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  • Waaay too expensive, not for a honda, for the actual package i.e. civic si + only suspension adjustment (all else are not substantial.)

  • Slow bro u are like tampon, every pussy has them

  • any time they mention a shift knob in the features, its a pass.. plus its a ricer. fail.

  • nop, the xrs with the 2zz will beat the ass of that shitty honda

  • Just Beautiful...

  • your paying for the mugen name

    ya 370z is $30,700 but a nismo 370z is $41,000

    2011 civic si = $22,000.

    not to mention insurance/repair cost on a 370z will be more.

    it depends on the buyer but honda for me

  • They will never ship the civic type r to north America because people would consider overpriced, give us the mugen rr

  • These should be priced more around $20,000. No joke.

  • How does this guy get this job?

  • The ultimate ricer hahahaha

  • I wish he would shut up for a few seconds so I could actually hear the car..

  • "completely transformed this vehicle" Okay suspension is more track oriented but other than that, its still the same car. I'd rather buy a Civic si and buy my own front rear and side spoilers and suspension.

  • @betterdropdatdonk the suspension is a little better but mostly its all in the tires. and yes, the only benefit of this mugen is that you can still run it in g-stock class for scca autocross

  • The newest SI are upgraded garbages ie 2012

  • this is nice i would trade my coupe with it but i much rather get the mugenRR. now thats the best fwd car in my opinion.

  • when you buy this car, just remember, you spent $30,000 for a civic

  • Its funny because nearly everyone who bashes on cars (imports and domestic alike) have not even had a personal experience with the other car type.

  • mugen didnt really do shit i could have done this shit myself

  • not saying the Si isnt good, but how would u call a FD2 if this is the best??

  • @licarcar i totally agree

  • FD2 Type-R is the best out there and this is just a wannabe Type-R if I'm honest.

  • for that price a sti is second option

  • it is a nice car. but to a certain comment about American cars will never beat this around a track cause they suck. umm for the record the 2008 ss did beat actually murdered it . on almost every track they ran against each other... so that certain comment may wana check there facts.. has it won sure it has. but rarely.... not trashin the car at all like i said its a decent car. but at least check your facts before u crap talk the srt 4's and the cobalt ss... cause both continue to beat it...

  • @mentalm12 dumb argument, let supercharge or boost the Honda and then well see the outcomes. both srt 4 or ss are supercharged or turbo.. Honda 2.0 engine :)

  • They always get this guy to do Honda reviews, seriously you think we don't catch onto subtle insinuations like that?

  • @KeepingModern. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm whatever do you mean?

    ;-P

  • @KeepingModern Honda guys are definitely niche buyers; the true Honda enthusiast (not just some ricer) is hard to find. Clearly he has that rare appreciation for Honda's conservative performance. I don't think it's a race thing like you've implied.

  • @BlueAvenue22 I can sniff out racist innuendos like how white nationalists succeed in blending in with non-racist regulars.

  • @BlueAvenue22 I'm one of them. Problem: I'm a student and will be student for the next 10 years or so.

    another problem: I like JDM Honda and I would care less for americanized mugen when there is FD2 Mugen RR or even the FD2 type R...screw the whole deal with Acura brand and USDM. everything japan gets US/CAD should get the same...market segmentation doesn't make sense here...fuck Honda CEO!

  • vtec= virtually torqueless economical car.

  • It's a Honda /:

  • 1993 Cadillac STS.

  • impressive but for 29,500 dollars, i'd take a 370z thanks.

  • @NissanTy cheap 370z for 30,000

  • @breakdancing123 yeah but still you get a 330hp v6 an rwd. like i said i have nothing against this car, thumbs up for honda producing a factory tuned car but its just too much money

  • @NissanTy 08 mugens can bought in the lower 20s now with really low miles. Z cars depreciate very fast as well. The mugen is a more exclusive car so resale is going to be higher. But theres nothing like RWD :)

  • Do they have these in Australia :(

  • @Viicta you have ford ts 50! I would love to get one, but its only in aus

  • @Viicta Buy a DC5 or Civic Type R, cheaper and faster.

  • best FWD? well, TOP GEAR elected the the RENAULT CLIO CUP 200... (just saying, no offense), sadly not imported to the states...

  • please god why wont honda just put the s2000 engine as a option for the si.

    2.2l 250hp would make this car perfect :)

    

  • @sausagenmuff because the f22 motor is designed for rwd.

