I was a dark lightsaber style that could take over the person and then become a technique as well as a lightsaber form. It is a style but it can become a technique.
@MasterYoda12321 Well technically its not a saber form, Vaapad is more than a fighting style. It is a state of mind, a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side.
@Zapomniany97 he is really young in ep2, but uses 2 sabers very good. So, he must be trained for that. There is no ep3 in that video, so we can say that he usually uses Niman.
@LegoMandLego1man Jar'kai counts as a developed form in Niman, even though it is more commonly used by masters who are way beyond the use of a single form
Correction: Anakin's core style was Shien/Djem-So. Niman is the reference for dual saber fighting. If you want to call Niman anyone's style it would be Ayla Sekura, the twi'lek.
Vader didn't use that lightsaber form. And I'm almost certain Qui Gon didn't use ataru or atleast he didn't look like he was using it in the movies. I can Identify a form by just looking at the person fighting
@DarthVulku Your right. As far as im concerned Vader really couldnt perform any style with the suit on. And Im pretty sure wookiepedia states that Qui-Gon was trained in ataru but he never actually showed it because Darth maul never let him with enough room to perform it better especially in the Naboo reactor room
@MysteryManJMN thats a color not a form idiot. beside, how come you call dual-blade lightsaber as darth maul style if there was a numerous dual-blade users before him?
look, you can't just fight a jedi or a sith without any kind of style. For example: Shii-Cho is for many Enemys, Makashi is for Jedi and Soresu for many Enemys with Blasters.
See... Now that could have been a good idea if you explained what each lightsaber fighting style was, and not just it's name.
And you could have easily done that instead of wasting that other two minutes of showing poorly mixed clips that barely had any time-line, let alone saber combat.
Call me a critic, but I was expecting to LEARN something... Not watch star wars clips put to a song.
@jacobfkingtinker It is explained in sources such as the Visual Dictionaries and novels. The Episode III novel focuses more heavily on them to describe some scenes, and so does the book Shatterpoint, both written by Matthew Stover. I suggest you read them, they're very good books and explain a lot.
vaapad is an improvement on the juyo form. they are both considered as the 7th form. and djem so and shien are not the same but are both considered as the 5th form
anakin wasn't a master of shien and was only seen using the Jar'kai variant of Shien, before the clone wars he used Ataru and Shien, then after the Duel with Dooku and in the clone wars, he changed his style to Form V variant Djem So. As Darth Vader he mastered Form (Shien and Djem So) using a customized style of them with Soresu and Ataru spots.
i like the form makashi becuse it balances parrying with attaking so you have a good balance there and its also the best aginst other people with lightsabers
not the best, as you saw in the death of Dooku, the flaw of Makashi is against advanced Form V users(which anakin is) As shown during Dooku's fatal duel with Anakin, Makashi simply did not generate the necessary kinetic energy to meet Djem So (Skywalker's preferred style) on an even footing. The sheer raw power of Form V wore down Dooku's defenses, physically exhausting him and draining his reserves of Force power.[
According to the Fightsaber article, Anakin was using an Ataru variant of Niman/Jar'Kai when using two sabers against Dooku. Form VI: Niman is a different form to Niman/Jar'Kai, although mastery of Niman helps in mastering Niman/Jar'Kai. :)
anakin was a shien and later on djem so practitioner he was just implementing Jar'Kai in that fight scene and i believe it was a mix of ataru and Jar' Kai but anyway nice vid though :P
If I'm right, the lightsaber forms were only created and explained in the EU or canon material. From what I heard, George has no idea about anything of these styles, and in fact, he just thinks all jedi are master swordsmen. :/
Indeed. The only people who probably figured their were ANY styles were the choreographers (Mainly Nick Gillard), but if anything, they were either, fast or hard styles Lol.
Hey "Phuzzydude", I hate to break this to you, but the only reason they came up with different "styles" was to explain why the lightsaber battles in the new films are so much faster and fancier than those of the old movies. It's sad when geeks just take in everything that's spoonfed to them by Lucasfilm. Bascially, the new movies suck.
sorry, I misclicked. that's a BAD comment. you might have a point, but even so, no need to be a bad sport about it. Just as it is in the real world, there are different forms of combat. deal.
