man this is the same strategies i learn from masaaki hatsumi and anshu christa jacobson. theres nothing top secret here, nothing new under the sun. i also agree with whammer about the body mechanics i.e. taijutsu. they could've been better. now im gonna go train. peace
please put more american & british WWII combat moves - 1940s on youtube. - TOMMY REYNA (themovies) from rancho cuamonga, california, USA. please reply to this messege right now.
Nobody just drops to the ground like that! The german is nothing more than a human heavy bag. Some folks just don't want to see reality- they prefer to live in their fantasy world.
The video only shows just enough to describe the technique.
If needed, the gun arm can be held back and more chinjabs and knees used.
Showing the guy remaining standing while more moves are sued constantly would do nothing to improve understanding of the techniques. It's only fluff for the "reality based self defense" retards who worship Bill Wolfe.
You assume I'm ignorant on the subject of WW II combatives- I'm not. I've trained in them for 15+ years. I've also gained an international recognition for it as well- why? Well that still puzzles me.
Fun fact: In the "statistics and data" to this video, you can find a link to "Whammer's" forum, where he debates this video. Whammer/Walmsley argues that it's ridiculous because they don't show proper boxing body mechanics, which couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's just a technique video for troops who usually trained boxing.
"jeet kune do" forum now laughing at it, partly because "judo chops" "don't work".
You see, modern martial artists have decided from watching old movies that edge of hand blows are not powerful.
Sophisticated Close Quarter Urban Combatives(TM) systems use hammerfists instead of chops, because curling the fingers makes the strike at least 100 times more powerful, and it looks good to boot.
I've heard that "one" before. But it doesn't make sense. It's a training film. Would you do a training film on boxing that didn't show proper technique? How hard is it to demonstrate body mechanics? It wouldn't have used any more film or taken any longer.
The video is ridiculous!! Using shit like that is going to get you killed. It's got nothing to do with boxing mechanics you moron, it's got to with how unrealistic these defenses are!
Of course it won't work. In fact no disarm sequence on any video will work because criminals don't all attack in the exact same way from the same angle. I uploaded this because it demonstrates the distract-offline/parry - attack methodology. In any real situation you'll have to improvise with basic principles and skill, not imitate movements from a video or class.
As to the body mechanics for the system in this video, boxing, kickboxing and almost anything else are similar. Feet apart, knees bent, legs and hip torque powering the blows, unless they're choppy edge-hand blows they used to do at close range. Regardless of style, that's really all there is to it, plunging your body into the guy's weakest points, hands, feet, knees and elbows first.
The disarm sequences for rifles and pistols I've seen to be effective. There's only so many ways someone can point a gun at you, and in any case the techniques will be effective.
Of course that why it best to spar empty handed with someone with a wooden knife or a spoon or something and don't pratice moves instede just try to beat em without getting cut me and my brom always do this and i am bear handed and he have a wooden knife i kill him about 20% of the time and he 79% of course that last 1% it a tie.
It depends on what "training" you are talking about. Many techniques were taught not because they were realistic but because they help to instill fighting confidence, or hope, into the soldier.
If you don't like the methods shown in this video, which were devised because they work better than wristlocking disarms, then go find some Steven Seagal clips.
Well obviously you don't know who I am. But I'm very familar with Fairbairn and Applegate and have trained in their methods for 15+ years. But you can't use them as shown in this video- it's not realistic at all.
But what if a man attacks you with a pointed stick?
44magnum3333 2 months ago
Now, how to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana!
44magnum3333 2 months ago
man, i love the chin gap
Painful and fatal
zhetya 1 year ago
if it were only that simple !!
seminar6 1 year ago
This system works great!
35delta1 2 years ago
man this is the same strategies i learn from masaaki hatsumi and anshu christa jacobson. theres nothing top secret here, nothing new under the sun. i also agree with whammer about the body mechanics i.e. taijutsu. they could've been better. now im gonna go train. peace
SandayuRyu 3 years ago
masaaki hatsumi "installs" these techiques into his students over the YEARS.
These men had only two-three weeks to learn and than it was of...to the butchering of WW2.
To the frontline! That is the diference. Great video!
w4a8n1n1abe 3 years ago
Legendary video! Great WWII Combatives.
Samoobramba 3 years ago
please put more american & british WWII combat moves - 1940s on youtube. - TOMMY REYNA (themovies) from rancho cuamonga, california, USA. please reply to this messege right now.
themovies 3 years ago
Nobody just drops to the ground like that! The german is nothing more than a human heavy bag. Some folks just don't want to see reality- they prefer to live in their fantasy world.
Enjoy!
Whammer79 4 years ago
"Nobody just drops to the ground like that!"
The video only shows just enough to describe the technique.
If needed, the gun arm can be held back and more chinjabs and knees used.
Showing the guy remaining standing while more moves are sued constantly would do nothing to improve understanding of the techniques. It's only fluff for the "reality based self defense" retards who worship Bill Wolfe.
