Maybe I'm not "intellectual" enough, but what is it all about with that (wrong-English)phrase: "like you know, put the eyes on beauty is to put the eyes on (the) death"?
First: "A YOU KNOW" ??? What does he mean with "as you know"? Is that any kind of natural or universal law?
Second: "... to put the eyes on (the) death"! What is so compelling about that?
I take Visconti's "conclusion" as an earnest and very personal, but futile and trite phrase-mongering...
Actually, Visconti is not invoking any "universal law" but quoting some Rilke's lines from the "Duineser Elegien", which makes sense in the German cultural background of the film.
To an artist who is only looking for beauty, to come face to face with it in its absolute form is to reach the end. Comprendo? An artist like Visconti does not do phrase-mongereing like Hollywood directors who cater to the masses to impress them.
Martin's character was a cross-dressing, child molesting disturbed man in an incestuous relationship with his mother. At the end he was a womanizing SS master. What a combo.
If there isn't a direct financial incentive and the risk of personal financial ruin, the worker gets lazy, and the consumer suffers. The only way to ensure commercial and social progress is to let businesses compete in a free trade marketplace. It is natural selection--not every venture is equally profitable, and not everyone can survive, commercially speaking. Capitalism and corporate-culture are not synonymous. True capitalism requires individual responsibility for individual actions.
In America private ownership has destroyed and uglified the landscape. Every parceled-out acre of land is an ugly little Applebee's or Barnes and Noble or planned neo-traditional community...all of it mismatched and choking. I think as capitalism makes everyone stronger and safer it makes the almighty dollar more valuable than the quality of life.
Lately the dollar is not as almighty as it was. I would like to see the American capitalists then how they will feel with this quality of life and this cheap currency.
I think it is more ascribable to a general cultural and aesthetic depravation than to capitalism. Was the USSR a beatiful place to drive around in? And take the Netherlands, where so much is planned by local governments, yet the architecture is ugly and suffocating. The US are a democracy: if the citizens really cared about how their country looks they would have voted accordingly.
I am just reading your conversation and I'll tell you one thing: my country Poland is going through the same process of destruction of beauty; yet, how may this world go on in its existence if it destros the very essence of our lives, the very essence of our civilization?
More sadly, the poisonous inequality and snobbery exists as much as it did. But it is increasingly only an inquality of money and therefore a snobbery about the most trivial of things. Strange how while the obsession with petty class-trapping (private schools, double-barrelled names, ect) ever increases, the truly important thing, the love of great art and music, continues to plummet.
More sadly, england still has as much inequality and snobbery as ever. But it is increasingly only an inequality of money, a vulgar snobbery (if that makes sense). What is strange is how the love of the trivial class trapping (prestigious private schools, double-barrelled names ect) is greater than ever before, while the truly important and life-imporoving thing, the love of great art and music, continues to plummet.
Yeah tell me about it I live in the middle of london! England is a cultural waste-land. The destruction of the higher life in england has surely had a lot to do with the attempted abolishment of the class system. The very idea of developing a great soul is seen as anti-egalitarian (it's even worse in america).
Evil is a Gooooooooooooooooooood!
19BenZ57 1 month ago
Maybe I'm not "intellectual" enough, but what is it all about with that (wrong-English)phrase: "like you know, put the eyes on beauty is to put the eyes on (the) death"?
First: "A YOU KNOW" ??? What does he mean with "as you know"? Is that any kind of natural or universal law?
Second: "... to put the eyes on (the) death"! What is so compelling about that?
I take Visconti's "conclusion" as an earnest and very personal, but futile and trite phrase-mongering...
Or does anybody know better?
Rotebuehl 2 years ago
Actually, Visconti is not invoking any "universal law" but quoting some Rilke's lines from the "Duineser Elegien", which makes sense in the German cultural background of the film.
europecinema 2 years ago
Death is the end of life.
To an artist who is only looking for beauty, to come face to face with it in its absolute form is to reach the end. Comprendo? An artist like Visconti does not do phrase-mongereing like Hollywood directors who cater to the masses to impress them.
RonAlmeida 2 years ago
Martin's character was a cross-dressing, child molesting disturbed man in an incestuous relationship with his mother. At the end he was a womanizing SS master. What a combo.
WestechWatcher 2 years ago 2
03:40 no he didn't
Cecile1971 3 years ago
Visconti è un dio. A morte Fellini
aaabomber 3 years ago
Perchè "A morte Fellini" ?????
Rotebuehl 2 years ago
VERAMENTE GRANDE
gazzella59 3 years ago
If there isn't a direct financial incentive and the risk of personal financial ruin, the worker gets lazy, and the consumer suffers. The only way to ensure commercial and social progress is to let businesses compete in a free trade marketplace. It is natural selection--not every venture is equally profitable, and not everyone can survive, commercially speaking. Capitalism and corporate-culture are not synonymous. True capitalism requires individual responsibility for individual actions.
philosophermax 3 years ago
In America private ownership has destroyed and uglified the landscape. Every parceled-out acre of land is an ugly little Applebee's or Barnes and Noble or planned neo-traditional community...all of it mismatched and choking. I think as capitalism makes everyone stronger and safer it makes the almighty dollar more valuable than the quality of life.
synthwerk 3 years ago 2
Lately the dollar is not as almighty as it was. I would like to see the American capitalists then how they will feel with this quality of life and this cheap currency.
Ebonyhorse23 3 years ago 2
I think it is more ascribable to a general cultural and aesthetic depravation than to capitalism. Was the USSR a beatiful place to drive around in? And take the Netherlands, where so much is planned by local governments, yet the architecture is ugly and suffocating. The US are a democracy: if the citizens really cared about how their country looks they would have voted accordingly.
henripche 3 years ago
I am just reading your conversation and I'll tell you one thing: my country Poland is going through the same process of destruction of beauty; yet, how may this world go on in its existence if it destros the very essence of our lives, the very essence of our civilization?
MARTINKUK1 4 years ago 4
More sadly, the poisonous inequality and snobbery exists as much as it did. But it is increasingly only an inquality of money and therefore a snobbery about the most trivial of things. Strange how while the obsession with petty class-trapping (private schools, double-barrelled names, ect) ever increases, the truly important thing, the love of great art and music, continues to plummet.
Alessandro1985 4 years ago 4
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Alessandro1985 4 years ago 4
More sadly, england still has as much inequality and snobbery as ever. But it is increasingly only an inequality of money, a vulgar snobbery (if that makes sense). What is strange is how the love of the trivial class trapping (prestigious private schools, double-barrelled names ect) is greater than ever before, while the truly important and life-imporoving thing, the love of great art and music, continues to plummet.
Alessandro1985 4 years ago 4
Yeah tell me about it I live in the middle of london! England is a cultural waste-land. The destruction of the higher life in england has surely had a lot to do with the attempted abolishment of the class system. The very idea of developing a great soul is seen as anti-egalitarian (it's even worse in america).
Alessandro1985 4 years ago 10
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Alessandro1985 4 years ago 5
@Alessandro1985 Yes. It's most unfortunate the little people do not stay in their place. It must make you very sore. Ahh yes. La Dolce Vita!
starstuff 1 year ago
Italian culture has since gone down the drain totally!
Alessandro1985 4 years ago 8