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  • Interesting. China gets to spend as much as it can on it's bloated military, but Taiwan isn't allowed to spend a dime. Makes perfect sense.

  • Might makes right, Taiwan is so screwed.

  • China is idiot, Long live Taiwan

  • @TheDopenessism

    You are an idiot. Truth.

  • And when the chiense ambassadar says "Chinese strong protest should be respected"..... how about china when the students strongly protested for democracy, what did china do? THEY CRUSHED AND Destryoed the people.... certainly no respect there....If you're going to talk the talk, then walk the walk!

    Put sanctions on america, then we'll stop giving you grain and starve you! starving people = bad image on gov!

    IF Taiwan didn't anymore wanted to claim itself as the china, ROC WOULD STILL BULLY

  • Why can't China just accept the fact that Taiwan is a seperate nation.... OBVIOUSLY Taiwan's military isn't a threat to china, so why does it keep bullying taiwan...BECAUSE THOSE LOW CLASS PEOPLE CAN'T ACCEPT FORGIVE GRUDGES. Anyone got any reason why china is bullying taiwan OTHER THAN "Taiwan is rightfully ours"?

  • Creampie

  • peaceful unifcation my ass china is so desperate lol. it's like China trying to make taiwan a friend but noone wants to be there friend losers =..=

  • taiwan newer will be part of china!!!!!eirope and usa will supourt taiwan

  • why dont they call it the republic of china?? are the communists that insecure, arrogant and paranoid?/ i think so. taiwan is not part of china . since the treaty of 1952 the u.s. has full legal status over taiwan. take that p.r.c.!!

  • Government + people + army= a country= Taiwan

  • @MrQAZ008 ur a fukn idiot...thats mean then every region has a government e.g priminster and they have people so does that mean they r a country?? retard. so that means is Alaska a country?

  • @nockey ur a fucking idiot mr Qaz008 didnt actually tell u everything if u look up what makes a country taiwan fits all of them just so u know and obviously alaska is not part of america as it doesnt have its own government dumbass. your saying taiwan is part of china coz they are close like saying australia is part of newzealand or vice versa =.=

  • @knightsfly5 OMG UR A IDOIT..ALASKA IS APART OF AMERICA>>U FUKN RETARD! AS BAD AS TAIWAN ISNT PART OF CHINA..HAHAH OH MY LORD

  • @nockey NO DUH i was using anaglogies u dumb fk communist piece of shit

  • @knightsfly5 LMAO OK MATE..Communist? LMAO ok im communist BITCH.! no dont try to cover ur dumbness...LMao china will distroye u fuks in 30min and retake the land and kill every motherfuker on it. COMMUNIST POWER NIGGA!

  • leave Taiwanese alone you china shit

  • @tungchankiet get the fuck out of tiawan and fuck urselfs.

  • The thing is, the time US bullys the world, it is just the right time the US is bullied by the world.

  • he's saying the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again.

  • Why does US provoke wars and tensions with other countries--like Iraq, namely? B/c war brings on profit...it fuels the economy by producing weapons...US makes a big deal about weaponry in countries like Iraq and North Korea (for example), but it's ironic b/c US spends the most on producing arms than any other country. I supported Obama before....what is he doing now??!

  • @aiMndMs too be fair north korea is a dictatoirship and iran has been threatening to qoute *wipe isreal off the map* for a while now so there should be clear reason why it is a problem

  • @Disturbedfan009 yeah i suppose but i don't even know what to believe now...ever heard of propaganda? There's always two sides to a story. For example, the boundaries in the middle east has been changed without their consent to create Israel in the first place...you can't blame them to feel resentment towards Israel

  • He is right on one point, there is only one China and it's government is based in Taiwan, the ROC is the only legitimate government of China.

  • @XxxSakura101 I'm taiwanese, and I would rather Taiwan become a new nation than become/claim to be the only ROC. Please the dam losers in china!

  • Stridus7 - Russia attacked and destroyed Gruzian army in August 2008

    WHAT USA did ,,,,  I did not see MOSCOW being bombed.

  • Stridus7 -- CHINA facing global economic sanctions... You have no clue what you are talking about. Made in CHINA sounds familiar.

    CHINA can attack Taiwan any time they want.

  • @aviomaster moron, go ahead attack Taiwan, China outdated technology doesnt stand a chance against US military.

