Headzup: Hillary's "Popular Vote Count"

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[winterice67]

Hillary lack of integrity and basic decency is simply disgusting.

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HITLARY--CAN'T BEAT McBUSH SHE CAN'T EVEN BEAT A GUY WITH A NAME LIKE OBAMA..Obama08

[suckitjesus2]

Hillary Clinton is a NEOCON racist murdering bitch. I hope there's a hell so she can roast there for all eternity. It appears all this "experience" hasn't done anything to help her judgement.

GRAVEL NADER MCKINNEY '08 - Truth to power

[govspysonallchats]

/watch?v=h00xiDWvO-o

Here is where howdard dean said michigan and florida will count. They will not disenfranchise two of the biggest general election states just because the republican majority in the florida state legislator wants to play games with the democratic party's political system. Theres a quote of them laughing at the democrats trying to move it back just 2 weeks, go look it up. Republicans helping bush's counsin obama? Never they wouldnt disenfranchise FL voters :D

[hypnofan35]

I'm so happy..... Oh so happy..... Let me tell you why! Fah La Fa La Tra La Tra la

[BigFatTonyCal]

I did'nt know we could vote in this country.

[cincinnatusnow]

Spin spin spin Lie lie lie-anything to get a vote Sheesh-and what about the civil lawsuit in LA ? Hillery will divide the democrats and then devide the nationif she manages to get elected.

[govspysonallchats]

Harold Ickes said "we understand on very, very good authority" that Michigan legislators believe both campaign's consent would be necessary for a re-vote. He said that since the Clinton campaign was publicly in favor of a re-vote, the Obama campaign must be blocking the effort. Phil Singer said that in Florida, where a re-vote now seems very unlikely, "what is going on right now is a passive-aggressive effort on behalf of the Obama campaign to disenfranchise the voters of Florida."

[govspysonallchats]

obviously obama is disenfranchising florida voters to win the election. Wow i have never heard of anything like that before... OH WAIT 2000 Bush election. Oh wait isnt obama bush's cousin... and they use the same tactics to win elections? Oh no he isnt a republican plant is he. Duh. Oooooobaaaaamaaaaa followers cant see the forest from the trees ;)

[jonathanwindham]

Michigan and Florida disenfranchised themselves when they chose to give every state waiting in line in front of them the middle finger, and Clinton was for disenfranchising them when it looked like she had the nomination sewn up, Id like to point out that Clinton waited until she knew she was going to win those states to suddenly become their champion.

[govspysonallchats]

so your rational for disenfranchizing voters is "SHE DID IT TOO" and "THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES". Really big of you and shows the mentality of obama cult worshipers.

Whatever you may think about the situation, disefranchizing poeople is not an option. Plus Howard Dean just publically stated sunday "Florida and Michgan will be seated". So there you have it obama lost Clinton wins thx bye aha

[jonathanwindham]

Hillary only wants the votes to count if the votes are for her (that's why her rational for the popular vote involves not counting caucus votes), both her and her supporters waited until they knew she would win those states to become their champion.

I am merely pointing out a Hypocrisy.

[govspysonallchats]

Then you agree that the votes should be counted? Hypocrisy or not why would you endorce disenfranchizement like obama does, unless its just so you can win. That sounds worse then hypocrisy if you ask me.

Should everyones vote count or not, thats the real issue here not he said/she said. Deal with it, Florida and Michigan are gona count if you like it or not, obama taking his name off the ballot cause hes a coward wont stop peoples votes from counting :D

[jonathanwindham]

Considering that Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan that means his supporters were disenfranchised, so it's not ok to disenfranchise clinton supporters but it is ok to disenfranchise Obama supporters?

[jonathanwindham]

And I do support counting Florida.

