I love Tong Long Kung Fu it gave me Balance in my life i did it for almost 5yrs at Wynnum under Sifi Paul.then i got married had 2 beauitful childern i so miss it.but i still remember everything well almost lol.this video inspired me to make some more time to go back to training even thou i dont work in niteclubs anymore. i miss the sense of inner pride & balance. anyway Thanks for posting this vid! Great motivational Vid 2012 i will time for my Training
my only concern with this brand of kung fu is that it seems rather inefficient when compared to other centerline styles. i use the term inefficient because they seem to use more strikes when it appears that they don't need to. my kung fu background has been in wing chun and northern mantis. i know that southern is a completely different animal but the focus of these strikes tend to negate the other gates?
@snarkhouse Being a new student and having a basic understanding, I can't give you a detailed explanation. All the hits are totally controlled, meaning they can stop after one two or even four hits. The power is the same throughout the strikes so mid strikes are just as damaging as the last strike. It may look like it's a set move but it is far from it. It's a case of having a counter move + backups for every strike from an aggressor. The theories you learn at this school are just amazing.
I have been subject to confrontations with a few individuals that have aligned with a certain unfriendly group of people.... They had no problems going down when I fired loose with a Gau Choi. Thats another story I guess. I practice like my life depends on it each day and pray for peace each day. I used to believe in taking sides on the different Southern Mantis branches. I don't anymore. Chow Gar is perfect for me but, it might not be for someone else. Better to embrace than criticize.
This art is one of the most practical and one of the most traditional arts that i have known throughout my research of kung fu styles. Its sheer beauty is the very definition of art. Now what i notice about the art is that it uses the control of the centerline and principles similar to Bak Mei to overcome opponents. What i do see lacking are kicks and to me that is very important in stand up fighting.Still a great art though no lie.
Because of all the foundation training the school instills ( ie chy sau and doi jong ) the hands never hit past shoulder width and all the energy is concentrated within that small space. Dedication and perservance is all that is required to become a true master like these students.
@scarecrow104 Sifu Terry and Si - Mo. I hope you and your family are well and that the school is prospering. My years of training in the Tong Long family in Ashmore have not left me. The art has become apart of who I am,(although ceased training) it will never leave my mind, body or soul. Scarecrow, you are privileged to be trained by such a master of not only martial arts, but a master in life and philosophy.
are there great variations to the mantis styles? i will be starting soon at a place in south australia but this style in general is the type of mantis that really interests me especially the technicality of it. it is my understanding that Northern mantis is different but is this the usual southern style? the place i am starting at soon is southern style.
@Colbie6 The fellas here are only shown performing Jongs to showcase their understanding and application of various techniques to their Sifu for grading. Jongs are not really used to fight as such, rather (among other things I'm sure) they are used to help the practioner to become familar with techniques and their applications, and their repetition helps to create automation in the bodies reaction to certain stimuli.
But I defy anybody to be still standing in the first seconds at full power.
If you have ever had the opportunity to feel a hit from a high level Circular Tong Long fighter you will either get knocked out straight away or you will feel a shock that stops you from reacting for a split second and this gives them enough time to hit you / shock you over and over again. You will notice that at the start of every combo the person getting hit has come in with an attacking move and has been easily controlled and hit instantly. Don't forget in this video they are holding back.
@YoungCrs Yes & no, it all depends on the individual school and each school may have a different method on how they do it. At the school I teach at stage 1 is touch sparring to the body only. Then when the student shows good control they progress to touch sparring to the head & body and then again when they show enough control they can progress to anything goes sparring (light power) using fingerless gloves, groin protection, shin gaurds and headgear that has a caged face shield.
Realise that 9 times out of ten the first hit will drop an opponent because there are no gloves involved. If still standing then we hit them multiple times just to be sure. If they can take that first hit than they will likley be seeing stars etc which will make them immobile to some extent. That is why fighting sports need referees so that they can quickly jump in & stop a fight because people can't defend themselves properly when they are stunned.
To see the real beauty in this video carefully watch the first couple of moves of each combination. You will see defence, attack & control combined into one. One thing you might not realise due to the editing is that at some stages a master is surrounded by 4 or 5 other masters and they are attacked from all directions without prior knowledge of who is going to attack next and they have to defend, control and do rapid firestriking all at the same time on each person.
back in the day people would walk a thousand miles to learn this art, now it's in australia... it's a 8 min pushie ride from home??? as if i'm not going to make the most of it!! a true gift!
