WPC 2006 Wu vs. Alcano

[JustAVideo1]

Who is the player at the beginning of the video explaining bridging and shots? He is a snooker player isn't he?

[Fattyzilla]

Why the fuck is the top rated comments have to do with snooker vs pool again? These 2 guys are both bloody pool players

[kofighters]

@Fattyzilla they are the same guy lol, but yea i bet he is a pool player

[Fattyzilla]

@kofighters Shit, I did not even notice that lol

[MrKevinb1989]

After this tournament, more and more players use soft breaks

[DistendedPerinium]

This video shows exactly why I dislike this game. I have never seen any other game where you can lose and not have even had an opportunity to act on the field.

[ibm88]

@DistendedPerinium It's alternating break format (7:08), so Wu broke in the next game.

[ps2buhidma]

even i can play like a pro in pool. am a snooker player

pool is easy cuz of the smaller table but its just as hard at clearing the table

and its the same u NEED good position.

[ribhkum]

why you guys find this so hard to understand ? do you agree that a person could take up pool and run a table with about a years practice ?? clearing the table in snooker would probably take the average player about 10 years ? why ? cos it's fuckin harder thats why !!!

[vincentwu]

@ribhkum hey i will agree with you that it is WAY more difficult to clear a rack of snooker than 9 ball. but of course, there are many more balls, and the colored balls are spotted, I dont see what the comparison here is. Running a rack of 9 ball is fairly easy, and no, i think it takes more than a years practice to run a rack of 9 ball consistently. then u can also take straight pool for example, you would need 10 years of practice to run 200 balls.

[9ballalex]

what a bad luck in the break........

[Trzelpy]

Snooker is different than pool :) If u play snooker, u can play pool, if u play pool u cant play snooker. Snooker needs more skills in different things than pool.

[TASK104]

@Trzelpy  Obviously you don't realize the difference between "playing pool" and just potting from anywhere in a simple game like 9-ball.

[iannie007]

idiots arguing snooker on a pool video

[aznelf13]

friggin crowd has no class, cheering onty for their countrymen

[clayton1979]

guess you dont know filipinos very well

[coldfacedkiller17]

i was in 4th year high school when i watched this match

[kevycanavan]

look right soccer is far harder than rugby and cricket is much much more difficult than rounders...

different games I like both but ejoy watching 14.1 and 9-ball a million times more than snooker which, while a game of incredible skill; unless ronnie is playing can be very very boring.

[TASK104]

The idea that the top pool players are less accurate cueists than top snooker players is just a misconception. Pool players aren't always trying to split the heart of the pocket, instead they are playing to a compromise where the ball will be accepted and they can most easily attain their desired position. When a top pool player plays a shot to one side of the pocket or the other, or even hit a little bit of rail first, they are still sending the ball on the exact path that they intended to.

[TASK104]

Just because snooker is less forgiving to cueing inaccuracies, it doesn't mean that pool players don't have to develop the same level of accuracy in order to play the game at a high level. I mean, the top players in ANY cue sport play with total control and cueing accuracy. The reason why top players can't easily transition from game to game is because of a lack of knowledge and experience in the other cue sports, not because of a lack of talent or cueing ability.

[blueiseverything]

your a good debater.

[alectric230]

@TASK104 True, there are a few other differences, the size of the balls means that different strokes and the application of side is different between pool and snooker. In pool you are much more likely to use punch and force follow than in snooker. In nine ball for example you can play position by always playing to the middle of the table, in snooker you need position on the black so playing cut shots to the bottom corners is imperative. Also the sqare cut pockets changes aiming into pockets

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 no you can't always play position by putting the cue ball in the middle of the table. this is when your ignorance becomes really obvious. when you run out, you think 3-5 balls ahead. sure you might always have an attempt or see a ball by placing the cue ball in the middle, but with the angle you have, you may not be able to find another way to put it back in the middle of the table.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu im not saying that every shot can be made from the middle of the table but pointing out the diiference in positional play and option taking between pool and snooker. however, show me a shot which is on from the middle of the table where the cue ball cant be brought back to the middle of the table

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 but in all means, i respect the game of snooker, and im just asking all you snooker fans to respect pool whether it is 9 ball 8 ball or 14.1 or one pocket. there are good and bads about each game, but both players are playing the same game, so even if a game is "easier" it applies to both players. if ur playing at the professional level, then it comes down a lot to breaking and safety playing (everyone can run out an open table)

