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  • The short of it is- the church today is an activity and entertainment center for anyone and everyone around. The motto is, "What can we offer to attract more people to our church?"

    Unfortunately evangelism is on the bottom of the list- if at all. The classic Rock concert in most churches today is definitely unacceptable.

  • Long live Stryper!!!! 777!! He's the rock that makes me roll!!

  • . . and this preacher's growing anger in his manner is not a false fire, will of the flesh, useless ignorant zeal?

    I do not dispute the bankruptcy of what he criticizes, but everyone looks at the other fellow and ignores their own sin

    i have the liberty to worship God in my favourite music,

    no pharisee is going to take that away from me when God laboured hard to give it back to me

  • . . . and if the churches do not entertain they bully.

    why? because there is no love in the churches, so if we take the faith seriously enough not to entertain we wil be loveless fanatics

    bullies

    pharisees

    hypocrites

  • Fucking cult member! Seeker Sensitive All The Way!

  • Yes they have to have a fill in to replace what they dont have,They dont have the Holyspirit who is the real Leader.But he cannot enter in to sin with these false christ.

  • man you look just like fritz springmeir

  • WELL DONE as a Muslim Im so impressive whit your statement you are true believer and all Christian should follow you message. Amen and God bless you…

  • True Worship Is to do his will...it's very simple...not complicated... show love for your fellow man...humbleness...kindness...­.care...''''YOU ARROGANT BASTERDS!...@@@@BOOM@@@@ 2012

  • Whose decision is it that worship must be done a certain way? God never said, "Thou shalt not worship me through the following genres..." This is a perfect example of over-emphasis on tradition. It doesn't matter what "style" is bieng employed, worship is worship. The music doesn't even matter. God isn't a reader of actions, he's a reader of intentions, and a genuine worshipful heart matters more to him than what kind of music is being played.

  • You use a computer to spread the word of God. That's okay but Instruments are not? arent there more important conversations we could be having?

  • KOOOO! KOOOO!

  • This is the most incorrect teaching ever. This isn't biblical.

  • Amen, Brother, Amen. This is a very true video. Amen liveforGodskingdom!

  • @matthew28foru No prob! ;)

  • @matthew28foru It is different when it is a believer and a non-believer.It is apparent through this man's teaching that he is not a true believer.I would just let him go. :)

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  • You are right when you comment on people worshiping the pastor and not the Word. As a pastor that really bothers me. Worship is entertainment. God is the audience. That's what we forget.

    But I disagree with you on the music. Does the music have to be boring to keep us from clapping? I don't feel very worshipful with bad music. I do with quality music with lots of instrumentation. Our job as leaders in the church is to direct the people's attention to God.

  • Whereas as I agree that in some cases, worship has become one great rock concert, it is unfair to say that "all" churches have become slaves to capitalism, drawing crowds in to pad their pockets. Generally, the music played is the kind I like, and it is great for worshiping God.

    As for Christian rock - depending on the band, it's meant to be entertainment. First of all, Christian is a noun. So they're bands full of Christians. Secondly, they are trying to communicate they're values through song.

  • You are a prophet we all need to hear, brother. Thank you!

  • If blind obedience and to an imaginary god, I would agree. But enlightened obedience to an actual living God is pure joy. God is not evil, He is righteous and loving, wanting the best for His creation.

  • "Many churches have turned Worshiping Yahweh into entertainment, using choirs, and inappropriate "Christian" music to entertain and draw a crowd - like a business would do. "

    that statement hits the nail on the head but as for "Worshiping the creator of heaven and earth is in humble obedience and love for Him and our neighbor."

    can you demonstrate that such an entity exists and that you in fact know his will?

  • How does one go about finding a church where worship is not a form of entertainment, where righteousness and holiness is commanded, not optional. Where salvation is taught as salvation from sin, not salvation from hell? Thanks.

  • @RobertMOdell or you could just try thinking foryourself instead of blindly following the other blind, fallable mortals

  • @robertwc82 It's good to find people who are obedient to God.

  • @RobertMOdell not me, i find blind obedience disgusting. whether it is to a dictator of a country like North Korea or an imaginary evil dictator of the universe.

  • @RobertMOdell ....p.s ....you know, like the poster of this video has done

  • you are a flamethrower for faith!

  • Exactly why I turned my back on churches in my teen years. I have lived the experience of a church that turned into nothing more than a "passion play." I truly wish I could meet someone like you with such understanding of scripture which I could actually communicate with and learn more from. I have gained much understanding on my own and through prayer, but honestly it is very lonesome trying to be on the right spiritual path in this country (america.) I can't find anyone with the love of truth.

