What right does Palestine have to exist?

[space13awesomer]

kiss ommak bi aire. youre mother vag on yo dick you prick!

[freethequeen]

well any map of the world pre 1948 will show the land of Palestine, inhabited mainly by arabs.

what right have european, russian and american jews to that land ?

[GWC1975]

@freethequeen

Maps don't show which ethnic group inhabits any place. "Palestine" is a name given to the region by the Romans. Jews have been there for almost 4,000 years; Arabs only started wandering away from the Arabian Peninsula less than 1,500 years ago, and they didn't go straight to Israel. There was never an Arab country called Palestine.

[Lamovec]

According to a Declaration by United Nations and UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights ''All peoples have the right of self-determination''. United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that ''everyone has the right to a nationality''.

[jaf8max]

israel is not the only kingdom for the jews they had one in yemen why didnt they asked for it???

[jaf8max]

the UN decision came to make 2 countrys at one that was the decision:

56% for the jews who own 6% and make 30% and they get haifa

43% for the palestinians who own 94%and make 60% of the population and they dont get jerusalem its an international area

jew gets the bigger land and the better land

[jaf8max]

israel first day:those are the cities that was destroyed according to the israeli historians: Expulsion by Jewish forces 122 Military assault by Jewish troops 270 Fear of Jewish attack or being 38 caught in the fighting Influence of fall of neighboring towns 49 Psychological warfare 12 Abandonment by The Arabs 6 Unknown 54 Total 531 That is, 90% were attacked by Jewish forces... that made 750 000 palestinian refuges

[jaf8max]

-- David Ben Gurion First Prime Minister of Israel (from Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969)

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either........ There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

[jaf8max]

no they jews dont have evidence that they are the same people although that clam dosent make since jews of khaza are converts if its about religion you have the right them with all my respect i have to say you sick because i dont believe in your god and you believe that that god wants us to suffer for some reason if that is from god all of those innocents wont die

[jaf8max]

-- David Ben Gurion First Prime Minister of Israel (1938 Speech).

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come? here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

[jaf8max]

now just 100 years ago 60% of the countrys today have never existed in the history the palestinians have been living in this land its their land jews came from europe and they kicked them out the palestininas have the right to exist because this is their land this question is not in its place they dont have a country now israel is in their place the why dont the palestinians have the right to have a country like all the other dont forget the 2 state solution

[jaf8max]

i never heard a good answer about what right dose israel have to exist nether every time i ask they say: because of the holocaust or they lived here a million year ago

palestinians are not the nazis

Prof. Erich Fromm :

"The claim of the jews to the land of Israel cannot be a realistic claim .If all nations would suddenly? claim territory in which their forefathers had lived 2000 years ago this world would be a mad house."

[SlapHappyWon]

The American Indians Did Not Have Official Borders Either Since There Was No Official Threat Until The Americans Decided To Butcher Them All And Steal The Land.

Colonialism Is Evil, Israel Is Evil

[moosem2s]

Palestine has the right to exist. Because regardless of wether it was official or not, there were people living in civilized cities, not nomadic people, in palestine. You say in 1960 the people of Palestine were unheard of. Find the movie, from 1950, "Sand of Sorrows", describing the Palestinian refugee problem. Clearly describing the land as Palestine. Also many states were not recognized a long time ago, such as Salvador, Guatemala, Congo, Algeria, etc. Palestine did exist, officialy or not.

[man95000]

Palestine is the name of the region you fucking idiot, and if you want to go by that Jordan is also occupying Palestine. Why don't the Palestinians attack them as well? ill tell you why, because they are fake Palestinians that don't even have three generations of roots on the land.

[FMProductionz]

Three generations? During the crusades it was known as Palestine, that is far more than three generations. It doesn't matter if you think it is a region, a country, a state, a county whatever PEOPLE LIVED THERE AND WHERE EVICTED. Regardless of this, most Israelis go back one generation, so what right does Israel have to exist?

[man95000]

Part 1

Just because some people stole the name of the Palestinian Jews doesn't mean they are native to the land. Most of the people that call themselves Palestinians today don't even have three generations of roots connected to the land. It was never a country or a state, its a fucking region and always was.

[man95000]

Part 2

No one was evicted, the Muslim Arabs that were living there at the time left of their own free will when the Arab armies asked them to leave so they could "throw Israel and the Jews into the sea", they left for the promise of Jewish land ones they returned and most of the people that left didnt even see a single Israeli solder.

