@tsimonin you need to place strong neodymium magnets in the alternator and see if you have a higher voltage output....they r very expensive but we to cut all that electric garbage there is such a thing as power inverters..........
guys don't hurt your selfs with this tests! see POOEY 1911 post!!!
for getting 48 volts @50Hz your best chance is to use a 12v or 24v alternator conected to a set of bateries at the same voltave and only then feed a step up transformer from this bateries trough a low frequency (50Hz) oscilator! the way you are trying you burn your feeded components because the 50Hz are guarateed and steel you need to sincro the fases!
Thanks... Yep that test didn't turn out to good... Yes... The batteries... That sounds like a good plan... I learned some good things from this test... Thanks for the input... You will see it on the Subaru when i get ready to put the HHO on it...
Alternators are capable of putting out well over 100v no problem and will do them no harm. putting anymore then 12v into the rotor though will just cause excess heating. An alternator will typically hit full power at 5000 to 6000rpm.
if you need 220 volt power source you need to connect your alternator to a set of bateries and to a 12volt/220volt power inverter also this p.inv. converts dc to ac @ 5o Hz!
im going to search for a e'book to send to you to help you in the generator department ;)
please forget the tranformer and the capacitor! tou will blow yourself up!
you need only 1000 or a litle more rpm's on the alt. for it to be at full power! if you want'it to produce more raise voltage on the rotor tranformer! 13 14 16 volts and so on! dont' try to atchive more than 16 volt from a 12 volt alternator for it will burn it's coils! you need the alternator rectifier bridge on the alternator for it to operate correctly and it will connet your 3 fases and convert them to dc current!
crazyfishfarmer I wish We were neighbors!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BLOW SOMETHING UP!!!!!!!!!!!new carb on My kia flooded on the vapor system, TALK ABOUT FUEL CRACKLE ,WOW , right after the last video I thought she was gonna BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to bring the speed up on the Alt. Use a 8" pulley on the motor it looks like a 2" pulley on the Alt. This would give you a 4 to 1 ratio in speed that means that if the motor is turning at 1350 rpm then the Alt. would be running at 5400 rpm. Alts. Love this speed..
You have to remember that Alts. are 3 phase so if you are going to use that transformer you need to tap those windings of the filament in the center and feed the common phase to it.
just a thought but what is the current output from the little power pack your using for the rotor? A 12v alternator will take 3 to 4 amps at 12v to drive its rotor to full power. the fact that you are only seeing 3v output spinning at 1500rpm or so does not seem right.
I'm not sure how fast that motor is turning that alternator... I don't think it is spinning 1500 rpms... It seems to be running slow... i need to get something that will tell me rpms...
Are you looking for an ac or dc output? Your best plan would be to use 3 microwave transformers in a 3 phase delta primary , star secondary configuration. You would need to rewind the primaries to run at the lower alternator voltage and remember that the transformers are designed to run at 50 or 60hz and your alternator will pump anything from 200hz to 400 hz into them. I built a plasma cutter with this sort of setup so if i can be any help just send a pm.
That's the big question... I am not sure... I will test it to the point of meltdown... I will use a old cell that i have and keep adding electrolyte to bring up the amps...
pull the cap and run it with out it and your output voltage will be higher. also the diode is to make sure the current only runs in one direction. if ac leave it on the ground. if dc it is pointless. you probably do not need the center connection. try running with out it hooked up.
@tsimonin you need to place strong neodymium magnets in the alternator and see if you have a higher voltage output....they r very expensive but we to cut all that electric garbage there is such a thing as power inverters..........
toyu17 3 months ago
Ohms law
twinboost 9 months ago
farmer you need to use this bit of math it mite help you ....Volts X amps = watts try it..fine your watts and go from there. yours ben..
fuelforben 1 year ago
@fuelforben lol you need to use a bit of spell check
noobtonthe3rd 1 year ago
use a high output alternater but will have to change the pulley on the motor to spin the alternater
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911truthseekers 1 year ago
p.s. alternator are dc..
cricketol 2 years ago
Alternators give out ac, only after the current is passed through a rectifier , does it become dc, there's also a diode to stop voltage leak.
hamsterjam911 2 years ago
what are your amps at with the 11v vs the 2.x v ?
cricketol 2 years ago
for those asking about the amps!
if you increase volts you reduce amps
thats why power companies use 150000v power grides so that they have lo amps lo dissipation and cheaper cables because they are thinner this way!
for increasing alternator rpm's increase the motor pollie diameter!
gproto1 2 years ago
Batteries batteries batteries... HHO... :)
tsimonin 2 years ago
guys don't hurt your selfs with this tests! see POOEY 1911 post!!!
for getting 48 volts @50Hz your best chance is to use a 12v or 24v alternator conected to a set of bateries at the same voltave and only then feed a step up transformer from this bateries trough a low frequency (50Hz) oscilator! the way you are trying you burn your feeded components because the 50Hz are guarateed and steel you need to sincro the fases!
bye
gproto1 2 years ago
Thanks... Yep that test didn't turn out to good... Yes... The batteries... That sounds like a good plan... I learned some good things from this test... Thanks for the input... You will see it on the Subaru when i get ready to put the HHO on it...
tsimonin 2 years ago
small coil is the Heater coil for the magnatron. its around 5 volts...
the diodes make the ac into a dc and charges the cap.
microwave xfmrs are known to kill.
do be careful.
the magnetron has 2 really strong magnets.
listen to these fellahs about the alternator, hell you could even go with a semi-truck alternator for more power.
