@vuetube You're forgetting the 1500hp 1.5L 4cyl turbocharged BMW Brabhams in early eighties Formula One. They couldn't even use full throttle with these engines until over 200mph because the wheels would just spin and break loose.
Just an fyi too... Champ Cars were never hitting 18k rpm.
@veedub87 Just fyi, they used full throttle way before 200mph. Even with those quali engines, hitting 200mph was not something that happened on every track.
@Lolzilol123 I'm not suggesting this is not debatable. I will refer you to the BMW: Legends of Motorsport video that chronicles the engine development, however - '...and the engine was so powerful, it could spin the wheels right up to fourth gear so that we could only use full throttle above about 200, in fifth and sixth'. I didn't account for the fact that perhaps he meant 200km, but that's only 120mph, and they're not going to be in 5th or 6th gear(or even 4th) at such a low speed.
@veedub87 I don't know the video you're referring to, but just about everything regarding the turbo engines has been exaggerated. Most numbers I've seen coming from technical f1 sites etc. are closer to 1200-1300 horsepower, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that the "spins the wheels at a million mph" stuff is just as exaggerated. I think "spinning the wheels in 4th gear" is true, but not if the wheel is completely straight. Accelerating out of a corner it's true.
@veedub87 I also think that a maximum of 200 kph for 4th gear seems reasonable. From watching the onboards it seems the turbo cars had very short gears for the first gears, then pretty long 5th and 6th gears.
CART was best single seater racing, and Montoya maybe best to drive it, certainly in that era. Remember watching this at the time thinking "how the hell is he not crashed?"
Astounding how one car, doing one qualifying lap on what was NOT a good track is way more entertaining than anything we have seen in the current "indycar" in years ...
Good lap !!!
stica747 1 month ago
oh! guauuuuuu
jonat1045 1 month ago
he was the best cart driver period he was a beast in 99 and 2000.
kolense 2 months ago
what a violent lap
1255r3 2 months ago
One of the best laps ever... Montoya is such a talented driver. Thanks for the upload.
TifosiAlonso 4 months ago
those CART cars were so bad ass...
LOOP2012 1 year ago
I still remember that day. Simplemente MAGISTRAL!!!!
andrescarvajalh 1 year ago
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i dunno about u but that look faster than f1.
Apoic123 1 year ago
NOTHING will EVER match the near-1,000 horsepower THUNDER and 18,000rpm scream of a 90's Turbocharged Champ Car!
vuetube 1 year ago 7
@vuetube nah id say f1 v10's were better.
aieljose 1 year ago
@vuetube You're forgetting the 1500hp 1.5L 4cyl turbocharged BMW Brabhams in early eighties Formula One. They couldn't even use full throttle with these engines until over 200mph because the wheels would just spin and break loose.
Just an fyi too... Champ Cars were never hitting 18k rpm.
veedub87 1 year ago
@veedub87 Just fyi, they used full throttle way before 200mph. Even with those quali engines, hitting 200mph was not something that happened on every track.
Lolzilol123 3 months ago
@Lolzilol123 I'm not suggesting this is not debatable. I will refer you to the BMW: Legends of Motorsport video that chronicles the engine development, however - '...and the engine was so powerful, it could spin the wheels right up to fourth gear so that we could only use full throttle above about 200, in fifth and sixth'. I didn't account for the fact that perhaps he meant 200km, but that's only 120mph, and they're not going to be in 5th or 6th gear(or even 4th) at such a low speed.
veedub87 3 months ago
@veedub87 I don't know the video you're referring to, but just about everything regarding the turbo engines has been exaggerated. Most numbers I've seen coming from technical f1 sites etc. are closer to 1200-1300 horsepower, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that the "spins the wheels at a million mph" stuff is just as exaggerated. I think "spinning the wheels in 4th gear" is true, but not if the wheel is completely straight. Accelerating out of a corner it's true.
Lolzilol123 3 months ago
@veedub87 I also think that a maximum of 200 kph for 4th gear seems reasonable. From watching the onboards it seems the turbo cars had very short gears for the first gears, then pretty long 5th and 6th gears.
Lolzilol123 3 months ago
@vuetube They didn't get anywhere NEAR 18,000 rpm. But you're right, no Champ Car or Indycar will ever be as good as the 90's CART.
Lolzilol123 1 year ago 4
CART was best single seater racing, and Montoya maybe best to drive it, certainly in that era. Remember watching this at the time thinking "how the hell is he not crashed?"
A shame Formula 1 does not reward such lunacy.
OttoVanKopf 1 year ago
good freaking god those cars were monsters.
Astounding how one car, doing one qualifying lap on what was NOT a good track is way more entertaining than anything we have seen in the current "indycar" in years ...
dammmmmmmnnnn
AtomicMutant 1 year ago
Montoya was a beast in CART!
hristoitchov 1 year ago