
@Rocketeer1001 im not saying I support that religion cuz I don't or any other for that matter (because honestly they are all the same to some extent, I wouldn't praise one over the other).
What the hell would you know about me or my family? lol and no I dont have ADD or any sickness lol
Your the one who got all worked up on what I said when you barely read my comment, so save it and shut up if ur not happy man.
And I would rather be the puppet of NATO, as you call us, than a slave to communists.
The sad thing nobody is trying to invade Russia. Especially us. What for? People here live in peace. But they remember the crimes of communism. And the young ones will also be taught, but they will discuss it, the knowledge isn't going to be forced into their brains.
My granddad was anti-fascist. After 45 we was anti-communist. My father and I are the same. I just hope my kinds won't have to be anti-communists.
Being slave to freedom and equality, that sounds much better then puppet of NATO, especially slave worth something to its owner, unlike puppet which worth nothing. You may want peace, buy your masters don't, just like German soldiers didn't want war, but they had little choice... But unlike then, you have a choice now.
Don't forget as the war was ending, even the most ardent fascists became anti-fascists... What are you fighting now? Return of Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth?
If for you Communism is fascism, then from this present society to anarchism, everything to you is fascism... I really feel bad for you... Shame on your parents and their separatist and deficit nurturing of your personality.
But then again, if you want to be nothing under the boots of the monsters who destroy whole world... Then at least listen to your grandfather in his last days of war... Many Felixes are among Polish people, you may not like it, but you have still time to choose.
Why there was a secret command from Stalin to eliminate the Home Army (which was fighting Nazis after Soviets joined the allies)? Or why didn't Soviets help the Warsaw Uprising or didn't allow the allies planes to land on your airfields?
You really wanted to fight Nazism!
I see, that you really believe what you are saying. Believe it.
For me, communism is fasicm. You just have other way to control and supress people. You have other ways to change history and facts
I would gladly like to see that SECRET command from Stalin that Nazi Gestapo found to indiscriminate Armia Krajowa to fight against Soviets, as they did in Lithuania especially!
Whats that? History forgot about Armia Ludowa? Shame on you.
In fact, if you read manuscripts from fighters of scout echelon that was in front of Warsaw, even if they physically didn't have power to fight against Nazis, they arranged several meetings with resistance, and res. tip them 3 times to the Nazis killers...
...killing brave Soviets Officers. You should ask Churchill, why didn't he consult Soviet Command as it was agreed about the operation... Maybe they expected Rokossovsky to defect Stalin? Haha, pathetic little dreams. In fact, when uprising was set to motion, Soviet Army was stretched all over, and even like that they would have gladly fought. Or maybe you can ask British paratroopers that observed Warsaw go in flames?
Its more like: There are people who remember, and many more people will forget by time.
You can't rewrite history to your linking. I just urge you to read any manuscripts about pre-War period from any high-ranking officer of the Red Army who had access to STAVKA and other intelligence apparatus, you see, unlike you, I base my statements on real facts... Unlike you base yourself on movies, books and what TV told you, or by people who were influenced by the same. All have forgotten the veterans?
If you were right, why would Soviets Kill 20.000 officers... and not wipe out everyone who had potentials for leadership? In fact, you reminded me, if you were right, only rational explanation to that is that they have trialed them on serious crimes they committed while occupying Belarus and invasion of USSR from Civil War... Thats to only rational argument that is valid. But that is far fetched as all those Polish who joined the Nazis and west against Soviet Union and now they rewrite history.
I wonder, do you hear voices in your head, or just acting. I'll repeat one more time, it wasn't Stalin's job to check intelligence reports, let alone judge over what report is genuine, its a job for intelligence officer of GRU.
Looking how majority of Belorussians lived in the east, and looking how majority of them wanted joining to the USSR (over oppressing from the Poland). And don't worry, they just reversed whole Nazi process of forceful habitation of Germans, they did the same everywhere.
So they went abroad? So what? They are free to do it. It is not like in Poland 45-89 were you could go abroad to Soviet friendly countries, with some exceptions.
And yes, today is much better, then the Poland under the Soviet influence. Much better.
Just how these days Russia (and Belarus) are surrounded with violently hostile Ukraine, Poland, Baltic States, Caucasus states...etc Soviet Union was in even worse position. Artificially created hate and conflict, always played in role in the great imperial powers. I would be ashamed then, seen how Poland was just a tool for the imperial powers, and its ruling classes.
I mean the Russian Civil War (the Revolution), invasion by 21 country...etc that followed.
Its good tha you lived in Poland from 1945! I'm glad you have all the impressions from then. Too bad you haven't been in medieval Poland... Last time I checked people like you would gladly return to those 'days of glory'... On the other hand, good luck on the job acceptance, hopefully you won't be forced to travel across EU for 60% payed wages... Maybe they will need another historian to write about his experiences in medieval and 'communist' Poland!
"hopefully you won't be forced to travel across EU for 60% payed wages..."
When I was working as a kitchen porter, I got exactly the amount of money from the advertisiment. So I do not about those 60% wages (although I admit some people work for less than should).
And more thing. First Russian Empire departed Poland in 18th century. Then the Polish-Bolshevik war. Then the WWII.
Really, we do not want your army here. We want people like Czechow, Dostojewski, Mendelejew, Czebyszew, Bulhakov.
How much did you make, comparing to a British boy that works the same job, thats my point if you would dare to read what I posted.
As long as you are a puppet of the NATO and west (and EU as quazi-Nato puppet), you will have no peace. And as long as your government supports them into changing history, you will also have no peace. What you need is real freedom of expression, freedom of expression that is only possible in normalized Socialist (and in the end) communist society.
Soviet Union when it was still on the right road, you could have almost total freedom of expression. You could find in the newspapers, raging from open nationalistic views and demands, to the far leftist demands, and they all were debated and done for. From problems about corruption, to the problems about public transport and health. All had same equal tone of expression.
Thats why west is attacking that, moaning why can't their propaganda operatives get more chances to slander in public.
Slander over proportions about certain aspect, like they do now. Forcing people to that matter, and making them blind on the others. Its easy for them to be media moguls, when they own radiostations, newspaper houses...etc
But when you can't find private owner to bribe in USSR, things become much more tricky. Especially when in USSR (and everywhere for that matter) for treason, either heads fall or you go to jail (aka Gulag)
P.S. When I said USSR on the right road, I meant till late 40s.
They signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact to buy some time? Now that's a good one, then how come Stalin didn't believe the spy reports (by Richard Sorgeg) that clearly stated the Nazis are going to attack at dawn?