[govspysonallchats]

Both michigan and florida will count, howard dean already said they will on meet the press sunday, so if you want to disenfranchise voters just because obama took his name off the ballot it dont really matter. You dont get to decide who's votes count and whos doesnt. Thank God or we'd live in a dictatorship obviously, run by whom ever is cultish type person thrown all over your tv and youtube 24/7 :D

[govspysonallchats]

jonathanwindham: "Considering that Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan that means his supporters were disenfranchised"

Wonderful point, guess who took his own name off the ballot... you guessed it obama. He disenfranchised his own voters and wants to do the same to everyone else because he knew he was going to loose there badly.

Thanks for proving the point that obama wants to subvert democracy by taking his name off the ballot then throwing out michigan :D

[jonathanwindham]

what happened to the "THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES" criticism?

[govspysonallchats]

your comparing someone agreeing to their partys rules to him taking his name off the ballot intentionally to subvert democracy? Ever heard the saying "Cant see the forest from the trees?"

Every single arguement you have is based on "SHE DID IT TOO" You sound like a republican honestly lol.

[jonathanwindham]

So is your arguement to the Obama supporters whose names were not on the ballot, the difference is I am not Simultaneously insisting all the votes should count while Approving the disenfranchisement of the openent's votes.

You critisize what I say as the "they did it to themselves" criticism while using the same arguement to justify disenfranchisement of Obama supporters, and the party is meeting to discuss whether or not the delegates should count at 50%.

[govspysonallchats]

Clinton publically called for a recount on the vote, we're still waiting to hear obama offically say he wants a recount and the michigan legislator cannot do a recount without both campaigns go ahead. Therefor obama is the one disenfranchising his voters because he knows he will lose badly.

You are blaming obama's own actions on other people, that does not make any sense unless you are merely trying to smear people while subverting democracy intentionally.

[jonathanwindham]

You still haven't answered my question.

Is it ok for Hillary's version of "Having the votes count" disenfranchise people who didn't happen to support her?

[govspysonallchats]

I dont think you understand, the votes should count even if obama took his name off the ballot to try to subvert the democratic process. He knew he was going to loose badly and the votes would be counted later, give me a break they wont throw out millions of registered voters just because obama is a cry baby...

Your theory is that people are being disenfranchised because of the actions of their own canidate? You simply dont see that he did it in purpose, you think he made a mistake?

[govspysonallchats]

Lets go with the theory that obama made a HUGE mistake taking his name off the ballot in mighigan and is still making a mistake preventing a recount...

He seems to make alot of mistakes first off, can barely give a debate without being spoon fed questions. You are trying to tell me that I am suggesting that voters be disenfranchised by their own canidate? Wow talk about "Double Thought". You think its my fault when obama did it then you say i am saying its obama supports fault? weird :D

[jonathanwindham]

It is a simple yes or no question, I would appriciate if you would answer it.

Is it ok for Hillary's version of "Having the votes count" disenfranchise people who didn't happen to support her?

[govspysonallchats]

Wow you really are a republican supporting obama, yes or no (doesnt she do it too!) lol

what ever your thoughts are trying to throw out millions of votes is total idiocy and the death of the democratic party in florida and michigan. You can say "SHE DID IT TOO" all you want and cry foul kicking while screaming.

Frankly you sound like you are hard at work dividing the party because you know obama has failed his mission to cut clinton down. So your new goal is divid and conquer. Easy to see.

[prodprod]

If you think Clinton would be fighting now to reinstate Florida and Michigan if Obama had the lead in those states and reinstating them would widen his lead rather than helping her, you're living in a dream world. She wants them back, even though she agreed to their exclusion because her "principle" is winning -- not enfranchisement.

The time to change the rules is before the game starts, not 3/4 of the way through, when you suddenly realize that a rule change is the only way to win.

[govspysonallchats]

Its not Clinton that will have the votes counted, go look it up. The people of florida and michigan are really mad that obama is trying to throw them to the winds and act like they dont count because of his "rules".

What candidate does not support democracy and the will of the people, he is a shame.