    China wil lose everything

    go ahead make war with a country with 5000 nuclair warheads

  • @Stridus7 Ridiculous. if there is a war between us and China, maybe China lost, but US will come back to 1900s. not only US has the fuckin damn Nuclear weapons, China and Russia also have the shit. If that comes true, Russian will be glad to see the result. i wanna be alive and enjoy my life in the USA. so you smartass, please shut up.

  • is useless now to buy weapons , taiwan will fall without china economics , if u go independent we will stop trading with u maybe and u will fall in weeks

  • @another505 china provide nuclear material for north korean to develop nuclear weapon. North korea is fully support by china. china hurt south korean and increase tension in korean.If china want usa to stop provide miliary aid to tawian. Then china should stop provde aid to north korean, china must only recognised south korean as rightful government. North korean is a illegal government

  • @Handsome22fly i wont say illegal government , north korea isnt illegal is another country,and im not sure are we supplying them ,but usa is supply nearly everyone in the world

  • @another505 I hope you know that many taiwanese companies have factories in China... DESIGNED WELL in taiwan, MADE CRAPPY in China...

    HTC FTW!!!

  • CHINA can fuck up Taiwan any time , but the probelm is The PEOPLE ...

    CHINA does not want to kill too many Chinese people in Taiwan ...

  • @aviomaster China is not going to attack Taiwan or else they wil answer to the US , you fight Taiwan you fight with the US automatically.

    And China wil also face global economic sanctions.

  • taiwan is retarded keep buying guns china will eat yu alive

    fuck americans u fkin hypocrites ur country is founded on fukin over others just lik the aboriginals, then it was the nigguz and now they try to make every muslim look lik a terrorist

  • ROC was never part of PRC,

    China need to accept that and give up this useless struggle.

  • @skydreamerXIII fuck

  • Man, seriously? So much money poured into buying these 2nd rate weapons of the USA when the Taiwanese economy is already not doing well? There is just no valid reason for this, China isnt going to attack at all, it's just going to slowly absorb Taiwan with its economic and cultural might.

  • I'm British,French,Taiwaneese and I don't feel at all I'm Chineese. TAIWAN IS INDEPENDENT.

  • In "The US acknowledges the Chinese claim that Taiwan is a part of China", acknowledge has to mean "to recognize the authority or claim of". Acknowledge is the same as recognize on a diplomatic document.

    China has strong diplomatic claim on Taiwan, but ideology is different. As long as the US can it will support Taiwan to an extent constructive.

  • Taiwan hopes desperately to be denied the chance to use any weapons purchased. People in Taiwan has to spend billions to buy so few weapons that they want to be denied the chance to use when the time comes to accept a Hong Kong deal.

    mainland China will just use attrition to compel Taiwan. Will Taiwan start a war to avoid being another HK? Eventually no, 20-30 years.

  • @betalover1

    Hk is part of China, and is always a part of China.

    China Allowed U.K. to make HK in to its colony for 100 years, the time pass.

    HK is back to be a part of China

  • @isunlloaoll even macau too

  • china the best communist in the word.

    u are jealouse bcz.china communist is so rich and powerful.

  • Taiwan independence <3

  • Screw China. Taiwan FTW!

  • Obama could careless what the Communist Chinese Think!!

  • asianxxxworldwide

    If you believe defence arms = drugs, you should support the deal. Taiwan takes more "drugs" and become more ill, and your lovely mother CCP can invade TW quicker XD

  • Just a thought: China has a population of nearly one and a half billion and has one of the three biggest militarys in the world,let´s not forget their economic size... and this is the guy who they choose to represent their point of view towards the imperialistic and ever more threatening United states of america? Come on! The stuttering high school english is not likely to gain the chinese ground...

  • @Snakkpungur

    What's the point? Five years from now, it's going to be them making fun of our representatives' stuttering, half-assed Mandarin. English is gonna go the way of Latin, wait and see.

  • US did annouce the sales, but it was TAIWAN who wants to BUY. So why China just blams US but not Taiwan? There is never a deal if there is just a seller.

    Therefore, China gov just has to make such anouncement to appease the Left. She did so with nothing from her instinction.

  • hahahah if you want to talk about drugs, you blame the drug dealer, not the junkie

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  • That is true. Notice how the HKSAR government is obedient to Beijing's 'suggestions' to HK such as the railway construction. Kicking out people from their houses to create a railway that can easily be accessed in Shenzhen, is basically showing the 'One Country, Two System' never existed, and that 'Democracy' in Hong Kong, has NEVER risen since 1997.