Ah, so Soviets were also afraid of Nazis, during the Polish-Bolshevik war? It was, I think, a lot of time before the Nazi movement...
Civil war? Which Civil war :D You mean the nobles that rebeled against our kind, that were bought by the tsar and later by the tsaress? Good one :D
If you would understand intelligence agencies functions, you wouldn't be laughing at something serious as that.
'Stalin' (more likely Soviet Union as totality) had agents from British intelligence circuits to the top of the German intelligence offices. No less then few thousands of contacts, all converging into Moscow for evaluation. Stalin didn't have any intake in that, unless you think he can stop the time and do all work he had.
Soviet Union had known actual week of invasion, but days/hours that was almost impossible to pinpoint, what is important they had all ready for them, which resulted that whole German offansive even in the first few hours of invasion had many times more casualties that they expected in the most grim evaluation.
If you recall, Poland then was created from occupied Russia (or in this point from occupied Soviet Union) by German side, very flattering.
Soviet Union had 1942 as a year when her land forces were in full readiness, cause as you don't know, during the last 30s they started great modernization. Same went for German land force and Navy, which were due to be fully ready sometime after 1942.
This video is so funny... You must really stop reading Montefoire and Conquest, for your own mental health, at least when you are talking about history (and politics)
Its good that they mentally fed you in the kindergarten with regular fat-scraps. Too bad they haven't teach you to write proper. But I guess all comes in time and age.
Too bad you can't construct any rational argument. But I'll return your favor, and only remind you to say it bluntly: 'Semper Bardus Fidelis! '
Oh, and you brought a very "rational" argument right? "It's good that they mentally fed you in the kindergarten".... Well, I'll take that as a compliment you dweeb. Your right, I was very lucky I never had to wait in line for my monthy rations of turnips in water, I don't if I can say the same for your toilet. That is, if you live in Russia....
The rational argument has been stated in this video, you have nothing to oppose it because these are facts. I hate fucking communists....
Who said that I needed to respond rational arguments on your irrational? You started with spraying slanders out on public, too bad your memory runs only so much, they really forgot to reprogram you fully. But don't worry, 'Semper Fidelis' are just the right stuff for you.
You are lucky you never waited in line for brain, logically, cause you don't really need it, except few motor functions...
Too bad that so-called facts on which this video rests is not recognized by any juridical court.
You started this by laughing at millions who have died under communism, bigot
I hate the Marines haha, this isn't my account I went to Westpoint. So keep it up man...
And some of these statements are estimates while others are events, which of course happened. The exact numbers are disputed but the existence of the gulags, happening of the Red Terror, invasion of Finland and Poland by the USSR, Katyn Massacre, The Great Purge, Collectivization and mass murder of Kulaks... these are not
Too bad that those millions only exist in fairy tales and stories, and have nothing to do with reality.
Too bad West Point (its written separately by the way) became a meat grinder for intellectual minds.
By your knowledge of English I don't even know if you finished Elementary school, or even finished 1st year in West Point... I really feel sorry for your bankrupt life. People would think that after 1990s all 'secrets' about USSR would be revealed, I guess they forgot to tell you that...
What is funny? Millions of Ukrainians killed during Holodomor? A more than million Poles deported to Syberia and Lagry? 20000 Polish officers killed in Katyn, more in Ostaszkow, Starobielsk, Kozielsk? That sounds very funny!
Millions and millions die all around, but somehow, those millions just can't fit into demography statistics in reality.
Last time I recall Katyn was about 4000, and what about all those Tatars deported too? And another endless wagons of other various nationalities? Slaughtered like a cattle for someones fun...
Now comes the part where you say how Hitler was 'evil', but not so much as Stalin, or that in fact he was a true human, trying to save Europe from Red scum... ? No? Don't be scared...
I see that that number accumulated on 22.000 now, very progressive. Maybe now, they will blame the communists on breakup on Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.
But let us get in dept of the Katyn don't we.
In 2005, the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office closed the "Katyn Case" saying there was no evidence of genocide against the Polish people
Let us not forget that prosecutors (of that court) put the number of those killed at 14,500.
Last time I remember, those who waged this open informational war against Soviet Union till 1950s (communists), were in WW2 cheering for Nazi victory, and were helping them escape Soviet capture.
Do you even recall plan for the Soviet Union to unite the whole Europe to stop the Nazis in Czechoslovakia and after, in Poland? They all got rejected and laugh at... But when they started winning all changed
"Do you even recall plan for the Soviet Union to unite the whole Europe to stop the Nazis in Czechoslovakia and after, in Poland? They all got rejected and laugh at... But when they started winning all changed"
Do you recall the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in which Poland was divided into two regions, and then, after the Nazis invaded Poland, Soviets invaded 17.09.1939. And then, happy Soviets shook hands with Nazis. Very, very nice plan to stop the Nazis.
After CCCP was left to the wolves when West rejected to unite against Nazis (as was the prime reason for allowing nazis to arm), from Czechoslovakia breakup till the invasion of Poland. Soviets had no other alternative then to sign a mock pact to buy time (Read that from any WW2 Soviet general biography)
On the other hand those spheres of influence were the territories which imperial powers took from them in the Civil War, as you well know. Hypocrite.
Just for your information, I only found censored book, in your westernized societies (including USSR after WW2, but that is noraml), especially cause I was able to read many versions of the same books. On the other hand in capitalism, censorship is simple - Amount of money that you can intake into information sector. If you don't have much money, you can barely state something in the 3rd rated newspaper. Now that's what I call censorship, wouldn't you? Aside from normal state one as everywhere.
Don't worry, you are actually going to live trough one real terror that you are going to feel on your own skin, similar to Nazi one. (Over half million of Polish workers went to UK in 2004 alone - cheap labor) Its time to revisit those days of colonialism again...
And as long as they suppress any revolutionary thinking and debating by inserting all day propaganda and brainwashing, you are going to suffer... more and more...
You should look more on the Dzerzhinsky, now he was a revolutionary.
It is unfair to compare community value, the need to stick together in time thieves domination to the violent national revolutions around the world gainst thieves in the U.S. and Western Europe. If the revolutionaries had not killed these thieves and thieves worshippers, more people would have die including these thieves worshippers and thieves.
it was the price to pay to the best value, and those who perish was traitors in majority. hard period, its nothing compare to all the atrocity did by the church
Communism was great for driving thieves and killers out of nations that they had robbed and control. For example, in China with communism and or community value ideology in time of hardship, the thieves probably still control China today more people would have been killed under the thieves' control.
why do u think all these imperalist nations pulled back their forches? its because germany seported the revulotion to begin with, same with USA, Britain and France who were their allies. bankowners from all these nations seported the revolution by funding money to the bolsjeviks.
one is left wondering... why do the current "hate laws" and free speech & free association "restrictions" currently in place to make illegal anything "nazi-like" or "fascistic" don't apply to communistic ideas?