Defendu 4 years ago
The training film that this clip comes from is a breakdown of unarmed combat methods taught at Aldershot during WWII.
It's made up entirely of strikes, takedowns, and parries, with no attempt made to show an actual fight, footwork, or how to train.
It's a technique demonstration designed to accompany actual real life instruction.
As I've already said, if you want flashy fight scenes, go watch Steven Seagal movies.
Defendu 4 years ago
You assume I'm ignorant on the subject of WW II combatives- I'm not. I've trained in them for 15+ years. I've also gained an international recognition for it as well- why? Well that still puzzles me.
Whammer79 4 years ago
Well I won't argue about your Wolfe comment- I agree.
As for the rest, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Whammer79 4 years ago
Fun fact: In the "statistics and data" to this video, you can find a link to "Whammer's" forum, where he debates this video. Whammer/Walmsley argues that it's ridiculous because they don't show proper boxing body mechanics, which couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's just a technique video for troops who usually trained boxing.
Defendu 3 years ago
In addition, there's a whole
"jeet kune do" forum now laughing at it, partly because "judo chops" "don't work".
You see, modern martial artists have decided from watching old movies that edge of hand blows are not powerful.
Sophisticated Close Quarter Urban Combatives(TM) systems use hammerfists instead of chops, because curling the fingers makes the strike at least 100 times more powerful, and it looks good to boot.
Defendu 3 years ago
Well I'm not an expert but i floored a guy once using a few knife hand's to the side of the neck .
bunburyZ 3 years ago
I've heard that "one" before. But it doesn't make sense. It's a training film. Would you do a training film on boxing that didn't show proper technique? How hard is it to demonstrate body mechanics? It wouldn't have used any more film or taken any longer.
But believe what you want.
Whammer79 3 years ago
The video is ridiculous!! Using shit like that is going to get you killed. It's got nothing to do with boxing mechanics you moron, it's got to with how unrealistic these defenses are!
Whammer79 2 years ago
Of course it won't work. In fact no disarm sequence on any video will work because criminals don't all attack in the exact same way from the same angle. I uploaded this because it demonstrates the distract-offline/parry - attack methodology. In any real situation you'll have to improvise with basic principles and skill, not imitate movements from a video or class.
Defendu 2 years ago
As to the body mechanics for the system in this video, boxing, kickboxing and almost anything else are similar. Feet apart, knees bent, legs and hip torque powering the blows, unless they're choppy edge-hand blows they used to do at close range. Regardless of style, that's really all there is to it, plunging your body into the guy's weakest points, hands, feet, knees and elbows first.
Defendu 2 years ago
Thats Fairbairn talk alright!
A true legend of close combat!
MidnighWolf 2 years ago 2
@Defendu
The disarm sequences for rifles and pistols I've seen to be effective. There's only so many ways someone can point a gun at you, and in any case the techniques will be effective.
TrollSturm 1 year ago
@Defendu
Of course that why it best to spar empty handed with someone with a wooden knife or a spoon or something and don't pratice moves instede just try to beat em without getting cut me and my brom always do this and i am bear handed and he have a wooden knife i kill him about 20% of the time and he 79% of course that last 1% it a tie.
id493337 1 year ago
@Whammer79 So you're saying that army training is going to get you killed, and is "unrealistic"?
TheLoonwolf 1 year ago
@TheLoonwolf
It depends on what "training" you are talking about. Many techniques were taught not because they were realistic but because they help to instill fighting confidence, or hope, into the soldier.
Whammer79 1 year ago
@TheLoonwolf
Don't listen to him. He's full of shit.
TrollSturm 1 year ago
When you see this stuff today you realize how laughable and unrealistic it all is.
Whammer79 4 years ago
What? Is it not complicated enough?
If you don't like the methods shown in this video, which were devised because they work better than wristlocking disarms, then go find some Steven Seagal clips.
Defendu 4 years ago
Locking: Assumes you can catch an opponent's wrist and manipulate it.
Doesn't work so well with mitts on.
Fails if your opponent slashes your tendons as you go for the arm.
Parry, close in, chinjab, headstomp: Works regardless of clothing, and utilizes the full length of the forearm and hand edge.
Adopted by such WWII era instructors as E.A. Sykes and Rex Applegate.
Drawbacks: Is practiced by old British guys in pith helmets, and aging Shanghai cops.
Defendu 4 years ago
Well obviously you don't know who I am. But I'm very familar with Fairbairn and Applegate and have trained in their methods for 15+ years. But you can't use them as shown in this video- it's not realistic at all.
Whammer79 4 years ago
"But you can't use them as shown in this video"
Well that's a very convincing explanation of why this won't work.
I will hereby concede the point and ignore that the 1976 edition of Kill or Get Killed shows the same parry/chinjab method in this video.
Defendu 4 years ago