When Ireland Starved - Managing The Famine Part 1

[dezboss]

The famine was over 160 years ago, it is time to get over it now.

[XxxSaraxxX2k8bby]

ENGLISH OPPRESSION AND COLONIALISM, TO WHICH THEY ARE OBLIVIOUS AS USUAL TO ALL THEY HAVE DONE TO IRELAND ESPECIALLY THE NORTH AND ALSO TO THE REST OF THE WORLD !!!!!

[beghavd]

--queen victoria,s economist : "" but thus it will only kill about one million....that will scarcely be enough to do much good "" (page 5, free ebook irish holocaust)

[RawJobber]

Where was Rome in all of this? I couldn't help but notice some of the comments already posted. Whilst the Catholic church was building in Ireland they never once tried to help.

Catholic Church failed Ireland.

Nonetheless, that is not too defend the British Government as they were bang out of order. But, on the other hand, the British did open its borders to allow thousands upon thousands come into England, Scotland and Wales to live & work during the industrial revolution.

[StSimonMartyr]

The Catholic Church was dealing with the Reformation & wars breaking out all over Europe, remnants of the 100 & 30 year war, due to Luther and Calvin, both backed by Jewry.

Catholic Priests & Bishops had a bounty on their heads in Ireland, Mass was banned.

Irish couldnt own land, lease land, inherit land, keep arms, vote, practice law, educate children, etc etc

England with 100,000-200,000 Armed soldiers, Removed food At Gunpoint From Irish to make rent -to absentee English landlords

[123Owey]

the famines over....go home

[sirwilliamcan]

The Evil Empire committed crimes against people all over the world,but never a word of regret or apology from their government.I hope all those who played a part in the theft,rape,and murder of innocent free people all burn in Hell!

[huhuboyd123]

whats that song on 4:27?

[BlackIrish1916]

lets just say, when ireland was starving the english played no part, the potatoe was the only crop that was failed every other was still working barley etc etc,

[yam500]

When the Irish Catholic was hungry the Catholic Church were building huge Catherdrels in Ireland using foreign labor.

[finnbarrhagan]

where was rome? no priest or soldier ever died of famine. its happening again, but you cant see it because your not hungry enough (yet) to open your eyes. first time in human history where the poor have become fatter than the rich...

[weitzfc]

the greatest problem in the u.s. and canada, during the famine, was what to do with the corpes of the dead. filthy, starving, and naked, they about scared the protestant america to death. my great grandmother knew all the old irish in the family.she was told as a child not to ask about ireland. her grandmother had seen her brothers die on the passage to america. in her old age she finally start ed to talk about ireland. no ceremony or priest, just a gunny sack and rocks to weigh them down.

[RosieT20]

I'm English, and ashamed.

[692ALBANNACH]

don;t worry you all have white skin privilage

[redasho1]

From the 15th through the 19th centuries, successive English monarchies and governments enacted laws designed to suppress and destroy Irish manufacturing and trade. These repressive Acts, coupled with the Penal Laws, reduced the Irish people to "nakedness and beggary" in a very direct and purposeful way. The destitute Irish then stood at the very brink of the bottomless pit. When the potato blight struck in 1845, it was but time for the final push.

[redasho1]

For their own selfishness millions of people died..There was more then enough crops to save the millions who starved to death but the English decided that if Kids and adults having to die a horrible and cruel death was a small price to pay for to fill there pockets and get power... that was grand for them...R.I.P to all that were MURDERD by the selfish hands of the English between 1845 - 1850 xxx

[bouse23]

england should be made face the evils that their empire commited the same way that the germans were made face up to what the nazis did this also goes for others like the french as well

[AnUalgarg]

This British policy also deliberately inflicted on the Irish People conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction within the meaning of Article II(c) of the Convention. Therefore, from 1845-50 the British government knowingly pursued a policy of mass starvation in Ireland which constituted acts of Genocide against the Irish People within the meaning of Article II(b) and (c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention.

[AnUalgarg]

From 1845-50, The British government pursued a policy of mass starvation in Ireland with the intent to destroy in substantial part the national, ethnical and racial group known as the Irish People. This British policy caused serious bodily and mental harm to the Irish People within the meaning of Genocide Convention Article II(b).

[jimshady06]

there was a potato blight but there was no famine in ireland!!! we had food and lots of it, the british shipped it all away! famine did not happen here, genocide did! 6 million jews exterminated, 14 million irish!

[kennyclayton1]

My great great grandparents came to england from ireland in the late 1870,s

so i was born in england like my mother,grandmother and greatgrandmother.

instead of blaming us ,blame my great great grandparents.

GOD BLESS THEM.