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  • The truth is a hard pill to swallow but that is what you are giving my friend - cold hard truth - its not about pastor worship, or being seen at church as a social event - but many today who are spiritually empty do just that - live as the lawless ones all week thinking that if they are in tight with their pastor ang attend all the social events that they are 'gooed christians' - thank you and may the living God bless you for your message and your work

  • Overblown (over produced) "worship" is missing the point. People should be quietly humble coming to God. Music is a form of thanksgiving to God, for what He's done and who He is. Musicians have to be able to give their gifts to the Lord aswell, it should be done with reverence though (I agree with that totally). Church shouldn't be about a big show.

  • @sweetjimmyhotpants

    but where's my paycheck? ;)

  • can we listen to christian rock

  • @BLOOM2343

    friend, when you look at what is going on in the churches and worship concerts it is a big self focused attitude of enjoyment. That is why so many try to take their favorite music and make it into praise music - this does not work. Since everything has meaning even the tones and rhythms. Watch "food for the 144000 - after the second exodus" on kalamta777's channel and you will understand. Be careful do not get caught up in the ways of modern Christianity - its still a wide road.

  • @LiveForGodsKingdom There is nothing in the bible that says 'christian rock' is wrong.Taking traditions of men and teaching them as doctrine is more dangerous than what you are saying-that is for certain.

  • thank-you, God bless you

  • What happened with David is different and it is not a daily event! He is not in the attitude of the most act in so called worship by many. The whole Bible teach how worship is supposed to be. This is more of Aaron symptoms in Exodus 32, David in 1 Chronicle 13...the secular method. The secular and paganism method is not what God wants. Do not use His holy name upon paganism way of worship! If you are serious with David's way, then follow 1 Chronicle 15 & 25... levities and priests...

  • David a man after God's own heart stripped to his chonies and danced before the Lord accompanied by all sorts of musical instruments. If the worship is in spirit and in truth then it will please God.

  • this comes from 2nd timothy 4:2-4,, Preach the word! be ready in season and out of season. convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching, V3 for the time will come when they will not exdure sound doctrine (which is the word of God) but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears they will heap up for themselves teachers; V4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables

  • this is for all of us not just me you out there we must read the bible and study not just surface read and twist the word to our own distruction also that's in 2nd peter 16 as also in alol his epistles speaking in them of these things hard t understand, which (untaught) and (unstable) people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the (scriptures

  • i am a musician, Yahushua put on my heart to dedicate all the music that i know and can play to Him. yes 75 % of the "churches" i have been to over the last 30 years are business. ok! so what? there are just as many churches that have music that are Holy Spirit lead and open the hearts of believers to worship in truth and Spirit. as well as bringing the unbeliever to respond to the Word message. consider this, that the very things you accuse these churches of are the things going on inside YOU!

  • I really agree on your message man. Why is it that the pastor has taken the whole control over most of thes shurches. I dont find that the first shurches in the bible practised that. And also applauding Jesus or God is neighter worship or praising. Praising is fruits from our lips meaning words coming out of our mouth.

    We need to start reading out loud from the bible instead of preaching ours of emty air. With respect, there are called pastors doing fine work.

  • churches didn't even come until christ died and u should read the rebellion of Korah against moses u r not to talk bad about a pastor you are to pray for your brother eph 6:12 states for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood (that being our brethern and sisters in this world) but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age(being satan and his agents which are the angels that fell from heaven) against spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places

  • it's called korahs rebellion which is moses's cousin numbers 16:03 v1- Now Korah the son of Izhar the son of kohath the son of levi (so you know korah was a priest cause he was a levite) with Dathan and abiram the sons of eliab and on the son of peleth sons of ruben took men, V2 and they rose up before moses with some children of israel two hundred and fifty leaders of the congregation representatives of the congregation me of renown v3 tey gathered together against Moses and Aaron

  • continuing this is not to hurt you but to help save your life we are not to turn to the right or the left focusing on problems but the focus should be on the word which became flesh jesus christ John 1:14 continuing v3 and said to them you take to much upon your selves for all the congregation is holy everyone of them andthe Lord is among them.. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord? now I know you see where i'm going with this please read the entire numbers16

  • I beleave you misunderstood the meaning of my message. I do not talk bad against any pastor. Havent done so and are not doing so eather. I'm just holding gods word up and ask why the pastor have the total attention when the first christian church did not practise that at all. Read 1.corint 12.28. Secondly i stil mean that applauding Jesus or God is neighter worship or praising. Praising is fruits from our lips meaning words coming out of our mouth.

