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  • Still struggling to get cross-rhythms right... Any tips or tricks?

  • @jelekbanget123 pick 2 or 3 of the hardest measures (consecutive, of course). use a metronome. play as slowly as possible, then increase the tempo in tiny increments. once you ace those, the rest will fall into place.

  • @bbdhrggl ok thanks!

  • THAAAAAAAAAAKNS

  • I like ur tutorials. I got a question. i wanna learn: Schubert moment musical allergro vivace. Do u have a tutorial of that one? and if not could u make one of it? i would be very greatfull.

  • @asdasd2410 answer and how to make requests are both in the vd link :)

  • damn!its hard! but i wont give up!

  • Hi. I would just like to say thank you for everything that you have done. During rougher times in my life I decided to pick up piano and you have helped me learn countless pieces. Thank you so much for having impacted me tremendously in a positive way!

  • This piece is beautiful but i can't play it =.=

  • @MyMusicmanic ..... yet  (finished your sentence for you)

  • @MyMusicmanic same for me my teacher she can't , but i knowlegde for learn this piece -_-

  • HI!! your tuorial helped me a lot! now i can play all the song, but I am now having problems with the pedals! I don´t know when to use it, can you help me? regards!

  • @FranciscoEldahuk may I presume you read music? imslp (best classical score site) has several versions, you can see from the thumbnails that some have pedal markings.

  • @bbdhrggl HI! thanks for your answer! I can read music but not as complex as this one. I have tried to read the score but I find it very difficult, cause I don´t know for each pedal marking, where in the song I am

  • sheet music for this piece at sheetsearch . com

  • @Ir0nman86 the best place for classical scores is imslp dot org

  • Left hand, you have a wrong rhythem, you stay to long on the highest note.

  • First comment was so funny "I gave up" hehe.

  • @bbdhrggl, haha although I may not do what you suggest, I think you make a good point. I just finished nocturne op 9-2 by Chopin, maybe I can do a couple things that are just a little harder then come to this in about a year or so. :)

  • @bbdhrggl, oh really? Thats concerning. I would really like to learn this song because I do like to challenge myself but I have no teacher to give me guidelines so I've just been learning whatever sounds good.

  • @Bluetooth199 there are so many SUPER (and perhaps better) classical pieces than this (all levels), why rush to this? give yourself something to look forward to :)

  • @bbdhrggl I've only been playing piano for a year, so I'm giving myself three months to be able to play this well all the way through. As for practicing, my time is limited so I usually only play for maybe a half hour a day.

  • @Bluetooth199 uh oh. students do not play this until their 6th year. jumping the gun does more harm than good. learning ANYTHING well requires time and effort to build a solid foundation. there are no shortcuts.

  • @Bluetooth199 Saying something like that is not only completely obsurd, but it's insulting to ALL Extremist pianists if you even THINK you can get anywhere near this ETUDE after only 1 year of playing piano without a teacher?

  • @MrJensybob It is completely possible. Some people may have a much faster learning rate than you think.

  • @Bluetooth199 I´ve been playing the piano for 10 years now (more Jazz, but still), and it took me 3 months to learn it. I´m not used to classical pieces, but I can promise you that it´s not a good idea to start so early with this piece.

  • How long do you think it will take the average person to learn and "master" this song?

  • @Bluetooth199 it depends. my standards are high. few "master" concert level pieces. I was satisfied to reach 70% of a Rubinstein performance. when I learned this piece, I probably practiced 3 weeks at 1/2 hour a day. which is obviously inadequate.

    the top HS piano students we know practice 4+ hours a day, not all the same piece of course. mastering a piece could take them months or even a year. every note has to be perfect. touchwise. beware however: we who seek perfection are never satisfied

  • lol, chopin just had to make the left hand in sixth tuplets so its alot easier for us to play

  • @DickKnowsBest I have in the past played most of the classical pieces I made tutorials for. But there is "playing", and there is "playing". From your comment, you know what I mean. Perfection is impossible and not a goal, yet, my playing was never to my standards. So it lingered as a hobby.

    The slow tempo and pc editing makes sightreading a breeze. Thus the daily output.