[alectric230]

@vincentwu You seem to be making many false assumptions....That I think snooker is "harder" than pool (in whatever form) Snooker fans dont respect pool (players) That I don't know 14.1 That I am ignorant and egotistical That I am biased, oh the irony That I don't know how to play position

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 I apologize for making some assumptions. But I am not gonna take back what I said about your poor positional play fundamentals when you told me that you look one ball ahead. in 9 ball, u NEED to land on the right side of the ball, especially early in the rack. In 8 ball, u NEED to run the rack backwards starting from the 8, looking for the easiest pattern. If there are not good outs available, then you try to create one by playing safeties.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu im not saying that every shot can be made from the middle of the table but pointing out the diiference in positional play and option taking between pool and snooker. By far the most common postional shot in nine ball is made to and from the middle of the table, including the break where the idea is to leave the cue ball in the middle for a likely shot on the 1 or 2.

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 i understand what u were saying about leaving the cue ball in the middle of the table. however, u have used 9 ball as a synonym for pool, and that is incorrect. have u heard of straight pool (14.1)? positional play is definitely not try to leave the cue ball in the middle. very similar to snooker, but u have to manufacture a break shot to continue to your next rack. hey i am not saying snooker is easy, but i think u have been biased to try to make it seem more difficult than it is

[alectric230]

@vincentwu u have used 9 ball as a synonym for pool. Really when did I do that? I think what you will find is I used 9 ball as synonym for 9 ball. Yes there are different types of pool, which all have slightly different tactical requirements. This is mostly due to the break and the amount of balls on the table. 9 ball has 6 less balls on the table and you shoot at the same object ball there is less space to hide so is a somewhat agressive game. Hard break, run out, if not safety

[alectric230]

@vincentwu 8 ball on the other hand more balls more room to hide one set each. No 3 foul rule therefore less aggressive more position dependant because there are more balls to negotiaite eg. It is much harder to make a 2 or 3 rail positional shot. with say 13 balls lefdt on the table. 14.1 15 balls. Any ball can be object ball therefore more safety orientated.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu no when you run out you look 3-5 balls ahead I look any number of shots into the future if there are no problem balls I don't look ahead at all just the ball I'm shooting and position for the next ball If there is a problem ball I look ahead to that and find a way to get position whether that be by splitting the cluster playing a carom or playing safe whatever works option taking in any cue sport needs to be fluid even if you look ahead and have a good plan you might miss position

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 first of all, it is practical knowledge that u need to look at least 3 balls ahead in 9 ball. being on the wrong side of the ball can easily mean the end to your run. say u are on the one, u need to play position for the two so that it is on the right side to set up for the 3 using a natural angle. once u make the 1, then u think 2,3,4. there are many ways to play position for the ball, but using natural angle is the safest way

[alectric230]

@vincentwu That depends on what you mean by "look ahead". When people learn to play pool the first and only objective is to pocket the object ball. Then they learn that it is necessary to position for another ball. Natural angles are learnt, the application of side, doubles and caroms are learnt etc As they progress then the application of tactics becomes paramount. Which balls in what order, when to play safe. All of which depends on the capabilities of the cueist..

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 i've never said that you need to spend a lot of time to plan 3 balls ahead. a lot of it is obvious. which side gets u an easier positional play to the next, but u need to see the next 3 balls, and with enough experience this will come natural. i hope u can understand why u need to look at 3 balls ahead, instead of setting up a shot at a time. if you leave a shot straight in, u may not be able to get to the next ball.

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 if you get a ball on the wrong side, you may not have any paths to get to the next ball. this is why u need to think at least 3 balls in advanced as well as looking for problem balls before u start to run the rack.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu Then after a period of time the conscious act of looking ahead is replaced by seeing all of the shots at the same time and really only focusing on the problem balls. There is always at least 1 crucial shot per rack whether it is a long pot, hard cut, good stroke, hard bridging, lots of spin they are the shots that need to be concentrated on. If you spend your whole time thinking about what you are going to do next then the chances of making a mistake are greatly amplified

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 in snooker, u dont "need" to position for the black ball. you do what is convenient and adjust to the layout. plus you always have a couple free red balls out of the way and it opens up a lot of options when you get off line on the colored ball. i am not trying to say that 9 ball is a better game, but u should reassess both games before you put your huge ego into discussion.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu obviously there are other options but the black is the best option given its higher point value and close proximity to the reds for spliting reds of the pack for break-building.This incuding a number of other factors like the size of the balls, size of the table, the nap, the way the balls are generally positioned on the table, the ease of safety play, the number of balls on the table, and therefore the amount of open space all change option taking between pool and snooker

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 sure, to get a high run in snooker, ud go from red to black then red to black. however, if u are out of line, u have 5 other balls as insurance. in straight pool, if u get out of line, u will have to take a difficult safety or a difficult shot, where if u miss, your opponent can run 100 balls and u lose the game. another pool game that u may never have heard of is one pocket, look it up, u will be be surprised how difficult positional plays/safeties are.

