If you don't like it, you don't like it, nothing says you have to revere everything in jazz. In fact, the more varied opinions there are about the music, the more provacative and important it probably is. But if you're checking out ballads, I recommend Central Park West on 'From the Soul', 'This is Always' from his 'Universal Language' album and 'Ghost of a Chance' from his Trio Fascination Album. All are real nice interpretations I feel.
Brecker, Liebman... geniuses Then there's Joe Lovano. Out of tune, fluffy (not fuzzy) tone, no sound, disjointed phrasing, weird time, lack of clear intent, or direction, no highlight, no climax, no sense of the beautiful, no sense of 'outside', inside, or anywhere, no harmony, (Em over Ebm in the intro??) -no discernible jazz language. It's not even his own language, he has none. This guy plays chinese. What's the point technique if you can't make something beautiful?
Have you heard "Tenor Legacy" or "From the Soul" or the recordings he's done with Paul Motian and Bill Frisell? Some great stuff in there. He's one of the most respected players in NY. Doesn't mean you have to like him, but he has a great understanding of the language and tunes. The thing I like best about Lovano is his solos don't sound like a math test. They're unpredictable and organic, two of the qualities I like best about jazz.
No, I haven't heard those records. Maybe I need to listen to more Joe Lovano. Or maybe less, I fear that will just confirm for me how ugly it is. As for "solos don't sound like a math test. They're unpredictable" you got that right. As for organic, his solos are the farthest I can think of from that quality. If chaos can be organized, then I guess they are organic. To qualify there, he needs a little more time to organize his solos. As George W. said: "It will take time to restore chaos".
Actually, I'm gonna torture myself and try to listen to those records. I have streaming media. I'll try to be open-minded and open-eared. I guess I'll need ear plugs and a
prodigious helping of cotton wool, but I'll get back to you before the gavel of my Supreme Court jazz decision comes down. I know...who the ***k am I?
@buntus00 I think that you are better than him...all the things you´ve said are shit, when you talk about improvisation, none of the rules jazz school post are important, I think today everybody plays like Lieb or Brecker, what is the problem with Lovano? I don´t know, you are saying that he makes mistakes, but, you are not hearing what he plays...this is not about mistakes, or harmony, or what scale you´ve to play in a chord, this is about colours, and this guy has lots of them...
I think jazz is about developing a beautiful soul for music, then expressing that. Some people have that, whether famous, infamous or unknown, at a high level, or low level. Lovano has a high level of knowledge, but it's not all about scales, and what works theoretically. You have to have a CLEAR language, which expresses exactly what you want to say, and if the improv is based on a standard melody, should embellish and make it beautiful. If your forte is 'free' jazz, then chaos works.
Emin over Ebmin is something everyone does from coltrane to brecker...
And no ever gave a damn when Trane played out of tune and made mistakes right? Or Shorter missing a note and playing out of tune? So why would it matter for lovano?
I dig that velvety bottom stuff. But I like lots of things - screaming high harmonics - all of it. I've marveled at Coltrane and been lifted out of my chair by Junior Walker. It's all good for me. Tenor sax - what a great axe!
Wonderful interpretation by Joe Levano. I would compare this version to Lester Young and John Coltrane's.
Also, the B&W video is gives a nice art feel and is exceptional along with the sound production. Without the high quality production, Joe's sound would never be heard as it sounded at the club.
the very last two notes in my opinion where not necessary, asi if he just wanted to put more into the song. amazing interpretation though, i only thought those two last notes where funky.
The man has a great SOUND. Very impressive live. He can really fill a hall. Maybe just has a great soundman, but I was impressed when I saw him. Definitely at the top of his game
There's a difference between being able to play a line and play a phrase. Joe plays beautiful phrases. Brecker is the yawner playing sterile lines. Learn the difference and you might begin to understand music.
I feel the same. I try so hard to understand Joe's success but compared to Bergonzi, Brecker, Grossman evn Garzone I have trouble trying to figure it out
If you transcribe it and analyze it it will. Joe is a musicians musician. He's playing the melody the entire time. Really, it's ridiculous what he can do.
