@Froorgasim Dave is a douche PERIOD!! They just got done with the new album and Eddie and Dave could not be in the same room during the recording....this is NOT going to end well!! SAMMY, WHERE ARE YOU BRO?!?
@faithycoins How do you know this? Something you heard on the radio or were you in the 5150 studio during recording? I hate speculaion on such things..Dave and the Van Halen bros have been together for years, they looked fine on stage. I like Van Halen with Sammy Hagar like I like ACDC with Brian Johnson, but I started with Dave and Bon...so to me it is great that at least can get back together with Dave...they should get Mike back though and quit screwing around.
if this was a demo this would be more improved from every parts, and if if you listen to any other demos from 78-80 they dont have the same sound like this one
I wonder if Gene Simmons thought of stealing Eddie for Kiss? Then again, SpaceAce was hugely popular and it would have been ridiculous considering Kiss was at the top of their game by 1977.
Oh how to be blessed with being able to grow up in the San Gabriel Valley when "The boys" were in their heyday. I've followed them since their"Mammoth" days into the present. I graduated just a few yrs. after Alx and Eddie from Pasadena High and my mom, God rest her soul from Muir Where Diamond Dave is from. Just alot of great Rock'N'Roll memories. Very few people in this world have been as fortunate as I was to have been born not only in The United States but In the best part
I must have wrote that comment like shit. I did not know the Beat It guitar was Eddie when I first heard it I don't listen to Michael Jackson and had no reason to assume it was Eddie - he did it anonymously. I was pissed because I thought nobody could duplicate Eddie at all and here is this prick on a Michael Jackson song doing it. This was when the song first came out - YES I KNOW IT IS EDDIE
Is it me or does a LOT of these demo songs strangely like the first few Kiss albums? And I don't mean because Simmons paid for the demo, they clearly do not have their signature sound of the early 80's - good shit. I'll never diss the first and only band I ever stop what I did to listen to. Here's a funny, the first time I heard Beat It by Jackson I was pissed because the guitar player sounded exactly like Eddie, nobody has ever come close - then I heard it was him, I knew I was a fan then!
Damn! these guys changed my life. This demo is raw,kind weird but net to hear. Shows the under rated production talents of Ted Templmen (think thats hows you spell his name)
then who is playing that thumping bassline? and although backing vocals are minimal in this demo, SOMEONE is singing them. i do believe i hear Mike in there.
ok...makes sense...didn't realize the demo was recorded that early.
i have "angel eyes" which i think is from that same demo session. i know it was recorded @ Cherokee, anyways....but what i'm wondering is.....is it Dave playing the acoustic guitar on "angel eyes"? or is it Ed? Dave's actually a fairly decent guitarist. (unbeknownst to many).
This version has an entirely different feel to it than the one that ended up on "Women And Children First"(My favorite VH Album).
We covered this when I was in "Love & Rotation and, believe me, this version would have been much easier to pull of than the one we "tried"... Then again, we probably wouldn't have added this version to our setlist because of the mood this demo version creates. I prefer the gritty, down & dirty, smoke-filled, empty whiskey bottles all around version. =VH= RULES!
I was in a band called ON THE ROXX...we "attempted" to play "Big Guns" by Skid Row and it never sounded right...
I know what you mean...
Our originals ROCKED OUT! "Caught In The Act"..."Edge of a Dream"..."Flesh Tattoo", "Love Like a Needle" , "Cryin Shame"... uh, I could go on... "Pretty Deadly"..."Heart of Stone", "London Bridge" "Go For Your Guns"...uh..."Until Forever", "End of Your Rope" what else? "Rip It Up" uhh..."Take a Walk..." we were working on "World of Pain" that was awesome...
sounds like you are experienced at getting facials from your dad's "lollipop." you cum-drunk queer. go die off somewhere with a passy up your ass while you are tossing a fat mans salad.
What I find most interesting about the old demos is how it proves the band evolved over time into greatness. It wasn't totally there in the beginning. It took time and a lot of hard work.
Durr. He's the fuckin lead guitarist and so you need a guitar in you hands (constantly) to perform a song...ya shit-for-brains dill hole. And your insecurity comment..You must be a cock sucking faggot.