  • @sausagenmuff they kind of did with the mugen rr. look it up but you can only get it in japan

  • @BlueAvenue22

    I though the RR still had a square engine and not a short stroked one like in the s2000, but I could be wrong.

  • @OneGodOnechance Eh, i still think the only Good hondas ever made were the NSX and the S2000...

    and i mean only.......

    and those obviously arn't being made/ are limited edition....

  • @OneGodOnechance haha, no i think you-mad.....

    You're the person that thinks these things look and sound good.....

    eh....

    thats fail right there..

  • jaja niqqas still replying bout my comment that i posted 1month ago. seriously just hope off . Vtec FTW! gtfo with ur pice of sht srts and v8s.

  • ahh i like the civic mugen but i have to say, its too expensive. Can anyone tell me if i could just order the mugen parts and install it on a regular civic si? with that kind of money, i could be spending it on other better cars.

  • @ramentasty8 yes. you can if you really want to. Just find a Mugen VIN (go on 8th civic and PM someone who has a Mugen) and you can order whatever you want. IMO Mugen parts are pretty over priced. And if you have your car just look like a mugen but not have all the suspension upgrades thats pretty rice IMO.

  • OMG SPHERICAL SHIFTING NOB? 200hp right there nice work as usual Honda.

  • I drive an 08 si... and i love it... but this car isn't worth $30k. better off spending that cash on aftermarket mods, hondata and etc...

  • its just soooooo damn UGLY!

    WHY would honda discontinue the beautiful RSX over this ugly piece of shit?

    wish they'd bring back the RSX!!!

  • exactly

  • This civics nice but the performance is still not enough to justify the price tag to me. I could get a base 370Z for the cost of this thing. :P

    I would understand if it was the fastest in it's class but it's not.

  • @randomdude5640 exactly what i'm thinking about. I could be getting a 350z or 370z. but do u know if i can install mugen parts to a civic si?

  • @ramentasty8 If they sell those body parts, the wing, and the exhaust separately I don't see why you couldn't make a mugen yourself and save some money. Screw the badges I've seen people here in America slap a "Type R" sticker on their civic and call it a day.

  • To drkid3000, the Civic Si is not faster than the Cobalt SS turbocharged around a track. Just check the Nurburgring lap times: 8:22 Cobalt SS. It is the fastest front wheel drive car with street tires. Megane R26 used racing DOTs. Before you state something, please put in the facts and data and please type correctly as it makes you appear uneducated.

  • isn't it pronounced moojin?

  • nsrt-4 would poop on this..

  • It still doesn't have the double-wishbone suspension we used to get in the EM1 Civic SiR which was what made the old car such a blast to drive, not to mention the old one was 120 kg lighter.

    However, even with MacPherson struts, this new car seems to handle rather well.

  • People just dont get it..for jesus christ stop crying out loud! Chevy cobalt or srt-4 will NEVER beat this around the track. Why? Bcause american cars suck at the corners!! So stfu u dumb pathetic noobs! Ps: my boy owns 1 of these, shts sexxxxy! :)

  • @drkid3000 "Sexy" are you fuking kidding me....... jesus, no wonder all you fags think fart pipe, fake cosmetics, and rediculos body kits look good.....

    ya see...

    Having a Honda Civic is like having a small dick..... you can try to mod some different supplements and pumps or what ever....

    but at the end of the day, you're still asian.....and people laugh at you.

    so do your self a favor bro, sell your piece of shit, Get a MB, BMW, Infinity, Or an Audi and stfu...

  • @drkid3000 This is not true. the new colbat SS was faster around the nurburgring than the 2011 STI. I cant speak on the SRT4, but the mustang 5.0 was .09 seconds slower than the M3 on a road course. the viper ACR and vette ZR1 both beat the ferrari enzo on the nurburgring as well.

    I like hondas too thats why I watched this video. but this fanboy garbage your spitting is why everyone calls us ricers. show respect where respect is due.

  • @BlueAvenue22 Interesting. I would like to see where the Si, type R, Mugen RR, and Mugen RR advanced do on that track. The only civic on there is an 01' EP3 with 8:47.

  • @mattgrimesisfat the mugen RR probably does well on the ring. 240bhp in a car that light makes it fly, it's quicker than the s2000 around most courses due to the same horsepower but being easier to drive because of the FWD. they really screwed us by not bringing that one over!

  • @BlueAvenue22 I'm pretty sure the RR doesn't pass US emissions, so you have to lose some hp to fix that, and then there's the fact that it'd be almost 40K. A lot of us will easily put 10-15K into our Si's, but I have a feeling alot of people who would pay that much for their civic's are more of "built than bought" kind of people.