[alectric230]

@vincentwu Insurance yes but so what that may still mean that if you miss one of those balls or miss a snooker then the other player could depending on the amount of balls left snooker you to death or run the balls and win the game (or not) Each situation is different. You can't tell me that every time you get off line in 14.1 it is more dangerous than getting off line in snooker, there aretoo many variables. The quality of opposition, the table lay out, the score, pressure etc

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 sorry, I was referring to professional players. a lot of times in 14.1 games, people never return to the table. but i will agree with what u are trying to that. that is in fact the point i'm trying to make. u can't really argue for a better game, many factors and variables are there. for example, theres a lot of luck in 9 ball where 2 players can't run a rack of open table in 9 ball. whoever misses towards the end loses.

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 i apologize for making so many assumptions. i will try to discuss rationally, im glad u are taking the time to read my posts. but please let me know whether u do try to put the cue ball on the right side of the ball in 9 ball. that is pretty much what i mean by looking at 3 balls ahead

[alectric230]

@vincentwu I assume you mean correct side of the object ball. In general, yes. However, I don't necessarily think in those terms while approaching the shot. It is more like OK for the next shot I need to be here so the cue ball needs to be in this area. But I stress this is not conscious decision making. My brain is fully capable of taking into account all the variables like table layout, stroke types amount of spin etc. All I focus on is the job at hand, pot ball and position for the next shot

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 Yea, correct side as in drawing a line from the object ball to the intended pocket and putting the cue ball on the right side. I understand what you are saying and I think you've mistaken me for saying planning ahead as a very conscious and focused effort. But either way, when you are on the one ball, you will need to know where the 3 ball is relative to the 2. If you agree on that, then we're on the same track, just didn't define it well.

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 However, there are more difficult layouts that I would, or even top professional players need to decide where they want the cue ball. This is why most top professionals don't just shoot in 5 seconds. Sorry for falsely assuming many things about you, I didn't mean to. I was just pretty annoyed at the fact that there are a lot of ignorant people that argue one way or another without putting a good thought into it.

[vincentwu]

@alectric230 I don't have a strong opinion about any games. They all require different strategies and tactics, but for sure an open 8 ball table with most of the balls near a pocket and off the rails is the easiest thing to run out, next to an open rack of 9 ball. One-pocket however, has probably the biggest requirement of cue ball precision. Straight pool requires a lot of cue ball control, but not too many advanced ones, more about executing them consistently, similar to snooker.

[FateAtYourWindow]

@TASK104 the Bolt example is extreme, but it emphasizes the point. for Bolt, speed is ALL that matters, while for an attacker in soccer, you have to balance between speed and soccer ability as well as running/carrying with a ball at the same time.

[FateAtYourWindow]

@TASK104 This example can easily transitioned between balancing A+B in sport X and balancing A+B but with more demand on A in sport Y. Body builders who focus on bench press are most likely weaker @ deadlifts(but still strong compared to normal people) than those who focus on deadlifts. not that they are physically unable but just due to requirements of the competition.

other examples r everywhere u look, BMW M-X6 will never be faster than M6 due to the compromise, think of more examples :)

[SnareBuff]

You're exactly right. Since snooker has a bit less of an opportunity to cheat the pocket, most of the snooker trolls that infested YouTube say that you have to be more accurate. What's there to be more accurate about? You're aiming at a hole either way it goes, and your knowledge tells you that playing it a certain way will yield results (i.e. playing off the rail). Playing into one side of a pocket has nothing to do with inaccuracy, if anything, it makes the pocket smaller.

[clayton1979]

I played pool everyday on a table that would accept most shots and I was able to break and run 3 racks in a row. Then I went another pool hall and started missing shots I usually didn't miss. The pockets were shimmed all to hell even the slightest touch of the ball into the rail and the ball wouldn't go in just like snooker so that really threw me off. Instead of shooting pool i was focusing on just making balls and couldnt get through one rack anymore. A tough table can really ruin your game.