[man95000]

Part 3

It didnt turn out that way and Arab armies lost. Most Jewish Israelis have thousands of years of roots connected to the land, Jews have a certain genetic marker that all real Jews share and that marker can be traced back to Palestine. Even today Arab Muslims are occupying stolen land, not the other way around.

[FMProductionz]

No most Jewish Israelis are related to converts and not semites. But even so, if everybody today could claim the land of there ancient ancestors, then the world would be messed up. You also forget that there were people before there,

You say they wanted to throw the Jews into the sea? Guess what the Jewish settlers actually did throw Palestinians into the sea in Jaffa

Lets assume that the Palestinians did leave voluntarily. is that a good reason to seize there property and not let them return?

[man95000]

You want to make a bet on that? If you check most European Jews they will have the Jewish genetic marker that Semitic Jews have. Also if you cant defend your land you don't deserve to keep it. You don't have to assume anything, its fact that they left of their own free will. Also most of the people that call themselves Palestinians today arent even real Palestinians, they stole that title from the Palestinian Jews.

[FMProductionz]

"if you cant defend your land you don't deserve to keep it"

Thank you for ending on that note.

[man95000]

You're welcome, the Muslims couldn't defend their stolen lands.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 israelis kicked out 700 000 palestinians and destroyed over 400 cities what did you expect us to do jordanians let the palestinians living in their land like how any nation let other races and religion to live inside it israel dont acknowledge the existing of the palestinians

[man95000]

@jaf8max

No the "palestinians" who are mostly jordanian immigrants left of their own free will with promises of Jewish land ones the Arab armies killed all the Jews living in Palestine. The ones that stayed are now citizens of israel. Where the hell did you get that bullshit 400 city number? Palestinians are recent inventions. They are nothing but Jordanians under a new name in attempt to steal Israeli land.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 no they are not jordanians we call them palestinians for 1000s of years but its easy for you to deny that now you dont want to acknowledge them existing

arabs allowed 1million jew to go to israel after when they betray their own country when that happened in germany hitler killed 6000000 jew

israel destroyed over 400 city according to the arabs but the israeli files says its 500

we cant know how much are they exactly because many of them were WIPED OF THE HISTORY

/watch?v=JIudn8-jJJw

[man95000]

@jaf8max

The palestinians weren't even around for a hundred years let alone a thousand. The philistines are not the palestinians. How did the Jews betray Germany? It's the other way around moron. Where does anything say that isreal destroyed 400 cities? which cities did it destroy? you're full of shit.

[jaf8max]

@man95000

you know the word palestine dosent exist in arabic we call them philistine

palestine in the term philistine in english

im sorry i sent you the wrong video

/watch?v=zg0ql9tA1-I&feature=r­elated

jews were rich in germany till they decided to declare war on germany because they want to have a country fot them selves in the ww1 thats why the holocaust happened

i sent you a message to show you the map and all the informations you asked about the palestinin cities

[man95000]

@jaf8max

The palestinians aren't the philistines. The philistines were Greek not Arabs. Palestinian isn't an Arab word because it is an invented word just like the palestinians. Many jews were rich in Germany until Hitler stole their wealth because he was jealous of them, the Jews themselves never betrayed Germany.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 there is no palestinians in arabic we never called them that and before the islamic empire the arabs (palestine lebanon surya jordan iraq) asked prophet mohamed to free them because the byzents empire hated them all of those werent arabs they turned arabs with the time after the death of the prophet the khalifis have freed them they had a system like the states in the US today they putted a ruler on the land of philistine from the river to the sea

[jaf8max]

@man95000 but they were never greeks also north africa the greeks ruled them its an empire

about the jews in germany i will have to explain a long story

just watch this video there is nothing to deny its all jewish history

/watch?v=ijEXO9QTKS4

[man95000]

@jaf8max

No lmfao. The philistines were Greeks, take a history class. The people calling themselves palestinians are Jordanians, Syrians, and Egyptian refugees. Before 1960 the only people calling themselves palestinians were the Jews living in the region and they weren't referring to it as an ethnicity like the frauds in Gaza are now. I kind send you written statements by Arab army generals and leaders of Jordan admitting that the palestinians as people don't exist.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 if you mean zuhair muhsen he wasnt even the leader of jordan and he also said jordanians dosent exist also suryans dosent exist also israelis dosent exist he means all of this land is one arabian country dummy good job looking like an idiot

and you still dont understand that greek empire is not 100% greek north africans was never greek i dont see any greeks impression in palestine i only see arabs and jewish