The lightsaber forms are retcon nonsense. I appreciate your effort with this video, but it's still pointless, because there's no such thing as the seven forms in the Star Wars-movies - especially not vaapad. Vaapad only exists in the expanded universe, not in the movies. The way Samuel Jackson fights in the films has nothing to do what Windu's lightsaber style is described like in the books, sorry.
I will give you that the seven forms aren't in the films. but who cares? it's still a cool consept ans I happen to like the EU a lot, and I'm not yelling at you that your thinking and I respect that I just happen to like it a lot, so, yeah.
Well, one could always get out and film something like that on one's own.
Some years ago, I had this idea to make a website with a friend dedicated to the forms of lightsaber combat. We wanted to make a website where you could read all about them, and to provide lightsaber battle videos that demonstrate (our ideas of) those forms.
Although I agree the styles aren't entirely accurate in the movies, except for Yoda's Ataro, Obi-wans Soresu, Tyrannus' Makashi and Anakins Djiem So (not niman as the vid says).
But I thought the forms were made canon a little while back, just after episode II came out.
I know they are canon. But I think there's a little difference between "original canon" and "retcon canon".
For example, the Death Star being designed by the geonosians is original canon. But the Death Star being a collaberative design of the geonosians and Bevel Lemelisk is retcon canon.
But would you agree that the lightsaber styles are more accurately depicted in episodes II and III? I think it's more aparrent who's using what form in the last two than others, wich would make sense since that's when they came up with them.
I think that Nick Gillard, the fight choreograph, had some kind of style in mind for each character, of course. Especially in Episode III, where he wanted the fights to be very personal and explain the characters well.
So my guess is that those EU authors or whoever came up with the seven styles in the first place talked with him about this matter and tried to adapt his ideas and explanations in a somewhat canon-like form. It's not perfectly accurate therefore, but not a bad thing either.
Sounds like a pretty likely scenario to me, also watching the ep.III special features where Nick talks about the 'levels' of lightsaber fighting and like you said, reflecting the characters in the way they fight.
I do think the way they're explained in the EU stuff is pretty awesome though lol
I'm hoping to write a book about the lightsaber forms - giving instructions on movement styles, posture, grip, etc. It may be retcon, and you may not see much like them in the movies, but I think I've got some decent ideas of how to do each form. Don't know what people think, but if nothing else, I'd like to do it for myself... Yes, I am a certified nerd. lol.
Vapaad is a technique Mace Widou invented,not a Lightsaber style
koulis0985 2 months ago
@koulis0985
I was a dark lightsaber style that could take over the person and then become a technique as well as a lightsaber form. It is a style but it can become a technique.
ACULimoncelli10 2 months ago
vaapad and juyo are the same thing, but still, great video
MasterYoda12321 4 months ago
@MasterYoda12321 Well technically its not a saber form, Vaapad is more than a fighting style. It is a state of mind, a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side.
doomcrue87 3 months ago
And my favoruite style is Soresu.
Zapomniany97 7 months ago
Anakin Skywalker use style Niman only once in fight with Count Dooku, he usually uses Djem So. Darth Vader never uses Niman.
Zapomniany97 7 months ago
@Zapomniany97 he is really young in ep2, but uses 2 sabers very good. So, he must be trained for that. There is no ep3 in that video, so we can say that he usually uses Niman.
MrKOHCEPBAHT 6 months ago
Darth Terror InAnus
Sebastian781 11 months ago
Actually, when Anakin was using two lightsabers he was using Jar'Kai not Niman.
And Vader uses Djem So not Djem So and Shien.
LegoMandLego1man 11 months ago
@LegoMandLego1man Jar'kai counts as a developed form in Niman, even though it is more commonly used by masters who are way beyond the use of a single form
blodstainer 10 months ago
@LegoMandLego1man
jar'kar is just another word for duel wielding
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@ACULimoncelli10 do you mean Jar Kai not Jar Kar
koulis0985 2 months ago
Correction: Anakin's core style was Shien/Djem-So. Niman is the reference for dual saber fighting. If you want to call Niman anyone's style it would be Ayla Sekura, the twi'lek.
shidoshirayne 1 year ago
These aren't styles of lightsabers. They're jedi combat styles.