Why is it a hate crime to deny or minimize the Holocaust... but not the Ukraine Holodomor? To display the swatika but not the Hammer and Sickle? To have a Goering T-shirt but not an "el che guevarra"? Why the sickening double standards? When we KNOW that Communism was WORSE?
you are the reason why this world is doomed to repeat the same mistakes. not only is your spelling off, but you have a HUGE and i mean HUGE gap of understanding.
Go learn history, economics, sociology and everything else.
Despite the conclusions generally made by western sources, stalin didn't kill 20 million people, let alone 40 or even 50. I don't understand your reasoning behind Stalin being "worse" than Hitler.
lol - you IDIOT. Who is going to be buying your oil? Your country will sink into a recession faster than you can say 'fuck'. Then your KGB leader will plunge into war. fool.
That's quite a weird statement considering the reactionary regime of Poland is ultra-conservative, Russia is an oligarchy, and countries such as Ukraine, the Baltic states, and countries of the former Yugoslavia (and Russia, especially) have been having extremely serious incidents of fascist and neo-Nazi activity. But if you stick your fingers in your ears and loudly say that the communists are taking power again, I guess you can do that, too.
Just to correct the facts, Field Marshalls are 5 star generals, not 6. And Communism never existed and will never exist. The Soviet Union and China were Socialist. Other than that, great video.
No, it was Eisenhower who let Stalin take Berlin, because both armies could do that. Soviets lost more people than Germans even though they had twice as many soldiers and tanks as nazis.
You romanoSNIPER didn't mention anything about Soviet war crimes. Stalin killed 20 million people in late 1930's, he deported millions of Europeans to Asia who soon died of hunger or ilnesses.
And the US airforce pounded the German industry hard. 3 months during 1944 there was terrible weather in central Europe and the American airforce did not launch bombing runs over Germany. During these 3 months, Germany reached an industrial output unmatched the entire war. Then it cleared.
"still live in the cold war"? Why, if I was too make a video of WWII would I "still live" in WWII? No, it affected all politics and led to several wars in the latter 20th century. Millions died because of Communism and anyone communist today who tries to dismiss that is ignorant. Mao's China, Stalin's Soviet Union, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Il's North Korea, Fidel's Cuba... This is Communism.
You still live in the Cold War because of your perceived notion that there actually is a "Red Threat", when in reality the rising superpower right now (China) hasn't been socialist for years, let alone communist, but has rather been capitalist ever since Den Xiaoping took leadership in the 70s. Your definition of communism is worrisome, and paritcularly your rapid denial of the mass worker's movement that took place in the 20th century is also concerning.
Who produced this documentary? Where did it originally run?
stoshu19 2 months ago
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You're so full of shit, tubub. Obviously, you're an unpatriotic coward, because you don't take anthropogenic global warming (AGW) seriously.
I don't "hate" subhuman trash like you, hubub, either. But I hate every idea that comes out of your mouth and every action you take.
mphello 3 months ago
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mphello 3 months ago
false capitalist propaganda..
Nenadnash 3 months ago
@Nenadnash
everything in this video is backed up by verifiable evidence. There is nothing to hide, just putting the truth on the table and it speaks for itself.
tubub 3 months ago 2
@Nenadnash Rubbish. The same is happening today but you cannot see it. You are so blind.
STOPTHEEU 4 weeks ago
@Nenadnash Your wrong. This is Nazi propaganda.
Rosocha3355 3 weeks ago
fake
AnarchoCommunist1 5 months ago
Aside from the physical atrocities, in my opinion their ability to lie and deceive entire populations is the most indicative of their evil.
The thing about lies is that they perpetuate into future generations, spreading ignorance and disorder. White lies, big lies, outright lies, things they purposely don't disclose are lies as well.
jakestep17 9 months ago
Aw, the poor shits, why they go so hungry, there's plenty of food to go around, but not for them REDS! :(
genxxxersize 10 months ago
This isnt the fault of Communism it is the fault of Stalinism, unfortunatly he has disscredited an idea that in principal was a good one
cromarty55 11 months ago
@cromarty55 Long before Stalin and long after, communism was killing people where ever it touched. Even in our current era it still does. Communism is fataly flawed from its conception in every way. No matter how many times or who tries it next, the outcome will always be the same.
9VirtuesKeeper 11 months ago
@9VirtuesKeeper Insanity is when you do something over and over,expecting different results.Therefore communism is insane.
TheKrieg45 2 months ago
@TheKrieg45 Ever wonder how it has so many followers around the world. It truly makes one feel the world is going insane.
9VirtuesKeeper 2 months ago
For Stalin, "socializing" and "collectivizing" the means of production meant that 10 per cent of the USSR lived off of the backs of the poor, rural "proletariat".
whiff1962 1 year ago
um i hate to be the bearer of bad news but the soviet union wasnt communist theres never been a country.the soviet union was more fascist(do research on what this is before saying anything).Also what about the crimes of capitalism like the ones today in mexico and colombia dont the victims there and other countrys deserve to at least have the masses around the world know what the system(capitalism) that killed them is really like
cooks1234 1 year ago
@cooks1234 The Soviet Union was communism in practice, as opposed to in theory. Unfortunately, we live in practice, not theory, and the theory of communism results in tyranny, as we witnessed everywhere communism was practiced.
Fascist governments do not own the means of production, and so the Soviet Union was not fascist.
Do your own homework, you pretentious, under-educated little snot.
davidrodgersNJ 1 year ago
@davidrodgersNJ communism is stateless the soviet union had a central state it had classes.one of fascism core ideas is central state.true we live in practice thats why usa is mixed economy not capitalist.thats why capitalism fails and businesses not just corporations but also gangs,mafia,cartels like in mexico and latin america control nearly everything.seriously i can tell your one of those glenn beck fox news media propaganda brainwashed idiots.learn/understand both sides of history dumbass.
cooks1234 1 year ago
@cooks1234 Actually, communism is supposed to lead to the "withering away of the state" after the "dictatorship of the proletariat." The Soviets had their "dictatorship of the proletariat," but the state didn't whither away, as Marxism predicted. Instead, the state became a devouring monster, as John Locke, David Hume et al would have predicted.