  • The Communist China will fall. Even the man in this video, is stating points that can be easily overcome. But the United States should always have a heads up. China has many tricks up its sleeve.

  • @liquidreven can you say lol a couple more times, please?

  • How would china protect the largest dam in the world if war should break out? With no doubt they started to depend on all it's sources of energy and have started work on 12 more. Kind of funny how something so large can make a counrty strong , yet weak at the same time.

  • fcuk Wal-Mart

  • u jews are fuckin up the world today u greedy bastards. fuck israel

  • @larrysilvers China sell weapons to Sudan, many African dictators ..

    China also sell nuclear weapons to Iran and North Korea against UN arms embargo.

  • China sell weapons to Sudan, many African dictators ..

    China also sell nuclear weapons to Iran and North Korea against UN arms embargo.

  • LOOOL! since when did china sold nukes to iran and north korea? fuckin liar

  • why fuck China. Remember, it was Chinese who saved so many Jews during WWII. What a bunch of stupid people.

  • fuck US and fuck israel

  • @hcn9 why fuck israel? why a chinese person like you get so offended by jewish people? Wot did they ever do to your country? Eh?

  • becuz dirty jews like larrysilvers fuckin piss me off

  • -- Imperialists want World War -III ..

    They want to force people to use the dollar ...

  • your fukkin father US and isrel must be destroyed.

  • We should sell Taiwan nukes. Better yet, we should just pull out of Asia altogether and look the other way as Taiwan, Japan and S. Korea go nuclear. That'll really have the fascist, aggressor, oppressor Chinese crapping in their pants.

    Ungrateful Chinese commie bastards. The only reason they're not ruled by Japan is because of the U.S.

    Time for the U.S. to start playing hardball with those ungrateful, arrogant, fascist Chinese bastards.

  • yea at the same time we can let every muslim countries have nukes. that will keep the agressor and oppressor americans shittin their nappies. fuckin evil american empire needs to get wiped out asap

  • @hcn9 It'll be the Sadis, Israelis, Russians, Indians and Chinese shitting in their pants, not the U.S. It's far more likely, they'd nuke each other than Nuke the U.S.

    The U.S. SHOULD withdraw from there. Then we will no longer be a target.

    Besides, the U.S. can still look the other way when free nations like Taiwan, Japan, and S. Korea get nukes but still stop unfree nations who can't be trusted from getting nukes.

    The U.S. chose the wrong enemies. China is a greater threat.

  • US ARE shitting their nappies. theyre the most paranoid ppl on earth. remember the supposed missile strike from north korea on hawaii that was hyped up by US? that was some funny shit watching america shit themselves. oh u think problems will be solved if u withdrew from there? u think aghans and iraqis will simply forget about u invading their country and drop bombs on their women and children? idiot. the most untrusted country with nukes is US. ur the ones whose invading countries

  • @hcn9 You ask: "u think aghans and iraqis will simply forget about u invading their country and drop bombs on their women and children? "

    Yeah, I think so. They're tired of it. They'll be glad we're gone. They won't want to risk the U.S. coming back. No country would nuke the U.S. because we would annihilated them. They won't risk it.

    The Muslims are incompetent anyway. They'd be lucky to actually build a nuke. We chose the wrong enemy. China is much smarter and much more dangerous.

  • ok how about they give u another 9/11 attack and see if u too can get "tired of it". they will be glad ur gone? LOL tell that to the rising numbers of jihads across the world. they would want u to stay so they can keep blowing u the fuck up for killing their family. china and russia would gladly want to nuke the US for the sake of world peace. US must be nuked and wiped out becuz mankind can no longer survive their stupidity.

  • @hcn9 Yeah, "how about "?

    "china and russia would gladly want to nuke the US ..."

    China and Russia would more likely nuke each other before they'd nuke us. The U.S. has good relations with Russia.

    Get real, dude. The U.S. has enough nukes to obliterate the whole rest of the world. If China would nuke the U.S., it only proves my point that China is a threat to the U.S. In that case, it is good to sell weapons to Taiwan and let Taiwan develop nukes.