DoPlease 1 year ago
Vader didn't use that lightsaber form. And I'm almost certain Qui Gon didn't use ataru or atleast he didn't look like he was using it in the movies. I can Identify a form by just looking at the person fighting
DarthVulku 1 year ago
@DarthVulku Your right. As far as im concerned Vader really couldnt perform any style with the suit on. And Im pretty sure wookiepedia states that Qui-Gon was trained in ataru but he never actually showed it because Darth maul never let him with enough room to perform it better especially in the Naboo reactor room
DarthVectivus2 1 year ago
that's a shit
29Schreiend110 1 year ago
WTF. These aren't styles of lightsabers. Here are styles of lightsabers:
Green Style (Green Lightsaber)
Blue Style (Blue Lightsaber)
Yellow Style (Yellow Lightsaber)
Purple Style (Purple Lightsaber)
Red Style (Red Lightsaber)
Count Duku Style (A Curved handle Lightsaber)
Darth Maul Style (Double Sided Lightsaber)
MysteryManJMN 1 year ago
@MysteryManJMN your stating colors, not the specific hilts that were created to incorporate a fighting form
DarthVectivus2 1 year ago
@MysteryManJMN thats a color not a form idiot. beside, how come you call dual-blade lightsaber as darth maul style if there was a numerous dual-blade users before him?
devilhacker86 1 year ago
I cannot see the reason all of this... these styles were not named before 2002.
The old trilogy and Episode I have no any contact with them, even KotOR and JK.
Gaston92146 1 year ago
@Gaston92146 Yes they were, lol. They're in KOTOR, and i've seen styles like this before 2002 (On the internet)
DoPlease 1 year ago
LOser 1. anakin have shien jem so 2. vder have en fusion from soresu, makashi and ataru
SkywalkerProduction 1 year ago
Uh I think darth vader loses the ability to use djem so because of the suit
NeoGamemaster 2 years ago
These styles are used in Kotor 2. That's how I recognized them
SnIkLeeT 2 years ago
wat does this all mean combat styles
elementdude94 2 years ago
look, you can't just fight a jedi or a sith without any kind of style. For example: Shii-Cho is for many Enemys, Makashi is for Jedi and Soresu for many Enemys with Blasters.
Pascalone01 2 years ago
Jedis use different styles of combat accroding to what they are best at..could you imagine yoda fighting like kenobi or vice versa.
pandaviewer1997 2 years ago
you did your homework! ^^ good job! It would have been nice to have sound. but good info.
jedimaster00000 2 years ago
WMG = We're Majorly Gay
nahor88 2 years ago 14
WMG = We like getting Majorly fucked in the ass by diseased Goats
boojwahz 2 years ago 11
lol
nahor88 2 years ago
Sad that the audio was taken, i was thinking to take the intro as one sound track, by the way what is the name of the song that was in the video?
Airganoth 2 years ago
I love Star Wars. My favorite character is Anakin Skywalker.
wildpig99 2 years ago
Anakin practiced Shien/Djem So since the beginning of his Jedi career.
He used Niman (Jar'Kai) during his first duel with Dooku because he had two lightsabers, why not use them?
Lolnoobrofl 2 years ago 2
I wish someone would remake Episode 4-6 with the same software of Episode 1-3
Wiplash4 3 years ago
I wish they would remake Episodes 1-3 in the same style they did Episodes 4-6. The actors we can keep. Just not so much CG.
siler117 2 years ago 2
But they always remaster them and add new scenes, also George Lucas said that he will turn all 6 films into 3d.
Jamesthealienfreak 2 years ago
No James, he didn't.
SmirnTea 2 years ago
Have a look all over the internet he is.
: )
Jamesthealienfreak 2 years ago
Technically there is no real official saber combat. Its all EU and canon. I doubt George Lucas even knows about all the stiles. :P
Dmasterman 3 years ago
He knows them AND is able to use them.