Latin America may be "capitalist," by your definition, but free markets there are a small minority. Read Hernando de Soto.
davidrodgersNJ 1 year ago
@davidrodgersNJ thats transition stage(socialism)
actually no its not by my definition its capitalist definitions.cause thats where i got it from.privatization(property,people,security,means of production,decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments,etc).freedom(not liberty).profit motive,even the doing things by choice exists there.free markets pretty much exist especially since many states are business controlled.de soto yeah a rich dude who worked with fujimori uh
cooks1234 1 year ago
@davidrodgersNJ let me put it this way if i had to believe between what a rich economist who grew up most his life in europe says and actually being there.which i was.i go with being there.now yeah there are recently few that are closer to what would be called socialism(even though it requires workers control)but i notice they are doing better than more capitalist ones.ex venezuela to guatemala
cooks1234 1 year ago
@davidrodgersNJ Karl Marx himself wasn't a Marxist; what does that tell the world? To me this one thing in itself speaks wonders.
jakestep17 9 months ago
fyi, pathetic displays of propaganda work against your cause
jmpeer 1 year ago
long live communism
CaptainBluebear08 1 year ago
@tubub why don't you make a video exposing the US's crimes since the end of WW2?
Supporting dictators, overthrowing regimes, killing millions of civilians?
xdeliriumx1 2 years ago
@xdeliriumx1
Because they are already reported in various ways. Meanwhile, for some reason people get angry when speaking about similar crimes made by the "great and mighty" Soviet Union / current Russia...
Mikey84 1 year ago
@Mikey84
Ya I know they have committed horrible crimes and killed millions but its just that most people on here denounce those ,etc... And then say the US is such a great country that loves freedom and fights on everyone's behalf all around the world, which of course is bullshit.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1
"US is such a great country that loves freedom and fights on everyone's behalf"
That's what the Soviet Union blasted too :P... Naja, anyway, you're right. Every country should mind their own businesses first and THEN start to criticize / try to change others...
Mikey84 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1
" know they have committed horrible crimes and killed millions"
Hey did you know that the Great Leap Forward resulted in the deaths of 30-50 million Chinese people? Or the Great Purges by Stalin?
Yes? Oh but of course you don't give a shit do you the only time give a shit about civil liberties is when it concerns US "atrocities" in other countries. But as soon as it comes to countries that routinely flout human rights, you shut your fucking mouth.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
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@xdeliriumx1
"why don't you make a video exposing the US's crimes since the end of WW2?"
Why don't you make a video exposing the USSR's crimes since the end of WW2?
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
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The TASS paper informed that 4th of May 1945 the russians had 3.180.000 german prisoners. Maybe the numbers were much higher, but we will never know for sure. Molotov said in the conferanse of Foreign Affairs Ministers in Moscow in 1947 had released 1.003974 german pow between may 1945 and march 1947. He claimed it were only 890532 pows in Russia.
tusenkunstneren2 2 years ago
WORKERS OF ALL LANDS, UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
another bullshit video.
as much as it PAINS me to say this, I HAVE to say it - 99.9% of people are TOO STUPID to see through the anti-communist PROPAGANDA
DestroyerAlexandros 2 years ago
not anything near to what the communist have killed, I'm Cuban... I KNOW!
aldoinmiami 2 years ago
And the people running American politics today are closet communist that think they can bring about a kinder gentler but just as communist society right here in America. Obama, Pelosi, reid,hillary, Edwards, are all closet communists.
Tabooga65 2 years ago
BUT Pelosi, Boxer & the clintons have million$!
myraj34dd 2 years ago
60 millions???
You are not correct. 600 MILLIONES!!!
And each of them were killed by Stalin(Sauron) personally.
semenko85 2 years ago
How many were killed by the atom bomb by the americans ?
csanchez54 2 years ago
You really believe what you are saying? Just amazing :D
Seriously, what was proven? All there was proven, that your implications were ilogical. Being a folower to regime that turns everyones to slaves, yeah sure.
Don't worry comrade, no crimes of communism will be forgotten. And we do not have Rudolf Dieses here... I am sorry, I ment Dzierzynskys, and thanks God for that!
Really, they are no diffirence to me [;
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Shame? We are proud of being FREE! We are proud that we are not in Warsaw pact. And believe me, many people were happy when Stalin died. Of course, you don't get it, so many manifestations, so many people in those propaganda movies.
And I am happy that a communist like you says "SHAME ON YOU!". Really. I would be as much happy as if TrueFascist said to me "SHAME ON YOU!". Really.
You can have your "manager" Stalin, as is written in your history books. Stay in your country, make communism there
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago 5
You really answered all my points with those replies... I couldn't have done better. One just needs to read my points and then to read your replies.
You have just proved all what I was saying!! Amazing!
I haven't seen this since I encountered a uninformed student on Youtube, who in attacking communism actually answered all his own questions and became a communist himself... He was intelligent, but uninformed...
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Unfortunatelly, they weren't sent to Warsaw, instead, they were sent to Market Garden.
Equality? Yeah, equality achieved by extermination of intelligence. Thank you very much. I would rather be a capitalist pig, earning good money for my hard work. I when I have enough, I will start teaching kids Electronic in school for free. And I need no totalitarian regime to tell me what to do.
Right now, we are fighting for peace, and that no communists or fascist get the power to rule.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Buahaha, yeah, indiscrimate Armia Krajowa. When Soviets robbed villagers from food and Army Krajowa responded, we were so Nazi to you. You are forgetting, that you two were invaders, so don't be surprised we fought you. Even after we were supposed to be "friends", you had your crimes. Such as not allowing allies to land their planes on your airfields during the Warsaw Uprising. And we didn't need British paratroopers, we had our own units that were trained for the Uprising.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
The problem is we are not rewriting history, we remember it as it was.
The problem is, what you are saying is completelly illogical. Suddenly, you are saying that you wanted to fight the Nazis. Then what about the extermination of locals, they were Nazis too?
Really, I don't feel bad comparing communism to fasicm. Even so, fasicm didn't kill as many people as communism.
I base my facts on books wroten by historians or people that lived those days. Or politicians.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
How Many have beed killed by capitalism...Humm? I mean the amrican capitalism, you know...USA?
csanchez54 2 years ago
"How Many have beed killed by capitalism...Humm? I mean the amrican capitalism, you know...USA?"
What does it have to do with the Polish - Soviet conflict? Yo no se.
But if you want the answer - I do not know.