[TheApothecaryMan]

@kennyclayton1 I dont think people would blame the english "I certianly wouldn't" I would blame the elitist who held power,I believe the average working man in england would have been horrowfied by what their political masters were doing,people tend to generalise on these boards when talking about a specific countries or races

[GuuTuube]

You would think that all of us Irish starved, but in fact most of us survived. How do you think a million people got away to America while their neighbours starved? By hiding food when they came begging at the door. But we have chosen to forget that.

[ukpoliticalmiddle]

Why did the English hate the Irish? This may be the perception, but since 95% of Brits probably couldn't point to Ireland on a map I doubt that it was true. The British Government, who behaved badly towards almost everyone, saw the Irish as British. Nothing is quite as it seems in history.

[shylence]

Propoganda from the Tudor reconquest started it. Stepped up during Cromwells time. They were viewed like all foreigners viewed each other: with suspicion. Then when the Industrial revolution happened they suffered what many economic migrants suffered today. Thats brief. And yes 95% of brits can point it out on a map tbh lol its usally next to Britain in the weather report.. lol

[spacemonkey103]

@ukpoliticalmiddle They didn't hate us really. They just loved themselves so much that all Irish, Africans, Indians etc. etc. were seen as inferior to them and best regarded as a mere ecomic resource. We were so worthless to them we were not even worth "hate"

[shadowkitty56]

@ukpoliticalmiddle Really? Where do you think the term teague came from? Answer: the Irish phrase Tadhg an dá thaobh. It was a slur against Irish Catholics that began sometime around the Ulster Plantations. It was known and used in other parts of the Empire: John Adams used it in his statements during the Boston Massacre. A mutation of the same word exists today and was on the lips of men during the N Ireland Troubles: Taig.

[shadowkitty56]

@ukpoliticalmiddle Second, the key to the animosity was Catholicism. Not until Daniel O'Connell was it legitimate for a Catholic to hold office or enjoy the rights of other citizens. Since the reign of at least Elizabeth I to the 1820's the political class and clergy had plenty of time to demonize "popery" and establish one religion as superior to another. As the Reformation had passed Ireland by it was thus all too easy for the British to project their prejudice upon the masses.

[TheAmazingMrRiks]

@ukpoliticalmiddle true - Ireland was seen as being British. If anyone cared to look to see what was happening to working people in Britian at the same time they'd see the lower classes were left to rot in workhouses.

[yellowwitch1]

@ukpoliticalmiddle they didn't hate them, they lived of their misery, that's different. Irish crops were all exported to feed the fat british, why bother about the irish? nobody is forced to care for others when you can just take advantage, right?

[seonidh]

@yellowwitch1 actually no, the scots went through a famine at the same time, so much so that people were put on to coffin ships and sent to canada, america and australia. The highland potato famile hit scotland hard. The famine would have been as hard there but if not for the cruel twist of the highland/lowland clearences and ethnic forced removal of the people.

[digitalpaddy]

no wonder the brits always point the finger at germany ...hopefully they wont cope on they were duped a second time its all bollox

[robert1884]

It's elitism. They didn't simply hate Irish Catholics or Africans, it was their belief that they as English were superior to Irish, Africans, (and many others), in the eyes of God.

I agree Romello. Especially in the US people tend to focus on Africans as having been the only race upon which slavery was committed, when history classes SHOULD show the whole story.

[yellowwitch1]

@robert1884 Even today british are elitist pricks even towards their own population. only 7% of population can afford private education and yet 70% of doctors or finance directors for example have been privately educated. britain is a country of bullshit!

[chetansingh2006]

Indian and irish have alot in common Yippers

[yam500]

@chetansingh2006 you better believe pal lol lol lol

[chetansingh2006]

@robert1884 i feel very sad for the Irish people dying of hunger in that hard cold and wet land with love from India

[Romello4u]

Ok, so the Irish were made slaves to the British. Then why does not history paint it as such? Africans are always stigmatized as having been slaves to Anglos. A more balanced true about slavery in this world might lead to a better education and more compassion.

[spacemonkey103]

I think serfdom wold be a better word than slavery. Subservient through land ownweship laws and financial structures, that tied them to landlords, rather than outright ownership. But a subservient and controlled working clas all the same.

[TheApothecaryMan]

@Romello4u its called propoganda & misinformation and seeing as the education system is geard toward making the elitists look like they done all they could then its no wonder people dont know

[fuhmeregan]

Who can answer this?: Why of why did the English hate the Catholic Irish so much?? Any replies greatly appreciated.

[yatudlabiereicit]

you should watch irish history here on youtube just searh it. i think it has something to do with when henry VIII seperated from the church ...go take a look

[ShaunxBrown]

hello,id love to know that also..thats what i always ask myself..maybe it was to destroy us like they did to africa...but still we ask why ??