This is from the 1973 demos. Take Your Whiskey Home, was before Mike joined the band, which explains the absense in his high-pitched backing vocals. It also explains why they sound different here, Dave sounds younger, and Eddie hadn't yet started tuning his guitar half a step down.
Also, the demo version didn't have the acoustic intro, which isn't here.
Final point, in "VAN HALEN:the early years" Snake guitarist(the band that Mike was in before Van Halen) said that Mike showed him this demo
Boy, I dunno. This doesn't sound like VH to me for a variety of reasons. The key is too high for Dave, there are too many parts to the harmony with no sign of Mike's trademark voice in there and the whole thing is a little too "canned" sounding. VH is just not this crisp.
If it is - Boy somebody kicked their asses on details in the studio for a really long time to get this one done.
I think if you'd presented this without calling it a WACF demos, I'd have guessed it was a cover.
Dave looks like rick medlocke from blackfoot in the shot wearing the silver 80s miami vice outfit :) Or should I say Medlocke was trying too look like DLR in the mid 80s ? HEHE
Wow! Dave's voice sounds so different! I hear Ed and Al used to make Dave smoke and drink right before recording vocals to make his voice sound gravel-ly for the record. This demo is probably more of what he sounded like otherwise.
wow, i´m impressed about EVH guitars, one of the first "frankesteins" with a danelectro neck, incredible. This guy can play with a broom and got the same sound, Eddie rocks
Sure as hell sounds like Dave to me. I searched on here to find this song about a year ago and there was nothing. Thanks for posting this. Demo or whatever VH rocks brother. Now if they would only put their grievances aside and get the hell on tour I'd get my ole 40 year old ass out to The Verizon Center and see them. LOL
This is NOT a demo from the WACF sessions!! This is actually from the very first Van HALEN demo, recorded at Cherokee Studios back in 1974, when Mark Stone was still playing bass. Notice the lack of Mikey in the background vocals.
Didn't every girl just want to be Valerie??? You are loved EVH - here's praying for a full recovery - eff the drugs and drink - don't take it home - your son is more important than them... and your fans love you!!!
Eddie channeling Jimmy Page 1:13
PutItAway101 2 months ago
this really makes me hate sammy hagar, Roth rules
xD0A 2 months ago
This is so cool..
hitmanprodigy 5 months ago
It is from the club days which would have been pre-1978. But it is cool that somebody posted it.
ShinobisZ 6 months ago
@Froorgasim Dave is a douche PERIOD!! They just got done with the new album and Eddie and Dave could not be in the same room during the recording....this is NOT going to end well!! SAMMY, WHERE ARE YOU BRO?!?
faithycoins 6 months ago
@faithycoins How do you know this? Something you heard on the radio or were you in the 5150 studio during recording? I hate speculaion on such things..Dave and the Van Halen bros have been together for years, they looked fine on stage. I like Van Halen with Sammy Hagar like I like ACDC with Brian Johnson, but I started with Dave and Bon...so to me it is great that at least can get back together with Dave...they should get Mike back though and quit screwing around.
ShinobisZ 6 months ago
His guitar sounds so fresh and exhilarating ,after all these years
prasinos37 6 months ago
listen 2 this riff man, so fuckin tasty
CrazyEiche 6 months ago
Dave didn't join until 1974, so this couldn't be before then. I'd say 1975/76
theShowStopper321 10 months ago
if this was a demo this would be more improved from every parts, and if if you listen to any other demos from 78-80 they dont have the same sound like this one
casualguitarplayer 10 months ago
Dis aint DLR sounds more like dat other singer lame onw
stikireferer 10 months ago
@stikireferer This does not sound like sammy hagar. Fail.
This is DLR You cleearly dont know van halen they sounded different a while ago.
And "Dat other singer?" Yah you really know van halen a lot.
kDelPrete101 10 months ago
@kDelPrete101 i didnt listend to the entire song its true dey jus sound good,,nd i know necesary to like van halen alot ...
kennyyankees25 10 months ago
@kennyyankees25 its ok i understand
kDelPrete101 10 months ago
I wonder if Gene Simmons thought of stealing Eddie for Kiss? Then again, SpaceAce was hugely popular and it would have been ridiculous considering Kiss was at the top of their game by 1977.