  • US have "good" relations with russia? LOL after ur backing of georgia against russia? after ur decision to deploy missiles near russias borders? china and russia are alliances and members of the SCO. both russia and china share one thing - hatred against the US. russia has the most nukes in the world and they created the Tsar bomb, the most powerful nuclear bomb ever. US is threat to the entire world and is a threat to the rise of china. we must sell weapons to muslim countries against the US

  • @hcn9 "US ... is a threat to the rise of china. we must sell weapons to muslim countries against the US "

    You already do. Go ahead. China is a bigger threat than the Muslims.. Besides, we could still take out the weapons you sell the Muslims and still look the other way as Taiwan, Japan and S.Korea get nukes. It would be worth it to stop "the rise of china", whatever that means.

    "russia and china share one thing - hatred against the US"

    Only China, not Russia.

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  • Dude, the droid has lost his mind....he needs to be sent back to camp for reconditioning.

  • Ummm....dont you have Mickey Mouse figurines to paint for us?

  • usa is going to attack china after they built up tawain , like they doing with isreal before they attack iran ,

  • China will never understand the meaning of human right. I just laughed so much how this person say Taiwan is part of China which clearly is not.

    This is just an example of North and South Korea LOL

  • dumb ass north and south korea are both UN recongnized countries but taiwan is NOT there are only a few caribbean island countries who have formal deplomatic relations with taiwan.

  • @obsidianstatue wondering why Taiwan is not part of UN? Dumbass think because u communist government keep crying and threatening at Taiwan. Who the hell think u government are eh? A wanker like u from China obviously denies the democracy. Heard so many shits from chinese. Hope Taiwan denies to join Communist party since they're independent.

    I find it funny how the chinese government thinks Taiwan is part of China. Clearly NOT. retard

  • crying and threatening eyyy? im sure CHina used a much more smarted and much more formal way of kicking those island barbarians outta the un. yea dumb ass China used legal and peaceful diplomatic solutions unlike the west uses war. and no the our ability to comprehend freedom is relative and it has no set standard,thus it cease to exist in politics so is the so called democracy.

  • china can supply taliban with sophisticated weapons and iran this will change us arms policy with tawian !

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  • and oh yea the pieces of crap america sale to taiwan wont do anything in changing the military power scale. China now have atleast 1500 short and medium range ballistic missiles pointing at taiwan just 240 of those are enough to disable the entire taiwanese airforce. and there are atleast 100 DF-21 anti-ship long rang missiles tracking american carrier fleet movement 24/7.

  • china has no choice now but to invaded tawain before weapons arrive ! china must move Now !

  • american is going to attack china now ! before they get too strong ! and the best way to do it is use the stupid tawainese nationlist fools by arming them

  • what the hell going on china has never invaded tawian even thou it can easily , now america is using tawain as a allie to attack china ! tawian should give weapons to china instead ! china will always protect tawian from foriengn invasion

  • israel must be destroyed. fuckin jews

  • From now own, I´ll refer to you as DROID. A machine and instrument for the West. You are malfunctiong. Please report to camp for reconditioning.

  • Where is the noble prize for peace? Giving Obama noble prize for peace? But he is making more war. WTF

  • taiwan makes awesome phones HTC. i wanr to get htc hd2

  • Airstrik3. I agree. The US is just itching for a chance to test out some secret armament and win the hearts of Americans, etc. worldwide.

  • Free my tibetans, they are harmless lol, i love how the drama unfolds on utube

  • free north america. give land back to natives

  • They don't want your fucking socialism you moron - can't you get that through your thick skull?

  • There can be no peaceful solution without democracy for Taiwan.

  • an ecomomic take over is a peaceful solution and China can instil the ideology and system of Socialism with Chinese characteristics. democraccy is just a circus moneys entertaining monkeys like u who never wonder whats behind the curtains because you have been given a peanut that has the word "freedsom" written on it.

  • If China's true intention is to invade Taiwan as claim by the Taiwan and the US government, would it make sense for China to invade Taiwan now vs waiting till after Taiwan has stocked up on weapons. The US has got Taiwan hook, line and sinker.

  • @panpizzalover Most likely is that China wants to solve this problem peacefully. If they just invade right now, people from other countries especially the Usa will talk shit about China and we might even start a war.

  • If your armed forces and equipment are as impresive as you say, then what the fuck are you waiting for - a written invitation?

  • on the taiwan relations act between america and taiwan it only says USA will consider to deploy troops in the defence of the island if its under Chinese invasion. there is also the economic option now taiwan is increasingly dependent on Chinese economy China is taiwan's biggest importer, and trade partner, and now mainland Chinese is already able to invest in taiwan less than 10 years u will see a take over of Chinese business,and from then we can infiltrate into politics, a peaceful solution

  • Remember, equipment is only as good as the people operating it. Your level of training is not even close to that of the Taiwanese - let alone the americans.

