@TheRafaelBond Stats do not define a great perimeter defender. Kobe is more clutch than LeBron, proof was in the pudding in last season's finals with LeBron not showing up in the 4th quarter. It's not all about statistics. I'm guessing you're just a highlight band wagon watcher and do not know what truly makes a great basketball player.
@NickEagles24 : well i guess you can say the same about kobe not being clutch. proof was in the pudding in 06 when his team was up 3 -1 & lost the series & in game 7 only scored 1pt in the 2nd half or last yr vs mavs in game 4(elimination game) 2 pts in the 2nd half...so kobe doesn't show up for the entire 2nd half.
@TheRafaelBond There's nothing I can do. Lechoke fans will always be lechoke fans. They won't accept that kobe is better. Even Eric Snow(former lechoke teammate) said that Kobe is better. A high basketball IQ man would not say that Lebron is better.
im done with you....its too stupid,lebron is better in everything,REALLY,
OUTSIDE SHOOTER,CLUTCH,DEFENSE,SP%,ASSISTS,REBOUNDS,BLOCKS,STEALS,TEAMPLAYER,LEADER, EVERYTHING! :) you probably dont believe that lebron is more clutch...well do you want the stats in ya face for that?? :) + he is getting lots of triple doubles,hes coplete,not sjotjacking,or being a ballhog. defense can give you those stats aswell :) CAREER WIDE!!
@TheRafaelBond Enough, You're riding lebron's dick in any other video. Can't accept the fact that Lebron wouldn't be in the line of the greatest of all time? I'm done with you too. If you will reply it means you're sucking lechoke's dick right now
People lets not forget, LeBron James is 6 foot 9 inches, 250 pounds. Kobe is 6 foot 6 inches, 205 pounds. LeBron is stronger, taller, more athletic, younger than Kobe. This is an unfair comparison because LeBron can do many things that Kobe cant because of his PHYSICAL attributes. This is why you cant compare LBJ to guards because he will always be physically superior to them. That said, LBJ should be far better stats wise because he has more options due to his physical abilities.
@ProMrasic thank you for clarifying that lebron james is better! and yes, stat wise lebron is better statistically....like he should be as you were saying
I'm a die hard honest Heat fan and Kobe-hater but I have to admit the truth even though it kills me inside. Kobe is a superior basketball player to LeBron. And I love LeBron.
@bim2x4 I love LBJ too bro... how he led CAVS to 2 season best season record ALONE(lone superstar) ...Kobe is just in a different level... your a good fan... honest too
@EddyJ415 he led the cavs to the best season record alone because you fail to realize that is how the cavs core makeup offensively is structured. Every possession goes through lebron where the other players are just missing pieces needed to excel in Lebron's game. Even though the cavs players aren't known name wise in popularity, they're essential in bringing out Lebron's game and to bring in wins (which is obvious since they had the best records 2 yrs in a row). Even though their team isn't
@EddyJ415 big in names, they are the perfect team in that regard since they bring W's. The cavs play on Lebron's athleticism since he is a fucking beast where his engine never runs out so he is the core to the team (which is evident since when he left, the cavs had the worst record) but he didn't in no way do it alone...
@AlphaMale505 Your fucking retarded. Kobe Bryant is the CLOSEST thing to Michael Jordan. When Kobe was Lebrons age, he averaged:
35.4 PPG
5.0 APG
5.5 RPG
Lebron hasn't even come close to that. Also Kobe had a streak of 4 straight 50+ point games and he had a 63 point game where he outscored the dallas mavericks WHOLE TEAM by the 3rd quarter. He also put up 42 points in 1 half against Michael Jordan and he scored 81 points in a game.
Kobe is GREATER than Lebrick get the fuck out of here kid.
@MW2Addiction NONE BASKETBALL KNOWING BITCH YOU DONT KNOW SHIT! ALL THAT YOU JUST MENTION IS MORE DOMINIQUE WILKINS THAN MICHEAL JORDAN. STFU AND LEARN SOMETHING!! HAS KOBE EVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES WHEN HIS TEAM WASNT FAVORED? HAS KOBE EVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES WITH OUT SHAQ OR PAU? WHY DOES EVERY YEAR A KOBE LEAD TEAM IMPLODES WITH LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND CHEMISTRY? WHY IS IT PAU LAMAR AND BYNUM ALL 3 TOP 35 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE CONSIDERED TO BE UNDER ACHIEVERS?
@MW2Addiction ODOM NEVER MAKING AN ALLSTAR GAME? EVER? BUT MO WILLIAMS HAS? A TRAVESTY! EVERY PLAYER JORDAN HAS EVER PLAYED WITH GOT THE BIGGEST CONTRACT OF THEIR CAREER PLAYING WITH MIKE! PIPPEN / KERR / BUECHLER / LONGLEY/ SCOTT WILLIAMS / GRANT / KUKOC / ARMSTRONG / ASK ANY OF THE TEAMS IF THEY GOT THE PLAYER THEY WERE EXPECTING? THOSE PLAYERS WERE OVERVALUED AFTER PLAYING WITH MIKE! KUKOC WAS TO BE ATL' BUILDING BLOCK. LOL!! IVERSON'S #2 LOL!! PIPPEN LEAD HOUSTON BACK TO THE FINALS. LOL!!!
@MW2Addiction LBJ OR LEBRICK AS YOU CALL HIM? ..WHEN KOBE WAS HIS AGE? LOL!! LBJ NUMBERS ARE STILL BETTER MORON!! 35 5 5 / 27 7 7 .. WANNA ADD BLOCKS AND STEALS FG% FT ATTEMPS 3 PT% TO THAT TOO? NOW LOOK AT MO WILLIAMS MADE AN ALLSTAR GAME GETS 9 MIL A YEAR. REALLY? WHAT A JOKE NOW ON THE BENCH PLAYS BEHIND FOYE!! VARAJAO 7 PTS 7 REBS CANT BLOCK A SHOT TO SAVE HIS LIFE 7 MIL A YEAR? LEAVE LAND TRYING TO TRADE HIM NO TAKERS? WHY? THATS ALL LBJ!!
@MW2Addiction WHEN KOBE HE WAS LBJ'S AGE? LOL!! WHO WAS BETTER AT 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26? THE LEAGUE KEEPS STATS FOR A REASON!! ROOKIE OF THE YEAR / 2 X MVP .. WHEN LBJ HAD AN INFERIOR TEAMS HE WAS LEADING HIS TEAMS TO UPSETS IN THE PLAYOFFS AT THE AGE HE SHOULD OF BEEN IN COLLEGE!! WHEN KOBE HAS A INFERIOR TEAM HE CANT GET OUT THE FIRST ROUND DEMANDS A TRADE! WHY THATS SO MJ LIKE HUH?
@MW2Addiction YOUR GOING TO SAY THAT WELL THE WEST WAS TOUGHER THAN THE EAST ILL GIVE YOU THAT. BUT NO 50 WINS? KOBE AND ODOM AND NO 50 WINS? PAU AND THE FUCKIN MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES DID IN THAT SAME WEST! CHRIS PAUL AND WEST DID AND THAT SAME WEST! KOBE GETS SHAQ TRADED PHIL TO QUIT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PROVE HES AS GOOD AS JORDAN" SYAS FUCK THE TRIANGLE WANTS TO BE IVERSON GETS EVERYTHING HE WANTED SCORE 81 AGAINST toronto THE LOTTERY WINNER! LOL! CANT GET OUT THE 1ST RUND IN HIS PRIME? PRIME!!!!
@MyCockIsNotForYou First of all I wasn't talking to you. Second of all wtf is your problem with me? I cant talk about Kobe cause that makes me automatically a Kobe dick rider? Are you fucking stupid kid? Who the fuck are you to begin with...?
@MyCockIsNotForYou Speechless? Lol I posted something 2 days ago and you just responded to that 12 minutes ago. If anyone here is speechless it's you.
@MW2Addiction Cuz i havent checked my comments until now...and to respond to your other comment, if Lebron wins 2 Finals MVPs and keeps playing at an elite level for years, he will be greater than Kobe IMO...so its not like he will never be as great as kobe like u said
@bim2x4 : well im a die hard Bulls fan & don't care about either guy...in 07 when kobe wanted to join the Bulls i was hoping he wouldn't join & last year there was talk of lebron joining & i also didn't want him either...that said i would much rather pick lebron over kobe
@bim2x4 if the only thing stopping him is rings, than he still has time to prove you wrong because we all know thats the difference at this moment, he is statistically better in so many ways it's all about them championships, so is he really better?
hahahaahaha no way youre a lebron fan!! ROFL fukin faker piss off.....really??? dumbest shit i just heard....cmon! how is he better? in what area? i mean,i still dont get why kobe n laker fans think kobe is better,but their his fans,you?? fake
@TheRafaelBond how is kobe better? better shooter, better leader, better defender, better in the clutch, more finesse, unlike LeBron's bowling ball move. Kobe is the complete package, LeQuack is not.