If your gona win, you better make sure ALL states have a chance to voice their opinion through the election process and we havent even started the general election yet! looks very bad for obama..

[govspysonallchats]

I never said anything about not allowing a recount, I am saying that if there is no recount (which obama himself is actively blocking for reasons obvious) that the votes should not be thrown out because of one or the others actions. He made the choice to take his name off the ballot and he chooses to not allow a revote either. This does not look like the type of person you want as president, this looks like his cousin.. bush.

[govspysonallchats]

I dont think ive mentioned obama supporters one time in all of my talking except maybe the remarks towards cultish personality lol. You guys seem to follow him blindly into the wind thats all, I am surprised you have not fainted while typing yet lol.

Maybe you cheer when the man scratch his nose, i dont really care but the guy is disenfranchising millions of general election voters to win the nomination? Sound like hes gona get those votes? NOPE :D

[jonathanwindham]

You have thrown out the cult insult a couple of times, I think you are just dismissing his campaign as a cult because you are frustrated by the lack of enthusiasm in the Clinton campaign, you also said "I am surprised you have not fainted while typing yet" which leads me to point out in our discussion you have done slightly more typing than me.

[govspysonallchats]

Of course i am typing more then you because I have more to go on then "DOESNT SHE DO IT TOO". I have researched this issue and come to my conclusion based on information outside of youtube and the mainstream media. If you think that my opinion is less because I have more to say well... LOL good one keep trying ;)

Frankly obama fantics cheering while he scratches his nose is kinda creepy to me, i dont know if you do it too but you seem to want to argue 1 point to no end. That seems fanatical.

[jonathanwindham]

If anyone has failed to cut anyone down it is Clinton, she started out as the party's inevitable nominee and has throughout most of this process only lost ground. To answer your question no I am not a republican, and now you are throwing out more accusations that go both ways. Also, the you do it too rhetoric is because the difference between you and me that you are a hypocrit. And you still have beaten around the bush and have yet to answer a simple yes or now question, goodnight.

[jonathanwindham]

*correction change now to no

[govspysonallchats]

Talk about bush, obamas cousin? He is disenfranchising florida voters just like Bush did in the election of 2000. He refuses a revote yet he wont let the votes count. He took his name off the ballot in michigan and refuses a revote there too.

You can say "She did it too" all you want but when it comes down to it Clinton is for a revote and with it or not the votes will count and Obama will lose.

Good night and keep the hope alive ;)

[jonathanwindham]

If Clinton wins the nomination I will vote for her.

[nickMAN1025]

Just so you know, the Democratic Party told all Democrats that are running for president not to campaign in Michigan. They did this as a slap on the hand to all of us Michiganians for making our primary so much earlier than usual. Technically, Hillary Clinton was in the wrong because she was not supposed to campaign at all. None of the Democrats were supposed to even be on the ballot.

[iTellYouNoLie]

Ron Paul is the only guy telling you the truth, EVERY other candidate left lies, cheats, and is robbing you blind IE inflation. Wake the fuck up, we're here to help, and you ain't makin' this easy. Why do YOU think gas cost double the price of 7 years ago? Its not supply/demand either.

[gnorville]

If it's not supply/demand, what is it? If Paul is elected can he reverse the rise of gas prices?

[BarackObamadotcon1]

its inflation, google money masters, and fiat empire, two very informative documentaries.

the market is screwed up under our federal reserve system, they created the problems we're having right now.

[iTellYouNoLie]

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[S1Genocide]

LOL go ahead vote for Obama lose all the latinos and whites. I will take 30% of the party with me If Obama is the nominee. you have already lost by bashing the Clintons and following the media bias. Enjoy another easy victory loss in 2008.

[mclev]

Wow, u sure wield a lot of power.

[mclev]

I dont know why every comment is about ron paul but i figure i'll thro in my 2 cents about him. Decent guy, actually has values which i rare for a republican, but only way he'd ever get elected is if they held the election on youtube. What happened to the ron paul revolution? Every time i saw primary results he was at about 5%. Some revolution, huh?