  • I had hoped that the church could practice all the gifts and that all cinds of governments and leadership, not just the pastor but the apostle, the teacher, prophets and miracles. Not just the pastor taking the role of all of them. Also i do strongly beleave that God is using that which are with lacks and faults. If the pastor is all that is there, He whil use the pastor i beleave. But there is i higher level to be reached for the church.

  • COME TOGETHER UNDER HIS BLOOD, HIS GRACE AND MERCY!

    JESUS IS RISEN!

    i DON'T CARE ABOUT ARGUEMENTS CONCERNING EVOLUTION VS CREATION, i DON'T CARE IF SOME ONE RAPS OR BELTS OUT A 'HEAVY TUNE'

    JESUS SPOKE IN PARABLES- STORIES THAT WOULD BE EASILY UNDERSTOOD BY THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY COULD COME INTO A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER IN HEAVEN!

    LIKE I SAID - ITS EASY TO STAND ON THE SIDE LINE AND JUDGE!

  • GO TO CHURCH-MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY HUMBLING YOURSELVES BEFORE OUR FATHER. yOU kNOW JESUS ENTERED THE WORLD, FORGAVE, SAVED, HEALED, PREACHED- IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SO RIGHTEOUS AND BLAMELESS THEN DO A BETTER JOB THAN THOSE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING WHAT THE lORD HAS CALLED THEM TO DO AND STOP BITCHING OUT OF SCHOOL (SOME CALL IT GOSSIP) JUST BECAUSE LIFE ISN'T FAIR- MAN UP LOSER- BY THE WAY CALLING PEOPLE BROTHERS AND SISTERS DOESN'T MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN- REPENT- YOU ARE THE CHURCH!

  • HEY THIS IS A GREAT WAY OF PRETENDING TO BE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CHURCH GUYS! i HAVE A BETTER IDEA!

  • i guess bagging out the church is one way of bringing people back to the lord

    what happens next? Oh I see AMERICA IS DOOMED!! WHAT IS MISSING FROM THIS WORD- C*LT- YOU !!

  • it is easy to judge the works of others

  • Amen!

  • What you said about church services being entertainment is so true. I use to attend a chuch until they included rap music and dancing in their service. Then I visited another church and they had ballet dancers, cheerleaders, and worldly dancing. It was like a circus. :(

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  • Brother Brad, I agree with you. But you speaking sometimes with so much anger in your voice. That could be frightend to some people who know Yehshua as a man of love, humanity and tolerance. And anger between christians and muslims or katholics and protestants led in the past often faith wars. So lets forgive them and peace will be with us through Jesus Christ!!!

  • He said through Paul, that things should be done (in the temple/synagogues/churhes) in an ORDERLY fashion. (worship, exercise of gifts etc.)

    Concider the fruits of the Spirit in comparison to what is exibited in many churches today.

    No wonder many athiests, humanists, or New Agers, (not all) think so highly of their ideologies and themselves. So many wolves in sheeps clothing have done SO MUCH to make us look like idiots.

  • Amen brother. Thank you for your post and I only pray that God uses his spirit to open more eyes and removes more blinders for those that seek him. God bless you brother.

  • I truly appreciate this brother. Speak the truth no matter how few listen. This is the true fire of a believer one that speaks the harsh things with sincerity and love. Don't be offended by his words, but let it sink in. Let the Lord teach you His ways and not man's. God bless you brother.

  • My brother. You and I could both go to an event of any sort. We could both HEAR and SEE the same thing,,,,however,,,,I could get one thing out of it,,,,,lets say a BLESSING,,,,and you could be getting another thing totally. Its ALL about perspective.

  • That's a little bit of confusion there. You and another brother or sister could be at the same place and one or the other may see through lies and one may not and be focused on God and have a personal encouter with Him but it has nothing to do with the people around, but a desire to love the Lord. In the end He will reveal the truths of deception to those who CONTINUALLY seek Him and not run on emotions and feelings that aren't spiritually founded. With love from a brother.

  • Its all about truth my friend and their is only one. Perspective is a relative word and Elohim looks at the heart with understanding so a mans choices and actions reflect what his heart is after. If a man chooses wisdom and understanding those are from Elohim so they will lead a man to the one truth. A man is guilty of not worshiping in spirit and truth if He is not - even if he thinks he is. The way Elohim sees it is the only perspective of truth.

  • Brother I totally agree with you !

    Church should be a peaceful and quiet place where individuals can be nearer to God in worship in union with the local communities.

    There should and must not be bands or overly loud music that makes it

    "entertaining." That's Satan Works.

    Anyway, We must not have loud and over zealous bands during Church as that eventhough is a kind of worship in its own way , is not the proper worship of GOD.