(CONT'D) my point is all evry1 talks about his kobes rings, how clutch he is, and how he has done it on his own. you cant tell me gasol and kobe with either bynum or artest was never a big 3? ppl who say that are plain ignorant. who cares about rings?? one team wins it every year. sry that kobe has gotten to play w a stud dominant post evry yr! give lebron and the cavs gasol and they demolish the league in yrs past. and the cluch i proved below. kobe was not any more clutch than lebron is now!
@McSpank21 The POINT about Kobe being clutch isn't whether he hits every game winning shot. The point is he never shys away from it. He never gets nervous or worried what the media will say if he misses. He comes to play and WIN. The difference in the two is clear, Lebron wants to be known as a winner for the fame and money. Kobe wants to be the best every night for the sake of being the best!! Lebron played with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh name teammates better than that outside Shaq for Kobe...
@joshuamj04 And as far as playing with a "dominant" post player. Gasol is far from dominant, he's soft as tissue. The man had a 8point 9reb game in the finals and played small in the 08 finals. Shaq was dominant but Kobe more than held his own winning those first 3 rings. Lebron STATISTICALLY had the best team 2 years running record wise and still didn't get to the finals,and the teams that put him out, lost to Kobe's Lakers... Just a few "fun facts" for you right there lol.
@joshuamj04 okay go look at gasol stats b4 he came to la. now look at his stats each season with la. ur insane to say gasol was not dominant. idk if he has it now but he def was dominant. he has never averaged less than 18 pts a game w the lakers and posted 2 double double years. how does that pass ur brain?? and kobe got them the rings??!! shaq posted 30&15, 30&15,and 28&12 for the playoffs those years, during season he was virtually identical.Who won all 3 finals mvp awards? SHAQ
@McSpank21 You think 18pts is dominant?? 2 dbl dbl yrs of 4? He was never able to consistantly score as far as give the ball to him and let him win the game. Kobe only needed somebody who could catch the ball and finish around the basket CONSISTANTLY as a big, check the 08 season before Bynum went down to injury see how he did without Gasol. Bynum is hardly dominant he avg about 11pt 10reb. They could have won with Kwame Brown if he could catch and finish without fumbling the ball on passes.
@joshuamj04 (cont'd) kobe aint doin shit without a big man point blank. jus like lebron couldnt do it in cleveland without one. idc about who lebron lost to and kobe beat. lebron just wouldn't lose to kobe. just like he doesn't lose to kobe as it is. kobe always loses to lebron. all kobe has is the titles. and that will soon be wiped away
@McSpank21 Dominant would be 20+pts and 12-20rb and game yearly. Paul for a 7ftr is a bad rebounder and got pushed around by the Celtics in the 08' finals and came up with a 8pt game and a 10pt game in the Finals of 10' thats not dominant at all. As far as Lebron winning over Kobe. You got that one, BUT I doubt seriously he would have lost to Lebron in the finals!! Especially not those two years when the Cavs had the BEST record in the league! The Heat team could be a different story with Wade.
@joshuamj04 okay so let me prove you wrong again,,,,ready?? pau was 11th in scoring of all big men(Power forward/Center) in 2010-2011.. He was 10th in 2009-2010. 9th in 2008-2009. and 9th in 2007-2008. you already know he was top 10 in rebounds all of those years besides 07-08. one of the years he was 5th in rebounds. point being the guy was one of the top 10 big men in the league(im giving some leway on this one cuz he was top 6 or 7 no doubt). yet your going to bust his ass and
@joshuamj04 (continued) claim he wasn't dominant so that you can give all the credit to kobe? you sound stupid! only 1...maybe 2 guys evry year have 20+pts and 12+reb as their avg each year. yes he is not shaq....but he was at the top of all big men those years. still trying to say kobe didn't have help? dont forget lamar odom and bynum are big men(power forward/centers) too so you don't have an argument that kobe does it himself without big men. its always kobe and a big man.
@joshuamj04 (continued) quit postin what you're postin without lookin up real facts such as stats to hold down your argument. your finger happy bro. and im sorry but kobe will never make another final so keep talkin about how he would beat lebron in the finals because lebron will be there again but kobe won't. lebron lost there last year...but he was there. where was kobe? and try 13, 14 , 15 and 11 in order of pts/game for bynum since 07-08. and 10, 8, 8, 9 for reb/game
@joshuamj04 (continued) and what do you mean bad rebounder for a 7 footer? hell every post is damn near a 7 footer (6ft. 10 & up with a FEW....I said a FEW! under that) so being top 10 in rebounding every year doesn't sound like a bad rebounder. REBOUNDS ARE REBOUNDS!! LMAO. PLEASE STAY OFF ALL YOUTUBE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BASKETBALL.....BECAUSE YOUR LACK OF BASKETBALL KNOWLEDGE & BIASED OPINIONS ARE NOT WANTED HERE!!!!
@joshuamj04 (continued) I can't stop....im finger happy now! shit must be contagious! but atleast i know some facts so you can take my word for it. I had to go and figure out where pau gasol ranked with his numbers because you didn't have a clue that for a post (again that would be a power forward or center) his numbers are/were legit.what made you think that 18+ pts/game wouldn't be up there for a post in the nba?But I'm sure kobe made his stats with all the assists kobe dishes out?
@joshuamj04 (continued) add the fact(amazing...FACTS) that lamar odom career average for pts and reb. a game are 14 and 9. and that his years w the lakers his majority of his seasons he was a rebound per game away from a double double is just more proof that kobe needs big men/posts/tall guys.Pau gasols other 2 non double double years were a reb/game away as well. ALSO, Pau was .2, .3, .4 points per game away of ranking up in 4th,5th,6th place spots in scoring for a post all those years with LA.
@joshuamj04 Take a look at this website.and its proof! it goes from 2003 to february of 2009! kobe was number 4 in game winning shots on the list. an he had the most missed gw shots of any player. guess who's number 1?? LEBRON. Now i know it only goes to 2009 but kobe has not surpassed lebron in this stat. Proof is in the pudding, and playoffs are included. if u want just playoffs only, kobe and lebron both were tied at 4 of 8.
fun fact, kobe and carmello are number 1 and 2 in shot attempts per minutes played. This is a fact! google it, its from the 2010-2011 season. So we're talkin about the two ballhogs of the nba who get the most shots while on the court! do not try and compare stats of kobe to lebron!lebron steals evry stat category! lebron is better than kobe period. lebron has been clutch, quit saying he isn't! look at his gw shots through his career and compare to kobes first 7/8 years.
to tell the truth the only arguement is that kobe is more clutch but the truth is carmeol anthony yes carmelo has hit more game winners than kobe so does that make carmelo better than kobe. the other arguement is rings to me rings is a team thing one player can not win a ring everybody talkin bout kobe like he can win one buy himself. i'd pick lebron anyday
The real question is who do you want to be the best of this generation? LeBorn the man has an ego almost godly yet he there's nothing amazing about him. This is the man who leaves the city that made him, to go play with player who could finish his games for him. He can't handle the pressure, and he doesn't want it. The man has no personality, no pride. Who would want that as our generations NBA icon? How blind people are to true talent., this is story of my generation.
i really don't care for either guy ( i would if they played for my Bulls) but im more on the lebron side...i disagree with these "experts"..@ 1:10 -1:20 Zo is wrong, if you shut down the lane for lebron then he's going to find open teammates he doesn't need to force a shot....& i disagree with him @ 3:06, is he saying if you want to win a championship it's better to pick longley who has 3 over him who has 1 or pick kenny who has 2 over tim hardaway who has none?
@imsljr420 probably doesnt necessarily dictate uncertainty, but nice job using context clues to make an educated guess on what i meant...so when i say Lebron PROBABLY wont win a ring, im not at all unsure about that...im pretty darn certain lol
@kingjames27100 Do you know why Jordan is considered the greatest player of all time? Besides all of his accolades, its his performances when it matters most that made him who he was. When it really came down to it, he did whatever it took to win... which is why when he got to the Finals he never lost (6-0), Kobe is a close 2nd (5-1) and Lebron is even farther behind being (0-2). Kobe and Lebron will never pass Jordan, period.
@19Lio19 : right now lebron is better than kobe...career wise kobe's still better but i think lebron has a chance to surpass him...kobe didn't accomplish much so it shouldn't be too hard for lebron.