  • if taiwan ever formally declear indepenence China will take military action aginst the island, we almost have in 1996 but the americans forced taiwan's then pro-separatist government to stop its provocative actions.if in the next election taiwan elects its former pro-separatist government and continue its provocative policies then China will surly take military actions,

  • Taiwan buys weapons from the US to use against its fellow Chinese neighbors and lineage. Taiwanese are basically Chinese islander. So in other words, the US is making billions and getting Taiwan to help keep the US dominant by fighting China. So the US would gain more if Taiwan and China goes to war. The US is one smart country. Taiwan not so smart.

  • Talk Talk Talk. How about some action?

  • China will take action if the time is right for now even though china can win a naval battle close to China with america China still dont have the air superiority over america in abour 5 to ten years time then China would have both air and sea superiority over america close to Chinese waters, open ocean is another thing.

  • Talk is cheap. If you have the might then do it.

  • If your navy is so good? Why did they buy an aircraft carrier and then turn it into a museum? I will tell you why, because they could not organise themselves. And by the way, marching in strick formations may look impresive, but it does not win wars.

  • the only hope for americans to intecept DF-21 is through the aegis system by the SM-3 ABM.but its only useful for balistic missiles like DF-21, in the case of cruise missiles there is nothing the americans can do, YJ-96 is a ship and submarine launched super sonic speed missile, given the sea condition in terminal phase its able to fly only 2 meteres above the sea surface and hit its target, with this 4-5 Chinese 041 submarines is able to do massive amount of damage to the 7th fleet.

  • when the great People's liberation army liberate taiwan from the barbarians when will set up concetration camps and round u guys up and force u to produce cheep products then sale it back to your family, your wage is ensured 1 dollor a day,u will be asked to work atleast 15 hours eachday without wekkends or holidays. and through the great teaching of China one generation after the liberation a new class of young eger patriots will be born in taiwan.and all the hatred will be forgotten.

  • The peoples liberation army could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag- let alone invade Taiwan. You fuckers don't even know how to line up properly.

  • first of all China's PLA is the world's best a marching in strick formations even the women reserves can march better than any in the world. second of all Chna has the best Navy in asia, and on of the top five navies in the world. China's diesel electric Yuan class submarines are atleast 15.5 decibels quieter than american submarines. under water for every 6 decibels quieter your risk of being detected halves.

  • China has 1500 short and medium range missiles pionting at taiwan, China only needs to launch 240 of the missiles to destroy every civil and military airports in taiwan thus disabling taiwanese airforce,as everyone know without air superiority then you would also lose your navy's ability to do anything.then PLA has the ability to fire long range rockets bombarding coastal cities after that strategic bombers raid any city with population of and over 100,000. and finaly PLA marine can land in 24hr

  • in 48 hours most major cities woudl fall into PLA control due to the lose of airforce and taiwan's navy.and in about a weeks time China can liberate the entire island. within 1 week time limit america can only respond with the 7th fleet based in japan,they will have no reinforcements as any deployment of naval fleet from Hawaii takes 2 week and a half to 2 weeks.

  • the uss 7th fleet has is a strong enemy, but China has just recently developed a counter to large american destroyers, and aircraft carriers that are over the displacement of 8000 tons.DF-21 land to sea variant. is has been called the aircraft carrier killer, it has a range of 5000 km and is able to sink any large warships.its activly phased guilded so in terminal phase its almost impossible for the american patriot III to intercept,

  • its about time for china to dump US bonds and watch US economy go byebye

  • - Russia and China should arm Iran and people in Iraq and Afganistan ...

  • And Palestine too.

  • China can rant all it wants around the world, but, China's problems in the long run won't disappear... in China's cities, its middle class people regard majority of China's population, the peasants, as no more than street dogs to be exploited, unlike other nations of the world where such class system exists, in China, those "migrants" are regarded as subhumans... I never believed this before, but, by meeting chinks of different ranks, that divide is clearly visible.

  • ...and when the Americans dollar drops to nothing, China loses trillions of dollars, and as a retaliatory measure, the USA will pull out a wild card - that is to say they will send the jobs to India or Mexico. The Chinese will have to answer to a BILLION screaming people...civil war..famine. Its a staring contest, one doesnt dare make a move or there are consequences. Ummm, China, we need another TRILLION, be a little lamb and bring it to us, cheers!, thanks ur a doll!