  • @drkid3000 check out the new focus rs.......

  • @supermaniac5 ive seen it, idk bout performance wise but the looks are pathetic.

  • @drkid3000 well the front end isnt bad but the rear is pretty ugly, the tail lights are up to high and the angle of the hatch is too dramatic. performance wise fords compact cars are really very good the focus rs has a 300 or so horsepower volvo motor, and the new fiesta is said to handle like a lotus- jeremy clarkson from top gear.

  • @drkid3000 hahaha come meet my 89 foxy

  • @drkid3000 Actually the cobalt had a faster lap time nurburgring and it cost thousands less than this and if your into wings, body kits, loud mufflers and your willing to pay over 30 grand for that extra shit then your rice my friend.

  • @supersmashist LOL cobalts are fuking cows GTFO of here with that gay shit if you hate honda go watch some pussys racing gay ass 8 bangers

  • @supersmashist haha id love to see the cobalt beat this around the nubergring. and also, jaja u call this rice? this is pure true jdm! MUGEN!

  • @drkid3000 I just test drove one....boy. :D

  • @drkid3000 Yeah! All American cars suck! Every single one! Especially that Cadillac CTS-V thing...

  • @SomaComa89 Uh...no it doesn't. It has 556 HP and 551 torque, it's an amazing car that will run circles around anything. A majority of American 4 cylinder cars blow ass such as cobalt and neon. America specializes in diesel, V6 and V8's and America has had and has many great cars. Most American cars today are equal to or better than many imports in terms of quality and reliability. Look at Ford they turned themselves around and have lots of great cars now. Even GM is making gains now.

  • @USSRman45 hehe I <3 the CTS-V, I was just trying to be sarcastic :P (sorry if this posted twice)

  • @drkid3000 I totally agree, but i'd get a MS3 first, for 2reasons, 1st, the MS3 handles better than the Si according to reviews and it has more power plus a turbo! So, im sold :)

  • @gtstru The MS3 can back up it's looks. The Si can't. I'm sure some ricer will chime in now: WELL IF YOU TURBOS AND NOSSSS THE SI IT CAN BEAT A SATURN V ROCKET. :rolleyes:

  • @drkid3000 Corvette dummy. Will shit on this thing in the corners.

  • @YouSoundButtHurt jajaja alright why dont u compare corvette with nsx? now will corvette of urs beat nsx type r around track? hmmmm think again! :D

  • @drkid3000 A Z06 or ZR1 would have no problem with a NSX Type Rice.

  • @YouSoundButtHurt okay ferrari will shit on corvette!!!

  • @breakdancing123 Which Ferrari? Which Corvette? Also, doesn't Corvette continue to dominate at the 24 hours of LeMans?

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  • @drkid3000 You're an idiot and a fanboy. There are plenty of high performance american cars.

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  • @drkid3000 So wrong

  • @drkid3000 but hold one, hold one ))) there is one, but we don't have it in US. But people saying they would bring it in soon. And this car is Ford Focus RS ( the one they sell in Europe).I personally have 2008 si, and if they would bring that rs to US, I would switch the car. si and mugen is about the same cars: same power, little bit different tips, and mugen budges on the car.

  • @drkid3000 That's just an ignorant statement right there. The Mugen SI is not going to handle like a sports car. The SS and SRT4 are so much faster than the SI it just wouldn't stand a chance. Plus you automatically lose by using "noob" in your argument.

  • @Nebraskahusker23 the si is N/A engine while ss and srt4 are not

  • @fifafan1 I'm aware of that. But I was replying to a post that was comparing them stock to stock.

  • i like my 92 accord with jdm h22a swap that would be my best fwd car

  • The best Honda Ever made was my Lawnmower. :P

  • @suchet126 Yeah I guess because thats the only vehicle you ever drove, expect your bicycle..

  • Im 16 and im bout to get a car nd i was thinking of a honda civic Si coupe nd i was wondering if 1. Is it fast. 2. Is tourque steer a problem? If so how bad is it.

    thank you,

  • @0SpyderScope it is slow, torque steer isnt a problem because it has no torque lol, the tranny breaks very easily & the internals suck (unless you plan to leave it stock) other than that its alright

  • @0SpyderScope if you buy a civic si, youll baster than allotta cars out there. great starter car.

  • @0SpyderScope sentra spec v will do you better

  • @0SpyderScope You only need to worry about torque steer when you get a car with torque.