RhoadsLynch 11 months ago
believe it or not, DLR has a nice tenor quality to his voice on this video!
dappling484 11 months ago
Oh how to be blessed with being able to grow up in the San Gabriel Valley when "The boys" were in their heyday. I've followed them since their"Mammoth" days into the present. I graduated just a few yrs. after Alx and Eddie from Pasadena High and my mom, God rest her soul from Muir Where Diamond Dave is from. Just alot of great Rock'N'Roll memories. Very few people in this world have been as fortunate as I was to have been born not only in The United States but In the best part
drenspies 1 year ago
wow Daves voice is amazing !!!! , no mikey
downincognito76 1 year ago
Eddie looks funny with a Les Paul
DelPellezin 1 year ago
His second solo was like a cleanly executed, fiery, pumped up version of Jimmy Page.
theShowStopper321 1 year ago
I agree with u. This version is a lil better...n faster/funky. Thx 4 sharing.
recman1207 1 year ago
I like this version better than the original.
Cyclonus21 1 year ago
For a long time, I thought Dave was singing -
BIG BITCH YOU'RE HEADED FOR A WHOLE LOTTA TROUBLE.
policefan1982 1 year ago
I must have wrote that comment like shit. I did not know the Beat It guitar was Eddie when I first heard it I don't listen to Michael Jackson and had no reason to assume it was Eddie - he did it anonymously. I was pissed because I thought nobody could duplicate Eddie at all and here is this prick on a Michael Jackson song doing it. This was when the song first came out - YES I KNOW IT IS EDDIE
592220 1 year ago
simple great riff
zwaqster 1 year ago
This sounds like it could be a Simmons demo from 1976.
johnnybeane 1 year ago
Is it me or does a LOT of these demo songs strangely like the first few Kiss albums? And I don't mean because Simmons paid for the demo, they clearly do not have their signature sound of the early 80's - good shit. I'll never diss the first and only band I ever stop what I did to listen to. Here's a funny, the first time I heard Beat It by Jackson I was pissed because the guitar player sounded exactly like Eddie, nobody has ever come close - then I heard it was him, I knew I was a fan then!
592220 2 years ago
the beat it solo was eddie
Gibsonwilshire 1 year ago
@592220 The Beat It solo was Eddie man. R u being sarcastic I hope
theShowStopper321 1 year ago
@592220 gene was their producer
codyjt5150 1 year ago
Dave had a more pronounced mid-70's vocal style on this track........I like it better when his voice became deeper and whiskey-stained.
Hunkola 2 years ago
Much cooler version!!
guitarmemtenn 2 years ago
Much better version! Less production and commercial sounding! But it was mostly about LP sales I guess?
record1207 2 years ago
Clearly the song structure is better than the album. This version of the song has way more attitude.
rjpilot 2 years ago
This is definitely Van Halen and definitely not from 1980....perhaps from '76 around the time they were playing live demos of 'Fools'...?
drumass666 2 years ago
I think so.
johnnybeane 1 year ago
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drumass666 2 years ago
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Nope...not Van Halen...not Ed, not Roth, Not Alex, not Michael.
Nope!!
YoBroMan 2 years ago
i wish i knew where u drugs are
frankenstrat25 2 years ago
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Not Roth !
Not Van Halen !
666patrickbateman666 2 years ago
pretty cool
MGVHALEN 2 years ago
eddy has an ARMADILLO in his pants at 1:25!!!!
dgdgdg100172 2 years ago 2
ppretty sure this isnt from 1980
iownallnoobs 2 years ago 10
why didn't they keep the vocal harmonies for the album version? shame
nuno123 2 years ago
he plays guitar for the band, why wouldn't he be playing the guitar in the pics?
godofthunder1681 2 years ago
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the bass sounds like ice 9 by joe satriani
godofthunder1681 2 years ago
these guys' music is unlike anything else out there, you can't help it like it!!!
zzzthaoster 2 years ago 14
@zzzthaoster Damn straight!
Guitfiddlejase 1 year ago
Damn! these guys changed my life. This demo is raw,kind weird but net to hear. Shows the under rated production talents of Ted Templmen (think thats hows you spell his name)
PaulGioia 3 years ago 3
my life too. you're on the money about templeman.
rotatingwah 2 years ago 2
This is killer..really hard-edged...
