Hello flaskofcoffee. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
You say: "Default is deflationary as it destroys money". Is that necessarily the case?
Money is borrowed against, say, a house. That money goes through account to account and through fractional reserve banking grows to 10x the original.
If the original loan goes bad, the money that loan created doesn't evaporate. Isn't the nett effect a hole in the balance sheet equal to loan minus foreclosure price covered by fed printing TARP money?
Of course, my question is, since these "patsy" are sitting on bad loans, that the average American has defaulted on, how does the "survivors" plan on making money on these assets?
I mean, you have a lot of Americans that have simply "walked away from their obligations", since interest rates have climbed(for instance on mortgages).
There are a lot of empty houses sitting around the country, now.
What about credit card defaults, on mostly non-recoverable items?
thanks FOC...do you believe the US is currently undergoing a kind of subtle deflationary spiral as we speak?
95% of the money supply is in the form of debt. ie. bank promises to pay...and people are still consuming things they dont really need with money they dont have.
IMO, if we all had savings and limited debt (something i have worked to acheive), i think a deflationary spiral is just what the doctor ordered...and it must be intense.
I think, as you suggest, we must still be in a subtle deflationary environment as the great credit bubble continues to unwind behind the scenes.
That does not mean that we cannot also experience some price inflation, in some areas - and certainly inflation EXPECTATIONS have risen - as well as speculative interest in gold, etc, through fear of inflation and 'unrest' to come.
The debacle is not over yet, imo.
p.s. Default (in the vid) could mean pensions, etc, not just debts.
Confirmed it was Bob Chapman who said that the word was that BOA was being loaded with toxic assets. He also said that their CEO had resigned, and no one wanted the job. I also thought that when Flask mentioned a bank where no one wanted the poisoned chalice, I, too, assumed he was talking about BOA.
It's very appropriate in a Satanic sort of way that it's named "Bank" of "America."
Regarding Goldman, however, they may be forced to undo the bank holding company classification, which is scam, as a way of deflecting the pitch forks and torches, and this would make them less liquid overnight. I think the quiet banks like Barclays, Deutsche and Paribas will emerge the real winners in the end. Goldman's status as a political institution may eventually hurt it: he that giveth can take it...
For the UK this has already happened, the govt banks are the patsies. The others may have more to hide/sell - will the government approve the transfer of more toxic debt into these patsy banks? - probally.
The default risk has now passed to the government , so surely the question is , when will the interest rates for these loans reflect the real risk of default... that must be the next development... or will our foreign creditors watch the value of their money be inflated away.
Nicely done! HSBC is the patsy eh? Makes sense corporations exist for the people running it or profiting from it, thus it is logical to us a corporation that will fall on it's sword for everyone else.
The CEO will need an exit plan because it's a Chines bank and they kill leaders that commit fraud over there.
I would have thought the Dubai drop was the same as the leeman drop of orgs covering shorts and carries. Like your thinking though! my guess for end game favours default though this would not be an intentional game plan.
Is gold a metal? or is it a thought?
MrFalconford 5 months ago
Very well done indeed. Buy physical Gold and Silver, hold it until the patsy explodes!
TheSilverWatch 1 year ago
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mdunn604 2 years ago
Hello flaskofcoffee. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
You say: "Default is deflationary as it destroys money". Is that necessarily the case?
Money is borrowed against, say, a house. That money goes through account to account and through fractional reserve banking grows to 10x the original.
If the original loan goes bad, the money that loan created doesn't evaporate. Isn't the nett effect a hole in the balance sheet equal to loan minus foreclosure price covered by fed printing TARP money?
nickrhill 2 years ago
patsies... fannie mae, freddie mac??
tyronebiggums3 2 years ago
Could be - stack 'em up with junk, then let some 'surprise events' take 'em down... and the mess is buried with them.
flaskofcoffee 2 years ago
@flaskofcoffee
Of course, my question is, since these "patsy" are sitting on bad loans, that the average American has defaulted on, how does the "survivors" plan on making money on these assets?
I mean, you have a lot of Americans that have simply "walked away from their obligations", since interest rates have climbed(for instance on mortgages).
There are a lot of empty houses sitting around the country, now.
What about credit card defaults, on mostly non-recoverable items?
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago
great vid
feegeit 2 years ago
thanks FOC...do you believe the US is currently undergoing a kind of subtle deflationary spiral as we speak?
95% of the money supply is in the form of debt. ie. bank promises to pay...and people are still consuming things they dont really need with money they dont have.
IMO, if we all had savings and limited debt (something i have worked to acheive), i think a deflationary spiral is just what the doctor ordered...and it must be intense.
legion0101 2 years ago 2
Hi Legion.
I think, as you suggest, we must still be in a subtle deflationary environment as the great credit bubble continues to unwind behind the scenes.