WielkiZielonyMelon 2 years ago
The United States has massacred the people of the Philippines, exploited the peoples of Latin America through the Monroe Doctrine, suppressed any and all leftist governments as if their version of democracy and capitalism was the only one that mattered. They have nuked over 100,000 people into sweet oblivion, invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Grenada and Vietnam, Nicaragua and Guatemala in 1954, Chile in 1973 and Iran, trained radical Islamists against the Soviets, acquired Guam and Puerto Rico...
Frogstomp121 2 years ago
@Frogstomp121 The USSR subjected the whole people of Eastern Europe to ruthless authoritarianism reminscent of medival slavery that resulted in the economic catastrophe from which that region has yet to recover. Communism has murdered over 100 million people, is responsible for the murderous regimes and sorry states of Castro and Kim Jong Il and led to the assassination of any hopes of democracy, capitalism and right-wing rights-respecting governments in Latin America and Asia.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 @Rocketeer1001 hey asshole when I said that it is exactly what I meant....
When did I shut my mouth? I was just pointing out what idiots like you say and the what the idiot who made the video says. People constantly point to what the Communists did and say it was bad (and yes it was) and say that since they killed more well we should focus on them... And then talk like hypocrites about the US.
Read before making stupid comments.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 And the same to you:
People constantly point to what the USA did and say it was bad (and yes it was) and say that since they killed more well we should focus on them... And then talk like hypocrites about Communism.
READ BEFORE MAKING STUPID COMMENTS.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 "well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries."
Oh God will you please fuck off with the whole anti-liberal diatribe if we had people like you running the United Kingdom in the 1980s, our economy would have went to shit (unemployment would have been in the high 30s) were it not for Margaret Thatcher.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 Also when talking about economic effects well look at what 'liberalization' type policies supported by the IMF and the World Bank did to these countries. Shit economically it made it even worse, more unemployment, poverty and so on... It was no fucking paradise before but that made it even worse, so to say they didn't even recover yet from the old system is quite incomplete, they also got fucked up by the 'free market'.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 And on top of it ur a xenophobic racists piece of shit, well crawl back into your fucking hole and give us a break you ignorant idiot.
'Crusade against Islam', hey man all organized religion should be boycotted as far as im concerned, none is better than another, its all the same to me.
But I dont bother, I just ignore it, maybe you should try that.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 How am i a xenophobe you emo piece of shit when I'm not even white? No I'm more diverse than you will ever be as I've probably been to more places in the world than your family has ever set foot on in their entire lifetimes.
Funny how you constantly repost your messages, I think it's time for your ADD medications.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 lol im not emo and apprently your not very smart either. You think only white people can be xenophobic or racist? lmao haha yea right, just read your page shit man. As soon as you call for a 'crusade', 'war' against Islam or any religion what am I supposed to think?
Go back to your fucking hut man and stay there or else you grow up and accept people, damn.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
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@xdeliriumx1 "You think only white people can be xenophobic or racist? " Obviously i don't; in fact, your God Mahmoud I'manutjob is the epitomy of xenophbia and racism. When I brought up the point about whites, what I'm saying is by virtue of being a minority, I've probably got more experience of diversity than you will have in your lifetime.
Now please fuck off and go slit your wrists whilst listening to Metallica or something. Politics isn't your thing.
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago
@Rocketeer1001 im not saying I support that religion cuz I don't or any other for that matter (because honestly they are all the same to some extent, I wouldn't praise one over the other).
What the hell would you know about me or my family? lol and no I dont have ADD or any sickness lol
Your the one who got all worked up on what I said when you barely read my comment, so save it and shut up if ur not happy man.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
fuck pooland they were not even in USSR and they still believe they were important. HA the whole warsaw pact was just shield for USSR
OR3NG 3 years ago
And I would rather be the puppet of NATO, as you call us, than a slave to communists.
The sad thing nobody is trying to invade Russia. Especially us. What for? People here live in peace. But they remember the crimes of communism. And the young ones will also be taught, but they will discuss it, the knowledge isn't going to be forced into their brains.
My granddad was anti-fascist. After 45 we was anti-communist. My father and I are the same. I just hope my kinds won't have to be anti-communists.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Being slave to freedom and equality, that sounds much better then puppet of NATO, especially slave worth something to its owner, unlike puppet which worth nothing. You may want peace, buy your masters don't, just like German soldiers didn't want war, but they had little choice... But unlike then, you have a choice now.
Don't forget as the war was ending, even the most ardent fascists became anti-fascists... What are you fighting now? Return of Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth?
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
If for you Communism is fascism, then from this present society to anarchism, everything to you is fascism... I really feel bad for you... Shame on your parents and their separatist and deficit nurturing of your personality.
But then again, if you want to be nothing under the boots of the monsters who destroy whole world... Then at least listen to your grandfather in his last days of war... Many Felixes are among Polish people, you may not like it, but you have still time to choose.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Why there was a secret command from Stalin to eliminate the Home Army (which was fighting Nazis after Soviets joined the allies)? Or why didn't Soviets help the Warsaw Uprising or didn't allow the allies planes to land on your airfields?
You really wanted to fight Nazism!
I see, that you really believe what you are saying. Believe it.
For me, communism is fasicm. You just have other way to control and supress people. You have other ways to change history and facts
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
I would gladly like to see that SECRET command from Stalin that Nazi Gestapo found to indiscriminate Armia Krajowa to fight against Soviets, as they did in Lithuania especially!
Whats that? History forgot about Armia Ludowa? Shame on you.
In fact, if you read manuscripts from fighters of scout echelon that was in front of Warsaw, even if they physically didn't have power to fight against Nazis, they arranged several meetings with resistance, and res. tip them 3 times to the Nazis killers...
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
...killing brave Soviets Officers. You should ask Churchill, why didn't he consult Soviet Command as it was agreed about the operation... Maybe they expected Rokossovsky to defect Stalin? Haha, pathetic little dreams. In fact, when uprising was set to motion, Soviet Army was stretched all over, and even like that they would have gladly fought. Or maybe you can ask British paratroopers that observed Warsaw go in flames?
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Yeah, I hear the same story again.
Unfortunately, your implications aren't logic.
If Soviets wanted to join Poland to fight the Nazis, and Poland rejected, then how come you killed POW and sent Polish intelligence to Siberia?
The answer is simple, with no one intelligent enough, the country crumbles, it loses it's history. People become a mass that is easy to lead.
Unfortunatelly for you TrueCommunist, there are people here who remember. And more people will learn
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Its more like: There are people who remember, and many more people will forget by time.
You can't rewrite history to your linking. I just urge you to read any manuscripts about pre-War period from any high-ranking officer of the Red Army who had access to STAVKA and other intelligence apparatus, you see, unlike you, I base my statements on real facts... Unlike you base yourself on movies, books and what TV told you, or by people who were influenced by the same. All have forgotten the veterans?