[man95000]

@jaf8max

That's because the palestinians aren't Greeks and aren't in any way related to the philistines who were Greeks. yes, Jordan and Syria are also recent inventions. They're all Arabs with no cultural differences whatsoever. You're an idiot propagandist.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 and every single historians knows that not all the mongol empire were mongols they occupied persians and iraq were those people mongolians in that time

GREEKS NEVER LIVED IN PALESTINE THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN THIS LAND FOR 1000S OF YEARS IF THE GREEKS LIVED HERE YOU WOULD SEE THEIR IMPRESSION

all the antiquities in the land proves that it was cannans then jewish then arabs (which is just like the cannans antiquities)

i study history in college by the way

[man95000]

@jaf8max

The video you sent me wasn't "Jewish history" it's an antisemitic video trying to say Jews are using the word as a smoke screen. You're no better then the Nazis and your propaganda won't work on someone who's educated in history such as myself.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 its funny that you said:"educated in history such as myself" there is no historian in the wourld denies a full step in the history i dont know if you know what dose that mean

khazar was a strong kingdom with a weak religions they wanted to chose one religion between judasim christianity and islam they chose judasim and between a day and a night the whole kingdom converted to judasim before that many many arabs have converted to judasim there is even africans jews

yeah thats a race

[man95000]

@jaf8max

The Khazar jew argument was already debunked with dna testing which found that Israeli jews that migrated back to isreal had their dna related to the region. the khazars weren't just Jewish either they were also Muslims and Christians and the only khazars that were Jewish were the high positioned ones. they were mostly Muslim and christian. Go take a history class instead of watching neo-nazi propaganda videos.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 so few were muslim and christians in fact why there is many jews in russia today

the DNA test was never acknowledge by any other scientists they dont even have a prove of that they just said it on camera its a joke

[man95000]

@jaf8max

Stop lying about historic facts. They were MOSTLY Muslims and Christians. The only khazards that were Jewish were their nobles. The DNA tests have been acknowledged by the scientific community and were done in a scientific study, stop lying out your ass. The only joke here is you and how much lies you can fit into a single post.

[man95000]

@jaf8max

I'm done arguing with you. You don't know what you're talking about and all you do is regurgitate neo-nazi/arab propaganda that has no basis in reality.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 the deferent is i talk with resources and you call every thing you dont like propaganda while you are not useing any source

ok the nice talking with you

[man95000]

@jaf8max

I can send you over a thousand sources but you would disregard them all just like the nazi propagandists before you. You on the other hand haven't provided me with a single source.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 which source you sent me??

my source is a book that defends the israeli military its Israel Military strategist Martin Van Creveld and you still deny it just search about the book

now i dont debate with kids i would kill my self if i had to post another comment for you so good bay

[man95000]

@jaf8max

Taking comments out of context is not a source.

[jaf8max]

@man95000 for the 100s time i say to you my source again:Israel Military strategist Martin Van Creveld

you can send me but you never sent anything

[brabon1]

its ok...ill be racist and insulting to everyone

there is no such thing as a palestinian

there is no such thing as palestine

it is a myth

time for all the arabs to go home to jordan

either that...or they can sit at home and the idf can bomb them to paradise

amen

[starman334]

what you mean to say is can the god of baby killers be real

[esabrieva]

You all forget there is an authority above all that has already spoken on the issue. It is the only living GOD and HE gave this land to his people - the jews/ISRAEL. I guess it all comes to the question who's God is real?

[Macaug]

The 3% jews living in palestine were living in peace before the creation of the zionist state of Israel. The wars between jews & arabs are only 60years old & not thousands of years as the media tries to tell us. The ashkanazis jews from europe have no decendents from the Holy land. They are from europe, that's why Israel should not exist because they are colonising it and killing the local people to remand there.

[dkayea1]

To 'Macaug': Living in peace? Not always, unfortunately there was the Hebron massacre of 1929. 'Ashkenaz' is the ancient Hebrew word for Germany. This refers to the place where those Jews live, just like "Sepharad" is the ancient Hebrew word for Spain, which describes Jews who lived in that region.