[websphere999]

you should look the video how ronnie o'sullivan play pool.

the most successfly pool player who played snooker is tony drago.

[outdoorpooltable]

@TASK104 well then i would love for pool players to try snooker and see them miss balls over and over again.

[TASK104]

@outdoorpooltable well then just search "Jeremy Jones snooker" and get your fill, it's pretty ugly. Honestly though, I think the number one problem is just lack of knowledge, which leads to lack of confidence, which leads to poor planning and execution.. Ultimately, pool players play snooker like pool and snooker players play pool like snooker. Neither works out very well.

[LeonFleisherFan]

@TASK104 On the contrary, Snooker players don't "get" this they give pool a try - we pool players regard whatever can be done on a pool table as a given. The better player is the one who'll make the best use it. Forgiving pockets and still unable to play pinpoint position, and run out virtually every rack? Means one isn't any good, it's as simple as that! It's also much more difficult to play safe - there's no such thing as "leaving distance". Plus avoid leaving any kick and jump shot options!

[BartjeOstend]

@LeonFleisherFan Amen bro ;)

[ribhkum]

@TASK104 do you play snooker ?? a snooker player can play pool to quite a high level !! a pool player is totally lost on a sooker table ??

[LeonFleisherFan]

@ribhkum It's true that thanks to their potting skills, Snooker pros tend to adapt to pool quickly and fare well on a professional entry-level - which is where the real fun begins, and that's what none of you Snooker players appear to understand. Try get Efren Reyes at his best away from the table, and you'll start to understand what the problem is: getting opportunities. In Snooker, one gets one or several turns in every game. And: Efren and others have beaten players like Ronnie in Snooker!

[ribhkum]

@LeonFleisherFan i'm sorry buddy but i'm pretty sure you've been mislead a pool player beating a pro snooker player on a full size table !! never gonna happen !!

[LeonFleisherFan]

@ribhkum Already did, probably happening someplace right now, and is going to again - just as vice versa. Regardless of what you may think, at the highest level, players in all cue sports are virtually flawless cueists, so there is really no mystery to this at all, potting skills being a virtual given. As to position play, Snooker, by definition, is really the easiest: large playing surface, barely any traffic (more and more open routes to get to the next object ball), respotted colours etc. So?

[ribhkum]

@LeonFleisherFan allready did you say ? i'd like to know who it was ? and it's funny how many snooker players are competing in top level pool !! yet i don't know of any top level pool player competing in top level snooker ?? if your gonna reply ,i'd like actual examples as in names !!! probably happening right now don't really cut it !!!

[LeonFleisherFan]

@ribhkum Reyes beat O'Sullivan and others (Ebdon among other if I remember correctly) and others in money games (put money on the table against a top Filipino, and it doesn't seem to matter what the name of the game is...) in Snooker when they challenged him during the IPT tour. Ask them if you don't believe it! In contrast to Snooker fans, the pros don't treat pool pros like Efren with the kind of disrespect people on YT do - they've learnt their lesson.

[LeonFleisherFan]

@ribhkum Note I'd not trivialising either sport: the point is that these pros are all superlative cueists, thus able to adapt to other games up to a certain point - after which (in the long run, that is) a certain lack of experience usually is undeniable. This is true either way. The arrogance of Snooker players is based on a misconception: that pocketing skills are all that counts. It obviously doesn't in a context where everyone (all the pros) pockets almost equally well: that is, in pool!

[LeonFleisherFan]

@ribhkum Also, Efren Reyes may be an unfair example: he is getting old now (sad but true), but he's quite obviously the greatest player to ever pick up a cue in any cue sport. And I'm saying this with no disrespect to historic greats like Walter Lindrum, Ralph Greenleaf, Willie Mosconi, Raymond Ceulemans, Torbjörn Blomdahl etc., nor more recent exceptional talents like Ronnie O'Sullivan, who is after all still piling up lifetime achievements (Efren's superior attitude would certainly help...).

[vincentwu]

@ribhkum There is no reason for top pool players to compete in snooker just to show that they can play snooker. Why would they do that? A pool player has to spend time working on various games: 8 ball, 9 ball, 10 ball, 14.1, maybe even one pocket. Another thing is why play a game that you don't enjoy, there is a reason that pool players play pool, not snooker. And the many snooker players that transformed into pool are really "pool players" now.