  • better than type r?

  • Love the color but not the price. For that price I'll jus get a Genesis or Evol

  • This car is for sale on Craigslist

    seattle. craigslist. org /see /cto /2277827278

    remove the spaces

  • the best FWD car ever, right off the top of my head has to be the original Mini

  • @cb7pwn What about the Integra Type R

  • @cb7pwn Focus RS slays all FWD cars.

  • so..if the new exhaust adds about 5hp..the Mugen Si has 202hp

  • I valeted this car last night and I tore it up. I'm not really into cars and I don't know the terminology and carspeak but this car is a beast. It's so fucking powerful. The sound of the motor gave me a huge boner/adrenaline rush. I WANT!!!

  • LOL Genesis coupe would rape this honda.

  • @juanlozanoism The 2.0T is slower than the SI. The 3.8 GT is slower than the Accord V6 MT/6. There you go Hyundai. 

  • Where can I buy the Civic Type R Wing Spoiler 10' and how much does it cost?

  • SRT-4 FTW!!! f*** this pos

  • @nickistired88 but does the SRT-4 even exist anymore? What's that? NO! so stfu!

  • @sexyboi142 SRT does'nt exist anymore? wow thats really weird because im pretty fucking sure i own one. and there's also the dodge caliber srt4. so your a dumbass and should shut up before you make yourself sound like anymore of a retard.

  • @kozskim004 Exist as in being produced anymore! And the Dodge caliber is a fuckin JOKE along with it's jeep counterparts. The dodge neon srt-4 was an O.K car for it's time. It ran head to head with the Chevy cavalier Z24/ LS sport, Ford focus SVT, and Honda Civic Si. The honda still proved to be a better car.

  • Geez 30K for this? I'd rather get an 05-06 Corolla XRS and tune the crap out of it and still have plenty of money left over.

  • @TomOEM2 honda messed up!?! Try again dipshit. In your list of junkers that you would rather buy you mention cobalt ss...so a plastic piece of shit with the words super sport on it doesn't seem like a big mess up to you? cuz chevy is lying is to you if think ANY of their cars are built for performance.

  • @posvibration21 How can you even say that none of chevys cars are built for performance? you sound dumb so just stop talking. the cobalt ss is cheaper and will smoke a civic si

  • Car companies need to quit cheaping out. They always come out with a "Special Edition" vehicle and the only thing special about it is badging and suspension components. DO SOMETHING TO THE ENGINE FOR A CHANGE!

  • if i had money... id definitely get one. but unfortunately... im not made of money... id take an EVO or a WRX by that time...

  • Always liked the civic, but the $30,000 Mugen Si, "F*ck NO". Type R, not a wanna-be knock off. Better off buying something else, Mazdaspeed 3, Gti, Cobalt SS, Wrx, used Evo, R32 or Sti and you still have money for modifications. Honda, messed up again.

  • i wish you can drive like this in the streets

  • I love the sedan but why pay 25k for the racing version of the si. I just paid 11k for the lx model. When would I be taking it to the track anyway. Beautiful car though. Especially for its class and price range

  • Awesome and beautiful car...but NOT the best FWD car ever.

  • What is the point of tuning an economy car. The engine is not made for performance. What a piece of shit

  • @WretchedDrake Have you actually done any research on the Civic Si? Well if you did you would know that it has one of the best 2 liter engines you can get in today's market.

  • no way 29k for a civic...i would rather get accord v6 Mt......

  • hey eddy, can we trade jobs?

  • rotfl! VTEC comment of the year: "I don't want to know how fast I'm going (probably not as fast as you may think) I want to know what my RPMs are."

  • Cobalt SS Turbocharged actually won this in 2008. My pick for second would go to the Mazdaspeed 3. I know this'll get flamed because a lot of people hate the Cobalt, but the Cobalt was actually keeping with and in some cases pulling the Evo X MR in track tests.

  • @brenticus83 yea, but how many of those 2008's are left now?

  • @slurp812 the discontinuation of those cars had nothing to do with how good they were. i mean, they got replaced with the cruze for God's sake! people kept whining about how the dashboard felt too plasticky, that's the only reason. the ss models just weren't enough to keep the platform popular enough since most people who bought the cobalt wanted a grocery getter.

  • The American Honda`s are the slowest..

    Compare it to the JDM cars..

  • @Dutchcrimes wtf are u talking about?

  • lol stickier tires...

