There is no discussion and no comparisons about/with LUTA-DO-PAU . It is Portuguese , and it is CHAMPION amongst all the worl Stick Fighting martial arts .You name it . Japonese , chinese , whatever ... The last championship between all these world stick fighting martial art techniches , happenend in France , in which , Portugueses Luta-do-Pau warriors won ALL combats against all the othe techniches .And That's That !
O Jogo do pau é único! Pode parecer “isto” ou “aquilo” e ate ter técnicas em comum com outras artes marciais mas isso é pura coincidência. O jogo do pau tem centenas, talvez milhares de anos e tudo o que se sabe é que terá nascido nas aldeias do interior de Portugal num tempo em que o mundo era grande demais para ser percorrido...
This is exactly a copy of silambam. The portuguese ruled tamil nadu they were the first to rule india.If you doubt it try to find the evidence of jogo do pau beforerthe year 1500 AD which was when vasco da gama set his foot on india.There is hardly an historic evidence regarding this art before 17th century at most.The advanced students practice by blocking in sitting, kneeling, coruching and lying down position so as to cover all angles that occur in a real situation.
@bostafffighter You are not very smart. Jogo do pau doesn.t have technicall origin in india, but in fencincing with 2 hands in Europe. We have very historicall registes thta can prove it much time before the data you refer
@Ronin2006x Come on! be honest with yourself. European fencing does not use this types of motion i.e circular wrist movement,for instance see Quarterstaff fencing which is an original English stick fight and purely English in origin.
Watch all silambam vidoes that are posted in youtube and you'll know what i am talking about.To be honest with you, I was just angered to see these people practising silambam and them as thier own martial arts.
@bostafffighter You are not very smart. Jogo do pau doesn.t have technicall origin in india, but in fencincing with 2 hands in Europe. We have very historicall registes thta can prove it much time before the data you refer
@bostafffighter You confuse Quarterstaff with two hand fencing. Historically is very easy for a erudit to saw the book wrote some centuries ago, also some centuries before the Portuguese arrive in india and saw the exact technics that are part of Jogo do Pau. I saw severall videos of sillambam, you can said that some techicncs are simillar, but thats all, because you dont have the mental abilitie to see where they are diferent in their mechanic essence.
@Ronin2006x Two hand fencing is done with long sword. do you think this is how they would have fought with swords. This is stick fighting not sword fighting a weighty long sword cannot be handled this way.Please refer the old two hand fencing manuals and please watch "indian stick fighting" in youtube the full video.
@bostafffighter The book is "A ARTE DE BEM CAVALGAR TODA A SELA" From "EL REI D. DUARTE" (1391-1438). In this book you can find what i am trying to explain you.
@temmy9 I watched many renaissance longsword, poleaxe, staff and I agree that there are lot of their elements in jogo do pau. But,a big but is no western art uses turning(the body) and hit and turning and jumping and hit these are unique to silambam in fact the art's key feature, it uses it more often than other eastern stick fights and it is also similarly found in jogo do pau.How is it possible?.Tell me any western weapon art that uses turning the body and striking.
@bostafffighter yes, spinning or turning moves are described in the fechtbuchs. You can see them described in Gründtliche Beschreibung des Fechten by Joachim Meyer, Flos Duelletorum by Fiore and others. But most pertinently, they are described in a Treatise on Montante, Memorial da Practtica do Montante. Montante is the Longsword art from which Jogo Do Pau draws much of its inspiration.