  • Bastard what we can expect from you. World know what US is .......... the fukkin ass hole. Always creating problem. Whole world shold unite to destroy US from the Map of the Planet.

  • actually like chinese people but the government is starting to get greedy and they have to realize US is the leader and they would make a big mistake if they choose this path. Stop being in denial and realize US would destroy china.

  • LOOOL! US is leader? says who? AHAHAHHA u american make me laugh. only arrogant americans sees themselves as "leaders". china will destroy US anytime

  • The Chinese are notorious liars. They cheat, lie, counterfit, omit, duck, manipulate and deflect. There is nothing this man could possibly argue against. Taiwan is NOT part of China. Human beings do NOT get owned by governments. We can by virtue of a vote leave any country. We just need the majority votes.

    I hope there were a few nukes in the weaponary. Maybe like 20 and if attacked just launch them all on the govt buildings and kill the Chinese fuckers. Go Taiwan Go!!

  • the irony in ur comment is that taiwan are also chinese u dumbshit lmao

  • The Taiwanese are as Chinese as Canadians are American. Sorry, dude, you´ve rolled snake eyes. In 1812 we Canadians fought off the Americans under our then British flag. We won. Maybe to a Chinese national we north americans all look alike....perhaps to you one slant eye is the same as the other. You´re pretty fucking racist, dude.

  • ahahaha u calling me "racist" and here u are talking shit about chinese ppl. u makin a fool of urself. taiwan are chinese. simple. 98% of the population in taiwan are ethnic han chinese. both china and taiwan share the same culture, same language, same ancestors.

  • You have a very narrow mind....you sound Chinese. Hong Kong residence dont want Mainland chinese in their city and stop them by requiring a HKID card. Which requires MILLIONS of dollars. The Taiwanaese dont want to mingle with the Mainlanders either...in fact they dont want to integrate with them entirely. Racisim? Perhaps, and who isnt? Mainlanders are like rats.

  • HUH!? u have no idea what u are talking about. when its not come to politics, all chinese from mainland, hongkong, and taiwan are united. for example, when the sichuan earthquake hit, every chinese from mainland, taiwan, hongkong, and overseas mourned together. thats something u white ignorant ppl will never understand. disrespecting the chinese on mainland is the same as disrespecting their ancestors. and respect for ancestors is imporant in chinese culture.

  • You are obviously a mainlander. The Hong Kong people do NOT allow Mainlanders to reside in HK. You need a HKID card. When I was at HSBC, I can tell you that my counterparts in HK would be pretty clear about their feelings towards the mainlanders. Do you know what it takes to obtain an HKID that gives you right to reside in HK? Lets put it this way....95% of mainlanders will not qualify. They are personas non grata. No bs.

  • what the fuck are u talking about? what has HKID card got to do with this?

  • You dont understand the implications of an HKID card? When the British left Hong Kong after the 100 year lease expired, the people of HK demanded some autonomy from the rest of China. They demanded limited integration from the Mainland. The Chinese government understood and obliged. It is to prevent the mainlanders from integrating with the British influenced culture. Mainlanders are rats....nobody seems to like them. Where r u from....."I´m from hongkong" (note, no reference to china).

  • LOL this is how i know u chat so much bullshit. what the fuck u talking about "people of HK demanded some sutonomy"? deng xiaoping already agreed plans to give hong kong autonomy in 1984 with the 'one country, two systems' u dumbass. whats this bullshit about prevention of mainlanders intergrating with the british influenced culture? fuckin liar. hong kong ppl are chinese ppl. they share the same culture as the mainland. look at jackie chan. hes more chinese than british. stop embarassing urself

  • They are NOT Chinese people. They are of a completely different mind set than mainlanders. Mainlanders are brought up as narrowminded, 2 demensional thinkers. 1 billion people and they cant invent a thing. Why? The oppression of Mao. And everybody in the West knows why mainland China is the choice of slave labour - not India or Mexico or other 3rd world nations - but mainland china. They are very obedient, they are not in a position to demand a thing. No organized labour no nothing.

  • You need more than a shared passport or facial similarities to forge a kinship. Like I said, I worked for HSBC for 10 years and my collegues in Hong Kong would respond to your ascertions as something that is typical of somebody who hails from the mainland. None would have anything to do with you. And yes, the HKID, as explained via media and my collegues in HK is all about preventing integration of mainlanders. There is no other country in the world that bars residency of certain people.