  • Phf.......... XD best FWD ever??? dude thats totaly Saab's Title.......... you ever heard of a saab Viggen? or a saab 95 HOT Aero?

    More torque to the front wheels then this even has HP.........

  • @Howie262 then you get torque steer you dumbfuck. Honda has eliminated torque steer in all of there FWD vehicles. Did GM get rid of torque steer? NO!

  • @sexyboi142 bro, the only good honda ever made was the Acura NSX.......... period.........

    which i actualy like.........

    all other hondas are Mo-ped engine fart pipes.

  • @Howie262 Honda has made more than just ONE good car, they had the Prelude and S2000

  • @sexyboi142 Prelude is a joke, S2000 is great. The NSX is also Great.

    The only 2 good Hondas ever made were the S2000 and the NSX..........

  • @Howie262 i agree 

  • @Howie262 wow your fuckin retarded. s2000, integra, rsx, si, crx (possibly best selling car of the 80's), prelude, type rr... dude the list goes on. honda engineers are know for being the best of the best. they toy with other manufacturers just because of the knowledge they have in not only cars, but bikes too.

  • For this price I'd rather have a WRK, Mazdaspeed 3 or even a GTi. Civic is a great car was way overpriced for this edition. The competition is killing the Civic now.

  • SRT4 better FWD

  • stop crying you little girls...proove your talk on the track....bring your gti, cobalt, evo, or w/e...ill bring the my si...PM me if you live in california and ill meet you guys at willow....

  • @shikahkah Exactly, nothing drives like an si...and I've driven them all. I do wish they sold the Type R here...Plus 8th civic kicks ass and the ppl are cool, and older like me.

  • mi VOLKSWAGUEN GTI easy smok this piece of shit.....fucking dreamers...

  • @juliangamboa69

    your german crap can smoke my cock !!!!! and you 2 ! :)

  • @juliangamboa69 s stock for stock race between a gti, and this mugen si around the track, the GTI would get smoked dude... you can't compare a moded gti though, cause its not a fair race.

  • @juliangamboa69 haha volkswaguen

  • @juliangamboa69 They are both good cars, I have owned both.

  • the mugen name!

  • 30K ?? Great Car but well over priced for a small Civic Car with the options More like it should be around 18 K to 20 K and thats on the high side .

  • @1968DodgePolara replicating this car using a sedan si as a base would cost alot more.

  • Obviously Mitsufq360 has no idea what hes talking about, your name implies you know something about Mitsu, do you have one? I do its an 09 Evo GSR and if I didnt have the money i did I would have bought the Si in a heartbeat, how dare you menton the cobalt, have you driven one of those? Definitely not. Sorry mister fq360, if you dont have faith in japanese cars then join a cobalt club and go get your groceries, my grandmother needs a lift. In fact, she will take YOU to the store in her Cobalt.

  • @Scottiesurfer please dont be so mean, you wouldnt want someone to commit a suicide for what you just said, do you?

  • @TheJulz91 lololololol. why so serious?? he never said anything bad enough to make someone to commit suicide. Who are you? An extremely sheltered person? Wow.

  • @Perfect5Recurve i was being sarcastic, anyway my point was that it was a big diss, specially the my grand ma will take you to the store in her cobalt loll. just saying that if i was him id proly be in a corner of my room crying like a baby loll

  • @Perfect5Recurve i thought the my grand ma could take you in her cobalt was brutal but whatever

  • fuck the weak ass civic. I'm pretty sure the cobalt ss would lap faster, and if you dont want a rental car interior the next best would be a mazdaspeed 3. I thought I wanted a si, then I test drove one.

  • ahhhhh chevy ford dodge!!!! if you dont drive an american car youre a super gay fag ass!!!!!!!!!

  • @tonymontana19892012 *CORRECTION*

    if your name is tonymontana19892012 youre a super gay fag ass!!!!!!!!!

  • "I just got done lapping.. and I gotta say. I really really enjoy it"

    "The biggest thing I noticed is how stiff the rear end is"

  • i want 1

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  • lada niva is the best 4wd .....finale

  • Theres nothing better than honda

  • @hondakid182

    subaru impreza wrx sti & audi r8 & nissan gtr... PWNED!!!

  • you have to drive it to believe it..

  • i think the volvo c30 is a better fwd car, faster and cheaper. but thats my opinion

  • @pnobeach cheaper?

  • @JoseM3CSL yeah its 21k brand new

  • Best FWD remains the king Integra R / DC5!.

  • not such a pro driver...could have used a pro driver