SpikeMichaels 3 years ago
Mikey is not singing on this demo or playing
EVHguitarz 3 years ago
then who is playing that thumping bassline? and although backing vocals are minimal in this demo, SOMEONE is singing them. i do believe i hear Mike in there.
ZebZachary 3 years ago
Mark Stone, this is a 1974 demo, before Mike was in the band
vhfanjack 3 years ago
ok...makes sense...didn't realize the demo was recorded that early.
i have "angel eyes" which i think is from that same demo session. i know it was recorded @ Cherokee, anyways....but what i'm wondering is.....is it Dave playing the acoustic guitar on "angel eyes"? or is it Ed? Dave's actually a fairly decent guitarist. (unbeknownst to many).
ZebZachary 3 years ago 3
i believe its dave, because i have a photo of him playing guitar from that session
vhfanjack 3 years ago
This version has an entirely different feel to it than the one that ended up on "Women And Children First"(My favorite VH Album).
We covered this when I was in "Love & Rotation and, believe me, this version would have been much easier to pull of than the one we "tried"... Then again, we probably wouldn't have added this version to our setlist because of the mood this demo version creates. I prefer the gritty, down & dirty, smoke-filled, empty whiskey bottles all around version. =VH= RULES!
mcsantiago64 3 years ago
I was in a band called ON THE ROXX...we "attempted" to play "Big Guns" by Skid Row and it never sounded right...
I know what you mean...
Our originals ROCKED OUT! "Caught In The Act"..."Edge of a Dream"..."Flesh Tattoo", "Love Like a Needle" , "Cryin Shame"... uh, I could go on... "Pretty Deadly"..."Heart of Stone", "London Bridge" "Go For Your Guns"...uh..."Until Forever", "End of Your Rope" what else? "Rip It Up" uhh..."Take a Walk..." we were working on "World of Pain" that was awesome...
SpikeMichaels 3 years ago
Lose the mullet spike. Times they are a changin'...
slingkey 2 years ago
Sounds damn good!
marked95128 3 years ago
THIS STUFFS IS WAILING
clkbklyn 3 years ago
Cool!
Thanks for sharing!
Simonthehead 3 years ago
sounds like you are experienced at getting facials from your dad's "lollipop." you cum-drunk queer. go die off somewhere with a passy up your ass while you are tossing a fat mans salad.
Biskitt5 3 years ago
What I find most interesting about the old demos is how it proves the band evolved over time into greatness. It wasn't totally there in the beginning. It took time and a lot of hard work.
hummarstra 3 years ago 4
Durr. He's the fuckin lead guitarist and so you need a guitar in you hands (constantly) to perform a song...ya shit-for-brains dill hole. And your insecurity comment..You must be a cock sucking faggot.
Biskitt5 3 years ago
This is from the 1973 demos. Take Your Whiskey Home, was before Mike joined the band, which explains the absense in his high-pitched backing vocals. It also explains why they sound different here, Dave sounds younger, and Eddie hadn't yet started tuning his guitar half a step down.
Also, the demo version didn't have the acoustic intro, which isn't here.
Final point, in "VAN HALEN:the early years" Snake guitarist(the band that Mike was in before Van Halen) said that Mike showed him this demo
vhfanjack 3 years ago 4
thanks for that insight... good post for all VH fans
Brad
x351ar0 3 years ago
Boy, I dunno. This doesn't sound like VH to me for a variety of reasons. The key is too high for Dave, there are too many parts to the harmony with no sign of Mike's trademark voice in there and the whole thing is a little too "canned" sounding. VH is just not this crisp.
If it is - Boy somebody kicked their asses on details in the studio for a really long time to get this one done.
I think if you'd presented this without calling it a WACF demos, I'd have guessed it was a cover.
shadageeirish 3 years ago
I like the back vocal part mostly in this version.
legionerist 3 years ago
i just love van halen, they're the best and everybody who thinks differnt (against them) is an idiot and can fuck the fuck off
smaragdna 3 years ago
I definetly like the final version better :)It has more bottom and balls than this version.
atomicplayboy4u 3 years ago
Dave looks like rick medlocke from blackfoot in the shot wearing the silver 80s miami vice outfit :) Or should I say Medlocke was trying too look like DLR in the mid 80s ? HEHE
atomicplayboy4u 3 years ago
that doesn't sound like mike... i mean it sort of does but mike has more soul in his voice... are ya sure it isnt mark stone
GooBooFilms 3 years ago
Much better than the "Woman and Children first" Version. Very Nice Harmony Vocals!