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
If you were right, why would Soviets Kill 20.000 officers... and not wipe out everyone who had potentials for leadership? In fact, you reminded me, if you were right, only rational explanation to that is that they have trialed them on serious crimes they committed while occupying Belarus and invasion of USSR from Civil War... Thats to only rational argument that is valid. But that is far fetched as all those Polish who joined the Nazis and west against Soviet Union and now they rewrite history.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
"'Stalin' (more likely Soviet Union as totality) had agents from British intelligence circuits to the top of the German intelligence offices."
Agreed. But this doesn't change the fact, that he neglected the reports. Because Hitler was his companion.
As I recall Poland was created from part of German. On the other hand, USSR took our lands in the east. How genrous of the USSR!
"Poland was just a tool for the imperial powers, and its ruling classes."
Oh thank God you came! You saved us! Ha-ha!
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
I wonder, do you hear voices in your head, or just acting. I'll repeat one more time, it wasn't Stalin's job to check intelligence reports, let alone judge over what report is genuine, its a job for intelligence officer of GRU.
Looking how majority of Belorussians lived in the east, and looking how majority of them wanted joining to the USSR (over oppressing from the Poland). And don't worry, they just reversed whole Nazi process of forceful habitation of Germans, they did the same everywhere.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
So they went abroad? So what? They are free to do it. It is not like in Poland 45-89 were you could go abroad to Soviet friendly countries, with some exceptions.
And yes, today is much better, then the Poland under the Soviet influence. Much better.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Just how these days Russia (and Belarus) are surrounded with violently hostile Ukraine, Poland, Baltic States, Caucasus states...etc Soviet Union was in even worse position. Artificially created hate and conflict, always played in role in the great imperial powers. I would be ashamed then, seen how Poland was just a tool for the imperial powers, and its ruling classes.
I mean the Russian Civil War (the Revolution), invasion by 21 country...etc that followed.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Please, re-read what I said about censorship, cause your answer gives impression that you haven't read word of it.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Its good tha you lived in Poland from 1945! I'm glad you have all the impressions from then. Too bad you haven't been in medieval Poland... Last time I checked people like you would gladly return to those 'days of glory'... On the other hand, good luck on the job acceptance, hopefully you won't be forced to travel across EU for 60% payed wages... Maybe they will need another historian to write about his experiences in medieval and 'communist' Poland!
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
"hopefully you won't be forced to travel across EU for 60% payed wages..."
When I was working as a kitchen porter, I got exactly the amount of money from the advertisiment. So I do not about those 60% wages (although I admit some people work for less than should).
And more thing. First Russian Empire departed Poland in 18th century. Then the Polish-Bolshevik war. Then the WWII.
Really, we do not want your army here. We want people like Czechow, Dostojewski, Mendelejew, Czebyszew, Bulhakov.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
How much did you make, comparing to a British boy that works the same job, thats my point if you would dare to read what I posted.
As long as you are a puppet of the NATO and west (and EU as quazi-Nato puppet), you will have no peace. And as long as your government supports them into changing history, you will also have no peace. What you need is real freedom of expression, freedom of expression that is only possible in normalized Socialist (and in the end) communist society.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Soviet Union when it was still on the right road, you could have almost total freedom of expression. You could find in the newspapers, raging from open nationalistic views and demands, to the far leftist demands, and they all were debated and done for. From problems about corruption, to the problems about public transport and health. All had same equal tone of expression.
Thats why west is attacking that, moaning why can't their propaganda operatives get more chances to slander in public.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Slander over proportions about certain aspect, like they do now. Forcing people to that matter, and making them blind on the others. Its easy for them to be media moguls, when they own radiostations, newspaper houses...etc
But when you can't find private owner to bribe in USSR, things become much more tricky. Especially when in USSR (and everywhere for that matter) for treason, either heads fall or you go to jail (aka Gulag)
P.S. When I said USSR on the right road, I meant till late 40s.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Żelaznu Feluś Dzierżyński was a revoliutonary. And coofounder of CzeKa. Yes, something to be proud of [:
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Censored book? Or maybe movies? Like the "Defiance" movie, which is a historical lie?
Or the book by Gross, in which he says that Poles were murderers and anti-semites?
Oh yeas, comrad, you can buy such books in the censorshiped Poland :D
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
They signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact to buy some time? Now that's a good one, then how come Stalin didn't believe the spy reports (by Richard Sorgeg) that clearly stated the Nazis are going to attack at dawn?
Ah, so Soviets were also afraid of Nazis, during the Polish-Bolshevik war? It was, I think, a lot of time before the Nazi movement...
Civil war? Which Civil war :D You mean the nobles that rebeled against our kind, that were bought by the tsar and later by the tsaress? Good one :D
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
It was Richard Sorge, not Sorgeg, sorry for the mistake.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
If you would understand intelligence agencies functions, you wouldn't be laughing at something serious as that.
'Stalin' (more likely Soviet Union as totality) had agents from British intelligence circuits to the top of the German intelligence offices. No less then few thousands of contacts, all converging into Moscow for evaluation. Stalin didn't have any intake in that, unless you think he can stop the time and do all work he had.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Soviet Union had known actual week of invasion, but days/hours that was almost impossible to pinpoint, what is important they had all ready for them, which resulted that whole German offansive even in the first few hours of invasion had many times more casualties that they expected in the most grim evaluation.
If you recall, Poland then was created from occupied Russia (or in this point from occupied Soviet Union) by German side, very flattering.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
P.S.
Soviet Union had 1942 as a year when her land forces were in full readiness, cause as you don't know, during the last 30s they started great modernization. Same went for German land force and Navy, which were due to be fully ready sometime after 1942.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
how many Christians were murdered during the Jewish - communist holocaust?
why is this not in our history books? why are there not memorials in dc?
randomguyrandomstuff 3 years ago
This video is so funny... You must really stop reading Montefoire and Conquest, for your own mental health, at least when you are talking about history (and politics)
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Your right, millions of people being massacred under Communism is hilarious... I can tell you would find that funny from your name
1cemarinealaysmarine 3 years ago
It wouldn't have been hilarious if it was true. Unlucky for those who invented that point of view, its not.
On the other hand, I'm glad you find my 'name' worth your time, I'm sorry that I can't say same with your 'name'.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Oh really, just like the Holocaust doesn't exist right? Oh wait, that one isn't in line with your poltical ideaology....
Your name isn't worth anyone's "time", I guess I could've spent the 2 seconds it took to read it better...