I want to thank you for the privledege of watching this awesome display of time,talent and above all disire to master an art. Sifu Sue thank you Sir for allowing us to see this great art.
Sifu Henry Sue is a truly gifted man, and has given wonderfully to his community, and martial arts generally. This video is a superb demonstration of the skills of his masters. Make no mistake, these guys are incredibly talented. This video should be obligatory viewing for anyone wanting to know the true pinnacle of the arts.
ok dont get me wrong, i respect the technique fully as i am also a mantis practitioner, but i cant stand training (especially for testing) where the opponent is standing still after the first strike. it just plain dont work like that. for lower ranked testing ok, because your JUST learning the skills. but for high level it should b more realistic. thats just my own personal thought, no offense at all.
other than that, good job and congratulations to everyone involved. thanks for the video
I wonder what is the secret of the attacking speed? How do they train that? Is it circular movments?
suissecarnifex 2 months ago
I love Tong Long Kung Fu it gave me Balance in my life i did it for almost 5yrs at Wynnum under Sifi Paul.then i got married had 2 beauitful childern i so miss it.but i still remember everything well almost lol.this video inspired me to make some more time to go back to training even thou i dont work in niteclubs anymore. i miss the sense of inner pride & balance. anyway Thanks for posting this vid! Great motivational Vid 2012 i will time for my Training
Best Regards Simon.. :)
Diggernut1 2 months ago
@Diggernut1 heyy simon i recently started kung fu with sifu paul hes a very talented man same with andrew i love it there
lguitarn 1 month ago
my only concern with this brand of kung fu is that it seems rather inefficient when compared to other centerline styles. i use the term inefficient because they seem to use more strikes when it appears that they don't need to. my kung fu background has been in wing chun and northern mantis. i know that southern is a completely different animal but the focus of these strikes tend to negate the other gates?
snarkhouse 2 months ago
@snarkhouse Being a new student and having a basic understanding, I can't give you a detailed explanation. All the hits are totally controlled, meaning they can stop after one two or even four hits. The power is the same throughout the strikes so mid strikes are just as damaging as the last strike. It may look like it's a set move but it is far from it. It's a case of having a counter move + backups for every strike from an aggressor. The theories you learn at this school are just amazing.
tabroification 2 months ago
I have been subject to confrontations with a few individuals that have aligned with a certain unfriendly group of people.... They had no problems going down when I fired loose with a Gau Choi. Thats another story I guess. I practice like my life depends on it each day and pray for peace each day. I used to believe in taking sides on the different Southern Mantis branches. I don't anymore. Chow Gar is perfect for me but, it might not be for someone else. Better to embrace than criticize.
cthomas1701 3 months ago
If I am going somewhere to train praying mantis I know where to go. =)
Kondo87 4 months ago
Sick speed. Nice vid.
Jaremus 5 months ago
@ofir74bonen not 1 of , it IS the deadliest ! dont forget wing chun too both are the deadliest kung fu styles ever created~ haha
MechPhantom 8 months ago
This art is one of the most practical and one of the most traditional arts that i have known throughout my research of kung fu styles. Its sheer beauty is the very definition of art. Now what i notice about the art is that it uses the control of the centerline and principles similar to Bak Mei to overcome opponents. What i do see lacking are kicks and to me that is very important in stand up fighting.Still a great art though no lie.
kickboxer1391 10 months ago
Because of all the foundation training the school instills ( ie chy sau and doi jong ) the hands never hit past shoulder width and all the energy is concentrated within that small space. Dedication and perservance is all that is required to become a true master like these students.
ronho2007 10 months ago
@scarecrow104 Sifu Terry and Si - Mo. I hope you and your family are well and that the school is prospering. My years of training in the Tong Long family in Ashmore have not left me. The art has become apart of who I am,(although ceased training) it will never leave my mind, body or soul. Scarecrow, you are privileged to be trained by such a master of not only martial arts, but a master in life and philosophy.
Kind Wishes;
Grant B.
tonglongfighter 1 year ago
@Colbie6
Good point.
DarkHorse176 1 year ago
UFC fighters should really add this art into their arsenal of skills!!!!
d3rfliw 1 year ago
@d3rfliw Trouble is that 6 or so lethal hits will be in b4 the ref could stop the fight or b4 the poor victim hits the floor.
banthapoodo 10 months ago 4
are there great variations to the mantis styles? i will be starting soon at a place in south australia but this style in general is the type of mantis that really interests me especially the technicality of it. it is my understanding that Northern mantis is different but is this the usual southern style? the place i am starting at soon is southern style.