[SteveOSpielberg]

The English gave even more food to Ireland only it ended up in the hands of the Church who gave this food to their pigs the Irish Catholic Church and Southren Politicians are scum and are self hating Irish people who do not care for their own country people this is still true today and this is what gives rise and suspicion

[kbcmighty]

youve just made that up . Ill point out again there was no famine in Ireland , not a single irish leader appealed for food aid to be sent to Ireland . The country was full of food . The British governemnt follwoed a Malthusian form of economics , which determined that if " surplus" poor died through hunger then the lot of the remainder would be vastly improved . Thats what they were doing . Deliberately Killing millions to civilise the remainder in a victorian social experiment . Darwinism.

[celtsbhoy88]

@kbcmighty your right there was no famine, famine is a shortage of food, but there was no shortage of food, just a potato blight, no english scottish or prodestant settlers died. just irish catholic's, and prodestant leaders offered many catholic to convert to prodestant and they would be feed.

[hdp26]

Because you are catholic as spaniards an empire who was going to smash the unholy britards, those who changed the faith of a whole country just because their king Richard VIII(ak the fat bastard) who married 6 times , being an absolutist, broke with catholic churc just to do that so he founded anglicism so he was the pope,erasing monasteries, and swallowed into his belly Wales.

So you irish people remained and struggled against imposition thru the centuries

[fuhmeregan]

Over a million people fled to Canada and the U.S. - good for them!!!!!! And laurels and laurels to those that helped the stricken who could not go.

[ErnstBecker]

Greed managed the famine. Ireland starved and died to the sum of over 1.5 million. Sir Robert Peel's name lives, as police are referred to as , either "Peelers or Bobbies".

[bacabu30]

England invaded Ireland and took Irish land against the Irish people's will. The crops then grown on this stolen land wouldn't go to feed the Irish. Instead, the British exported under armed guard this food grown in Ireland while the Irish starved and died. The Irish weren't allowed fish either because to fish in the rivers you needed a licence and the Irish would never be given one by the British. The Irish also weren't allowed within 2 miles of the sea, meaning they couldn't eat seafood either

[kwakedesigns]

@bacabu30

Not even a prawn sandwich?

Thats terrible

[claudelebel55]

when it comes to economic interests, not much has changed has it. Greed is greed whatever the era.

[thtktgrl]

The guy talking at the very beginning sounds like Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

[stephenmfdr]

scum no-matter your politics this killed thousands for benifits of a greedy few .

i live in britain and all that i know are shamed at our actions during this period

[ErnstBecker]

BRAVO !

[NaomiC2365]

britian sucks

[gerrymoke]

not a bit of wonder theres a C IR A long may they fight the cliftonville red army is behind them fuck linfied

[Laoch111]

The English government exported food from Ireland during the famine. Truly appalling. They got away with all their crimes. Where is the justice?

[vinnyhoags]

In the other world.

[torrstein]

the greedy english government is still corrupt to the core

[austinwrk]

likewise the Irish Government TODAY too :)

[vinnyhoags]

Judgement day for all.

[RunescapeOnlineTV]

the greedy english goverment in the 1840s was corrupt to the core!!

[Proximo2001]

One word.

Genocide

[rathdeort2008]

Shameful. The greatest Empire on Earth let a million citizens die barely 300 miles from London. India, no stranger to famine, sent more aid than the spiteful UK government. Remember Ireland was, vis the 1801 Act, a fully integrated part of the UK. The first duty of the government is to their people, not if they're Irish it seemed.

I'll say it again, shameful!

[celtsbhoy88]

and still to this day the north is occupied by this goverment, and still get second class treatment.

[wgordon8]

celtsbhoy88

Which government would that be the one that's been running West Belfast by the bullet and the ballot box for the past forty years.

[josparkes]

The shame on the government is beyond belief. Simply atrocious. Poem A government without pity From a town to a city The people existed and bled Their dignity eroded, and pride all but gone Were but slaves tied until they were dead But the leaders of England with hearts made of stone Said let them get on with their cries We'll let them starve further, they really don't matter We'll just quiet them down with more lies. Jo Sparkes Norfolk 14/12/2008

[josparkes]

The suffering caused by the govt was a stain on England's character, and caused the tragedy, in Ireland.

The indifference shown was unbelievable !

Trevelyan - an english celt. more like an English Lucifer

Jo Sparkes

Norfolk

5/11/2008

[chetansingh2006]

I am so proud that India helped the Irish with ample food surely showed our generosity to help others, which we need to revive.

[edinburgwatcher]

After death judgement.

[mikearthur21]

that Herbert Spencer sure was a jackass