1cemarinealaysmarine 3 years ago
Its good that they mentally fed you in the kindergarten with regular fat-scraps. Too bad they haven't teach you to write proper. But I guess all comes in time and age.
Too bad you can't construct any rational argument. But I'll return your favor, and only remind you to say it bluntly: 'Semper Bardus Fidelis! '
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Oh, and you brought a very "rational" argument right? "It's good that they mentally fed you in the kindergarten".... Well, I'll take that as a compliment you dweeb. Your right, I was very lucky I never had to wait in line for my monthy rations of turnips in water, I don't if I can say the same for your toilet. That is, if you live in Russia....
The rational argument has been stated in this video, you have nothing to oppose it because these are facts. I hate fucking communists....
1cemarinealaysmarine 3 years ago
Who said that I needed to respond rational arguments on your irrational? You started with spraying slanders out on public, too bad your memory runs only so much, they really forgot to reprogram you fully. But don't worry, 'Semper Fidelis' are just the right stuff for you.
You are lucky you never waited in line for brain, logically, cause you don't really need it, except few motor functions...
Too bad that so-called facts on which this video rests is not recognized by any juridical court.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
You started this by laughing at millions who have died under communism, bigot
I hate the Marines haha, this isn't my account I went to Westpoint. So keep it up man...
And some of these statements are estimates while others are events, which of course happened. The exact numbers are disputed but the existence of the gulags, happening of the Red Terror, invasion of Finland and Poland by the USSR, Katyn Massacre, The Great Purge, Collectivization and mass murder of Kulaks... these are not
1cemarinealaysmarine 3 years ago
Too bad that those millions only exist in fairy tales and stories, and have nothing to do with reality.
Too bad West Point (its written separately by the way) became a meat grinder for intellectual minds.
By your knowledge of English I don't even know if you finished Elementary school, or even finished 1st year in West Point... I really feel sorry for your bankrupt life. People would think that after 1990s all 'secrets' about USSR would be revealed, I guess they forgot to tell you that...
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
What is funny? Millions of Ukrainians killed during Holodomor? A more than million Poles deported to Syberia and Lagry? 20000 Polish officers killed in Katyn, more in Ostaszkow, Starobielsk, Kozielsk? That sounds very funny!
TrueCommunist = TrueNazi
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Millions and millions die all around, but somehow, those millions just can't fit into demography statistics in reality.
Last time I recall Katyn was about 4000, and what about all those Tatars deported too? And another endless wagons of other various nationalities? Slaughtered like a cattle for someones fun...
Now comes the part where you say how Hitler was 'evil', but not so much as Stalin, or that in fact he was a true human, trying to save Europe from Red scum... ? No? Don't be scared...
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
4000? It's 20 000.
Oh yes, I know all about those Nations.
And no. Hitler was the same scumbag as Stalin. I am not afraid or scared to say this :*
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
I see that that number accumulated on 22.000 now, very progressive. Maybe now, they will blame the communists on breakup on Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.
But let us get in dept of the Katyn don't we.
In 2005, the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office closed the "Katyn Case" saying there was no evidence of genocide against the Polish people
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Let us remember too:
In 1990 Mikhail Gorbachev officially admitted that Soviet secret police were responsible for the massacre.
In 2005, the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office closed the "Katyn Case" saying there was no evidence of genocide against the Polish people.
Its like saying, Bush admitted that Iraq is full of WMDs and as punishment they will bomb Iraq to a pulp.
You just need to look further then your nationalistic-frenzy family member or local screaming nationalistic propagator.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Let us not forget that prosecutors (of that court) put the number of those killed at 14,500.
Last time I remember, those who waged this open informational war against Soviet Union till 1950s (communists), were in WW2 cheering for Nazi victory, and were helping them escape Soviet capture.
Do you even recall plan for the Soviet Union to unite the whole Europe to stop the Nazis in Czechoslovakia and after, in Poland? They all got rejected and laugh at... But when they started winning all changed
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
TrueCommunist:
"Do you even recall plan for the Soviet Union to unite the whole Europe to stop the Nazis in Czechoslovakia and after, in Poland? They all got rejected and laugh at... But when they started winning all changed"
Do you recall the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in which Poland was divided into two regions, and then, after the Nazis invaded Poland, Soviets invaded 17.09.1939. And then, happy Soviets shook hands with Nazis. Very, very nice plan to stop the Nazis.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
You see, you only reinforces me opinion.
After CCCP was left to the wolves when West rejected to unite against Nazis (as was the prime reason for allowing nazis to arm), from Czechoslovakia breakup till the invasion of Poland. Soviets had no other alternative then to sign a mock pact to buy time (Read that from any WW2 Soviet general biography)
On the other hand those spheres of influence were the territories which imperial powers took from them in the Civil War, as you well know. Hypocrite.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
TrueCommunist:
"You just need to look further then your nationalistic-frenzy family member or local screaming nationalistic propagator."
Oh my God, I could say the same thing about you :D
Sorry, but I my family went thorugh too much terror from Nazis and Soviets. That;s all there is to say about this.
Besides, you know, in Poland we read books that aren't censored.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
Just for your information, I only found censored book, in your westernized societies (including USSR after WW2, but that is noraml), especially cause I was able to read many versions of the same books. On the other hand in capitalism, censorship is simple - Amount of money that you can intake into information sector. If you don't have much money, you can barely state something in the 3rd rated newspaper. Now that's what I call censorship, wouldn't you? Aside from normal state one as everywhere.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
Don't worry, you are actually going to live trough one real terror that you are going to feel on your own skin, similar to Nazi one. (Over half million of Polish workers went to UK in 2004 alone - cheap labor) Its time to revisit those days of colonialism again...
And as long as they suppress any revolutionary thinking and debating by inserting all day propaganda and brainwashing, you are going to suffer... more and more...
You should look more on the Dzerzhinsky, now he was a revolutionary.
TrueCommunist 3 years ago
I really don't care how you call killing 20 000 people. Genocide, massacre, execution or whatsoever.
WielkiZielonyMelon 3 years ago
It is unfair to compare community value, the need to stick together in time thieves domination to the violent national revolutions around the world gainst thieves in the U.S. and Western Europe. If the revolutionaries had not killed these thieves and thieves worshippers, more people would have die including these thieves worshippers and thieves.
PloverWI 3 years ago
whoever flagged this video is the stupidest morons ever...
snowstorm9091moua 3 years ago
it was the price to pay to the best value, and those who perish was traitors in majority. hard period, its nothing compare to all the atrocity did by the church
GJGJ654 3 years ago
Communism was great for driving thieves and killers out of nations that they had robbed and control. For example, in China with communism and or community value ideology in time of hardship, the thieves probably still control China today more people would have been killed under the thieves' control.