He's the only one who can use two doublebladed sabers ^^
Oh, and he's able to do the force-fu** xDD
CherubLucifer 2 years ago
I think someone force fucked your head! :D
Dmasterman 2 years ago 2
I was put at Jar'Kai witch I will practice anyone has tips for me??
leighanna23 3 years ago
Alot of people who practice Jar'Kai (duel wielding) study Escrima. Give it a look
c15page 2 years ago
Anakin uses djem sho, faggot.
ElMariachi99 3 years ago
when anakin was using two lightsabers he was using niman or at least the niman variant called jar'kai
novamasterking 3 years ago 3
bastante bueno y la imagenes estan bien cogidas junto con la musica
Zaran666 3 years ago
See... Now that could have been a good idea if you explained what each lightsaber fighting style was, and not just it's name.
And you could have easily done that instead of wasting that other two minutes of showing poorly mixed clips that barely had any time-line, let alone saber combat.
Call me a critic, but I was expecting to LEARN something... Not watch star wars clips put to a song.
BlackHatGraphics 3 years ago
how the fuck do u guys no bout lightsaber styles i seen all the movies and stuff it never says nuthin bout them
jacobfkingtinker 3 years ago
@jacobfkingtinker It is explained in sources such as the Visual Dictionaries and novels. The Episode III novel focuses more heavily on them to describe some scenes, and so does the book Shatterpoint, both written by Matthew Stover. I suggest you read them, they're very good books and explain a lot.
Zecdra 2 years ago
yoda fights with ataru because of his power abd size
minari101 3 years ago
You said there were seven. So why did you list nine styles? (counting the two styles that you listed for Darth Vader.)
killingthyme 3 years ago
Djem so and shien are the same things
Agent2471 3 years ago
Okay, so that makes eight, not seven.
killingthyme 3 years ago
vaapad is an improvement on the juyo form. they are both considered as the 7th form. and djem so and shien are not the same but are both considered as the 5th form
novamasterking 3 years ago
whats yodas style!
LJtricks 3 years ago
ataru
novamasterking 3 years ago
Anakin never used Niman
AustriaDictator 3 years ago
He used it while training as a youngling/or padawan and briefly in the duel with Count Dooku.
LordVoldemortTheOne 3 years ago
its Darth Tyranus, with 1 r lol
Also, every1 used Shii-Cho.
gezorko 3 years ago
no. everybody had an elementary beginning knowlege of Shii-Cho, but only some persued it completely to master it.
ukeplay123 3 years ago
Yay!
Skillet - rebirthing
love that song
00fuchs00 3 years ago
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Anakin is using Jar'Kai, not Niman :P
jonomurphy3 3 years ago
actually, Anakin uses shien.
BaddaBaddaStudios 3 years ago
He was learned in Shien and Ataru, but focused his attention on Djem-So's raw power - accurately depicting his personality.
jonomurphy3 3 years ago
whats the song?
SithaniDirector 3 years ago
rebirth by skillet.
Lelindir 3 years ago
anakin wasn't a master of shien and was only seen using the Jar'kai variant of Shien, before the clone wars he used Ataru and Shien, then after the Duel with Dooku and in the clone wars, he changed his style to Form V variant Djem So. As Darth Vader he mastered Form (Shien and Djem So) using a customized style of them with Soresu and Ataru spots.
thejudge198377 3 years ago
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star wars nerdeness 2 da extreme
joezmomma1223 3 years ago
i think many ppl get Anakin as the shien master thing wrong cuz it seems to odd a coincidence that both his aprentices use shien
v4552 3 years ago
the master doesn't choose his students lightsaber style. Anakin used djem so, the art of using ones force against them.
ukeplay123 3 years ago
i like the form makashi becuse it balances parrying with attaking so you have a good balance there and its also the best aginst other people with lightsabers
ligerdrag20 3 years ago
not the best, as you saw in the death of Dooku, the flaw of Makashi is against advanced Form V users(which anakin is) As shown during Dooku's fatal duel with Anakin, Makashi simply did not generate the necessary kinetic energy to meet Djem So (Skywalker's preferred style) on an even footing. The sheer raw power of Form V wore down Dooku's defenses, physically exhausting him and draining his reserves of Force power.[
thejudge198377 3 years ago
Every style can defeat another.