That does not mean that we cannot also experience some price inflation, in some areas - and certainly inflation EXPECTATIONS have risen - as well as speculative interest in gold, etc, through fear of inflation and 'unrest' to come.
The debacle is not over yet, imo.
p.s. Default (in the vid) could mean pensions, etc, not just debts.
flaskofcoffee 2 years ago
@legion0101 its inflation happening---your deflation arguement does not hold water when copper and silver and gold are at new all time highs
kevreilly7 1 year ago
JP Morgan is holding a huge amount of shorts on the comex.
NovusChaoMundi 2 years ago
watch?v=hoOLlqXu7bw
scary shit
fox20012 2 years ago
you know I cant remember where prolly was bob chapman, but some one was saying BOA was being loaded with toxic assests or something ... scary stuff
fox20012 2 years ago
Confirmed it was Bob Chapman who said that the word was that BOA was being loaded with toxic assets. He also said that their CEO had resigned, and no one wanted the job. I also thought that when Flask mentioned a bank where no one wanted the poisoned chalice, I, too, assumed he was talking about BOA.
recessionlover 2 years ago
This is an excellent video, thanks!
bluecat1122 2 years ago 4
good video, i think the endgame is a one world currency, i just hope people don't fall for it,
boptah 2 years ago 2
Hello Flask, Please compare these 5 stocks side by side on a graph:
GLD, SLV, GDX, FNV and AGQ
Now, minus the risk of individual equities, you should see some pretty good returns on these ETFs, especially AGQ.
thereallurker 2 years ago 2
Cool beans FOC
NAVYGOLDEIGHTFOUR 2 years ago
It's very appropriate in a Satanic sort of way that it's named "Bank" of "America."
Regarding Goldman, however, they may be forced to undo the bank holding company classification, which is scam, as a way of deflecting the pitch forks and torches, and this would make them less liquid overnight. I think the quiet banks like Barclays, Deutsche and Paribas will emerge the real winners in the end. Goldman's status as a political institution may eventually hurt it: he that giveth can take it...
MarcusCMarcellus 2 years ago
You hit the nail right on the head.
codematrix 2 years ago 2
Great Vid all the way around,,great cartoons!
CosmicDramaQueen 2 years ago
So far the junk is being accumulated on the Fed's balance sheet
jocknomore 2 years ago
For the UK this has already happened, the govt banks are the patsies. The others may have more to hide/sell - will the government approve the transfer of more toxic debt into these patsy banks? - probally.
The default risk has now passed to the government , so surely the question is , when will the interest rates for these loans reflect the real risk of default... that must be the next development... or will our foreign creditors watch the value of their money be inflated away.
RIPPING1001 2 years ago
You were also talking about a *possible* deflationary environment... I don't think so, Warren Buffet doesn't either. I see prices rising in stores
Adahondeayenh 2 years ago
With India, China, and 22 of the largest 24 Hedge funds in the U.S. buying gold, the future looks bright.
Follow the smart money and make the big bucks!
Adahondeayenh 2 years ago
It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
"May you live in interesting times"
webozzy21 2 years ago
thats if the comex stays solvent
finster37 2 years ago
Fisk with your insight you're giving everyone here an inflatable raft on the Titanic, the industrialized world.
What is great about you is that your not doom and gloom youre pointing at the exit!
Thank you
cosmosgato 2 years ago 3
Sounds reasonable coffee.
What I would advise for savings?
KISS
Keep It Simple Stupid.
So real diversification and real hard assets.
Unmanaged Stock and Bond index funds
Realty and precious metals
Lastly doomsday, thus cheaply acquired, puts.
Oh and Goldman stock.
cosmosgato 2 years ago
Nicely done! HSBC is the patsy eh? Makes sense corporations exist for the people running it or profiting from it, thus it is logical to us a corporation that will fall on it's sword for everyone else.
The CEO will need an exit plan because it's a Chines bank and they kill leaders that commit fraud over there.
davincij15 2 years ago
Sounds plausible. Any idea of a time frame for this series of events, i.e., within the next year, or by 2012, or by 2015, for example? ='[.]'=
Raycheetah 2 years ago
Yes 100% = 5 Stars !
BTW.... I have often recommended your posts often at IV , and agree that your scenario is most likely .
StandUp555 2 years ago
***** stars !!!
NWOIS666 2 years ago
Brilliant! thanks!!
fal2grace 2 years ago
Thank you!
1mealperday 2 years ago 2
where do you see a "Madoff of gold"?
jaybaybaker 2 years ago
great work :o)
thanks
GuildF40 2 years ago
I would have thought the Dubai drop was the same as the leeman drop of orgs covering shorts and carries. Like your thinking though! my guess for end game favours default though this would not be an intentional game plan.
pardonwhat 2 years ago 2
Thanks Flask! Good info, and I think you are spot on with your theory.
InkedXyz 2 years ago 2
great analysis!
jaybaybaker 2 years ago 4