[vincentwu]

@ribhkum Although there are really tempting prize money in snooker, the tournaments are not accessible to many non-european pool players. It would be like asking a snooker player from England to travel to Philippines or Taiwan every few months just to play in an event. And I don't get why you want to compare these two games and even the players. 'Just because a game is more difficult to pot a ball doesn't mean its the better game.

[vincentwu]

@ribhkum I can play a 15 ball rotation on a 30x13 foot table and call my game superior to yours. And its not like snooker players don't miss. But I wanna ask you to review your logical flaws. Just because pool players don't try to compete in snooker tournaments doesn't mean they can't. Think about it. Top professional athletes worry about doing well in what they do, not to impress others in a different field (with some exceptions)

[YouaresoCrap]

ALCANO soft-breaked all the way to the title what a strategy

[lasercombo]

hahahah steve davis. nice one. so weird to see him holding a pool cue

[johnrule2008]

snooker boring.....

[burfodus]

you guys are funny, snooker is harder than pool, anyone who dissagrees needs to play some snooker on a pro table. ive played on a pro snooker table, and on a pro 9 ball table, how many of u have. pro players dont dedicate alot of time to 9 ball so thats why they get beat, there are many different skills in 9 ball ie jump, kick, break etc that snooker pros dont exactly spend hours on, however as cueists they are hundreads of times more accurate. both great games, just suit different markets.

[Stiletos]

In all honesty when you use the word "pool" you are leaving it pretty open to interpretation.

Playing 1-pocket on a 4 inch cut 9-foot diamond pool table at a pro level requires as much care as snooker on a pro table and alot more knowledge.

Playing 14.1 on the same 4 inch cut pool table puts just as much focus on top potting and breakout skills as snooker does.

The reason snooker players can compete in pool is because the sets in pool are far too short to be a true indicator of skill.

[burfodus]

sorry mate but a 4 inch square cut pocket is still a bucket compared to a pro snooker table.

ive played on both, and there is just no comparison really. im not taking away anything from 9 ball, or all american cuesports, they have their skill sets, and usually experience/shot selection counts for the most and thats where the snooker players are let down. but they can compete because they are fantastic cueists.

14-1 vs making a century, or even a 147, youd need to score 1000 to be close to on par

[Stiletos]

Now you are just being silly. The world record run in 14.1 is 528, so no, 1000 would not be "close to on par". By saying such you show a true ignorance of the game of 14.1.

"American" is a fairly inaccurate description in and of itself given 9-ball and 10-ball are vastly more popular in Asia atm then they ever have be in America. As a Canadian both pool and snooker are both played and I tend to have less of a bias one way or the other on this debate then most people "mate".

[Stiletos]

The reality is that snooker players are better potters then pool players because that is the focus of the game they play.

The main focus of pool is shape play, the ability to put alot more spin on the cueball then a snooker player will ever use and still make the shot. This is most definately also a factor in determining the level of a cueist, in this regard snooker and pool fall far behind 3-cushion players and in that cuesport neither pool or snooker players can compete with the best.

[burfodus]

a maximum isnt a world record, its been done many times, but this illistrates the level of cueist snooker players are. was that 526 (not 528) on 4 inch pockets? no, its was an exhibition, whats the world record under controlled tournament conditions? i rekon with a few years practise I could make 150-200 pt run with limited talent, however after already playing snooker for 8 years I think i could confidently say i could practise hard for the rest of my life and never make a 147 on a pro table.

[burfodus]

I understand your comments, but time and time again I see many people comparing snooker pros to other cueists and they judge snooker from the local club table they have played on.

its hard to explain wihtout letting someone have a crack on one of these tables and finding out for themselves.

sb..

[Stiletos]

If you could not run a 147 in your entire life then you are not running 200 in straight pool on a 9-foot diamond table with 4 inch cut pockets.

This is my point, yes, snooker is a hard game that focuses on potting ability and minimizes cueball movement to keep the potting accuracy high. Straight pool is a far different skill set and from your responses it shows you know very little about the challenges that make a 200 point run so very hard to accomplish on current pro pool tables.

[burfodus]

well I have made a few 60s and 70s and have only played the game 20 od times, one 60 was on a table with 4.5 inch pockets.

granted not exactly pro conditions, but i do understand a little about the game mate. and like i said if i dedicated a couple of years to it, i have little doubt i would be capable of it.

methinks agree to disagree here, but in 6 months time if your travelling to the uk, msg me on here and ill set you up a game on a pro snooker table, we can continue the discussion then.

