Muslims who claim the supremacy of Ishmael need to take note here. Both Patriarchal Parents are given covenant names. God is making his plan very clear: not every son of Abraham is inheriting the promise.
Sorry, but these passages which utterly reject Islamic claims aren't cprrupted by mere fiat of a false prophet. You need more than that. Abraham loved both his sons, no doubt. In fact, Abraham's choice was Ishmael, but God had other plans. Go back and read the verses which you claim are corrupted. Really, I think if the Jews were altering Biblical passages to exclude Ishmael, they could have done a better job!
Micah 7:20; Note: God will be true to the promises made to Jacob, and will be a mercy to Abraham. That promise was initially made in Genesis 12:3 and confirmed in later verses. It was renewed both with Isaac [Genesis 26:3] and Jacob [Genesis 28:14]. Muslims need to explain why the descendants of Ishmael, and therefore Muhammad by way of Keder, play no role in these promises at all.
Muslims should note that the angel addressed Hagar as the servant of Sarai and not as the wife of Abraham. Once she had left his home, she was no longer considered his wife [Genesis 16:3,9; 21:10]. While these relationships have been well discussed in other places, when we are re-examining Israels origins it is worth the effort to review these verses.
It says no such thing in the Quran. In fact if ur saying that Ishmael is a bastard, Then what wud u say if i told u that Isaac was a result of incest.
I would say that to some degree, both statements are true. That said, I never stated that Ishmael was a 'bastard'. In fact, I clearly wrote that Abraham loved both his sons. If you lie about what I say again, you are blocked from making posts to my videos. So, be careful or be gone.
About incest, [1] Abraham and Sara were 1/2 blood, [2] this would not be incest in N.E. or Egyptian law, and [3] the Mosaic covenant hadn't been delivered yet. So, while your post makes no sense, mine does.
In Luke 19:1-10, note here the specific reference to Abraham as being the ancestor of the Jews. I have yet to find independent pre-Islamic references to such a connection documented by Arabs, independent of Jewish or Christian sources.
Hagar was a wife of secondary status the entire time. She would have had no authority in the family and no voice in family management. See 'Hagar in Abraham's Household' at Answering-Islam.
Note that Abraham sent Eliezer back to Haran to find a bride for Isaac. So, while Osama Abdallah may want us to think no tribe or nation was ever a Chosen People, it looks like God, Abraham and Isaac would disagree. There was specific pedigree in mind for his descendants, and it was developing long before there was the covenant.
Abraham was justified by his faith, not deeds [Romans 4]. Remember, he was chosen by God two decades before the covenant of circumcision was given to him [Genesis 12 and 17], yet Abdallah insists that, everyone is evaluated by his deeds.
As Hartley points out, Abrahams devotion to One God would have placed his life in jeopardy. Hartley explains that the native customs of polytheism in which Abraham was familiar would have been dangerous to an emerging monotheism.
Nor is there evidence rom the Quran of any female Prophet in Islam [cf. Kings 22:14-19; II Chronicles 34:23-27]. So, Osama Adballah's claims seem a little shaky.
While Abdallah claims that no race, color or gender has been picked out and made more important than any other, the evidence in the Quran is blurry. After all, there is no indication that a non-Semitic nation has ever been selected to produce a Prophet, yet Q. 10:47 promises that every nation will be blessed with a messenger. So, were are all the messengers for nations like China and America? For regions like Latin America and Europe?
"Dishonest & ignorant"; yes, that describes Abdallah handily.
The muslim mindset reminds me of my childhood tenacity to cling to a lie because I liked it. Santa, the Easter bunny, tooth fairy . . how my heart broke when I discovered the great illusion, and broke even more because I could no longer pretend after coming to truth. But, my soul didn't hang in the balance of trying to cling to a fantasy; muslim souls do, and it is so sad to hear them digging their way to hell with each lie.
Awesome and awesome!!!!! Keep doing the work of God. So important. Love the videos which disprove Islam.
drewbloom34 2 years ago
Great vid and looking forward to part II...
And to SG, below me... I love your vids as well...
Keep it up guys!
Thank you!
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Pinkyapplebuns 3 years ago
Muslims who claim the supremacy of Ishmael need to take note here. Both Patriarchal Parents are given covenant names. God is making his plan very clear: not every son of Abraham is inheriting the promise.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
Ishmael was Abrahams first born son.The promise was made in Ishmael.