  • This is amazing. How long did it take you just to get LH and RH right together?

  • @JJTetelepta this simple question is difficult to answer! :)

  • am i supposed to play the 7th measure the same way as the 1st one?

    and which notes to you play at the same time in measure 6 and measure 9? PLEASE HELP ME. Thank you so much for this tutorial.

  • I wish I could see you play it in full speed.

  • @TheTimaryArt me too ;) you know piano is not my line, right?

  • @bbdhrggl I remember u saying that somewhere. cuz i thought to myself "oh that's too bad cuz she plays really well" I bow to ur skills!! mind i ask when your birthday is? not the year if you don't want to say your age.

  • @TheTimaryArt did i answer you already this morning before rushing out to the beach? see? I'm having a senior moment :)

  • @bbdhrggl ooooh woooow ma'am u're truly inspiring

    i thought i was late in replying to ur msg, thanks!!

  • it sounds totally different being very slow!! and i like it

  • Soooooo... I've spent about 1 and 1/2 hours today trying to learn this song... I can play the melody and the left hand at just under twice the correct speed without much problem. The problem is... I don't seem to understand this rhythm. In theory it's a basic 6/8 rhythm. Sigh... I can play both hands together with little problem, but I feel the song start to fall apart after a few seconds because I know the my rhythm is off. Any advice?

  • @BustTheNotes looking at the printed music will help a lot, because you can see how the LH and RH notes line up, and the important accent markings. the score is free at imslp. if you don't read music, just look at one measure at a time. not the entire score. or else it will be intimidating.

  • Thanku so so so much for this!

  • im curious to see your face?

  • please don't learn what this woman does with her right-hand fingers between 0:32-0:45, it's unnecessary difficult and not the most beautiful way to place the fingers.

  • @mekornilol fyi dear, this is the editor's fingering. also, do you realize each edition has different fingering?

  • @mekornilol shows you don't know crap about fingering! y don't you put ur own video with 'perfect fingering'. Troll.

  • @blankkyx I know it already, go learnt it yourself u dyke

  • @mekornilol Oh yes. I´m learning this part ...5-3-2-3-2-1... and so on.

  • O M G......... I am seriously soooooooooooooooo happy that i found this channel with all of these piano tutorials set up like this.... made my year!

  • how cool!

  • Only now I get how hard this is.

    amazing

  • very helpful, I've been trying to butcher through this song for a couple of weeks now.

  • I've been playing piano for a year now. after i leanred fur elise i decided i would tackle this, and after about 5 months of practice and watching this video ive learned the entirety of this piece! thank you so much!

  • @writermoma you amazed me :)

  • @writermoma 5 MONTHS?!! OH MY GOD MAN!!!!! THATS LONG!

  • @KadeshLeMort I learned how to play the entire piece in about 2 months (i dont read music, had to memorize it off this video) and for the past 3 months ive perfected it. id say im doing just fine.

  • @KadeshLeMort would you like a video as proof?

  • @KadeshLeMort concert artists can spend years perfecting a piece

  • @KadeshLeMort it took me like almost a year to learn it entirely when i was like 12

  • @KadeshLeMort mate I've been playing just over a year now and if I could play this piece period I'd be chuffed

  • @KadeshLeMort What long? Everyone is not as good players as you are. Even though I have been playing for longer time than "writermoma" I'm sure it would take me at least half a year to just learn both hands and get them together...

  • @writermoma what kinda prodigy are you, this is like one of the hardest songs I've ever heard and never even imagined playing it yet, I've been playing for 9years, and I'm fairly good, or so they say..

  • @BloodyBloodPeker there are plenty of songs tougher than this one, i promise if you give it a shot youll learn this in no time! if you wanna see me play it (i warn you its bad video/sound quality and i mess up at the end a bit) check out /vakskates . its my other account

  • @writermoma well, could you possibly tell me songs that are harder?