@19Lio19 : take away the 3 rings that shaq LED him to what does he have? 2 rings 2 finals MVP's & 1 league MVP....lebron already passed him in league MVP's & has a chance of LEADING the heat to the championship & getting finals MVP b4 that age....you could say wade is the leader of the team BUT if lebron puts up better performances in the finals than wade & gets finals MVP then it would be lebron leading them.
@imsljr420 oh please... you bringing up that "Shaq argument" shows me, that you just don't know anything about basketball... nobody wins championships on his own. Shaq and Kobe were a duo just like Kobe and Gasol or LeBron AND DWade! And League MVPs mean nothing. Kobe could have won more, but he is only concentrating on rings and not on individual awards like LeBron! LeBron needs to win AT LEAST 4 champonships before we can talk about him being better than Kobe! And i don't see that...
@19Lio19 : oh please....you posting this comment that "nobody wins championships on his own" shows that you lack comprehension skills....saying shaq LED him doesn't mean he won by himself it means that kobe wasn't even the best player when they 3peat he was a sidekick....league MVP's don't mean nothing cuz kobe couldn't win more than 1....& saying kobe concentrates on rings & lebron concentrates on individual awards shows that you don't know anything about basketball.
@mizal215 : your comment shows that im right and you just can't handle the truth...other wise you would give a legit argument not some little 5 year old response.
@imsljr420 You can make the argument about Kobe only winning 2 rings without Shaq, and his League MVP"s, but where you failed in your point was when you said LEbron has a chance of Leading the heat to a Championship or Championships. Lebron will NEVER win the Finals MVP as long as he is in Miami, if Wade and Bosh went to Cleveland, Lebron would be MVP. Its Dwayne's city, his team, and he is the only player with killer instinct on the Miami Heat team. Lebron will never get Finals MVP in Miami.
@UdouAkira1028 : if heat would've won & they gave lebron finals MVP i would be on here talking about how stupid the media is for kissing lebrons ass & that he didn't deserve it...but maybe next time they reach the finals lebron won't become lequit & disappear in the 4th
wasn't the 80's lakers, celtics & pistons magic,birds & thomas team? & who won finals MVP? worthy, maxwell & dumars...wasn't spurs duncans team? and who won finals MVP? parker.
@imsljr420 Lets come to a more recent time and a more similar example to this current situation. Kg and Ray Allen come to Boston, they both outplay Paul Pierce in the NBA Finals, and throughout the play offs. Who wins Finals MVP? Paul Pierce, because Boston is Pierce's town. Parker was drafted by San Antonio, and didnt just switch teams to win. Same goes for Worthy,Dumar, and Maxwell. They won Championships the teams that drafted them. Lebron jumped ships to win. He wont be Finals MVP, ever..
@imsljr420 And they didnt just win with the teams that drafted them, they outplayed stars like Thomas, Duncan,Magic and Bird, and because they were drafted by them, they had an equal right to the MVP. Miami is Wade's town, and Wade will win any and all FInals MVP awards that the Heat earn. If lebron wanted FInals MVP trophies he should have stayed in Cleveland.
@imsljr420 Nope. If Lebron put up better numbers in Cleveland with Wade and Bosh, then fuck yea. But no way he is winning Finals MVP over the man who almost single-handledly won Miami its first Championship in Franchise History.
@UdouAkira1028 : im not calling you or your comment stupid but if that happens then that would be wrong & stupid.....if that did happened which i feel it won't & you're one of these people that looks for petty little things to down play lebron would you at least admit that lebron got robbed? i mean maybe you're right maybe KG got robbed of the 08 finals MVP
@imsljr420 I dont understand your comment... when you say "If that did happen, which i feel it wont.." What are you referring to. To answer your other concern, i have nothing against Lebron. Lebron is one of the best/ the best player(s) in the league today, and will be one of the greatest in History. But you have to understand. If the Heat won a championship.. and Lebron got Finals MVP, Dwane Wade would get the one getting robbed, not Lebron. Dwayne = Miami, Lebron = Cleveland.
@UdouAkira1028 Now i understand what you meant, and no its not wrong or stupid, it makese sense. You're one of those people that ride Lebron a little bit too much. My Favorite player in the league is Ray Allen, and from the moment he went to the FInals, and went to Boston period... i knew he wasnt going to win Finals MVP ever in Boston. Its all about legacies man. Dwayne's Legacy is Miami, he brought that team its first Championship, and has been the teams Trademark since he was drafted.
@UdouAkira1028 : u might be right...maybe that's why kobe won finals MVP instead of pau....but i think the guy that plays the best in the finals should be the MVP...btw saying lebron didn't deserve mvp if they won means i ride him?
@imsljr420 Maybe i was wrong in my assumption, but the way you were talking earlier led me to believe so. And probably the way i was talking led you to believe that i was a Lebron hater. But back on subject, yes i agree with you somewhat. MVP's should be based on who plays the best. But MVP's are similar to popularity contest. Howard should have been league MVP, but people were riding D-Rose so he won it. In Miami, where Dwayne is king, i cant see Lebron getting FInals MVP there.
@UdouAkira1028 : well maybe this comment will make me seem like a "lebron dick rider" trust me im not, but i actually felt like lebron was the MVP 4 the fact that when he sat the opposing team would be right there in the game as soon as lebron would check back in the heat would pull away so his presence made a difference.
let me ask u this: if heat win the title & it's crystal clear that lbj was their best player would u admit that? would u say "even though wade got MVP lbj played better."
@imsljr420 Oh, of course i would admit it. That still wouldnt change the fact that Dwayne Wade will be the finals MVP> Lebron played better against Boston, and Chicago, and he was clearly the best player on his team during that time. But he will not win the finals MVP> he just wont. KG and Ray Ray played better, Pierce got mvp. Ron artest made the biggest difference for the Lakers 2010, Kobe still won. Its Wade's city, and its Wades MVP trophy, no matter what.
@imsljr420 Kobe without Shaq = 2 rings, 2 finals MVP....
Shaq without Kobe = 1 ring, 0 finals MVP.... ur statement is irrelevant... Kobe was the sidekick of the 3peat team from 00' to 02'.... but without him shaq wouldnt have won anything. Period.
Kobe is a good defender? Last i checked everytime he plays paul pierce, he gets killed, plays lebron gets abused, plays Mcgrady in his prime absolutely destroyed, I'm a Bucks fan, and John Salmons, michael Redd all go off on him, he is shit at defense.
@RoboVic1 Lol, you know thats a fucking popularity contest dont you? Kevin Durant said Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was the best defender in the league, and he didn't even come close to All-NBA, seriously Kobe cant guard shit watch a game.
@20yrsofgreatness look at any videos about kobes defense they will all say hes very good and wen da fuck does he get killed by paul pierce or lebron? did you even see the 2010 finals? YOU need to watch a game
@RoboVic1 Celtics got robbed of a title, Pierce owned the shit out of him overall. Pierce shot 44 percent in the series, with Artest (an actually good defender) on him switching from kobe to artest. Kobe shot 40 percent, with defense from Ray Allen and Pierce. Kobe not only cant defend, he can't outplay Pierce in the biggest stage. Again, All nba defense are popularity contests.
3 former players, one guy a 2 time champion all said Kobe Bryant is better, not only better, but the best in the league....case closed, it's never been a debate to begin with
Kobe had 61 and 3 assts in the Garden. LBJ had 50+ 11 boards and 9 assts.
Kobe had the better game, if you don't believe me ask yourself this question. MJ had 55 and 2 assists in the Garden, who had the better performance. LBJ or MJ ?
Compare Lebrons Rookie year to Kobes Rookie year LMAO Kobe was getting passed up by people like Stephan Marbury lmfao Not to mention Iverson a rookie with 50 point games
Kobe does have championship experience, it wasn't Phil going against the Celtics. Michael Jordan has championship experience or phil jackson? See how your argument is irrelevant now? ALL CHAMPS HAD A TEAM TO SUPPORT THEM YOU IDIOT. LeBron has a team, and HE STILL can't win. He had a team in Cleveland, they had the best record TWO YEARS IN A ROW. Show how much LeBron can lead a team.
kobe is a volume shooter. he shot jacks to get 30. he cant rebound like lebron, cant pass like lebron. lakers had to put a 90million dollar team around kobe just to win after shaq left. kobe screams like a bitch for fake fouls. kobe is 7-25 in clutch shots, lebron is 5-12. lol dirk is 5-13, tim duncan is 4-13. all these guys are better in the clutch than kobe. media is selling bullshit and the people are eating it like how a mexican eats a bowl of beans. lol 17-47,6-27,9-26, 6-24 in finals
@BMWM5gpower23 lebron 8 points in a game in the finals, disappeared in the 4th of the last 4 games of that series..... kobe bad shooting night in game 7 of 2010 finals, 5 for 26 I think but... not the bigger player, not a great rebounder... but still got15 BIG rebounds and score 10 points in the 4th... and that my friend is the difference.