But yeah - Dooku got wore down by Anakin's power.
jonomurphy3 3 years ago
i like juyo
runescape246810 3 years ago
i think yoda also uses atru and luke uses shien also
platypusguineapig 3 years ago
Yep, Yoda does use Ataru. Luke uses Djem So rather than Shien. :)
FreeManSlasher 3 years ago
Autor of this vid is SW nooooooooob
potanek 3 years ago
is this style or type of cos darth sidious uses fencing
sincamo1 3 years ago
u geek ! anakin is not trained in JAr KAi !
KPKonliner 3 years ago
So what is he trained in?
starseeker1993 3 years ago
Shien and Djem So ! duh !!!
KPKonliner 3 years ago
how do u now this?
XrayJoooooooooolt 3 years ago
According to the Fightsaber article, Anakin was using an Ataru variant of Niman/Jar'Kai when using two sabers against Dooku. Form VI: Niman is a different form to Niman/Jar'Kai, although mastery of Niman helps in mastering Niman/Jar'Kai. :)
FreeManSlasher 3 years ago
Anakin does not use NIman against Dooku during their 1st encounter w/ two lightsabers.
Zirakin 3 years ago
great tune ;) skillet rocks.
studabeg 3 years ago
pls wat is dis cool ass song
joezmomma1223 3 years ago
Rebirthing by skillet
phuzzydude 3 years ago
What's This song? pls tell me
eldervinnie 3 years ago
The music sucks.
Pretty cool video though.
SWolf15 3 years ago
who made this stuff up? lol
InnerLock 3 years ago
anakin was a shien and later on djem so practitioner he was just implementing Jar'Kai in that fight scene and i believe it was a mix of ataru and Jar' Kai but anyway nice vid though :P
copo427zl1 3 years ago
give this person a cookie...woo
Gregoryxlz 3 years ago
also, Yoda was a master of all forms, though his style usually used was Ataru to help compromise for his size.
Dmasterman 3 years ago
If I'm right, the lightsaber forms were only created and explained in the EU or canon material. From what I heard, George has no idea about anything of these styles, and in fact, he just thinks all jedi are master swordsmen. :/
Dmasterman 3 years ago
point taken...
i doubt even he would waste time making up styles when he could just make up more movies like he did for indie and clone wars
brakekobos 3 years ago
Indeed. The only people who probably figured their were ANY styles were the choreographers (Mainly Nick Gillard), but if anything, they were either, fast or hard styles Lol.
Dmasterman 3 years ago
he doesnt usually think the stuff up, he just aproves the stuff.
lordcideon 3 years ago
its good
shortlifenomeaning 3 years ago
Hey "Phuzzydude", I hate to break this to you, but the only reason they came up with different "styles" was to explain why the lightsaber battles in the new films are so much faster and fancier than those of the old movies. It's sad when geeks just take in everything that's spoonfed to them by Lucasfilm. Bascially, the new movies suck.
cadge31 3 years ago
sorry, I misclicked. that's a BAD comment. you might have a point, but even so, no need to be a bad sport about it. Just as it is in the real world, there are different forms of combat. deal.
RevanTheUltimate 3 years ago
Anyone else think that luke skywalker looks like marty from back to the futer?
reddwarfcrazy 3 years ago
me.
phuzzydude 3 years ago
What's the song?
It rocks!
Tithimbosjkk 3 years ago
rebirthing by skillet
phuzzydude 3 years ago
nice. my favorite skillet is The Last Night. But this is good anyway, nice job.