  • I agree with you brother. I remember a time when i go to church i feel the sperit is talking to my heart and the church is very quiet only the paster is talking. NO music, NO jumping up and down.

  • paul washer says if you lure people by carnal means, you must keep them by carnal means... i'm totally with you brother!!!

  • And before some of you bash me for being Mormon just remember prop 8 and how we were instrumental in that succeeding.

  • Church should be a quiet place where one can draw nearer to god and learn his commandments. There should be no bands or overly loud music that makes it "entertaining." Anyway, in the Mormon Church we keep our meetings reverent so that the spirit of the Lord may be fully manifest. We do not have loud and over zealous bands during our meetings nor have we ever done such a thing.

  • Church is not a building anyway it's the body of Messiah. The people in whom He is manifest in the world. Anywhere they meet and fellowship in Him is a church meeting. The modern methods of the church are more theatrical than spiritual. No modifications to those systems will work. We need to have more focus on each other and not a pleasant air conditioned place to take a nap.

  • great video friend...keep up the Lords work,against these phoneys...

  • You are so right. Please make sure when you worship it is in the spirit of truth that it is God we are worshipping. Do not make the horrible mistake of worshipping the music and entertainment.

  • I agree that in many churches the worship has turned into entertainment, but it's OBVIOUS that this guy does not know ANYTHING about the worship experience in the Bible. Has this guy read Psalms or know ANYTHING about David other than the slaying of Goliath? This guy doesn't use ANY scriptural argument that can back up his claims. He's just attacking what he doesn't like. Pathetic.

  • bro your heart is in the wrong place. praise and worship is our first line of defence against the enemy.. Judge not lest you be judged.. Gods Word says that we must praise Him in Spirit and in truth.. those are the true Worshipers.. it don't matter if were in a church or in our houses.. If His Spirit is with us, He is going to be glorified.. You need to seek the real truth brother.. May God bless you and keep you

  • Dude your videos are life changing i see the world in a different way now.

    God bless you

  • Amen brother Amen..you are right, those who are in churches are Dead..they only alive with their flesh.."LET THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD" they are driven by Spirit of ANTIMESSIAH, what can one expect.

  • are you judgeing the people in the church shouldnt you rather praise the lord then worry about other people . just saying

  • You are right. Thank you.

  • Shouldn't praising God be enjoyable? Churches need to adapt to modern living, I mean keep the message the same but do something that attracts the next generation. Are we trying harder to save the grandparents or the teenagers? Clapping for a pastor encourages him to do a better job (and this would be a sinful thing right??). If you would ever tell the pastor he did a good job preaching, then why would you not clap for him(since they mean the same).

  • Honey, I don't think you have been to any Megachurches.. .if you had you would CERTAINLY KNOW WHAT HE MEANS BY ENTERTAINMENT, void of annointing & the holy spirit... There is much of it. They even use secular music AND UNSAVED & UNREPENTANT celebrities to draw crowds & host events. They give celebrities preferred seating & parking when faithful members cannot park on the lot or talk to the pastor face to face. Perhaps being in LOS ANGELES allows me to see so much of it. HOLLYWOOD!

  • If you had a church, would you make the unsaved park in the rear of the building? It don't matter if your a celeberity, Jew or Gentile, unsaved is unsaved and that is only showing kindness to those whe see's bitterness and meaness. are we going to let the unsaved see meaness in our churches by those who are saved? Come on people, wake up

  • I prefer traditional church services and I am 13. If my church goes any where near turning worship into entertainment i would go somewhere else

  • Good for you young one, good for you.

  • da truth was on tbn talking about some very concerning things. i do not belive these artist should promote hip hop the culture itis demonic. Also the ambasador and lots more from cross movement records were on the documentary talking about how they listen adn like 50 cent and other secualr artist. THAT IS NOT COMENDABLE. the only one i havnt seen so dar is lecrea but i have not finished watching the documentary yet

  • believers need to adapt to the truth and the Holy Spirit. Worship is phenominal when it is in spirit & truth. Do you need fireworks a dj and foolishness to intimately praise or worship him? I If you did, I would think that would neither be in spirit nor in truth.. The truth is not a circus where you use things from the world to attract people to what is pure. You then create a perversion of what is pure Not that it should be Monk chants from the 1100s but people have taken it way too far today.

  • so true, there is too much fun and feel good music and lose the true meaning of worship.

  • Let us return to worshiping Yeshua in spirit and in truth.

    Nice vids.

  • Dude- Love your passion. You are likely correct in most of what you said, in most of the churches... but not all. Any music can give glory to God. But it is a two way street. Those producing the worship music need to have their hearts in the right place: humble, submisive. The hearer's, too, must be in a place of receiving God's gift through that particular media. At my church, I have seen this many times... and we have failed at times as well. But we strive to reach the lost where they are.