@AdrianAquino22 you have to google "kobe is not clutch" and u well see how truly bad this guy is. kobe is 27 placed in the clutch but yet dumb fans say is the best closer? LMAO. Jackson also tells of marching, more than once, into Mitch Kupchak's office to demand that the Lakers trade Bryant. He writes things like:"Kobe tends to hold on to the ball longer than necessary causing the offense to stagnate.""He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid." etc. stats dont lie. OVERRATED
Kobe is better. If you compare a prime Kobe against a prime LBJ its really not all that close. Kobe is 2nd only to Jordan only because Jordan was more consistent from day 1 to the end of his career. Think about it, 81 points was sick. The scary part is if Kobe played 4th quarter against Dallas he would have had at least 2 70+ games and possibly 2 80+ or even a 90 point game.
@ryguy2 WTF?! LEBRON IS A CHOKE ARTIST! lebron is 0 for 2 man. He can't close shut out like Kobe can. If he can then he would have multiple. And dude. You're stupid. HALF THE PEOPLE I KNOW CHOSE THE HEAT. If lebron reaches Kobes age, he won't have his athleticism anymore which mean he has to be a jumpshooter which he can't be cuz his shooting fuckin sucks.
@gerrad86 3 things: One, he scored more points because he shot more. Dirk shot something like 42% for the series, LeBron shot 48%. Two, nobody picked Miami to win the East during the season, yet they were in the finals. Three, the reason they were in the finals was because of LeBron James. Period.
lol @ This even being a discussion. Kobe Bryant just got swept out of the playoffs by the DALLAS MAVERICKS with a more talented team than LeBron has ever had.
The points being made in this video are being refuted by Lebron every game. First, when they say Kobe is a better outside shooter: that's undoubtedly true. But Kobe is a shooting guard. Using their logic, I'll say Stephen Curry is better than a prime Shaq, since Curry is the better outside shooter.
Second, Kobe can impact the game on offense and defense. So can Lebron. They didn't talk about what Lebron can do defensively.
Third, Kobe can create his own shot. He can also miss a good percentage
how old is this video? lebron is by far the better player. kobe isnt clutch! he has 5 rings because of his teamates! he is a selfish and inefficient scorer! kobe is the most overrated/overhyped player in the leagues history! he's still a top 15 player all time but cmon guys dont be brainwashed by the god damn media!
@SparkABlunt420 you think he had 6 game winners last season? lol! kobe misses far more game winning shots than he makes but that's something people either forget or just don't want to hear because they are so desperate for kobe to be the next MJ. one look at the numbers contradicts everything the dumbass sports media has been shoving down our throats for years now but the kobe nut-riders are too busy bashing lebron to realise he's hugely overrated. ignorance is bliss i guess
@SparkABlunt420 have you been watching the playoffs???? lebron is a better closer than kobe and yes he's made a higher percentage of clutch shots but your too stupid and too far up kobes ass to see this.
@SparkABlunt420 DON'T LISTEN TO THE GOD DMAN SPORTS MEDIA! just because they say something, it doesnt make it true! espn has been saying kobe is "basketballs greatest closer" and "the cold blooded killer" for years now with absolutely no evidence to back it up! kobes made clutch shots have been memorable and pleasing to the eye so we(including the retarded espn)tend to remember them more than lebrons but people forget the huge amounts he missed. i can link u 2 articles that show this if u want
dude its Kobe dont make the compare hime to scalabrini
100sickness 5 days ago
scalabranie has that "championship experience"...would anyone pick him over someone like durant?
imsljr420 1 week ago
Let's put it this way, LeBron is the better scorer, gets the most assists and rebounds etc.
but when it matters and you want to win, kobe is the best.
LukeNintyFive 1 week ago
Lebron will be clutch he still got along ways to go his only 28 ( I think) and since Lebron is failing then that mean he will be succes
basketball24809 3 weeks ago
@TheRafaelBond Stats do not define a great perimeter defender. Kobe is more clutch than LeBron, proof was in the pudding in last season's finals with LeBron not showing up in the 4th quarter. It's not all about statistics. I'm guessing you're just a highlight band wagon watcher and do not know what truly makes a great basketball player.
NickEagles24 1 month ago
@NickEagles24 : well i guess you can say the same about kobe not being clutch. proof was in the pudding in 06 when his team was up 3 -1 & lost the series & in game 7 only scored 1pt in the 2nd half or last yr vs mavs in game 4(elimination game) 2 pts in the 2nd half...so kobe doesn't show up for the entire 2nd half.
imsljr420 2 weeks ago
what's the rest of kobe's number?
grubn22 1 month ago
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fkn shit commentators
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
fkn shit commentators
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
@TheRafaelBond They are not just commentators. They are former nba players. They have knowledge about basketball than you do so shut the fuck up!!
jjdudz23 1 month ago
@jjdudz23
they dont even put u facts you dumbass?!! lebron better teamplayer,defender,not cocky,actually there is nothing kobe is better in :)
dumb fuck
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
@TheRafaelBond There's nothing I can do. Lechoke fans will always be lechoke fans. They won't accept that kobe is better. Even Eric Snow(former lechoke teammate) said that Kobe is better. A high basketball IQ man would not say that Lebron is better.
jjdudz23 1 month ago
@jjdudz23 dont bother arguing with him, he's been posting dumb comments all over youtube for a long time, trust me its not worth it
superman1113215 1 month ago
@superman1113215 Yeah. I really hate that guy. I've seen his comment a lot on Kobe's video and always talking shit about Kobe.
jjdudz23 1 month ago
@jjdudz23
im done with you....its too stupid,lebron is better in everything,REALLY,
OUTSIDE SHOOTER,CLUTCH,DEFENSE,SP%,ASSISTS,REBOUNDS,BLOCKS,STEALS,TEAMPLAYER,LEADER, EVERYTHING! :) you probably dont believe that lebron is more clutch...well do you want the stats in ya face for that?? :) + he is getting lots of triple doubles,hes coplete,not sjotjacking,or being a ballhog. defense can give you those stats aswell :) CAREER WIDE!!
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
@TheRafaelBond Enough, You're riding lebron's dick in any other video. Can't accept the fact that Lebron wouldn't be in the line of the greatest of all time? I'm done with you too. If you will reply it means you're sucking lechoke's dick right now
jjdudz23 1 month ago
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@jjdudz23 hahahhaa dude i LOVE how you totally dont answer at all!! LOLZ :) dont have any arguments eh? ;)
I love how you posted facts and a great supportive statement to back up your argument. It really makes you sound more convincing.
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
@TheRafaelBond : lebron not cocky? um his stupid dancing during games?
imsljr420 2 weeks ago
@AlphaMale505 Using caps and acting like a child wont get you anywhere. It proves my point and reduces your credibility.
MW2Addiction 1 month ago
People lets not forget, LeBron James is 6 foot 9 inches, 250 pounds. Kobe is 6 foot 6 inches, 205 pounds. LeBron is stronger, taller, more athletic, younger than Kobe. This is an unfair comparison because LeBron can do many things that Kobe cant because of his PHYSICAL attributes. This is why you cant compare LBJ to guards because he will always be physically superior to them. That said, LBJ should be far better stats wise because he has more options due to his physical abilities.
ProMrasic 2 months ago
@ProMrasic thank you for clarifying that lebron james is better! and yes, stat wise lebron is better statistically....like he should be as you were saying
McSpank21 2 months ago
I'm a die hard honest Heat fan and Kobe-hater but I have to admit the truth even though it kills me inside. Kobe is a superior basketball player to LeBron. And I love LeBron.
He's not Kobe and never will be as great as Kobe.
bim2x4 2 months ago 31
@bim2x4 I love LBJ too bro... how he led CAVS to 2 season best season record ALONE(lone superstar) ...Kobe is just in a different level... your a good fan... honest too
EddyJ415 2 months ago 20
@EddyJ415 DIFFRENT LEVEL? LIKE PAU GASOL TEAMMATE LEVEL?
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@EddyJ415 he led the cavs to the best season record alone because you fail to realize that is how the cavs core makeup offensively is structured. Every possession goes through lebron where the other players are just missing pieces needed to excel in Lebron's game. Even though the cavs players aren't known name wise in popularity, they're essential in bringing out Lebron's game and to bring in wins (which is obvious since they had the best records 2 yrs in a row). Even though their team isn't
MrJtotheohnnn 1 month ago
@EddyJ415 big in names, they are the perfect team in that regard since they bring W's. The cavs play on Lebron's athleticism since he is a fucking beast where his engine never runs out so he is the core to the team (which is evident since when he left, the cavs had the worst record) but he didn't in no way do it alone...