He's coming to my country New Zealand soon, and he's bringing John Schofield(sp?) with him! I can't wait, we don't often get to see such amazing US players down here.. Great video
Coleman really new how to play a melody and his harmonic phrasing is so soulful, just like Ben Webster! I think some sax players try too hard to better these guys when they cant and wont!
this is great. Whoo! My my. Man. This is the first time I have heard this guy ever in life...this is the first time I have ever heard from him however he is on point and he definitely has the gift.
beyond technical skill lies soul -- anyone who works hard enough can eventually achive the scales and read the notes --- but soul is ---- a gift --- that where Lavano lives
The new vandoren V16 mouthpieces are great! Im usually an "old is better" type guy (i mean i play on a MIV). but these provide a great platform for both a very vintage sound and even a balanced contemporary sound.
one way to totally destroy a beautiful tune.
BashuUp 3 months ago
@nicoleglover1 Yeah, one never knows what's in Joe's trick bag but it's always just right for the situation.
JazzVideoGuy 5 months ago
Super !
DeTergencja 5 months ago
Oh, he was playing Body and Soul...
I'll enjoy this
GimmeLife 7 months ago
phil markowitz is a boss
nunchuckification 8 months ago
Lovano that is BEAUTIFUL!!
diockk 11 months ago
@buntus00
If you don't like it, you don't like it, nothing says you have to revere everything in jazz. In fact, the more varied opinions there are about the music, the more provacative and important it probably is. But if you're checking out ballads, I recommend Central Park West on 'From the Soul', 'This is Always' from his 'Universal Language' album and 'Ghost of a Chance' from his Trio Fascination Album. All are real nice interpretations I feel.
joeywags 1 year ago
Brecker, Liebman... geniuses Then there's Joe Lovano. Out of tune, fluffy (not fuzzy) tone, no sound, disjointed phrasing, weird time, lack of clear intent, or direction, no highlight, no climax, no sense of the beautiful, no sense of 'outside', inside, or anywhere, no harmony, (Em over Ebm in the intro??) -no discernible jazz language. It's not even his own language, he has none. This guy plays chinese. What's the point technique if you can't make something beautiful?
This guy has no soul.
buntus00 1 year ago
@buntus00
Have you heard "Tenor Legacy" or "From the Soul" or the recordings he's done with Paul Motian and Bill Frisell? Some great stuff in there. He's one of the most respected players in NY. Doesn't mean you have to like him, but he has a great understanding of the language and tunes. The thing I like best about Lovano is his solos don't sound like a math test. They're unpredictable and organic, two of the qualities I like best about jazz.
joeywags 1 year ago
No, I haven't heard those records. Maybe I need to listen to more Joe Lovano. Or maybe less, I fear that will just confirm for me how ugly it is. As for "solos don't sound like a math test. They're unpredictable" you got that right. As for organic, his solos are the farthest I can think of from that quality. If chaos can be organized, then I guess they are organic. To qualify there, he needs a little more time to organize his solos. As George W. said: "It will take time to restore chaos".
buntus00 1 year ago
Actually, I'm gonna torture myself and try to listen to those records. I have streaming media. I'll try to be open-minded and open-eared. I guess I'll need ear plugs and a
prodigious helping of cotton wool, but I'll get back to you before the gavel of my Supreme Court jazz decision comes down. I know...who the ***k am I?
buntus00 1 year ago
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petrodrum 1 year ago
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petrodrum 1 year ago
@buntus00 this comment reminds me of what a wise man once said: "Remain silent and let them think you're a fool OR speak and remove all doubt."
petrodrum 1 year ago
...Well, I think you have just removed all doubt.
buntus00 1 year ago
@petrodrum Must rememder that quote classic!! and Buntus get some ears....
fluidjazz 1 year ago
@buntus00 I think that you are better than him...all the things you´ve said are shit, when you talk about improvisation, none of the rules jazz school post are important, I think today everybody plays like Lieb or Brecker, what is the problem with Lovano? I don´t know, you are saying that he makes mistakes, but, you are not hearing what he plays...this is not about mistakes, or harmony, or what scale you´ve to play in a chord, this is about colours, and this guy has lots of them...
pablosaxo 1 year ago
I think jazz is about developing a beautiful soul for music, then expressing that. Some people have that, whether famous, infamous or unknown, at a high level, or low level. Lovano has a high level of knowledge, but it's not all about scales, and what works theoretically. You have to have a CLEAR language, which expresses exactly what you want to say, and if the improv is based on a standard melody, should embellish and make it beautiful. If your forte is 'free' jazz, then chaos works.
buntus00 1 year ago
@buntus00 Lmao!!!!
