Zeitgeist 4: Beyond The Pale (Official Pre-Trailer)

[Warfist264]

As long as people sit on their arse and think 'making a difference and transition for me is too beyond my thought capacity' we're going to stay a type 0 civilization, that the leaders that assassinate or cover up breakthroughs and get rich thrive in.

Rather than become a type 1 civilization were lying phony leaders are out of the picture and the people lead with the guidance of a qualified individual or 'GOOD' dictator thrive in. because everything that SHOULD be is backwards right now.

[Warfist264]

Capitalism currency: Base - Constant need for artificial value to keep sheeple working for illusioned profit to line the higher ups. Tools and items of need designed to break down for repair or new products. Destined house: Destruction of self and resources.

Communism non profit: Base - Certain but not entire necessity to work and become enslaved for a need rather than for growth as a people. items made of sustainability and lasting for as long as possible. Destined House: thriving survival.

[Tigerace1UK]

Let's hope we are still around to see this.

[shanepealow44]

I am excited but this trailer is shit lol

[akais5]

@ChateauSiran1986 Dude are you serious? The media potraits Zeitgeist as some sort of conspiracy cult and uses the Jared Loughner's incident to throw shyt and give it bad rep everytime they can. Don't be silly. Just look at CBS for example, their documental on it at on "60 minutes". Just so out of context and retarded, clearly anti-TZM all over the place.

[akais5]

@ChateauSiran1986 What the fuk are you talking about vegetarians dumb kunt? Im not a vegetarian. My point was that there are more evolved, safer, healthy ways of eating meat thanks the technology and knowledge. Eating raw meat is unnecessary nowadays. But anyway, enjoy your anisakis.

[akais5]

@ChateauSiran1986 If you are a retard who eats microbe-infested raw meat to prove a point then continue doing so, evolved people with an education on biology will be avoiding such practices.

[seraph101]

@ChateauSiran1986 No we have become (wannabe) meat eaters. We are not natural meat eaters, mainly because we have zero such instincts. You simply don't have them. You would never hunt down an animal and eat it raw right there on the spot. It's not in us.

[seraph101]

@ChateauSiran1986 No no no. You are wrong. You can go a whole life without meat and be just fine. This is a fact, you can not change that. And again, you have no instincts to eat meat at all, nothing. We have never had that. So I would like to see you go fishing and when get a catch, pull it out and stuff it in your mouth, mr natural meat eater. :D

[nateball419]

If humans weren't natural meat eaters then everyone would agree that meat tastes like shit. If citys and luxury weren't natural then there would only be one city full of luxury that people would flock to. ChateauSiran1986, I see through you, and alot more people will once your bank notes arent worth shit. PEACE

[seraph101]

@ChateauSiran1986 Then how come people with no meat in their diet very often live several years longer than people WITH meat in their diets? And as far as I know, the zeitgeist films have never adressed dietary issues. You have watched them, right? And it is a fact that humans are not natural meat eaters, and the best proof of this is our complete lack of carnivorus instincts. If I am wrong, use your carnivore speed, chase down a squirrel and eat it raw.

[seraph101]

@ChateauSiran1986 What I'm saying is we are not natural meat eaters. And really, go eat grass? You are juts a little idiot aren't you? You think that's what vegetarians eat? And no it's not that hard to get rich, but it is on the other hand retarded throwing your life away trying to achieve monetary wealth.

[seraph101]

@ChateauSiran1986 Humans are wannabe meat eaters... We have no such instincts what so ever. And making money is nothing but a waste of time. Completely unnecessary.

[666awesome666]

you two should get a room and hug it out

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 Judging by the information on your youtube profile, ("intresses: Time and How it Works, Money, Freedom, Power, Selling, Stocks...") I'd say the the film's message scared you by threatening the very way of life you identify with. So stop being so emotional and go watch porn or something. Ejaculate on your bank notes while your at it

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 You'd probably make more sense if I were high on crack right now. Nobody want's to trust your poor grammatical skills or to hear your bullshit nays to something as trivial as an internet film.

If you didn't identify with the zeitgeist film series in some way you wouldn't have kept this conversation going.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 Your logic would make sense if lions hunted and killed other lions on a regular basis.

Is english your first language? I'm having a hard time following your poorly written prose and it's making me doubt the dutch education system.

[sammackers]

@ChateauSiran1986

The system you talk about "SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST" aka Social Darwinism is the most repugnant philosophy to have ever existed. It contributed to Nazi philosophy and has been utilised by racists to the nth degree.

What you have to realise is how inefficient profit motive is. A car to last ten years? A waste. A phone to last two years. A waste. Everything is made as shitty as tenably possible.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 I respect your opposition to the internet movie. Maybe I didn't identify with the film as much as you. Im grateful I know how to benefit from our system, and I physically care for those that don't. But nothing in the film really upset me enough to tell people to trust me in saying that it's bullshit lies.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 And what are you? Besides marginalizing? You really shouldn't quote a film if you have't seen it, because what you have in quotations is found no where in this film series.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 Im not interested neither so I'll be blunt. Theres no vegetarian message in any film in this series. The circle of life doesn't offend me. We know you don't get it. And yes I've seen a lion kill a zebra on television, how much do you want to bet and do you have a pay pal account? LOL RIDICULOUS.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 You hold a weak argument, people would be better off watching zeitgeist rather than trusting you.Your hate is empowering a piece of art.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 I don't know if we share the same view of what's right and what's wrong. But I liked the film for what it was worth, which is nothing, while you openly hate on it while ignoring the duality of what your saying. Liking something and not liking something is merely two sides to the same coin.

I haven't read any of Johan Von Goethe's books (from 240 years ago when society differed), thanks for the direction of interest because I see numerous works of his online for sale.

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 So what are you implying? The other side of what? Morality? I agreed with you dude. Me and you are not so different. This film may as well be marked off as new world order propaganda but I don't recall this film saying eating meat is bad, or that making money is even bad or that you should feel sick for partaking in it. As far as I'm concerned, I try not to have an opinion about morality. Have you even watched the films?

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986 Thats odd, I get suggestions when I type in the matrix. There is no doubt it's manipulation. And you may as well say its bullshit, considering language only allows a fictionalized vision of the past. But even if the facts are not correct, the message of the movie still thrives. It's only as true and dramatic as you make it so why would it be illegal to watch it?

[ola6861]

@ChateauSiran1986 LOL

[nateball419]

@ChateauSiran1986

The government wants us to believe awareness is the only thing of value?

[EonBlueApocolypse]

Thanks for this, man.

[AndersonReel]

"Zeitgeist 5: Backed with FACT."

[delatroy]

More vague coincidences to look forward to :)

[BeyondDGrave]

@delatroy

What vague coincidences are you talking about? lol

Are you one of the people that is still stuck on the first movie? Evolve.

[MetalManDan7]

@delatroy theres no such thing as coincidences...

[ola6861]

@MetalManDan7 there is only the 'inevitable

[Katharsis540]

epic

[shadowfaxx1]

I didn't know a new one was coming!

YESSSS!

[Airicks1]

How many movies are expected to be in the series? I'm assuming more then 4 because its such a broad topic and though a 2 hour lob movie is a long time for a movie, its not that long considering what the Zeitgeist promotes.