MrJtotheohnnn 1 month ago
@bim2x4 thats a bull shit statemet kobe will never be as great as lebron
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@AlphaMale505 Your fucking retarded. Kobe Bryant is the CLOSEST thing to Michael Jordan. When Kobe was Lebrons age, he averaged:
35.4 PPG
5.0 APG
5.5 RPG
Lebron hasn't even come close to that. Also Kobe had a streak of 4 straight 50+ point games and he had a 63 point game where he outscored the dallas mavericks WHOLE TEAM by the 3rd quarter. He also put up 42 points in 1 half against Michael Jordan and he scored 81 points in a game.
Kobe is GREATER than Lebrick get the fuck out of here kid.
MW2Addiction 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction NONE BASKETBALL KNOWING BITCH YOU DONT KNOW SHIT! ALL THAT YOU JUST MENTION IS MORE DOMINIQUE WILKINS THAN MICHEAL JORDAN. STFU AND LEARN SOMETHING!! HAS KOBE EVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES WHEN HIS TEAM WASNT FAVORED? HAS KOBE EVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES WITH OUT SHAQ OR PAU? WHY DOES EVERY YEAR A KOBE LEAD TEAM IMPLODES WITH LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND CHEMISTRY? WHY IS IT PAU LAMAR AND BYNUM ALL 3 TOP 35 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE CONSIDERED TO BE UNDER ACHIEVERS?
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction ODOM NEVER MAKING AN ALLSTAR GAME? EVER? BUT MO WILLIAMS HAS? A TRAVESTY! EVERY PLAYER JORDAN HAS EVER PLAYED WITH GOT THE BIGGEST CONTRACT OF THEIR CAREER PLAYING WITH MIKE! PIPPEN / KERR / BUECHLER / LONGLEY/ SCOTT WILLIAMS / GRANT / KUKOC / ARMSTRONG / ASK ANY OF THE TEAMS IF THEY GOT THE PLAYER THEY WERE EXPECTING? THOSE PLAYERS WERE OVERVALUED AFTER PLAYING WITH MIKE! KUKOC WAS TO BE ATL' BUILDING BLOCK. LOL!! IVERSON'S #2 LOL!! PIPPEN LEAD HOUSTON BACK TO THE FINALS. LOL!!!
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction LBJ OR LEBRICK AS YOU CALL HIM? ..WHEN KOBE WAS HIS AGE? LOL!! LBJ NUMBERS ARE STILL BETTER MORON!! 35 5 5 / 27 7 7 .. WANNA ADD BLOCKS AND STEALS FG% FT ATTEMPS 3 PT% TO THAT TOO? NOW LOOK AT MO WILLIAMS MADE AN ALLSTAR GAME GETS 9 MIL A YEAR. REALLY? WHAT A JOKE NOW ON THE BENCH PLAYS BEHIND FOYE!! VARAJAO 7 PTS 7 REBS CANT BLOCK A SHOT TO SAVE HIS LIFE 7 MIL A YEAR? LEAVE LAND TRYING TO TRADE HIM NO TAKERS? WHY? THATS ALL LBJ!!
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction WHEN KOBE HE WAS LBJ'S AGE? LOL!! WHO WAS BETTER AT 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26? THE LEAGUE KEEPS STATS FOR A REASON!! ROOKIE OF THE YEAR / 2 X MVP .. WHEN LBJ HAD AN INFERIOR TEAMS HE WAS LEADING HIS TEAMS TO UPSETS IN THE PLAYOFFS AT THE AGE HE SHOULD OF BEEN IN COLLEGE!! WHEN KOBE HAS A INFERIOR TEAM HE CANT GET OUT THE FIRST ROUND DEMANDS A TRADE! WHY THATS SO MJ LIKE HUH?
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction YOUR GOING TO SAY THAT WELL THE WEST WAS TOUGHER THAN THE EAST ILL GIVE YOU THAT. BUT NO 50 WINS? KOBE AND ODOM AND NO 50 WINS? PAU AND THE FUCKIN MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES DID IN THAT SAME WEST! CHRIS PAUL AND WEST DID AND THAT SAME WEST! KOBE GETS SHAQ TRADED PHIL TO QUIT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PROVE HES AS GOOD AS JORDAN" SYAS FUCK THE TRIANGLE WANTS TO BE IVERSON GETS EVERYTHING HE WANTED SCORE 81 AGAINST toronto THE LOTTERY WINNER! LOL! CANT GET OUT THE 1ST RUND IN HIS PRIME? PRIME!!!!
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@AlphaMale505 Yeah, using caps the whole time just lowers your credibility and shows how much of a retard you are. Thanks for proving me right. :)
MW2Addiction 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction GOT ME THERE .. AND YOUR NAME CALLING PROVES YOUR A GENIUS?
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@MW2Addiction Because Kobe is a BALLHOG...you forgot to mention he only shot 45% that season too...jesus gett of Kobes nuts faggot
MyCockIsNotForYou 1 month ago
@MyCockIsNotForYou First of all I wasn't talking to you. Second of all wtf is your problem with me? I cant talk about Kobe cause that makes me automatically a Kobe dick rider? Are you fucking stupid kid? Who the fuck are you to begin with...?
MW2Addiction 1 month ago
@MW2Addiction see bitch your speechless...you know Im right
MyCockIsNotForYou 1 month ago
@MyCockIsNotForYou Speechless? Lol I posted something 2 days ago and you just responded to that 12 minutes ago. If anyone here is speechless it's you.
MW2Addiction 1 month ago
@MW2Addiction Cuz i havent checked my comments until now...and to respond to your other comment, if Lebron wins 2 Finals MVPs and keeps playing at an elite level for years, he will be greater than Kobe IMO...so its not like he will never be as great as kobe like u said
MyCockIsNotForYou 1 month ago
@bim2x4 i love u
MrProtuber 2 months ago
@bim2x4 : well im a die hard Bulls fan & don't care about either guy...in 07 when kobe wanted to join the Bulls i was hoping he wouldn't join & last year there was talk of lebron joining & i also didn't want him either...that said i would much rather pick lebron over kobe
imsljr420 2 months ago
@bim2x4 YOU AINT NO KOBE HATER WITH A SILLY STATEMENT LIKE THAT! get off line skip bayless!!
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@bim2x4 if the only thing stopping him is rings, than he still has time to prove you wrong because we all know thats the difference at this moment, he is statistically better in so many ways it's all about them championships, so is he really better?
SeanMDolan 1 month ago
@bim2x4
hahahaahaha no way youre a lebron fan!! ROFL fukin faker piss off.....really??? dumbest shit i just heard....cmon! how is he better? in what area? i mean,i still dont get why kobe n laker fans think kobe is better,but their his fans,you?? fake
TheRafaelBond 1 month ago
@TheRafaelBond how is kobe better? better shooter, better leader, better defender, better in the clutch, more finesse, unlike LeBron's bowling ball move. Kobe is the complete package, LeQuack is not.
RyZombie619 1 month ago
@bim2x4 nice to see some honesty here from level headed fans.
RyZombie619 1 month ago
@bim2x4 your a liar your a laker fan
S3thduckyquackmoo 2 weeks ago
(CONT'D) my point is all evry1 talks about his kobes rings, how clutch he is, and how he has done it on his own. you cant tell me gasol and kobe with either bynum or artest was never a big 3? ppl who say that are plain ignorant. who cares about rings?? one team wins it every year. sry that kobe has gotten to play w a stud dominant post evry yr! give lebron and the cavs gasol and they demolish the league in yrs past. and the cluch i proved below. kobe was not any more clutch than lebron is now!