  • Look at all the mainlanders who are denied the visa. How many articles have to be written for you to GET IT. 3 Mainland children who were adopted by a HK couple were denied entry into HK by the highest court simply because they are not HK born. HK has a different system of law, and economic ties. It is NOT China and you, as a Chinese mainlander are expected to apply for visits there as I would be as a Canadian. You are NOT part of that system and never will be. You are a MAINLANDER.

  • In 2008, Hong Kong introduced a new anti racism law. Descriminating against Indians, and other ethnic groups, but the mainlanders, who were the most descriminated against, were omitted from the list of identified ethnics. The irony in the mainlanders complaints is that they are brushed off....how can a mainlander be discriminated when they are being discriminated by the same race? Today mainlanders are considered as "rubes" and "social leeches".....as a Canadian, I certainly agree.

  • ...sharing the same skin colour is not gonna get you in. You need the same intellect, same social economic circles, money....excuse me, I´m heading to another town this moment to pick somebody up. Since I´m Canadian, I can go into that town without a permit or visa and the screening.

    Its been fun educating you. Dont cry now.

  • again, u are embarassing urself with these lies. the mainlanders are not the most discriminated against. find me a source which says that. the most discriminated are the non-chinese, the majority of them from south asia such as indians and philippines. so give me just ONE proof what u said was right. just ONE little source

  • Sure, we will start very small, okay, and then we will build towards the most significant source which will be a senior politician in Hong Kong. The small source....go to chinese (hypen) forums (dot) com, and then find the thread: Why are Mainlanders hated so much? There you will see debate and comments from the HK people. After you have digested that, at your request, I will show you a site filled with HK residence laughing at Mainlanders. After that, per ur request, I will take u...

  • ...to a news article from a Hong Kong newspaper story discussing the severe descrimination against Mainlanders. Politicians were asked to share their views on how to resolve the problem and why they refuse to take action.

    The HK people are a generation of British influenced culture. Like the Japanese, HK people are well respected in the West. The problems arise sometimes when an HK is mistaken for a mainlander. That is why HK residences always announce themselves as HK res when they travel

  • ....they identify themselves as HK residences to distinquish themselves from the Mainlanders. That earns them some instant respect. Dont EVER believe you stand on the same level as an HK res....you´d be dilluding yourself. I have many HK friends from my work at HSBC...I try to respect ppl based on individual character but mainlanders sound like YOU. You´re a flake.

  • DUH! obviously they have to say they are from hong kong and not from mainland china. if someone calls u american, are u not going to correct them and say ur canadian? and whats that got to do with "respect"? hong kong ppl are chinese. mainland ppl are chinese. taiwan ppl are chinese. its funny how ur trying to seperate hong kong by saying they are not "chinese". u are so confused

  • I know you´d like to believe that the Hong Kong people are not descriminating against the Mainlanders and inspite of all the protests to politicians in HK, the mainlanders are being ignored. I can post many quotes and also even post a newspaper article from HK that discusses this problem at length. The bottom line is, irregardless of historical ties to Mainland China, the HK people are pretty clear about their sentiment towards the mainlanders. I´ll let their own words speak for themselves.

  • so according to u, are u trying to say that hong kong ppl are ignorant ppl who love to discriminate? are u saying that they even love to discriminate against their own race? well that must be what happens when they are influenced by "western culture". hong kong ended up as a city of ignorant ppl becuz of british influences. i blame the british for their giving them a culture of ignorance. looks like wherether theres a westernised culture, there are full of ignorant ppl who love to discriminate

  • According to me?? Did you bother reading the links I gave you? Its according to the HK media, politicians that mainlanders are discriminated against. In Canada, no race is barred for taking up residency in any particular city. Only in China are Mainlanders denied residency in HK. Discrimination is global. Its real. YOU descriminate. You judge. EVERYBODY judges. Mainlanders are treated like garbage in every part of the world - generally speaking. If you are 2 demensional life sucks.

  • what??? mainlanderes ARE allowed to be given residence in hong kong. wtf do u mean "denied"? go look up the 'Arrangement for entry to Hong Kong from Mainland' in the government website. give me exaples of how "Mainlanders are treated like garbage in every part of the world". such as?