HUMPHREY108 1 year ago
@Colbie6 The fellas here are only shown performing Jongs to showcase their understanding and application of various techniques to their Sifu for grading. Jongs are not really used to fight as such, rather (among other things I'm sure) they are used to help the practioner to become familar with techniques and their applications, and their repetition helps to create automation in the bodies reaction to certain stimuli.
But I defy anybody to be still standing in the first seconds at full power.
rexthun 1 year ago 6
If you have ever had the opportunity to feel a hit from a high level Circular Tong Long fighter you will either get knocked out straight away or you will feel a shock that stops you from reacting for a split second and this gives them enough time to hit you / shock you over and over again. You will notice that at the start of every combo the person getting hit has come in with an attacking move and has been easily controlled and hit instantly. Don't forget in this video they are holding back.
aaronturnby 1 year ago 17
@aaronturnby do you guys do any contact sparring, or light sparring?
YoungCrs 1 year ago
@YoungCrs Yes & no, it all depends on the individual school and each school may have a different method on how they do it. At the school I teach at stage 1 is touch sparring to the body only. Then when the student shows good control they progress to touch sparring to the head & body and then again when they show enough control they can progress to anything goes sparring (light power) using fingerless gloves, groin protection, shin gaurds and headgear that has a caged face shield.
aaronturnby 1 year ago
Realise that 9 times out of ten the first hit will drop an opponent because there are no gloves involved. If still standing then we hit them multiple times just to be sure. If they can take that first hit than they will likley be seeing stars etc which will make them immobile to some extent. That is why fighting sports need referees so that they can quickly jump in & stop a fight because people can't defend themselves properly when they are stunned.
aaronturnby 1 year ago
To see the real beauty in this video carefully watch the first couple of moves of each combination. You will see defence, attack & control combined into one. One thing you might not realise due to the editing is that at some stages a master is surrounded by 4 or 5 other masters and they are attacked from all directions without prior knowledge of who is going to attack next and they have to defend, control and do rapid firestriking all at the same time on each person.
aaronturnby 1 year ago
Verry high level kung fu !
lamatoast1 1 year ago
Ive been waiting since like 2007 for new vdieos, thanks, it was worth the wait, will you be u/ling more videos thanks again.
DjRodimusPrimeXyZ 1 year ago
back in the day people would walk a thousand miles to learn this art, now it's in australia... it's a 8 min pushie ride from home??? as if i'm not going to make the most of it!! a true gift!
dano253 1 year ago
Awesome. Dedicated and focussed practitioners of an amazing art.
mdcosta21 1 year ago
I want to thank you for the privledege of watching this awesome display of time,talent and above all disire to master an art. Sifu Sue thank you Sir for allowing us to see this great art.
jimman33 1 year ago 3
I am proud to be sitting beside by sifu and proud of the new 4 th degree masters , all have very powerful ging and are skill fighters.
sunshinehuskies 1 year ago
Sifu Henry Sue is a truly gifted man, and has given wonderfully to his community, and martial arts generally. This video is a superb demonstration of the skills of his masters. Make no mistake, these guys are incredibly talented. This video should be obligatory viewing for anyone wanting to know the true pinnacle of the arts.
wochee 1 year ago 21
u guys must be very lucky to have a good sifu like him
i heard he is a very talented and decent man and a teacher.
amazing vid, really bring out the style.
i would really want to see master henry in action
74gore 1 year ago 5
ok dont get me wrong, i respect the technique fully as i am also a mantis practitioner, but i cant stand training (especially for testing) where the opponent is standing still after the first strike. it just plain dont work like that. for lower ranked testing ok, because your JUST learning the skills. but for high level it should b more realistic. thats just my own personal thought, no offense at all.
other than that, good job and congratulations to everyone involved. thanks for the video
XshaolinkidX 1 year ago 4
@XshaolinkidX Once you get caught in the arms of the mantis.. youre not going anywhere except down.
036265 1 year ago 4
@XshaolinkidX If it was more realistic this video would not have been able to be posted. They are holding back so much power.
lemnova 1 year ago
Excellent Gung Fu, congratulations to everyone involved.
gragrn 1 year ago