McSpank21 3 months ago
@McSpank21 The POINT about Kobe being clutch isn't whether he hits every game winning shot. The point is he never shys away from it. He never gets nervous or worried what the media will say if he misses. He comes to play and WIN. The difference in the two is clear, Lebron wants to be known as a winner for the fame and money. Kobe wants to be the best every night for the sake of being the best!! Lebron played with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh name teammates better than that outside Shaq for Kobe...
joshuamj04 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 And as far as playing with a "dominant" post player. Gasol is far from dominant, he's soft as tissue. The man had a 8point 9reb game in the finals and played small in the 08 finals. Shaq was dominant but Kobe more than held his own winning those first 3 rings. Lebron STATISTICALLY had the best team 2 years running record wise and still didn't get to the finals,and the teams that put him out, lost to Kobe's Lakers... Just a few "fun facts" for you right there lol.
joshuamj04 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 okay go look at gasol stats b4 he came to la. now look at his stats each season with la. ur insane to say gasol was not dominant. idk if he has it now but he def was dominant. he has never averaged less than 18 pts a game w the lakers and posted 2 double double years. how does that pass ur brain?? and kobe got them the rings??!! shaq posted 30&15, 30&15,and 28&12 for the playoffs those years, during season he was virtually identical.Who won all 3 finals mvp awards? SHAQ
McSpank21 2 months ago
@McSpank21 You think 18pts is dominant?? 2 dbl dbl yrs of 4? He was never able to consistantly score as far as give the ball to him and let him win the game. Kobe only needed somebody who could catch the ball and finish around the basket CONSISTANTLY as a big, check the 08 season before Bynum went down to injury see how he did without Gasol. Bynum is hardly dominant he avg about 11pt 10reb. They could have won with Kwame Brown if he could catch and finish without fumbling the ball on passes.
joshuamj04 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (cont'd) kobe aint doin shit without a big man point blank. jus like lebron couldnt do it in cleveland without one. idc about who lebron lost to and kobe beat. lebron just wouldn't lose to kobe. just like he doesn't lose to kobe as it is. kobe always loses to lebron. all kobe has is the titles. and that will soon be wiped away
McSpank21 2 months ago
@McSpank21 Dominant would be 20+pts and 12-20rb and game yearly. Paul for a 7ftr is a bad rebounder and got pushed around by the Celtics in the 08' finals and came up with a 8pt game and a 10pt game in the Finals of 10' thats not dominant at all. As far as Lebron winning over Kobe. You got that one, BUT I doubt seriously he would have lost to Lebron in the finals!! Especially not those two years when the Cavs had the BEST record in the league! The Heat team could be a different story with Wade.
joshuamj04 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 okay so let me prove you wrong again,,,,ready?? pau was 11th in scoring of all big men(Power forward/Center) in 2010-2011.. He was 10th in 2009-2010. 9th in 2008-2009. and 9th in 2007-2008. you already know he was top 10 in rebounds all of those years besides 07-08. one of the years he was 5th in rebounds. point being the guy was one of the top 10 big men in the league(im giving some leway on this one cuz he was top 6 or 7 no doubt). yet your going to bust his ass and
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (continued) claim he wasn't dominant so that you can give all the credit to kobe? you sound stupid! only 1...maybe 2 guys evry year have 20+pts and 12+reb as their avg each year. yes he is not shaq....but he was at the top of all big men those years. still trying to say kobe didn't have help? dont forget lamar odom and bynum are big men(power forward/centers) too so you don't have an argument that kobe does it himself without big men. its always kobe and a big man.
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (continued) quit postin what you're postin without lookin up real facts such as stats to hold down your argument. your finger happy bro. and im sorry but kobe will never make another final so keep talkin about how he would beat lebron in the finals because lebron will be there again but kobe won't. lebron lost there last year...but he was there. where was kobe? and try 13, 14 , 15 and 11 in order of pts/game for bynum since 07-08. and 10, 8, 8, 9 for reb/game
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (continued) and what do you mean bad rebounder for a 7 footer? hell every post is damn near a 7 footer (6ft. 10 & up with a FEW....I said a FEW! under that) so being top 10 in rebounding every year doesn't sound like a bad rebounder. REBOUNDS ARE REBOUNDS!! LMAO. PLEASE STAY OFF ALL YOUTUBE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BASKETBALL.....BECAUSE YOUR LACK OF BASKETBALL KNOWLEDGE & BIASED OPINIONS ARE NOT WANTED HERE!!!!
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (continued) I can't stop....im finger happy now! shit must be contagious! but atleast i know some facts so you can take my word for it. I had to go and figure out where pau gasol ranked with his numbers because you didn't have a clue that for a post (again that would be a power forward or center) his numbers are/were legit.what made you think that 18+ pts/game wouldn't be up there for a post in the nba?But I'm sure kobe made his stats with all the assists kobe dishes out?
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 (continued) add the fact(amazing...FACTS) that lamar odom career average for pts and reb. a game are 14 and 9. and that his years w the lakers his majority of his seasons he was a rebound per game away from a double double is just more proof that kobe needs big men/posts/tall guys.Pau gasols other 2 non double double years were a reb/game away as well. ALSO, Pau was .2, .3, .4 points per game away of ranking up in 4th,5th,6th place spots in scoring for a post all those years with LA.
McSpank21 2 months ago
@joshuamj04 Take a look at this website.and its proof! it goes from 2003 to february of 2009! kobe was number 4 in game winning shots on the list. an he had the most missed gw shots of any player. guess who's number 1?? LEBRON. Now i know it only goes to 2009 but kobe has not surpassed lebron in this stat. Proof is in the pudding, and playoffs are included. if u want just playoffs only, kobe and lebron both were tied at 4 of 8.
McSpank21 2 months ago
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McSpank21 2 months ago
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@joshuamj04 here is that webpage.
82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
McSpank21 2 months ago
fun fact, kobe and carmello are number 1 and 2 in shot attempts per minutes played. This is a fact! google it, its from the 2010-2011 season. So we're talkin about the two ballhogs of the nba who get the most shots while on the court! do not try and compare stats of kobe to lebron!lebron steals evry stat category! lebron is better than kobe period. lebron has been clutch, quit saying he isn't! look at his gw shots through his career and compare to kobes first 7/8 years.
p.s. lbj will win a ring
McSpank21 3 months ago
Man I would pick Melo any day
payneicecold3000 3 months ago
to tell the truth the only arguement is that kobe is more clutch but the truth is carmeol anthony yes carmelo has hit more game winners than kobe so does that make carmelo better than kobe. the other arguement is rings to me rings is a team thing one player can not win a ring everybody talkin bout kobe like he can win one buy himself. i'd pick lebron anyday
MrBernard113 3 months ago
kobe is the greatest player of all time
FicoKING6 3 months ago
@FicoKING6
dont take it that far son.
Sensui01 3 months ago
@FicoKING6 I agree...
Kenuwine24 3 months ago
The real question is who do you want to be the best of this generation? LeBorn the man has an ego almost godly yet he there's nothing amazing about him. This is the man who leaves the city that made him, to go play with player who could finish his games for him. He can't handle the pressure, and he doesn't want it. The man has no personality, no pride. Who would want that as our generations NBA icon? How blind people are to true talent., this is story of my generation.
adrian199151 3 months ago
who cares Jordan would make them both look silly in his prime
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
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THATS WHERE ITS GOING DOWN!!!
TheShufflepulse 4 months ago
i really don't care for either guy ( i would if they played for my Bulls) but im more on the lebron side...i disagree with these "experts"..@ 1:10 -1:20 Zo is wrong, if you shut down the lane for lebron then he's going to find open teammates he doesn't need to force a shot....& i disagree with him @ 3:06, is he saying if you want to win a championship it's better to pick longley who has 3 over him who has 1 or pick kenny who has 2 over tim hardaway who has none?
imsljr420 4 months ago
Let's go down the list per game
More point... lebron
More rebs......lebron
More assist.....lebron
Better fg%.......lebron
Blocks.........lebron
Steals......kobe
Thousandeyes85 4 months ago
@Thousandeyes85 well dont stop there keep going like....
more championships... kobe
more 50+ games... kobe
more 60+ games... kobe
most 80+ games... kobe
most finals MVP... kobe
most clutch... kobe (thats a no brainer)
most turnovers... lebron
RoboVic1 4 months ago
#1 difference between kobe and lebron...Lebron probably watched this...kobe was probably in the gym...
bigfoot419 4 months ago 2
@bigfoot419 : you make your first sentence like it's a definite thing & they say "probably" like you're not sure.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 probably doesnt necessarily dictate uncertainty, but nice job using context clues to make an educated guess on what i meant...so when i say Lebron PROBABLY wont win a ring, im not at all unsure about that...im pretty darn certain lol
bigfoot419 4 months ago
LEBRON AINT GOT THE 80+
MrSean1022 4 months ago
kobe will NEVER BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME lebron will be the greatest ever
kingjames27100 4 months ago
@kingjames27100 Do you know why Jordan is considered the greatest player of all time? Besides all of his accolades, its his performances when it matters most that made him who he was. When it really came down to it, he did whatever it took to win... which is why when he got to the Finals he never lost (6-0), Kobe is a close 2nd (5-1) and Lebron is even farther behind being (0-2). Kobe and Lebron will never pass Jordan, period.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@kingjames27100 Lebron James The greatest traveler of all time
AdrianAquino22 3 months ago
kobe is not better lebron already has better stats than kobe so shut up haters
kingjames27100 4 months ago
@kingjames27100 didnt't you listen to Kenny Smith??
"There's 3 types of lies: regular lies, damn lies and STATS!!!!"
Don't get me wrong, LeBron is a great basketball player but he is not even close to Kobe's level!!