  • Sir, I disagree with your views since I became a Christian 4 years ago i love being in church - Jesus the reason I am there - I want to dance, sing and praise him. Gifted and talented musicians are honouring God using the talents He has blessed them with, stiring hearts. Sir, you have no idea of the hearts and minds of people worshipping God.Its hard to sing when the death of a father restricts your breathing. If people are singing the gospel, God promises that not one word returns to Him empty

  • amen...you have it right! GOD IS THE ONE WHO GAVE US THESE TALENTS!!! Why not use them to praise Him!

  • I am in absolute agreement with your statements. As long as people clap for me after ministering in music in our church, I will never sing publicly again. I am not a performer and I am not there to amuse entertainment-driven sheep.

  • Sir you are close.

    What organism was charged with spreading the gospel?

    The Churches.

    Who was the caretaker of the gospel?

    The Churches.

    Isnt it obvious to everyone how terribly apostate the churches have become?

    Mystery Babylon is the churches sir. Come out of her. I have no fear in saying this. The Bible is clear to those who see it.

    Every church thinks they are correct, yet they all have different Doctrines.

  • Great video, keep putting the truth out brother.

  • this video is awesome! so true. i do think that it doesn't apply to every church though- he plays more modern music. what matters is who we are trying to please: God or man. as long as God is first, that is what is important. also, that the music,etc. doesn't turn the sacredness of the Gospel into a circus event.

  • This man is not saying that worship and being happy is wrong, he is pointing to the evident lack of spirituality in churches in US, service is built on emotions that come out of music and songs, it should be built only on the Word of God, otherwise these services are fake. Most of the christians in US are asleep.

  • Yes, we are to lead a pure God fearing life. No rap, worldy music to draw the youths and to look like the WORLD. We are to be a HOLY people set apart unti Yahshua. Amen. I also noticed on some sermons audio etc., certain music is played for offerings, Altar calls etc., just a thought. Hymns are good and music and that edifies our Creator Yahweh and his son Yahshua.

  • THERE IS "CHRISTIAN RAP" THAT IS EDIFYING.. it may not be for everyone's taste, but listen to the lyrics. check out DA T.R.U.T.H & THE AMBASSADOR on imeem. .. I went to one of their shows.. it was a nice atmosphere and they ministered in the word for at LEAST a half hour afterwards. They use their gifts for the Kingdom, no secular samples etc. It is a ministry. But there is so much out there that uses the traditional style music to preach lies & false doctrine. BE NOT DECEIVED.

  • I have listened to the ambasador and da truth in fact me and my husband had purchased da truths album i listen to lecrea, but be warned there are MANY christian rappers that are false they are self seeking. look for craig g lewis the trojan horse. it is about so called holy jip hop. i recently watched it and became very concerned.

  • AMEN and AMEN.. finally someone addresses the slick corporate marketing style that has seeped into and displaced the true Word of G-d.. in the objective light of Heaven all exciting and entertaining music is like a jackhammer in the ear of our Lord.. christian rap, rock, and whatnot is an abomination and distraction from what should be constructive and edifying to a lost soul in need of real substance..

  • the sheep know the voice of the shepherd, church music is the antithesis of our lords spiritual voice.. changing the words of worldly music is the devils doing for Jesus was quite and unassuming and meek.. he said, take up your cross daily and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart.. who can abide the vanity and narcism going on in what should be a place of wisdom and understanding? who indeed but fools.. fools rush in were angels fear to tread..

  • worship is knowing the bible, and also obeying His living word, Yahshua.

  • well done good truth here

  • Think about the Christian concerts also. They look like worldly concerts just with different lyrics. Think about the money and the elaborateness used to entertain. Listen to the crowds applause, it is not to God.

    The Babylonian culture of America has corrupted even the church system to call what is evil, good. God does not share in things with a different spirit than His.

    Christian concerts are trying to conform to the world.

    God's truth causes repentance from sinful worldliness.

  • @LiveForGodsKingdom I have been to plenty of Christian concerts,and felt the presence of God there.Let me ask you this:if God were not pleased with the worship,would he bless it with his presence?Absolutely not.Instead of knocking other christian believers,and how they worship,perhaps you should be focusing on your own salvation,and witnessing to the lost.Truly sad,when we have believers destroying other believers.

  • Wow, this is what I have been trying to tell someone today. Good stuff, thats the truth right there. Music is to worship the most high. Hey bro watch the "Worship the King" music video that I have posted, let me know what you think?

  • Great message brother

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