IGutYa 2 years ago
What is the RPM of the converted alternator to motor and can it be use to turn another alternator?
aggroh7 2 years ago
Alternators are capable of putting out well over 100v no problem and will do them no harm. putting anymore then 12v into the rotor though will just cause excess heating. An alternator will typically hit full power at 5000 to 6000rpm.
pooey1911 3 years ago
if you need 220 volt power source you need to connect your alternator to a set of bateries and to a 12volt/220volt power inverter also this p.inv. converts dc to ac @ 5o Hz!
im going to search for a e'book to send to you to help you in the generator department ;)
see you!
gproto1 3 years ago
please forget the tranformer and the capacitor! tou will blow yourself up!
you need only 1000 or a litle more rpm's on the alt. for it to be at full power! if you want'it to produce more raise voltage on the rotor tranformer! 13 14 16 volts and so on! dont' try to atchive more than 16 volt from a 12 volt alternator for it will burn it's coils! you need the alternator rectifier bridge on the alternator for it to operate correctly and it will connet your 3 fases and convert them to dc current!
gproto1 3 years ago
crazyfishfarmer I wish We were neighbors!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BLOW SOMETHING UP!!!!!!!!!!!new carb on My kia flooded on the vapor system, TALK ABOUT FUEL CRACKLE ,WOW , right after the last video I thought she was gonna BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
indianchief741 3 years ago
@indianchief741
LOL
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hhoWayToGo 3 years ago
you could use the 12v output from an old pc power supply but put a 12v tail light bulb on the 5v rail to give it a minimum load.
pooey1911 3 years ago
Pooey is right that rotor needs to see 2 or 3 amps to be energized right.
crazzieg 3 years ago
You need to bring the speed up on the Alt. Use a 8" pulley on the motor it looks like a 2" pulley on the Alt. This would give you a 4 to 1 ratio in speed that means that if the motor is turning at 1350 rpm then the Alt. would be running at 5400 rpm. Alts. Love this speed..
You have to remember that Alts. are 3 phase so if you are going to use that transformer you need to tap those windings of the filament in the center and feed the common phase to it.
crazzieg 3 years ago
just a thought but what is the current output from the little power pack your using for the rotor? A 12v alternator will take 3 to 4 amps at 12v to drive its rotor to full power. the fact that you are only seeing 3v output spinning at 1500rpm or so does not seem right.
pooey1911 3 years ago
I'm not sure how fast that motor is turning that alternator... I don't think it is spinning 1500 rpms... It seems to be running slow... i need to get something that will tell me rpms...
Thanks...
tsimonin 3 years ago
If all you need is 48v dc , the alternator will put that out by itself no problem. you wont need transformers.
pooey1911 3 years ago
I was able to get a standard alternator to go up to 48v DC but at high rpms
tsimonin 3 years ago
Are you looking for an ac or dc output? Your best plan would be to use 3 microwave transformers in a 3 phase delta primary , star secondary configuration. You would need to rewind the primaries to run at the lower alternator voltage and remember that the transformers are designed to run at 50 or 60hz and your alternator will pump anything from 200hz to 400 hz into them. I built a plasma cutter with this sort of setup so if i can be any help just send a pm.
pooey1911 3 years ago
DC... I need all the input i can get... Thanks...
tsimonin 3 years ago
I am thinking i want to setup a array of batteries to give me 48v DC and allot of amps...
tsimonin 3 years ago
interesting stuf just wonderin how many amp will that set up push
hemigoose 3 years ago
That's the big question... I am not sure... I will test it to the point of meltdown... I will use a old cell that i have and keep adding electrolyte to bring up the amps...
tsimonin 3 years ago
pull the cap and run it with out it and your output voltage will be higher. also the diode is to make sure the current only runs in one direction. if ac leave it on the ground. if dc it is pointless. you probably do not need the center connection. try running with out it hooked up.
advancedhydrogen 3 years ago
Will the the microwave diodes work for my bridge rectifier? Thanks...
tsimonin 3 years ago
the small winding is a heater coil winding.
go to the secondary all by itself.
the cap is there to tune it to resonance to the wall current frequency.
you could put all phases onto one transformer if it has enough windings.
go for toroids-less loss.
m3sca1 3 years ago
Sounds good... Do know of a good site that i can learn more about toroids? Thanks...
tsimonin 3 years ago
not really-i will have a hunt around and PM you
m3sca1 3 years ago