19Lio19 4 months ago
@19Lio19 : right now lebron is better than kobe...career wise kobe's still better but i think lebron has a chance to surpass him...kobe didn't accomplish much so it shouldn't be too hard for lebron.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Kobe didn't accomplish much??? you're funny :D
19Lio19 4 months ago
@19Lio19 : take away the 3 rings that shaq LED him to what does he have? 2 rings 2 finals MVP's & 1 league MVP....lebron already passed him in league MVP's & has a chance of LEADING the heat to the championship & getting finals MVP b4 that age....you could say wade is the leader of the team BUT if lebron puts up better performances in the finals than wade & gets finals MVP then it would be lebron leading them.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 oh please... you bringing up that "Shaq argument" shows me, that you just don't know anything about basketball... nobody wins championships on his own. Shaq and Kobe were a duo just like Kobe and Gasol or LeBron AND DWade! And League MVPs mean nothing. Kobe could have won more, but he is only concentrating on rings and not on individual awards like LeBron! LeBron needs to win AT LEAST 4 champonships before we can talk about him being better than Kobe! And i don't see that...
19Lio19 4 months ago
@19Lio19 : oh please....you posting this comment that "nobody wins championships on his own" shows that you lack comprehension skills....saying shaq LED him doesn't mean he won by himself it means that kobe wasn't even the best player when they 3peat he was a sidekick....league MVP's don't mean nothing cuz kobe couldn't win more than 1....& saying kobe concentrates on rings & lebron concentrates on individual awards shows that you don't know anything about basketball.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Shut up idiot wow
mizal215 4 months ago
@mizal215 : your comment shows that im right and you just can't handle the truth...other wise you would give a legit argument not some little 5 year old response.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Not worth it idiot period. ppl like u make sports look like school year ball .
mizal215 4 months ago
@imsljr420 You can make the argument about Kobe only winning 2 rings without Shaq, and his League MVP"s, but where you failed in your point was when you said LEbron has a chance of Leading the heat to a Championship or Championships. Lebron will NEVER win the Finals MVP as long as he is in Miami, if Wade and Bosh went to Cleveland, Lebron would be MVP. Its Dwayne's city, his team, and he is the only player with killer instinct on the Miami Heat team. Lebron will never get Finals MVP in Miami.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 Thankz for tellin this idiot that cause i think this dude is from another planet lebron is nothin but a queen James period.
mizal215 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 : if heat would've won & they gave lebron finals MVP i would be on here talking about how stupid the media is for kissing lebrons ass & that he didn't deserve it...but maybe next time they reach the finals lebron won't become lequit & disappear in the 4th
wasn't the 80's lakers, celtics & pistons magic,birds & thomas team? & who won finals MVP? worthy, maxwell & dumars...wasn't spurs duncans team? and who won finals MVP? parker.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Lets come to a more recent time and a more similar example to this current situation. Kg and Ray Allen come to Boston, they both outplay Paul Pierce in the NBA Finals, and throughout the play offs. Who wins Finals MVP? Paul Pierce, because Boston is Pierce's town. Parker was drafted by San Antonio, and didnt just switch teams to win. Same goes for Worthy,Dumar, and Maxwell. They won Championships the teams that drafted them. Lebron jumped ships to win. He wont be Finals MVP, ever..
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@imsljr420 And they didnt just win with the teams that drafted them, they outplayed stars like Thomas, Duncan,Magic and Bird, and because they were drafted by them, they had an equal right to the MVP. Miami is Wade's town, and Wade will win any and all FInals MVP awards that the Heat earn. If lebron wanted FInals MVP trophies he should have stayed in Cleveland.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 : so even if lebron puts up better numbers he won't get finals MVP?
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Nope. If Lebron put up better numbers in Cleveland with Wade and Bosh, then fuck yea. But no way he is winning Finals MVP over the man who almost single-handledly won Miami its first Championship in Franchise History.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 : im not calling you or your comment stupid but if that happens then that would be wrong & stupid.....if that did happened which i feel it won't & you're one of these people that looks for petty little things to down play lebron would you at least admit that lebron got robbed? i mean maybe you're right maybe KG got robbed of the 08 finals MVP
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 I dont understand your comment... when you say "If that did happen, which i feel it wont.." What are you referring to. To answer your other concern, i have nothing against Lebron. Lebron is one of the best/ the best player(s) in the league today, and will be one of the greatest in History. But you have to understand. If the Heat won a championship.. and Lebron got Finals MVP, Dwane Wade would get the one getting robbed, not Lebron. Dwayne = Miami, Lebron = Cleveland.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 Now i understand what you meant, and no its not wrong or stupid, it makese sense. You're one of those people that ride Lebron a little bit too much. My Favorite player in the league is Ray Allen, and from the moment he went to the FInals, and went to Boston period... i knew he wasnt going to win Finals MVP ever in Boston. Its all about legacies man. Dwayne's Legacy is Miami, he brought that team its first Championship, and has been the teams Trademark since he was drafted.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 : u might be right...maybe that's why kobe won finals MVP instead of pau....but i think the guy that plays the best in the finals should be the MVP...btw saying lebron didn't deserve mvp if they won means i ride him?
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Maybe i was wrong in my assumption, but the way you were talking earlier led me to believe so. And probably the way i was talking led you to believe that i was a Lebron hater. But back on subject, yes i agree with you somewhat. MVP's should be based on who plays the best. But MVP's are similar to popularity contest. Howard should have been league MVP, but people were riding D-Rose so he won it. In Miami, where Dwayne is king, i cant see Lebron getting FInals MVP there.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 : well maybe this comment will make me seem like a "lebron dick rider" trust me im not, but i actually felt like lebron was the MVP 4 the fact that when he sat the opposing team would be right there in the game as soon as lebron would check back in the heat would pull away so his presence made a difference.
let me ask u this: if heat win the title & it's crystal clear that lbj was their best player would u admit that? would u say "even though wade got MVP lbj played better."
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 Oh, of course i would admit it. That still wouldnt change the fact that Dwayne Wade will be the finals MVP> Lebron played better against Boston, and Chicago, and he was clearly the best player on his team during that time. But he will not win the finals MVP> he just wont. KG and Ray Ray played better, Pierce got mvp. Ron artest made the biggest difference for the Lakers 2010, Kobe still won. Its Wade's city, and its Wades MVP trophy, no matter what.
UdouAkira1028 4 months ago
@UdouAkira1028 they never beat the c's with perkins it took three of them with rondo being hurt to beat them
kandrewallen 3 months ago
@imsljr420 Kobe without Shaq = 2 rings, 2 finals MVP....
Shaq without Kobe = 1 ring, 0 finals MVP.... ur statement is irrelevant... Kobe was the sidekick of the 3peat team from 00' to 02'.... but without him shaq wouldnt have won anything. Period.
AdrianAquino22 3 months ago
@AdrianAquino22 : well at least you admit he was a sidekick.
imsljr420 3 months ago
Kobe is a good defender? Last i checked everytime he plays paul pierce, he gets killed, plays lebron gets abused, plays Mcgrady in his prime absolutely destroyed, I'm a Bucks fan, and John Salmons, michael Redd all go off on him, he is shit at defense.
20yrsofgreatness 4 months ago
@20yrsofgreatness Your overexaderating idoit. Kobe would stop them all in his prime . Quit hating asshole
NightXFlash 4 months ago
@NightXFlash Not true, when Mcgrady was in his prime, as well as Kobe, Mcgrady always owned him.
20yrsofgreatness 4 months ago
@20yrsofgreatness Prove it then..
NightXFlash 4 months ago
@20yrsofgreatness lol is that why hes a 11 time all-NBA defensive player fucking idiot
RoboVic1 4 months ago
@RoboVic1 Lol, you know thats a fucking popularity contest dont you? Kevin Durant said Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was the best defender in the league, and he didn't even come close to All-NBA, seriously Kobe cant guard shit watch a game.
20yrsofgreatness 4 months ago
@20yrsofgreatness look at any videos about kobes defense they will all say hes very good and wen da fuck does he get killed by paul pierce or lebron? did you even see the 2010 finals? YOU need to watch a game
RoboVic1 4 months ago
@RoboVic1 Celtics got robbed of a title, Pierce owned the shit out of him overall. Pierce shot 44 percent in the series, with Artest (an actually good defender) on him switching from kobe to artest. Kobe shot 40 percent, with defense from Ray Allen and Pierce. Kobe not only cant defend, he can't outplay Pierce in the biggest stage. Again, All nba defense are popularity contests.
20yrsofgreatness 4 months ago
3 former players, one guy a 2 time champion all said Kobe Bryant is better, not only better, but the best in the league....case closed, it's never been a debate to begin with
scorpionJB 4 months ago
Kobe had 61 and 3 assts in the Garden. LBJ had 50+ 11 boards and 9 assts.