[bynddrvn5]

What happened to the Ron Paul Revolution?!

Faux News is what happened! Fox news turned on Ron Paul like a pack of wild dogs and ripped his insides out.

[Buckeyes1647]

Obama REMOVED himself from the ballot in Michigan, he didn't have to. Apparently, he felt party politics was more important than getting the nomination.

[dookdawg214]

To understand the real delegate math and see why it's very important that Hillary get out now (at least, if you're a democrat), see my latest video (and read the text description because that explains it better).

[gymer15]

why are people still writing about rue paul..oops i ment ron paul.

[ScarletLetterR]

RP

08

[sk4t3b0ard]

ron paul 08

[cierancieran]

Hillary, Democrat in Name Only

In the 60's, was a Goldwater girl Republican.

In the 70's as a "democrat", tried to deny legal counsel to Nixon in an apparent effort to give him grounds for appeal. Attempt failed.

In the 80's, was on the board of Wal-Mart during their meteoric rise to infamy. Mena drug smuggling & ADFA.

In the 90's, divisive politics lost the House to the Repugs. Vince Foster. Whitewater.

In the 00's, becomes a carpetbagger senator that voted for the Iraq War and soon Iran.

[IWBF]

Shades of Chimpy.

[rg321123]

Man I loath that beast

[WNC4RonPaul]

Vote Ron Paul...there is still time to save the Republic!!!!

[runkaballe]

The guy is an anarchist, you'll sink like a stone...

[Buckeyes1647]

Do you know the definition of Anarchy? It means to have NO GOVERNMENT at all. Ron Paul wants the federal government to follow the constitution. You know, that document that tells the federal government its' powers. That thing that has been selectively avoided since FDR decided to promote socialism in America. Social programs are not American.

[runkaballe]

Yes I do and he's still a anarchist..

He want to sell you out and you'll go down the toilet.

"Social programs are not American". To have a working class you have to have a public educational system and atleast minimum healthcare. Sick stupid workers do not produce anything.

[ThunderPigBlog]

Democrats vs. Democrats is a beautiful thing.

I may weep.

With Joy.

[ScoobieDavisBlog]

Crude and lowbrow but true

[R3B3L7]

All that matters to the Clintons are the Clintons...

[hypnofan35]

Hillary may well be an evil plant of secret societies. She seems evil, and that smile is about as weird as weird gets.

[michaelbook18]

lol so true. That's her Attitude. She's ruining her rep among Democrats by doing this shit.

[MargeAggedon]

Yes it's all about the voters, right hilly? At least until they stop voting for you.

[S1Genocide]

fuck Heazup your so bias now its not even funny see my background image HILLARY WILL WIN

[R3B3L7]

Telling the truth is not BIAS. If this was about Obama you would be posting a totally different comment and judging from your profile you are a RACIST...

[jonathanwindham]

you are quick so speak ill of headzup yet you never challenge what they say, do you dislike it for a legitimate reason or are you just badmouthing it because it gives information you don't like to hear?

[jonathanwindham]

And your map is innacurate, I live in washington, which as a caucus state that voted overwelmingly for Obama but you map has the state as undelclared, and if clinton were to narrowly win in every state where obama is leading from now to the convention she would still be trailing in delegates.

[gallomex13]

I didn't vote here in Florida Because I know my corrupt State wouldn't change their mind about the delegate situation and pushing the dates. I know a few people that did the same and guess what most of them support OBAMA. Hillary whatever good your husband did you have fucked it up completely with your bullshit no wonder he cheated on your Hypocrite ass.

[revcarson]

When Hillary finally wins the presidency we will finally know how rigged our election system is. I have the feeling it is now a prerequisite to be of the right last name to enter the office to ever be president. Any new blood would keel over upon finding out the details for the first time. That or they would have many of our leaders arrested.

[Loserido]

You guys are... the best!