THe Jews who altered these bible passages cudnt comprehend that the promise was made in Ishmael, so they altered the biblical passages.
vaj99 2 years ago
Sorry, but these passages which utterly reject Islamic claims aren't cprrupted by mere fiat of a false prophet. You need more than that. Abraham loved both his sons, no doubt. In fact, Abraham's choice was Ishmael, but God had other plans. Go back and read the verses which you claim are corrupted. Really, I think if the Jews were altering Biblical passages to exclude Ishmael, they could have done a better job!
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
Micah 7:20; Note: God will be true to the promises made to Jacob, and will be a mercy to Abraham. That promise was initially made in Genesis 12:3 and confirmed in later verses. It was renewed both with Isaac [Genesis 26:3] and Jacob [Genesis 28:14]. Muslims need to explain why the descendants of Ishmael, and therefore Muhammad by way of Keder, play no role in these promises at all.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
Becuz the old testament wich u follow Had Been given the Jewish nationalist treatment.
vaj99 2 years ago
Muslims should note that the angel addressed Hagar as the servant of Sarai and not as the wife of Abraham. Once she had left his home, she was no longer considered his wife [Genesis 16:3,9; 21:10]. While these relationships have been well discussed in other places, when we are re-examining Israels origins it is worth the effort to review these verses.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
It says no such thing in the Quran. In fact if ur saying that Ishmael is a bastard, Then what wud u say if i told u that Isaac was a result of incest.
vaj99 2 years ago
I would say that to some degree, both statements are true. That said, I never stated that Ishmael was a 'bastard'. In fact, I clearly wrote that Abraham loved both his sons. If you lie about what I say again, you are blocked from making posts to my videos. So, be careful or be gone.
About incest, [1] Abraham and Sara were 1/2 blood, [2] this would not be incest in N.E. or Egyptian law, and [3] the Mosaic covenant hadn't been delivered yet. So, while your post makes no sense, mine does.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
I didnt say u said, this is argument that
many Christians and Jews use.
vaj99 2 years ago
How can Ishmael be a bastard if Abraham was legally Married to Hagar?
vaj99 2 years ago
In Luke 19:1-10, note here the specific reference to Abraham as being the ancestor of the Jews. I have yet to find independent pre-Islamic references to such a connection documented by Arabs, independent of Jewish or Christian sources.
Hagar was a wife of secondary status the entire time. She would have had no authority in the family and no voice in family management. See 'Hagar in Abraham's Household' at Answering-Islam.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
The Jews altered the passages in the bible for nationalist reasons.
vaj99 2 years ago
Actually, it was the Muslims who altered the passages, then called the redacted and badly edited version 'the quran'.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
No there is only one Quran, Bible has 666 different versions.
vaj99 2 years ago
Note that Abraham sent Eliezer back to Haran to find a bride for Isaac. So, while Osama Abdallah may want us to think no tribe or nation was ever a Chosen People, it looks like God, Abraham and Isaac would disagree. There was specific pedigree in mind for his descendants, and it was developing long before there was the covenant.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
Abraham was justified by his faith, not deeds [Romans 4]. Remember, he was chosen by God two decades before the covenant of circumcision was given to him [Genesis 12 and 17], yet Abdallah insists that, everyone is evaluated by his deeds.
As Hartley points out, Abrahams devotion to One God would have placed his life in jeopardy. Hartley explains that the native customs of polytheism in which Abraham was familiar would have been dangerous to an emerging monotheism.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
Nor is there evidence rom the Quran of any female Prophet in Islam [cf. Kings 22:14-19; II Chronicles 34:23-27]. So, Osama Adballah's claims seem a little shaky.
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
While Abdallah claims that no race, color or gender has been picked out and made more important than any other, the evidence in the Quran is blurry. After all, there is no indication that a non-Semitic nation has ever been selected to produce a Prophet, yet Q. 10:47 promises that every nation will be blessed with a messenger. So, were are all the messengers for nations like China and America? For regions like Latin America and Europe?
LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago
"Dishonest & ignorant"; yes, that describes Abdallah handily.
The muslim mindset reminds me of my childhood tenacity to cling to a lie because I liked it. Santa, the Easter bunny, tooth fairy . . how my heart broke when I discovered the great illusion, and broke even more because I could no longer pretend after coming to truth. But, my soul didn't hang in the balance of trying to cling to a fantasy; muslim souls do, and it is so sad to hear them digging their way to hell with each lie.
SGl963 3 years ago
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LothairOfLorraine 3 years ago