Kobe had the better game, if you don't believe me ask yourself this question. MJ had 55 and 2 assists in the Garden, who had the better performance. LBJ or MJ ?
quakertown 5 months ago
Compare Lebrons Rookie year to Kobes Rookie year LMAO Kobe was getting passed up by people like Stephan Marbury lmfao Not to mention Iverson a rookie with 50 point games
JCam4mvp 5 months ago
....61 pts that was only in 3 qtrs,,,,,
noformstyle 5 months ago
Kobe has champion experience? or phil jackson?Lebron is better than kobe. kobe has a team to support him.Lebron NOW has a team.
eesainteman 5 months ago
@eesainteman
Kobe does have championship experience, it wasn't Phil going against the Celtics. Michael Jordan has championship experience or phil jackson? See how your argument is irrelevant now? ALL CHAMPS HAD A TEAM TO SUPPORT THEM YOU IDIOT. LeBron has a team, and HE STILL can't win. He had a team in Cleveland, they had the best record TWO YEARS IN A ROW. Show how much LeBron can lead a team.
quakertown 5 months ago
@eesainteman I AGREE 100% THANK YOU!!!!!!
MrPackatrick 5 months ago
its crazy to actually see that hardwork is over physical gifts in this situation
thug8200 5 months ago
that like comparing jordan to drexler after the 92 finals really kobe is better then lebron easy
thug8200 5 months ago
@YeahbuddyMiles kobes 1st 7 years 3 rings lebrons 1st 7 years ZERO
JIX9ISLER1986 6 months ago
@YeahbuddyMiles
After 10yrs. Compare LeBron's Last 10yrs vs Kobe's last 10yrs = Kobe rapes LeBron on that discussion.
Zo Mourning says it all. =)
maHTENNEK 6 months ago
alonzo mourning said kobe cause he got dunked on by bron
lilshady230 6 months ago
Haha no brainer Kobe is better
Imakeufml 6 months ago
All you people who are saying lebrons better are dumb ever video I've seen agrees Kobe is the better player
MRDJROCK1 6 months ago
@MRDJROCK1 LBJ is better and your grammer is atrocious!
cubsfan01991 6 months ago
@cubsfan01991 no MY dick's bigger!
DrHouseMD 6 months ago
@DrHouseMD wtf are you talking about? I didn't say anything about penis size loll
cubsfan01991 6 months ago
kobe is a volume shooter. he shot jacks to get 30. he cant rebound like lebron, cant pass like lebron. lakers had to put a 90million dollar team around kobe just to win after shaq left. kobe screams like a bitch for fake fouls. kobe is 7-25 in clutch shots, lebron is 5-12. lol dirk is 5-13, tim duncan is 4-13. all these guys are better in the clutch than kobe. media is selling bullshit and the people are eating it like how a mexican eats a bowl of beans. lol 17-47,6-27,9-26, 6-24 in finals
BMWM5gpower23 6 months ago
@BMWM5gpower23 lebron 8 points in a game in the finals, disappeared in the 4th of the last 4 games of that series..... kobe bad shooting night in game 7 of 2010 finals, 5 for 26 I think but... not the bigger player, not a great rebounder... but still got15 BIG rebounds and score 10 points in the 4th... and that my friend is the difference.
Lebron = Great player
Kobe = Greatness
AdrianAquino22 3 months ago
@AdrianAquino22 you have to google "kobe is not clutch" and u well see how truly bad this guy is. kobe is 27 placed in the clutch but yet dumb fans say is the best closer? LMAO. Jackson also tells of marching, more than once, into Mitch Kupchak's office to demand that the Lakers trade Bryant. He writes things like:"Kobe tends to hold on to the ball longer than necessary causing the offense to stagnate.""He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid." etc. stats dont lie. OVERRATED
BMWM5gpower23 3 months ago
wtf...!! dwyane wade all day, everyday.
tongan93Pride 6 months ago
lebron traveled
rizwhib 7 months ago
alonzo mourning in his prime was such a beast
bighousebich 7 months ago
Kobe is better. If you compare a prime Kobe against a prime LBJ its really not all that close. Kobe is 2nd only to Jordan only because Jordan was more consistent from day 1 to the end of his career. Think about it, 81 points was sick. The scary part is if Kobe played 4th quarter against Dallas he would have had at least 2 70+ games and possibly 2 80+ or even a 90 point game.
lifan231 8 months ago 2
@lifan231 wat u said at the end was a lie hands down
vonzswaylo100 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Kobe has more skills.
snipersteel5200 8 months ago
kobe hands down
mississippiking100 8 months ago
@ryguy2 WTF?! LEBRON IS A CHOKE ARTIST! lebron is 0 for 2 man. He can't close shut out like Kobe can. If he can then he would have multiple. And dude. You're stupid. HALF THE PEOPLE I KNOW CHOSE THE HEAT. If lebron reaches Kobes age, he won't have his athleticism anymore which mean he has to be a jumpshooter which he can't be cuz his shooting fuckin sucks.
jrmixtapes 8 months ago
It sounded like he said fuck.
jrmixtapes 8 months ago
im fucking calling that number
TrexJerk8 8 months ago
@gerrad86 3 things: One, he scored more points because he shot more. Dirk shot something like 42% for the series, LeBron shot 48%. Two, nobody picked Miami to win the East during the season, yet they were in the finals. Three, the reason they were in the finals was because of LeBron James. Period.
ryguy2 8 months ago
@ryguy2 i understand what you trying to say and yes lebron was the reason they got to the finals but he is also the reason they lost
msdanabryant 8 months ago
lol @ This even being a discussion. Kobe Bryant just got swept out of the playoffs by the DALLAS MAVERICKS with a more talented team than LeBron has ever had.
ryguy2 9 months ago
Kobe isn't clutch??? You people are dumb!!
614cj 9 months ago
@614cj : no he's not...36 of 116 is not clutch..that's 80 missed shots
imsljr420 9 months ago
The points being made in this video are being refuted by Lebron every game. First, when they say Kobe is a better outside shooter: that's undoubtedly true. But Kobe is a shooting guard. Using their logic, I'll say Stephen Curry is better than a prime Shaq, since Curry is the better outside shooter.
Second, Kobe can impact the game on offense and defense. So can Lebron. They didn't talk about what Lebron can do defensively.
Third, Kobe can create his own shot. He can also miss a good percentage
ericsosna 9 months ago
how old is this video? lebron is by far the better player. kobe isnt clutch! he has 5 rings because of his teamates! he is a selfish and inefficient scorer! kobe is the most overrated/overhyped player in the leagues history! he's still a top 15 player all time but cmon guys dont be brainwashed by the god damn media!
mufcrulz 10 months ago
@mufcrulz i dont get how you can say kobes not clutch when he had like 6 game winners last season...
SparkABlunt420 9 months ago
@SparkABlunt420 you think he had 6 game winners last season? lol! kobe misses far more game winning shots than he makes but that's something people either forget or just don't want to hear because they are so desperate for kobe to be the next MJ. one look at the numbers contradicts everything the dumbass sports media has been shoving down our throats for years now but the kobe nut-riders are too busy bashing lebron to realise he's hugely overrated. ignorance is bliss i guess
mufcrulz 9 months ago
@mufcrulz lol and how bout lebron. Miamis 1-14 in game winning shots this season. Fucking lebrons not clutch at all.
SparkABlunt420 9 months ago
@SparkABlunt420 have you been watching the playoffs???? lebron is a better closer than kobe and yes he's made a higher percentage of clutch shots but your too stupid and too far up kobes ass to see this.
mufcrulz 9 months ago
@mufcrulz ur honestly saying lebrons more clutch than kobe? why is he known as the best closer in the game?
SparkABlunt420 9 months ago
@SparkABlunt420 : media hype that's why....& mufcrulz is right....percentage wise lebron is better in the clutch than kobe.
imsljr420 9 months ago
@SparkABlunt420 DON'T LISTEN TO THE GOD DMAN SPORTS MEDIA! just because they say something, it doesnt make it true! espn has been saying kobe is "basketballs greatest closer" and "the cold blooded killer" for years now with absolutely no evidence to back it up! kobes made clutch shots have been memorable and pleasing to the eye so we(including the retarded espn)tend to remember them more than lebrons but people forget the huge amounts he missed. i can link u 2 articles that show this if u want
mufcrulz 9 months ago
@SparkABlunt420 have u seen lebron in playoffs?? they and LBJ has been hitting big shots and seems to be a ring soon coming for lebron
tateavery21 9 months ago
@tateavery21 Haha riight. Ive seen lebron in the play offs and the last two games he had 0 and 2 points in the 4th quarter. Nice
SparkABlunt420 8 months ago
@mufcrulz agreed but i will say what mj said. Kobe is a top ten gaurd not player.
tateavery21 9 months ago