  • Well, if you look at the quota for visits to HK from Mainlanders, it is restricted to 150 permits per day. The condition set to obtain such a permit revolves around your qualification to reside there. 1500 Mainlanders are PROSECTUTED every year on average w many who actually were holding a VISA for entry. HK has errected a massive barrier and border enforcement around HK and is stepping up harsh penalties against mainlanders who believe they have a right to enter because they are "chinese".

  • Also, consider how financially restrictive it is for a typical mainlander to enter HK under the investment class...they need a shit load of money well beyond their means. Skilled class?...think again, the skilled class is not exclusive to mainlanders, any skilled worker from abroad has EQUAL opportunity under that class. There is no preferential treatment towards a mainlander...that is by design. The BBC did a report of this in a documentary where they video taped mainlanders trying to slip in.

  • Re an example of being treated like garbage....fine, in Canada, even while a mainlander may have a degree or two, he/she is still going to find it difficult obtaining a job here. My wife is from Mexico....in less than 1 week, she secured a lucrative career here. She beat out many applicants who had demonstrated credentials higher than hers....its not just what you know, its about who you are, and who you know. The degree...opens doors, the rest is about your character.

  • all that tells me is that there is increasing discrimination in canada which is very bad for ur country's image. u ignorant canadians need to fix up ur attitude. looks to me like canada is a fucked up place to find employment and we gotta tell this to everyone who wants to live there. what a way to promote ur country's ignorance

  • It´s EVERYWHERE, mate. Cindy Lee is a multi millionaire from Taiwan. When she recently sold her supermarket for $150 million, she had some parting words for the mainlanders....integrate into Canadian culture or fail. Sure, you have the perogative to be a communist defender, and cowardly, and maybe you can choose to live with a cluster of other similiarily minded individuals, but you will fail. Your creds are NOTHING without inhaling the culture of Canada & its respect for democracy.

  • what the fuck has 'investment class' got anything to do with immigration? that does not make any sense. ur making up bullshit. so are u saying that hong kong are breaking their own rules and are refusing equal opportunities to all workers no matter the background? looks like british have turned hong kong into a city of ignorance. ignorance must be a large part of western culture

  • Yes they are breakig their own rules, and if you go back to my earlier posts, you will discover a news article referencing the outrage from Mainlanders who argue that descrimination laws deliberately omited any mention of MAINLANDERS. Jobs are denied, opportunities are denied. Prosecution is heaviest towards mainlanders who are caught without visas. Permanent bans after deporation from that city. You are so behind on whats going on...fine. Everything is cool, nothing to see here folks.

  • give me proof that 1500 mainlanders are being prosecuted every year. where are the sources? i know ur trying to create a rift between chinese but it is not working

  • if u send a hong kong person to beijing, u think he wont get discriminated too? or how about u send a taiwan person to hong kong, u think he also wont get discriminated? it happens all around the world dumbass. even hong kong ppl are discriminated in taiwan and even in japan. u still not answer my question. u say they are not chinese. then what are they? why are they speaking chinese?

  • HK people may face discrimination on the mainland but its usually brushed aside as a non issue because somebody of that stature is only interested in doing business on the Mainland just as we in the West are....the slave trade is rich on the Mainland. They are "chinese" in terms of legality, but they are not spiritually or intellectually. They are very Westernized. Japanese people...awesome to party with! HKérs...CRAZY fuckers! Chinese mainlanders....boring, workaholics, simpletons. Yuck!

  • go on then. give me proof mainlanders are more discriminated than south asians. do some polls or whatever the fuck u want.

  • what???? did u just say that hong kong are not chinese ppl? thats the most retarded shit ive read today. they are chinese. go to hong kong and find me one person who calls themselves "british" LMAO! if they are not chinese, then why are they speaking chinese langauage? why not english huh? dumbass. no organised labour? erm...u ever heard of something called 'factories'? and india is recognised by the UN as the worlds capital for slave labour. ur dumber than i thought. btw, Mao died 34yrs ago...

  • @hcn9 ive heard this soo many times but taiwan isnt communist like china. I dont care if u say same culture same language... Look at north korea and south korea.. wow shall i consider em just KOREA? No coz they're different one communist and one democracy.... chinese communist government are just selfish think of their own LOL

  • u are a jap. u think u have the rights to have a say in this? it was u imperialists japs who tore taiwan away from china in the treaty of shimonoseki. fuckin dirty japs. who cares if taiwan is democracy. u ever heard of the one country, two systems? taiwan will be part of china again