  • @BloodyBloodPeker yes, (this is my other channel), virtually all his etudes are, id say some of his waltzs are too. ummmm la campanella is leagues harder than this and alot of listz etude are, rachmaninoff has some hard etudes

  • @BloodyBloodPeker and there are some far more difficult than those he mentioned, such as works by Godowsky, Prokofiev, Scriabin, Ravel,... the list goes on

  • I really apprechiate your vids.

  • i love that musical peice but it didnt sound like fantasie impromtu

  • I mean, 30.

  • I could, so far, play up to measure 3:25 !!!!

  • thank you!! you made it more simple!

  • This is exactly what we look for when we want tutorials, this structure is magnificent :)

  • mmmmmmmh very good tutorial but i think it´s impossible without the sheets! i play this piece by myself! i has been taken me 3 months to learn it.

  • in measures 13 to 16...you did the accent with fifth finger aren't you??

  • @vourier the accents are marked in the score, do you have it? it's free on imslp

  • @bbdhrggl yes i have....it should be on the first finger...

  • @vourier m13-16 and m17-21 accent differently. my tutorials illustrates the notes and counting only. almost everything is loud or I get complaints that the notes are not clear enough. so do what the score says.

  • i cant play it with two hands!!!! arghh its not fairrr.

  • @CallMeChanii you can divide each measure into two parts in which there are 4 notes for the right hand and 3 for the left.You should play 1st notes of the right and left hands together,then 2nd note of the right hand,2nd left,3rd right,3rd left and 4th right

    right 1 2 3 4

    left 1 2 3

  • awesome tutorial but a depressin gperformer and person...shame people like you know how to perform this piece of art, and what at the most, know how to teach it...and it's actually under-watched because every person did not ask you to whom you uploaded it for...and of course every person does not care to whom you uploaded it for..

  • Thank you sooo much for this tutorial. It has helped me so much. Without it I'd have spent days, weeks or month to filter the melody right. And your hands are pretty!

  • Gracias

  • creepy hands

  • @gug71123 lol, do you realize your comment says nothing about me but TONS about you?

  • @bbdhrggl it's just a joke don't take it seriously

  • @gug71123 see the lol? I don't, but perhaps you should? because it is a good little life lesson ;)

  • @gug71123 The hands doesn't matter. It's the music that does it.

  • tutorials are never any good but this was amazing! Thank you soo much! I just started playing the piece and want to learn it without my piano teachers help so when i learn it, i can surprise her at the end of my recital in June. This is really a great help. I really appreciate it!!!!!

  • Ah! Thank you so much! I am really glad that you made this tutorial. I couldn't play this song at all because I had super bad hand coordination with two hands playing at the same time. This clarified everything perfectly. It is really helpful! :D

  • It's unfortunate that this video has been so severely under-watched. What an excellent tutorial! It's helped me more than you can imagine in mastering that tedious polyrhythm. Thank you so much!

  • @pierre2412 smiling... it's actually over-watched. i made it for one person, the one who requested it. but thanks! :)

  • Awesome!

  • very helpful!

  • @bbdhrggl because you said five editions, I checked. I can't believe after all this time, you are the first to notice my errors! THANKS. I will make an annotation and credit you with the correction.

    Ha, where was my mind?

  • I think she is playing the wrong notes in the left hand at measure 10. She is playing C#, G#, A#, E, C#, G# when it is supposed to be C#, G#, A#, E, A#, G#.

    Then she plays E, G#, C#, E, C#, G# when it’s supposed to be played E, G#, A#, C#, A#, G#. Big difference.

    Other than that, excellent tutorial.

  • @dj3rdegreebernie1982 You are absolutely correct. Sorry for my doubting you before. Will post annotation.

  • @bbdhrggl Not a problem at all. You do an excellent job. It would have been immensely easier for me to learn FI if I had the ability to watch someone like yourself slow it down. Continue the good work!

  • its really difficult to get the rythm argh.

  • i only can do the right hand one, i cnt du the left hand its so harddd and fustratingg arghhh

  • Hi, did you learn this song by playing slowly in the tempo like that? Or did you have to master both hands separately than bring it together. because I heard practicing polyrhythmic scales would help, but I want to know if there can be another way.

    thanks for upload!

