Mark Thomas s03e05 Nuclear Trains Part 1

[YsakDun]

The 84 CEGB test was 90% PR and perhaps 10% in merit as a containment vessel but they are immpressive. However trains derail, they risk jack kniving, in the worst case the flask gets pinned up against a solid concrete bridge abutment and another train plows into it. With nowhere for the flask to go tell me how is all that energy dissapated?

[julia01575]

"Bingo, safe as houses there boys!" hahaha

[oOoxelAoOo]

To be brutally honest, unused nuclear fuel rods are only dangerous if you decide you're going to eat them. Used nuclear fuel is another story, yes they ARE incredibly dangerous. But the transport vessels are very well built, there is a particularly famous video where the generating board crashed a cargo train into one of these vessels at 100 mph. Although the train was destroyed, there was not enough damage to the container that would have caused any leak.

[NapalmTheElf]

Marks genius is that unlike people who just whine about stuff like this, or those who have been so dumbed down that they have no idea about it at all, Mark firstly shows how bloody stupid things are and how arrogant our governments are, but he THEN shows them that not everyone is stupid enough to put up with it.

[paxam30]

What is a commie. In responce to king frog. I think that you may be deluded and have no concept of relatity. You may be a supporter of the corporate state and thus be a neo fascist. Thus a suporting member of economic rationalism. Arn't they making a mess of my economy.

[xxxKINGFROGxxx]

FUCKING COMMIE!

[njw3000]

@xxxKINGFROGxxx ha ha, you loser. Do you even know what a "communist" is? Do you know anything about Mark Thomas's politics? He's such an extremist radical that he votes for..... the Green Party. Hardly makes him a revolutionary, does it?

[thursoallan]

If anyone is worried about Nuclear Fuel flask transportation they should see the footage teh CEGB took in the 1970's where they ploughed a train at 70mph into a flask. This caused almost zero damage to the flask. Nuclear will always remain a scary thing to most people but it really is a lot lot safer than people realise.

[shoperty]

tell that to the people of chernobyl. ive worked in the orphanges there

educate yourself

[thursoallan]

Educate myself? My job is to protect people from ionising radiations. Specialising in decommissioning redundant nuclear facilities. The Chenobyl incident is entirely different than the transportation of irradiated fuel in the UK. Coal power stations put more radiation into the environment than nuclear stations. People in cornwall get more radiation dose than 99% of nuclear workers in the UK. If you saw the safeguards at a nuclear site to protect the environment you would be astounded.

[shoperty]

I can imagine there are enormous safeguards, but it comes down to human error. Thats all it takes. Are you going to tell me an enormous mistake cannot happen? Look at the landmass of the UK also, there is nowhere to run. They want to build more of the things also. Look at Frances track record (who incidentally will be building our new facilities), was much better than ours. Until that large leak in where else but the untouched beauty of provence recently.

[shoperty]

Accidents and mistakes happen regularly, albeit small scale or so we're told. Nothing on this planet has potential for greater disaster than this 'industry'. Its a ticking timebomb also we dont have an adequate system for disposal of the waste. Its short term thinking that will get us in a world of hurt. I want a great future for my family not this. It is forced on most of us who DO NOT WANT THIS!

[thursoallan]

I want it, millions of other Britons want it. Renewable energy at a cost and efficiency to provide for britain is many years off still. There will be an energy shortage in 10 years time. If nuclear is not supported Britain will shut down. Another generation of power stations would add maybe 5% to the existing waste as they are designed with decommissioning in mind. They are also extremely safe. Even the ageing stations we have now cant to a 'chenobyl' or even a 'windscale' now.

[thursoallan]

If you are worried about radiation. Stop drinking coffee and eating banana's and certain nuts. They have very large radioactive contents quite naturally and will give you a dose. Your house is made of radioactive bricks, they give you a fair whack as well. 1% of your radiation dose a year comes from power stations, chenobyl and all the weapons testing they did in the 50's.

[waofy]

I used to be a supporter of nuclear power because of this argument but now I'm against it. The cost of building and then decommissioning reactors is way too high for the amount of use they get. People should also consider that unlike fossil fuels and renewable sources, we can't make anymore uranium. Once it's gone it's gone, and if our descandents find a very important use for it at some point in the future then they'll have to travel to another planet to get it.

[osymandus]

I think MArk Thomas replied to that wasnt about the type of impact (i.e straight on ) to the derailment which would have cuased teh spoillage (it is in a video some where on here)

[OldSmellyCrotch]

Murdering, lying, thieves. You've got to admire government for their balls or you've gotta bitch slap your neighbours for allowing it!

[moggym8ts]

mark as great as ever if only more people listend to his his wisdom!!!!!!!!

[CharlieBBoy12345]

£18m a year for press and PR!

This video was worth watching for that stat alone!

[wv05]

He's brilliantly funny, and his points are well delivered. And he's quite right about it being a shame how British Nuclear handled this. To be fair though, the main problem that BN face is that your average layman doesn't understand radiation or nuclear power. 45 meters and up wind.... well that means that they are actually pretty safe unless a there is a massive Gamma source... and there isn't! Ah well, still funny as hell.

[wv05]

I should add, before I get attacked over my omission, that if things are exploding or are in danger of exploding things are quite different and the evacuation are should be considerably larger. If nothing else, flying shrapnel is always a problem and it carrying radioactive dust is really not going to help.