PloverWI 3 years ago
long live the soviet union!!!!!!!!!!!!
donaldflores96 3 years ago
Fuck captalism PERIOD.
donaldflores96 3 years ago
why do u think all these imperalist nations pulled back their forches? its because germany seported the revulotion to begin with, same with USA, Britain and France who were their allies. bankowners from all these nations seported the revolution by funding money to the bolsjeviks.
seltra 3 years ago
totalitarianism is bad news what ever idealogical banner you want to put on it.
bogwarriorG 3 years ago 2
one is left wondering... why do the current "hate laws" and free speech & free association "restrictions" currently in place to make illegal anything "nazi-like" or "fascistic" don't apply to communistic ideas?
Why is it a hate crime to deny or minimize the Holocaust... but not the Ukraine Holodomor? To display the swatika but not the Hammer and Sickle? To have a Goering T-shirt but not an "el che guevarra"? Why the sickening double standards? When we KNOW that Communism was WORSE?
lictor313 3 years ago 6
Great video. It does not offend anyone, it only shows that there are other ways to live than under a communism.
KenTo0ky 3 years ago
interesting vid
dragonsyth10 3 years ago
its usally the old ones that say that communism are growing in the east. but evryone knows that its only bullshit! then i mean us younger ones.
seltra 3 years ago
Communism isn't a bad thing when it works. And it works, when the wright people lead it.
Stalin wasn't a good leader. He was a butcher, worse than Hitler.
jocking2 3 years ago
Sorry dude, communism per se doesn't really work.
paulpembroke 3 years ago 2
you are the reason why this world is doomed to repeat the same mistakes. not only is your spelling off, but you have a HUGE and i mean HUGE gap of understanding.
Go learn history, economics, sociology and everything else.
arkadyka 3 years ago
jocking2 is quite right, Communism is good but only in theory. You can't blame Karl Marx for Stalin's butchering. Lenin and Stalin changed communism.
It's true that commnunism never works in the reality.
Razor745 3 years ago
Despite the conclusions generally made by western sources, stalin didn't kill 20 million people, let alone 40 or even 50. I don't understand your reasoning behind Stalin being "worse" than Hitler.
Kwornik 3 years ago
Oh and I disabled ratings to prevent you from going on your some 100 accounts and giving it 1 * over and over... I know you do that too haha so sad
tubub 3 years ago
Also I have been wondering, how are you Americans enjoying your collapsing economy?
wnxsilance 3 years ago
please, continue your ignorance blaming the West for the world's problems, your pathetic. Such a blatent fool...
tubub 3 years ago
lol - you IDIOT. Who is going to be buying your oil? Your country will sink into a recession faster than you can say 'fuck'. Then your KGB leader will plunge into war. fool.
arkadyka 3 years ago
communism = evil simply said
tadeh3 3 years ago
Metaphysical useage of terms such as "evil" = terrible argument
Kwornik 3 years ago 2
Very good video ... looking forward to Part II.
The words communist, communism, socialist and so on are still used by political partys in Eastern Europe that want to rebuild the murdering empire.
RomanoSniper ... to communists, you are a "useful idiot".
Tiutiunyk 3 years ago
Which countries? Like Russia?
Razor745 3 years ago
That's quite a weird statement considering the reactionary regime of Poland is ultra-conservative, Russia is an oligarchy, and countries such as Ukraine, the Baltic states, and countries of the former Yugoslavia (and Russia, especially) have been having extremely serious incidents of fascist and neo-Nazi activity. But if you stick your fingers in your ears and loudly say that the communists are taking power again, I guess you can do that, too.
Kwornik 3 years ago
All animals are equal - but some are more equal than others.
FutureWarrior2006 3 years ago
Oh dear, he quotes Orwell. Orwell the socialist.
MarxBakuninMe 3 years ago
Just to correct the facts, Field Marshalls are 5 star generals, not 6. And Communism never existed and will never exist. The Soviet Union and China were Socialist. Other than that, great video.
Morgoth295 3 years ago
nice video
Razor745 3 years ago
and who defeated hitler?
it was the USSR!!
the amerikans and british could not do shit,
and what do you want to say?that the usa is the most perfect?
the list of the us crimes against humanity is so long that even hitler would get jealous of it
romanoSNIPER 3 years ago
No, it was Eisenhower who let Stalin take Berlin, because both armies could do that. Soviets lost more people than Germans even though they had twice as many soldiers and tanks as nazis.
You romanoSNIPER didn't mention anything about Soviet war crimes. Stalin killed 20 million people in late 1930's, he deported millions of Europeans to Asia who soon died of hunger or ilnesses.
Razor745 3 years ago 2
Without lend-lease Stalin would have been been strung up by 1943.
Even the mighty T-34 is based on an American design by the Christie Company.
America is not perfect but America is not responsible for 100,000,000 deaths.
Compare a Soviet army pension with a German army pension and tell me who won the war.
aps454 3 years ago
And the US airforce pounded the German industry hard. 3 months during 1944 there was terrible weather in central Europe and the American airforce did not launch bombing runs over Germany. During these 3 months, Germany reached an industrial output unmatched the entire war. Then it cleared.
tubub 3 years ago
Comunism is like a condom you use it and is over also can be compared with a public bathroom with more shit is best.
sovetskysoyuuz 3 years ago
They were British and American aicraft.
Razor745 3 years ago
You can't really say that, we don't know how many supplies etc. Soviet Union had in 1941-1943.
But Lend-Lease definitely saved Britain.
Razor745 3 years ago
this video only shows that americans still live in the cold war
romanoSNIPER 3 years ago
"still live in the cold war"? Why, if I was too make a video of WWII would I "still live" in WWII? No, it affected all politics and led to several wars in the latter 20th century. Millions died because of Communism and anyone communist today who tries to dismiss that is ignorant. Mao's China, Stalin's Soviet Union, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Il's North Korea, Fidel's Cuba... This is Communism.
tubub 3 years ago
You still live in the Cold War because of your perceived notion that there actually is a "Red Threat", when in reality the rising superpower right now (China) hasn't been socialist for years, let alone communist, but has rather been capitalist ever since Den Xiaoping took leadership in the 70s. Your definition of communism is worrisome, and paritcularly your rapid denial of the mass worker's movement that took place in the 20th century is also concerning.
Kwornik 3 years ago
Who is it that wants to retake the lands of the soviet empire?
aps454 3 years ago
True.
crysis69 3 years ago