  • @DelinArt i'm not a real piano teacher. many teachers recommend separate hands first. I believe it is up to the individual. I practiced tons of scales/arpeggios when young. i never learned to play this piece well, because I "fought" the notated fingering. That proved to be my stumbling block forever. Shows the editors know best. Playing slowly with the metronome, then gradually increasing the tempo is always a good way to practice. Good luck :)

  • @DelinArt try practicing like this for example in measure 5 play only C# E E E of the left hand and right hand normally, that way you are only playing the notes that go with the right hand. This will help you get a feel for what needs to be accented.

    Slowly add the between notes and before you know it the poly-rhythm will make more sense. Playing with a metronome might help too. I'm also in the process of learning this piece so I feel your pain.

    Hope this helps

  • It's... so awesome. It sounds like a Zelda dungeon song!

    Just kidding. Great :) I couldn't even play this at half this speed >.<

  • thanks for posting, I hate score reading so this is the only way for me - visually and by ear.

  • thanx yo

  • In the Kindest of Words sir, I'd never lie about my Mom like That....ever....I've Dedicated myself to learning this song for Her last Moments whether you post a tutorial or not but it'd really ease my learning experience if you did follow through on the tutorial...I can Understand Why you feel that way over my Comment due to Previous idiots who've Done things like that but i can assure you I'm not Lying about my Mom bbdhrggl...Please inform me if you do Choose to do the tutorial,Thank you

  • @jammielaplace I am so sorry about your mom. I am working on the Ocean right this minute, finished up to measure 36 (of 83). Playing it at a pace to fit 15 minutes. Each 32nd note is at 89 bpm. Is that going to be too fast to learn from? Stop me before I keep going.

  • @bbdhrggl Any luck with the Ocean etude from Chopin Tutorial?, Dont mean to Harrass you About it jus Let me Know if You Decide to Put it Up please, Thank You

  • @jammielaplace I have been waiting for your answer. Did you read my question to you?

  • @jammielaplace uploaded today. good luck with it. think in groups of threes, not in fours.

  • Great tutorial! Truly helped me. Do you think you can do a tutorial on Chopin's Op 25 no. 12 also called Ocean? Thank you very much

  • @otaka732 2nd request, will move it up the list

  • @bbdhrggl i Totally Agree with Otaka732, I really wanna Learn this Piece for My Mom who is Sick w\ Cancer and Adores This Song..I'd be Much appreciative if You could Make a Video Tutorial on Chopin's Etude op25 no12..Thank you

  • @jammielaplace sorry, I rather you be lying about your mom to get me to do the tutorial. Kids have done that before. Yet, I'll see whether I find time to do it tomorrow. It is a long piece.

  • i cant thank you enough for this.

  • Thanks so much :)

  • Measure 21 to 24 - You are so lucky to have such beautiful, long, thin fingers. I have so much trouble there.

    I have another question on my channel that I will ask you privately, if you don't mind please because this song drives me insane because of the 8 against 6. Ugh! I can do it slowly, but once I get up the speed, the hands want to play together. Ugh! I love Chopin, but hate playing what he has written, although beautiful.

  • @lllllllllllllll88 it is actually more difficult to play such 8 against 6 sections slowly. the fact you can play it slowly means you will be able to play it fast. when I practice new pieces, I use a metronome to increase the speed a tiny bit at a time, it works.

  • @bbdhrggl - Thank you so much, and you are so correct. I need to be more patient as I mentioned in my email. Increase the speed a "tiny" bit at a time is key. I increase the speed too much because I can't wait to get it to tempo and it usually falls apart. Thank you again for your assistance.

    And also, I loved what you said about if people think their hands are not for piano, and the video example you used of the guy playing with his feet. I always say that and you woke me up. lol

  • You made it, Oh my god you rule. You are truly the best on youtube. Thank you so very much.

  • I've always wanted to learn this song! :D thank you! :D

  • wow awesome, btw i know itsa pretty hard song but have you ever tried to do Bach partita nº 2? it would be great

  • @dabeatdurand fun to play. will add to list.

  • really? wow thanks

  • @dabeatdurand  done ;0

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