Emin over Ebmin is something everyone does from coltrane to brecker...
And no ever gave a damn when Trane played out of tune and made mistakes right? Or Shorter missing a note and playing out of tune? So why would it matter for lovano?
ellatinorayo 11 months ago
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DenianArcoleo 7 months ago
amazing!!!!
qingpeng 1 year ago
I dig that velvety bottom stuff. But I like lots of things - screaming high harmonics - all of it. I've marveled at Coltrane and been lifted out of my chair by Junior Walker. It's all good for me. Tenor sax - what a great axe!
pyannaguy 1 year ago
the dude im studying with studied with phil markowitz. i'd never heard him until now. hes a badass.
unclejunglebass 2 years ago
JVG FTW
RobinsonWith 2 years ago
beautiful music
JazzySaxE 2 years ago
@JazzySaxE
yes
danilo9441 1 year ago
Amazing tenor...Rufus,I'm so glad you worked so hard to make the big time.You deserve it man.
kaunasprince 2 years ago
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decus69 2 years ago
glad to revisit this..........love his subtone playing
ModernSaxDotCom 3 years ago
Wonderful interpretation by Joe Levano. I would compare this version to Lester Young and John Coltrane's.
Also, the B&W video is gives a nice art feel and is exceptional along with the sound production. Without the high quality production, Joe's sound would never be heard as it sounded at the club.
Cheers,
Joe
joetighe 3 years ago
the very last two notes in my opinion where not necessary, asi if he just wanted to put more into the song. amazing interpretation though, i only thought those two last notes where funky.
tommysacha2 3 years ago
its a very low 5th, and a 9th with that beautiful slow vibrato, maybe he is quoting some famous old sax player like Coleman Hawkins ,or Ben Webster
valvetrom 2 years ago
obviously you don't understand about ending on colour notes
chronzie99 2 years ago
why dont you just shut up
tommysacha2 2 years ago
The man has a great SOUND. Very impressive live. He can really fill a hall. Maybe just has a great soundman, but I was impressed when I saw him. Definitely at the top of his game
reddwarf1980 3 years ago
I love him!!
meowminx 3 years ago
WOW. just a beautiful sound and approach to a classic song....
ModernSaxDotCom 3 years ago
There's a difference between being able to play a line and play a phrase. Joe plays beautiful phrases. Brecker is the yawner playing sterile lines. Learn the difference and you might begin to understand music.
joeylittle 3 years ago
I feel the same. I try so hard to understand Joe's success but compared to Bergonzi, Brecker, Grossman evn Garzone I have trouble trying to figure it out
Anyways Best always
Braveheart 14
RMcGO28716 3 years ago
I"m very sorry, does nothing for me.
saxoclar 3 years ago
One man's Albert Ayler is another's Kenny G.
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago 19
haha nice.
SelmersRule 3 years ago
ha ha nice one
skullamus 2 years ago
@JazzVideoGuy Amen to that.
vandoren59 1 year ago
If you transcribe it and analyze it it will. Joe is a musicians musician. He's playing the melody the entire time. Really, it's ridiculous what he can do.
Saxyman14 3 years ago
keep listening. his playing did nothing for me for a while until suddenly i was like "i dig this."
drifteromega 2 years ago
@saxoclar I agree with you!!!! Lovano does nothing for me either.