[dkayea1]

Macaug wrote:"The ashkenazim Jews have no descendants (you mean ancestors) from the Holy Land." Really? Actually, that's not true. There is a tradition that all Cohanim are descendants of Aharon, the first Cohen, of the tribe of Levi. Samples have been taken from Cohanim on every continent; Ashkenazim & Sephardim. A common genetic marker was discovered that can only be passed from father to son, suggesting a common male ancestor. This is known as the 'Cohen Gene'

[dkayea1]

To 'Macaug': The "Cohen" (or "Kohen") gene has a specific haplotype, and this genetic marker has been verified in Cohanim from Europe, the Americas, North Africa, and, of course Israel. If the Cohanim were not descended from Aharon HaKohen, how do you suppose that they managed to incorporate that common patrilineal genetic marker, in spite of sometimes huge geographical distances, if the Ashkenazim had no ancestors in Israel? Quite mystifying, isn't it?

[dkayea1]

To 'Macaug': oh yes, how could I omit the 'Grand' mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al Husseini. Fervent admirer of Hitler, creator of a Bosnian Muslim SS division for the Nazi war machine. His letter urging the Hungarian Foreign Minister not to allow the Jews in Hungary to 'escape' (his word) was successful. This was BEFORE the modern State of Israel existed. Obviously not all Muslims or Arabs are not of the same. There are many that are righteous & peaceful. Not the who Mufti shook Satan's hand.

[man95000]

3%? you pulled that number out of your ass, and they were hardly living in peace. the Muslims were using Jewish grave markers to make urinals along with other twisted things.

[Macaug]

it's not because the U.N or whatever global government didn't recognize Palestine as a Nation that there was nobody living there. There was a society and arab palestinians have been there for over a thousand year. The arabs from Arabia came to the local people in palestine with Islam and intermarried & mixed and that's what we call palestinians. Before the creation of the state Israel the population of palestine was 97% muslims & christians with 3% jews

[Islamat]

Israel does have a right to exist just not in that location at the present time.

[IslamicFaith]

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooool

you said that Palestine didnt exist before the '60s and was unheard of?!!! LMAOOOOOOO! That because you people are sooo damn ignorant of the existance of other countries...c'mon now....we all know that Americans and the British are clueless when it comes to Geography! so of course you had no clue it existed!

[israelandpalestine]

Before the 1960s Palestine was a wod used by the Romans to describe the predominantly Jewish Area of the Middle East, It was also used by the British to describe the Area of Israel and Transjordan. There is no and never has been a Palestinean State, Its not even an Arab word.

[esabrieva]

it is si sad so very little people are educated or informed about historical facts. you are one of them. good job

[jaf8max]

@israelandpalestine israel is an invasion like the crusaders any people would fight an invasion to free their land

before you ask this question you got to say why dose the israelis have the right of the land

i like that you would talk without exchange insulting i would like to talk to you on pm

[SmartGuy4today]

Wrong! Palestine was never used by Romans to describe Jews. That was Judea or rather Iudaea. Palestine comes from the Hebrew word P'lishtim, which is what the Jews were calling Romans. Romans merely rename the land after themselves. And they rename Jerusalem after their own Emperor, Colonia Aelia Capitolina. Meaning Capital of the Colony of Aelia, which comes from Hadrian's clan name, Aelius.

Palestine was a Roman Colony made up of Roman People and named after Rome by what Jews called them.

[gnrlusr8]

You just proved this video right. All you can do is insult when you have no answer. Your diversion tactics are transparent.

[hotgirljen99]

What part of that is an intelligent answer??? Pretty typical of someone with the name "IslamicFaith."

[SmartGuy4today]

No clue what existed? That Muhammad was a Jew who rode on a donkey, pray towards Jerusalem, was enemies with the Umayyads who kicked him out of Mecca. Suffered a severe head wound by Abu Bakr (which logically would have killed him), assumed to still be alive by closest followers (Similar to the account of El Cid in Al-Andalusia, who died prior to the final battle in his war with the Moors), the only person who knew (Fatima) was silenced by Uthman, and Ali assassinated.

Dude, you got screwed.

[SmartGuy4today]

Allah by the way, was the heathen god of the Kaaba, adorn with Idols by the Umayyads. The Umayyads were the sworn enemies of Muhammad, who threw him out of Mecca and acted upon attempting to kill him until he reached Medina, then he suffered a severe head wound (in which case it would had been impossible for him to live, given that Arabia was virtually nothing more Muhammad, thus no medicine, thus Muhammad couldn't have survived). Muhammad worship towards Jerusalem (the Jewish God), not Allah.