@bostafffighter How is it possible ? Portugal ,... Lusitânia and Ibéria are very ancestral territories where a lot of cultures in the East came from ... before the official indoeuropean migration from East to West (Hispânia) there was a HispaniardIndo migration form West(Hispânia) to East .It sis very funny to know thar there are cultures in ÍNdia that have knowledge of their ancestral forfathers coming from Hispânia (Lusitânia and Ibéria )
@Anglosaxoesdatreta Mais uma vez eu! Agora que eu andava aqui a ver vídeos do jogo-do-pau dei outra vez consigo e pasmou-me de novo mais um comentário seu! Refiro-me a "it is very funny to know that there are cultures in India that have knowledge of their ancestral forefathers coming from Hispânia (Lusitânia and Ibéria)" Quem sao esses tais indianos, que "ainda sabem", que descendem de gentes vindas da península? Agradeco de antemao
@temmy9 But you do have a point they may have evolved parallel as silambam also evolved among the rural nomadic shepherds and narikuravars. It is not possible that jogo do pau contributed to silambam as Silambam is found in diverse areas of tamil nadu and the neighbouring states and the technique of silambam is far too numberous and well organized to say it as a derivative.
@Ronin2006x That´s because , before , much before the oficial indo-european migrations from east to West , there was a (West to East ) Hispania-India migration .
@bostafffighter You confuse Quarterstaff with two hand fencing. Historically is very easy for a erudit to saw the book wrote some centuries ago, also some centuries before the Portuguese arrive in india and saw the exact technics that are part of Jogo do Pau. I saw severall videos of sillambam, you can said that some techicncs are simillar, but thats all, because you dont have the mental abilitie to see where they are diferent in their mechanic essence.
There is no discussion and no comparisons about/with LUTA-DO-PAU . It is Portuguese , and it is CHAMPION amongst all the worl Stick Fighting martial arts .You name it . Japonese , chinese , whatever ... The last championship between all these world stick fighting martial art techniches , happenend in France , in which , Portugueses Luta-do-Pau warriors won ALL combats against all the othe techniches .And That's That !
Anglosaxoesdatreta 6 months ago
O Jogo do pau é único! Pode parecer “isto” ou “aquilo” e ate ter técnicas em comum com outras artes marciais mas isso é pura coincidência. O jogo do pau tem centenas, talvez milhares de anos e tudo o que se sabe é que terá nascido nas aldeias do interior de Portugal num tempo em que o mundo era grande demais para ser percorrido...
joaozoelae 8 months ago
This is exactly a copy of silambam. The portuguese ruled tamil nadu they were the first to rule india.If you doubt it try to find the evidence of jogo do pau beforerthe year 1500 AD which was when vasco da gama set his foot on india.There is hardly an historic evidence regarding this art before 17th century at most.The advanced students practice by blocking in sitting, kneeling, coruching and lying down position so as to cover all angles that occur in a real situation.
bostafffighter 11 months ago
@bostafffighter You are not very smart. Jogo do pau doesn.t have technicall origin in india, but in fencincing with 2 hands in Europe. We have very historicall registes thta can prove it much time before the data you refer
Ronin2006x 11 months ago
@Ronin2006x Come on! be honest with yourself. European fencing does not use this types of motion i.e circular wrist movement,for instance see Quarterstaff fencing which is an original English stick fight and purely English in origin.
Watch all silambam vidoes that are posted in youtube and you'll know what i am talking about.To be honest with you, I was just angered to see these people practising silambam and them as thier own martial arts.
bostafffighter 11 months ago
@bostafffighter You are not very smart. Jogo do pau doesn.t have technicall origin in india, but in fencincing with 2 hands in Europe. We have very historicall registes thta can prove it much time before the data you refer
Ronin2006x 11 months ago
@bostafffighter You confuse Quarterstaff with two hand fencing. Historically is very easy for a erudit to saw the book wrote some centuries ago, also some centuries before the Portuguese arrive in india and saw the exact technics that are part of Jogo do Pau. I saw severall videos of sillambam, you can said that some techicncs are simillar, but thats all, because you dont have the mental abilitie to see where they are diferent in their mechanic essence.