[Stiletos]

Ya, and if you ever come over to Canada let me know, you can bring over a pro snooker player and get action for over $10,000 in a straight pool session to 1000 against a guy who has never even run a measly 500. I mean given you yourself could run a 150 without much effort it would just be stealing.

Mind you, keep in mind that Quinton Hann, who played very solid pro snooker wanted nothing to do with playing straight up straight pool against a true straight pool player for the cash.

[burfodus]

i didnt say without much effort i said with a few years solid practise.

allthough another friend of mine used to be a snooker pro, he started playing 9 ball and wanst too bad, made last 8 of worlds and took 10,000 cash of some american that obviously thought a snooker player wouldnt be able to take his money. joel younger

anyhow this point is moot until you have played on pro snooker table, cos i have played on both.

[Stiletos]

Yeah, who said I have not? High run is 53 on a Riley 6x12, pro cut pockets. I know, it sucks, blew a backcut on a black the minute I figured out I was half way to a century.

The point is moot because arguing about it on the internet is done, if you believe what you preach get your snooker player, get him practiced up, get your money, and get played.

Wont happen, he and you will quickly learn that putting together 25+ break shots in straights is every bit as hard as running 147.

[burfodus]

Interesting, where was the table? which club? Id say there is only 3 or 4 pro tables in the whole of Canada if your lucky. Usually pro players bring them over to practise on, but currently there are no pro american players, so in addition, it would not be on strachan no 10 cos only pro players have access to this cloth, and clubs would not want it on their tables cos it wears out about every 6 weeks.

quintens table is the only actual riley in australia, and i believe neil brought home some..

[burfodus]

strachan no 10 last year and had a table converted.

pro tables are also heated to make them run faster, but im sure thats just the conditions you played on.

(above post says america players, meany canadian/american)

whats your higest run in straigh pool (any table) how many straigh racks have you run at 8ball or 9 ball in comp??

sb..

[clayton1979]

I have to say you are smoking crack bro.

I have run multiple 30's and 40's at straight pool even though I have only played about 30 or 40 times but I couldn't even get a 10 break in snooker.

I'm sorry but I have to raise the bullshit flag on you bro. IMO running a 147 would be the equivelant of running atleast 300 at straight pool if not more or 10+ racks at 9 or 8 ball.

OH I played snooker in Singapore on the big tables and I couldnt even roll a ball on the cusion in with my cue.

[Stiletos]

You ran multiple 30's and 40's in straight pool and cannot run 10 in snooker, like a red, a black, a red, and perhaps a pink for a 15 point run, 4 balls total.... yeah you ran multiple 30's and 40's in straight pool but have never made 4 balls in a row playing snooker.... OK.

[clayton1979]

Ok, I only played snooker twice but I would have thought I could run atleast a few balls in a row but the fact is that the table i played on demanded perfect pocketing. The shots that bounce in on this video would not have gone in on the table that I played on so maybe that had something to do with it. I am sure I can get a 50 break on one of these tables if you let me play all day. I believe when a table is playing tough and you have to concetrate 99% just on pocketing it hurts ur whole game.

[red88alert]

same here...efren reyes beat ronnie osullivan and jimmy white at snooker in the same day in a race to 5 with his pool cue and made 3 century breaks this is testimony coming from darryl peach...pool players are more than capable of playing snooker if they wanted to!!!

[clayton1979]

Yeah, I agree with you. I believe all pro snooker players could be pro pool players within 6 months. I am not a pro but I have played on pro snooker tables and I found it impossible to play on. I am pretty good a pool and can run 3 racks in 8 and 9 ball but I couln't even get a 10 break at snooker. The difference in night and day and that is why I believe even a semi pro snooker play can play with the big boys in pool. Just my opinion so don't kill me guys.

[LeonFleisherFan]

There seems to be a basic misunderstanding here: yes, Smooker demands accuracy of shot-making. But it's repetitive in a way Straight Pool never is - that needs creativity in order to continually develop patterns. Snooker even more so than 9-ball dictates patterns, one merely needs to learn how to "read" the table and go for the first, second or third or so best way. In Straight Pool, the player must learn to be creative to an extent that would be out of the question in Snooker to begin with.

[LeonFleisherFan]

Oops! Typo...