RevanTheUltimate 3 years ago
me 2!!!
shotgunspree99 3 years ago
nice much bettter than mine but at the time i was limited to rots footage but still beter than mine
fantomx29 3 years ago
sorry for my typos lol
enzo2cool22 3 years ago
darth maul was an ataru
Jamilitaryman 3 years ago
no sir darth maul used juyo. Obi-wan used to use atary but when qui-gon died he switched to sorusue or however u spell it
enzo2cool22 3 years ago
specifically, juyo with jar'kai applied to it. he also knew some sort of unarmed combat, can't remember what it's called...
RevanTheUltimate 3 years ago
u mean teras kasi right?
devilhacker86 3 years ago
soresu
cheezeboy654 3 years ago
soresu
lordcideon 3 years ago
darth maul is juyo + teras kasi
devilhacker86 3 years ago
teras kasi isnt one of 7 light saber styles
fantomx29 3 years ago
i know that. i mean darth maul merge his combat form with teras kasi.
devilhacker86 3 years ago
teras kasi is an unarmed style, so its not one of the lightsaber forms
lordcideon 3 years ago
If iam corect, you can find it back in the book "Darth Maul shadowhunter"
Menn019 3 years ago
The lightsaber forms are retcon nonsense. I appreciate your effort with this video, but it's still pointless, because there's no such thing as the seven forms in the Star Wars-movies - especially not vaapad. Vaapad only exists in the expanded universe, not in the movies. The way Samuel Jackson fights in the films has nothing to do what Windu's lightsaber style is described like in the books, sorry.
PeGeProd 4 years ago
I will give you that the seven forms aren't in the films. but who cares? it's still a cool consept ans I happen to like the EU a lot, and I'm not yelling at you that your thinking and I respect that I just happen to like it a lot, so, yeah.
phuzzydude 4 years ago
Well, one could always get out and film something like that on one's own.
Some years ago, I had this idea to make a website with a friend dedicated to the forms of lightsaber combat. We wanted to make a website where you could read all about them, and to provide lightsaber battle videos that demonstrate (our ideas of) those forms.
We never did it, though.
PeGeProd 4 years ago
Although I agree the styles aren't entirely accurate in the movies, except for Yoda's Ataro, Obi-wans Soresu, Tyrannus' Makashi and Anakins Djiem So (not niman as the vid says).
But I thought the forms were made canon a little while back, just after episode II came out.
Weybl 4 years ago
I know they are canon. But I think there's a little difference between "original canon" and "retcon canon".
For example, the Death Star being designed by the geonosians is original canon. But the Death Star being a collaberative design of the geonosians and Bevel Lemelisk is retcon canon.
PeGeProd 4 years ago
Fair point.
But would you agree that the lightsaber styles are more accurately depicted in episodes II and III? I think it's more aparrent who's using what form in the last two than others, wich would make sense since that's when they came up with them.
Weybl 4 years ago
I think that Nick Gillard, the fight choreograph, had some kind of style in mind for each character, of course. Especially in Episode III, where he wanted the fights to be very personal and explain the characters well.
So my guess is that those EU authors or whoever came up with the seven styles in the first place talked with him about this matter and tried to adapt his ideas and explanations in a somewhat canon-like form. It's not perfectly accurate therefore, but not a bad thing either.
PeGeProd 4 years ago
Sounds like a pretty likely scenario to me, also watching the ep.III special features where Nick talks about the 'levels' of lightsaber fighting and like you said, reflecting the characters in the way they fight.
I do think the way they're explained in the EU stuff is pretty awesome though lol
Weybl 4 years ago
I'm hoping to write a book about the lightsaber forms - giving instructions on movement styles, posture, grip, etc. It may be retcon, and you may not see much like them in the movies, but I think I've got some decent ideas of how to do each form. Don't know what people think, but if nothing else, I'd like to do it for myself... Yes, I am a certified nerd. lol.
TheMetalFiddler 3 years ago
makashi all the way
rawrhehe101503 4 years ago
likin the music to go with the clips. but which style do u prefere?
fordpop07 4 years ago
ataru
phuzzydude 4 years ago
lol skillet
Sk8erSpazz180 4 years ago
thank you very much
phuzzydude 4 years ago
well done dude
minari101 4 years ago
Pretty cool
evilmonkeychef 4 years ago
thanks
phuzzydude 4 years ago