JazzPoetic65 1 year ago
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@saxoclar Yes, you are sorry. I'm sorry for you, as well.
dangerbooboo 4 months ago
He's coming to my country New Zealand soon, and he's bringing John Schofield(sp?) with him! I can't wait, we don't often get to see such amazing US players down here.. Great video
joebandana 3 years ago
beautiful playing...not pretentious,just really fine tenor.How refreshing.
olivierbarjot 3 years ago
Coleman really new how to play a melody and his harmonic phrasing is so soulful, just like Ben Webster! I think some sax players try too hard to better these guys when they cant and wont!
EgyptianWarPharaoh 3 years ago 5
Is it a Borgani sax with anothe cheever?
topolinik 3 years ago
I looked at that café and thought, hey.. that's Birdland! Hell yeah, I was there in 2005... what a perfect little place in Manhattan!
gulikersj 3 years ago 2
What exactly does this comment tell us about the performance we are looking at, apart from informing us that you have visited the venue ?
erdekes11 3 years ago
that I like the fact that I found this video on youtube.. was just a moment of nostalgy, is it wrong to comment something like that?
If so I'm sorry and I'll never do it again... oh no, I'm sorry again, because I comment whatever I want, wether it suits you or not...
gulikersj 3 years ago
this is great. Whoo! My my. Man. This is the first time I have heard this guy ever in life...this is the first time I have ever heard from him however he is on point and he definitely has the gift.
bigkeithtwentyfive 3 years ago
Joe Lovano performs at Pori Jazz festival this summer.
stratocasterfinland 3 years ago
great pianist too
05rsx 4 years ago
the comment before mine said a million things , joe lovano you are my favourite player...
napkinholder7143 4 years ago
beyond technical skill lies soul -- anyone who works hard enough can eventually achive the scales and read the notes --- but soul is ---- a gift --- that where Lavano lives
esspingarda 4 years ago 11
He da man, for sure.
jazzflutist 4 years ago
joe is sooooooooo bad
sysphus13 4 years ago 2
The black and white video makes it look like hes playing one of the Grafton plastic saxophones. But an AMAZING! video
Vinny1130 4 years ago
Wow. This guy has it all happening.
jazzflutist 4 years ago
Another rendition (Idon't know if it has been ever recorded) which a knockout, was by Gerry Neiwood. Another master! NJ Jazz#1
padleynj 4 years ago
What incredible chops, infinite nuance, sweet sophistication....Joe's depth and mastery amaze me.
Dajida 4 years ago
a master of the jazz ballard
DeFraz247 4 years ago
Great Great Music...
laurenfrehel 4 years ago
Amen to Rufus. Check out his new live recording "The kennedy Center" with his new quintet.
frankpearce 4 years ago
wuts a good metal mouthpiece for alto? and wuts a good hard rubber or ebonite mouthpiece for alto?
McMingDynasty 4 years ago
Check out Jody Jazz HR.
someguy1000 4 years ago
Meyer bros. NY. Not a new one. those are bad. Vintage, NY Meyer. if its less than 300 bucks, its not the real thing, haha
Saxyman14 4 years ago
The new vandoren V16 mouthpieces are great! Im usually an "old is better" type guy (i mean i play on a MIV). but these provide a great platform for both a very vintage sound and even a balanced contemporary sound.
jumpsteady1 4 years ago
ralph morgan(rip) jazz large chamber
missionimprovisation 2 years ago
Mr.Lovanoe,,,,just love your aproach and tone,,,so beautifullllllll!!Your signature is in your sound!
Mario,from Canada
Saxobari 5 years ago
joe has the most beautiful tone, and expressive way of interpreting ballads. No one uses their technique to a musical advantage like joe lovano...
derricksax 5 years ago
Billy Hart is one of my all time favorites.
trane100 5 years ago
phil markowitz....play with chet baker...greats music
gervasi05 5 years ago
rufus seriously has the best tone in the jazz bass world. every bassist should listen to him.
Mikelarkenson2 5 years ago
Rufus is a motherfucker. Nice guy too. I heard he defeated a puma with bare fisticuffs.
Fretlessness 5 years ago
hah, puma eh? Id believe it
jumpsteady1 4 years ago
Thanks for the smile. Your comment made my day.
someguy1000 4 years ago