AndreasDecker 3 years ago
This is a very young VH. Awesome.
jt1775 3 years ago
Yeah, this was DEFENATLY off the cherokee demos from 1973 with Mark Stone on Bass. Other songs from that demos include Angel Eyes and Fools.
zackvanhalen 4 years ago
"Trust me, NOBODY had to MAKE Dave smoke and drink!More like make him stop!" *laughing*
He's a health freak nowadays, but the man likes to enjoy himself. Hey, who doesn't.
willsclassic 4 years ago
ABSOLUTE GOLD!
Gotta love the internet.
Saw them in Boston 07.
From the second they took the stage....till the time they left....they FUCKIN ROCKED!
No fuckin around! Just 100% Rock and Roll!
What happened to ROCK music anyway.....
I remember it....
and I'm pretty sure it was a good thing.
wadebud 4 years ago
Much cooler version, rocks harder and better key changes.
mikebecker330 4 years ago
thats dave. cool demo
MGVHALEN 4 years ago
You are correct, this was recorded LONG before WACF was done.
brownsound1 4 years ago
This sounds so much different than WACF...sounds alot like the Gene Simmon's demos.
steveinmidtown 4 years ago
I LOVE YOU MAN,TY
kenwen43 4 years ago
Wow! Dave's voice sounds so different! I hear Ed and Al used to make Dave smoke and drink right before recording vocals to make his voice sound gravel-ly for the record. This demo is probably more of what he sounded like otherwise.
Elpdude 4 years ago
Trust me, NOBODY had to MAKE Dave smoke and drink!More like make him stop!
r8ersfan 4 years ago 3
Awesome!
CosmicAstralCode 4 years ago
best vh album of all time
1st is pure gemz thats right but wacf is the mst partyer whit dimond dave completly wildz
patmix 4 years ago
wow, i´m impressed about EVH guitars, one of the first "frankesteins" with a danelectro neck, incredible. This guy can play with a broom and got the same sound, Eddie rocks
vocalworks 4 years ago
Ed did play with a broom on VH 3 album, and yes! it did sound like Ed!! King Edward forever!!
Champane97 4 years ago
Sure as hell sounds like Dave to me. I searched on here to find this song about a year ago and there was nothing. Thanks for posting this. Demo or whatever VH rocks brother. Now if they would only put their grievances aside and get the hell on tour I'd get my ole 40 year old ass out to The Verizon Center and see them. LOL
RUMSHUK 4 years ago
No..thats Dave alright.
slyangler 4 years ago
that dosent sound like DLR either.
PeteFlob 4 years ago
wow, lol.thanks for sharing.
theratfarmer 4 years ago
Dude where do you get these f'ing gems??
satchbooggy 4 years ago
This is not from 1980...this is from their club days.
Skibble5150 4 years ago 4
Well it was on the WACF Demos, so I called it as I saw it.
5150EVH5150 4 years ago
@Skibble5150 I'm wondering if that's even VH, the vocals give it away.
MarquisEstelle 11 months ago
right or wrong it's interesting reading your comments...regardless, these music gems are special...to me anyway...it's like ...
"new mighty van halen"
philwin1X 4 years ago
that doesnt sound like mike anthony
diverdownup5150noho 4 years ago
This is NOT a demo from the WACF sessions!! This is actually from the very first Van HALEN demo, recorded at Cherokee Studios back in 1974, when Mark Stone was still playing bass. Notice the lack of Mikey in the background vocals.
FORDCOUNTRY 4 years ago 8
No, Mikeys there, thats not Ed hitting the background notes.
5150EVH5150 4 years ago
@5150EVH5150 I don't hear any real high notes dude or anthoneys tone sorry
AssassinSteven 1 year ago
Didn't every girl just want to be Valerie??? You are loved EVH - here's praying for a full recovery - eff the drugs and drink - don't take it home - your son is more important than them... and your fans love you!!!
hbrocks12 4 years ago
awesome man, thanks for posting it.
rockstar92450 4 years ago