[SM9BC]

why quarrel with shallow people? it's a different game? but anyway all PRO snooker players don't even dare to play money games with the PRO pool players... so please do not claim that pool is an easier game alright..

[tuitenlabi]

nah....pool is fun to play but dun really need a good skill man...snooker is on a different level......but i can play good at both ha ha ha...

[hitman89141]

wu was really unlucky, his break was simply perfect, with a nice stop shot especially since it happened twice

[jman2786]

Snooker is boring. Pool is way more energetic and funner to play

[duhhh86]

yeah. snooker is really slow-moving and long-winded. pool is full of power. but i have to admit, snooker is really a gentleman's game.

[trwylekat]

cultural mannerisms??? you fuckin ass hole, the dude ain't bowing and raising his hands in the praying position. He walks like he gets poked in that ass! How cultural is that?

[SodatSobat]

You must understand that the commentators are just making the game lively, which is basically the purpose of the job.

[Nineteen80Nine]

It's funny how the announcers make such a big deal over every shot like the "nice draw stroke!" at 7:55. It wasn't THAT great. These guys should watch some snooker. Now that's a real cue sport.

[phixxwutwut]

youre a loser who will never have sex, and spends all day making jokes about a game that he doesnt like.

[Nineteen80Nine]

you don't know me... better to make comments on a game you don't like than a person you don't know. bitch

[BxOxMxB]

we dont care who you are.. ur just jealous! go just play some PINBALL loser..

[Nineteen80Nine]

How bout you go and play some snooker and discover what REAL skill is? Pool is a bar game. Snooker is a sport. Bitch.

[BxOxMxB]

hahaha... really?? why is pool more popular than snooker?? no brainer!!! haha

[Nineteen80Nine]

Maybe because the countries it's played in most(By dumb Yanks and Asians who can't afford a snooker table) have a higher population than the countries that play snooker. That will soon change though because the Chinese are becoming richer and more sophisticated and now have a top snooker player, Ding Jun Hui. Also, another reason pool is more popular is because it's EASIER to play. Did you ever think of that one?

[BxOxMxB]

nah ur wrong!! Pool is more popular bec. ur Snooker is so boring!! common tell me how many games can you play w/ Snooker?? tell me?? no passion in snooker~~ dumb!

[rob2011r]

You're obviously a fundamentalist, and a stupid one at that. Not worth my time. Goodbye.

[mareleblond98]

And im sure you cant play either...

[theseattlesound]

Look, I used to manage ronnie when I lived in Manila. He has no sugar in his tank. He is quite the ladies man, but true pool players concentrate on the game. For example, many pianists and pool players hold themselves like that because of the style and grace of the sport. He has the best stroke, Jeff de luna has the best break and Efren Bata is just the King. If you want to find him just go to one side billiards in Malate, I was managing him at "Rack n Roll" before "one side" opened.

[breakcue101]

hey do you still talk to ronnie because my friend frank wants his cue back

[joeygonzo]

Look, Asian culture is just different from western or European on some things.

People applauded loudly when Pagulayan hooked himself on one shot at the semis in Taiwan-held WPC.

The English soccer fans?

[trwylekat]

Call me crazy but i think Ronnie's got a lil sugar in his tank. Check out the way he walks, has that typical homo straightness of the neck...

[Ajaxis0]

who cares bout that?

[trwylekat]

Beats the shit out of me. Obviously you do cause you replied to the comment. Its just an observation. I've watch Ronnie many times and notice that he has a "typcial" homo stroll about him. So I made the comment. Don't like it? Tuff titty.

[andyhounslow]

of course they were applauding the scratch, these filipinos cant conduct themselves properly. you only need to see daryl peach vs roberto gomez (WCP 2007 final) to see that. everytime daryl got out of line, or wound up without a shot, the crowd went nuts

[jonton12swee]

you cant conduct yourself

[andyhounslow]

you cant make worthwhile replies

[gedgenil]

I'm a Filipino. And I admit that Filipinos are quite bad pool fans. Whatever way you look at it, the crown was really applauding for the scratch. Only second was for Ronnie's turn to shoot.

[mikensarah713]

applauding ronnie coming up to shoot, not the scratch!duh

[mikensarah713]

applauding roonie coming up to shoot not the scratch!duh

[bernard02001]

too bad..wu just had bad luck wit d break

in the san-miguel tour this year alcano got beat bad by wu..had bad luck w d break too lol

[kolaas2006]

sheer bad luck to get cannoned twice in that pocket!