Ronin2006x 11 months ago
@Ronin2006x Two hand fencing is done with long sword. do you think this is how they would have fought with swords. This is stick fighting not sword fighting a weighty long sword cannot be handled this way.Please refer the old two hand fencing manuals and please watch "indian stick fighting" in youtube the full video.
bostafffighter 11 months ago
@bostafffighter The book is "A ARTE DE BEM CAVALGAR TODA A SELA" From "EL REI D. DUARTE" (1391-1438). In this book you can find what i am trying to explain you.
Ronin2006x 11 months ago
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Ronin2006x 11 months ago
@bostafffighter Yes, it is similar. JDP is descended from Rural stick fighting arts that themselves evolved out of longsword techniques
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This is medieval german peasant staff, descended from german longsword waaay before any european set foot in India
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If it looks similar to silambam its because there are only so many ways to use a stick
temmy9 10 months ago
@temmy9 I watched many renaissance longsword, poleaxe, staff and I agree that there are lot of their elements in jogo do pau. But,a big but is no western art uses turning(the body) and hit and turning and jumping and hit these are unique to silambam in fact the art's key feature, it uses it more often than other eastern stick fights and it is also similarly found in jogo do pau.How is it possible?.Tell me any western weapon art that uses turning the body and striking.
bostafffighter 10 months ago
@bostafffighter yes, spinning or turning moves are described in the fechtbuchs. You can see them described in Gründtliche Beschreibung des Fechten by Joachim Meyer, Flos Duelletorum by Fiore and others. But most pertinently, they are described in a Treatise on Montante, Memorial da Practtica do Montante. Montante is the Longsword art from which Jogo Do Pau draws much of its inspiration.
temmy9 10 months ago
@bostafffighter How is it possible ? Portugal ,... Lusitânia and Ibéria are very ancestral territories where a lot of cultures in the East came from ... before the official indoeuropean migration from East to West (Hispânia) there was a HispaniardIndo migration form West(Hispânia) to East .It sis very funny to know thar there are cultures in ÍNdia that have knowledge of their ancestral forfathers coming from Hispânia (Lusitânia and Ibéria )
Anglosaxoesdatreta 6 months ago
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@Anglosaxoesdatreta Mais uma vez eu! Agora que eu andava aqui a ver vídeos do jogo-do-pau dei outra vez consigo e pasmou-me de novo mais um comentário seu! Refiro-me a "it is very funny to know that there are cultures in India that have knowledge of their ancestral forefathers coming from Hispânia (Lusitânia and Ibéria)" Quem sao esses tais indianos, que "ainda sabem", que descendem de gentes vindas da península? Agradeco de antemao
Rotebuehl1 4 months ago
@temmy9 But you do have a point they may have evolved parallel as silambam also evolved among the rural nomadic shepherds and narikuravars. It is not possible that jogo do pau contributed to silambam as Silambam is found in diverse areas of tamil nadu and the neighbouring states and the technique of silambam is far too numberous and well organized to say it as a derivative.
bostafffighter 10 months ago
@Ronin2006x That´s because , before , much before the oficial indo-european migrations from east to West , there was a (West to East ) Hispania-India migration .
Anglosaxoesdatreta 4 months ago
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@bostafffighter You confuse Quarterstaff with two hand fencing. Historically is very easy for a erudit to saw the book wrote some centuries ago, also some centuries before the Portuguese arrive in india and saw the exact technics that are part of Jogo do Pau. I saw severall videos of sillambam, you can said that some techicncs are simillar, but thats all, because you dont have the mental abilitie to see where they are diferent in their mechanic essence.
Ronin2006x 11 months ago
how is jogo do pao pronounced?
TheGoogler77 11 months ago
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Rotebuehl1 4 months ago
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@TheGoogler77 Pronunciation is somewhat like "joa-goo doo pow"! "joa" like in "Joan" and "pow" like in "powwow"! Lol
Rotebuehl1 4 months ago
muito bom!
silviazina 1 year ago
a 1ª x que vi isto foi na nave de alvalade num campeonato de kickboxing... o pessoal do jogo do pau foi lá animar o intervalo
duartecosta 5 years ago